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Hamagid lists in the ALD #lithuania

Rabjamarx@...
 

While our esteemed MODERATOR is correct in reminding us (in the 2/20/00
message on Olita) that there are listings >from HaMagid in the All Lithuanian
Database, her conclusion: "so a town-based search would yield them," is not
necessarily so.

Remember, that Jeffrey Maynard's excellent list of HaMagid donor names, only
covers 1871-1872 for Lithuanian towns. Thus, other years or locations will
not appear when doing an ALD search.

Clearly, the place to start is with the ALD but if a HaMagid listing for a
town name does not appear, a general call for help >from those of us who may
have found the town in the course of our own searches in HaMagid could yield
results.

Jeff Marx


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Hamagid lists in the ALD #lithuania

Rabjamarx@...
 

While our esteemed MODERATOR is correct in reminding us (in the 2/20/00
message on Olita) that there are listings >from HaMagid in the All Lithuanian
Database, her conclusion: "so a town-based search would yield them," is not
necessarily so.

Remember, that Jeffrey Maynard's excellent list of HaMagid donor names, only
covers 1871-1872 for Lithuanian towns. Thus, other years or locations will
not appear when doing an ALD search.

Clearly, the place to start is with the ALD but if a HaMagid listing for a
town name does not appear, a general call for help >from those of us who may
have found the town in the course of our own searches in HaMagid could yield
results.

Jeff Marx


Kelme, Suwalki, and movement in the Jewish community #lithuania

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

Our picture of our 19th century ancestors is of a people who
were born, lived and died in the same small shtetl. While some
certainly fit that picture, they were much more diverse.

Historians tell us that there was much migration within
the Russian Empire even before the great emigration that began
in the 1880s. Generally, the migration was economically (and
sometimes governmentally) motivated, and tended to be >from rural
to town to city, and >from north to south, especially as the south
(comparatively) boomed in the last half of the century.

The size of families were so large that it was unlikely that
all the offspring could earn a living >from the family business. If the
business involved a skill, one might be better advised to establish
it elsewhere rather than to compete with one's father or siblings.

In addition, anyone with rabbinic or scholarly ambitions had
to travel, as the custom was to study with great rabbis or attend
one of the few extant Yeshivas, or both.

Finally, there was the marriage custom of the parents of both
the groom and the bride giving the young couple gifts of roughly
equal value, which often included lodging them for a period of time
in the bride's then the groom's family home. For a couple with
homes in different towns, this meant that it was not automatic that
the couple would settle in the bride's town, the groom's town, or
strike out for a third (neutral) locale.

Bert Lazerow

lazer@acusd.edu


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kelme, Suwalki, and movement in the Jewish community #lithuania

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

Our picture of our 19th century ancestors is of a people who
were born, lived and died in the same small shtetl. While some
certainly fit that picture, they were much more diverse.

Historians tell us that there was much migration within
the Russian Empire even before the great emigration that began
in the 1880s. Generally, the migration was economically (and
sometimes governmentally) motivated, and tended to be >from rural
to town to city, and >from north to south, especially as the south
(comparatively) boomed in the last half of the century.

The size of families were so large that it was unlikely that
all the offspring could earn a living >from the family business. If the
business involved a skill, one might be better advised to establish
it elsewhere rather than to compete with one's father or siblings.

In addition, anyone with rabbinic or scholarly ambitions had
to travel, as the custom was to study with great rabbis or attend
one of the few extant Yeshivas, or both.

Finally, there was the marriage custom of the parents of both
the groom and the bride giving the young couple gifts of roughly
equal value, which often included lodging them for a period of time
in the bride's then the groom's family home. For a couple with
homes in different towns, this meant that it was not automatic that
the couple would settle in the bride's town, the groom's town, or
strike out for a third (neutral) locale.

Bert Lazerow

lazer@acusd.edu


Re Nonna #general

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

Nonna or Nonni is Italian for Grandma; it what my own children and every
Italian I have ever known call their grandmother.

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Nonna #general

Vicky Ferraresi <vickyfer@...>
 

Nonna or Nonni is Italian for Grandma; it what my own children and every
Italian I have ever known call their grandmother.

Vicky Furstenberg Ferraresi
Belmont, CA


Derazhnya Ukraine #general

MK <m.katz@...>
 

I just received a copy of my grandmother's petition for naturalization
which lists her birth and marriage in "Derishne Russia" (typed in by
someone who didn't spell her witnesses' names correctly). Since my father
and grandfather were born in Litin (about 50 km WNW of Vinnitsa) I'm
guessing the town is (as listed in WOWW) Derazhnya (75 km W of Vinnitza).
Anyone have any experience researching in that area?

Min Kataczinsky
formerly Detroit, now Wilmington DE USA
http://sites.netscape.net/mink8/homepage

researching BAKER (Detroit MI USA), BORAKINSKI (Vilna Lithuania);
ERELOVICH; FRUMIN (Braslav and Glebokie, Belarus),
KATACZINSKY (Vilna Lithuania); KATZ (Litin Podolie Ukraine);
KUKULIN (Vitebsk Belarussia); LERNER (Derazhnya Ukraine);
RABINOVITZ (Khodorkov Ukraine); SHEININ (Belarus);
SINGER (Korostyshev Ukraine); TAKSA/TAXEY (Khodorkov Ukraine)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Derazhnya Ukraine #general

MK <m.katz@...>
 

I just received a copy of my grandmother's petition for naturalization
which lists her birth and marriage in "Derishne Russia" (typed in by
someone who didn't spell her witnesses' names correctly). Since my father
and grandfather were born in Litin (about 50 km WNW of Vinnitsa) I'm
guessing the town is (as listed in WOWW) Derazhnya (75 km W of Vinnitza).
Anyone have any experience researching in that area?

Min Kataczinsky
formerly Detroit, now Wilmington DE USA
http://sites.netscape.net/mink8/homepage

researching BAKER (Detroit MI USA), BORAKINSKI (Vilna Lithuania);
ERELOVICH; FRUMIN (Braslav and Glebokie, Belarus),
KATACZINSKY (Vilna Lithuania); KATZ (Litin Podolie Ukraine);
KUKULIN (Vitebsk Belarussia); LERNER (Derazhnya Ukraine);
RABINOVITZ (Khodorkov Ukraine); SHEININ (Belarus);
SINGER (Korostyshev Ukraine); TAKSA/TAXEY (Khodorkov Ukraine)


GLUCK, GLICK #general

hschwart@...
 

Hi all,

I am doing research on the GLICK family. My grandfather's grandfather was
Manachem Mendel Glick Rebbie of Kemesce. He was the son of Gedalha Glick
from Bokony.
Does anyone have any information on that family or town?

Thank You

Henry Schwartz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GLUCK, GLICK #general

hschwart@...
 

Hi all,

I am doing research on the GLICK family. My grandfather's grandfather was
Manachem Mendel Glick Rebbie of Kemesce. He was the son of Gedalha Glick
from Bokony.
Does anyone have any information on that family or town?

Thank You

Henry Schwartz


Searching YOSPE, PACKER, ROSENTHAL, HAUTZIG #general

MojoRisinNY <mojorisinny@...>
 

I recently became interested in my family's genealogy and was wondering
if anyone could help me find information about my ancestors. My name is
Sam Yospe. My mother is Marilyn YOSPE (Edison, New Jersey), my maternal
grandparent were Janet and Harold PACKER, my great-grandparents were
Fannie and Charles Packer and Sara and Herbert ROSENTHAL. My great grand
parents were Sigmund and Clara HAUTZIG and Wolf and ??? Packer. I do not
know much about them, other than that Wolf and his wife were >from Austria
in the 1800's. The rest of them all lived in the New Jersey area. I am
not sure about my great-grandparents, but the surname for the parents of
the Hautzig is GREENBERG.
My dad is Joseph Yospe (Edison, NJ). His parents are Mary and Murray Yospe
(Wayne, NJ). My great grandparents are Mildred and Charles ENGEL and
Samuel and Sarah Yospe. I know little about them and don't know about my
great-great grandparents.
I have been tracing my family members using ancestry.com. I have found
some information and am looking for anything that I can find-- of course
names, as well as birthdates, deathdates, occupations, etc. Any help in
finding direct ancestors, cousins, aunts, and uncles would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you.

Sam Yospe (MojoRisinNY@aol.com)

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a wealth of information to help you further
your research. You can get a list of all the resources available by
accessing our homepage at : http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find :
JewishGen FamilyFinder (JGFF). Enter the surname you are researching
in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF). It is one of our most heavily
visited sites. Other people searching the same names will be able to
see it in future searches.

Under the heading LEARN you will find :
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and InfoFiles. A great resource for
those just starting their genealogy, and even for the "veterans" (Grin)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching YOSPE, PACKER, ROSENTHAL, HAUTZIG #general

MojoRisinNY <mojorisinny@...>
 

I recently became interested in my family's genealogy and was wondering
if anyone could help me find information about my ancestors. My name is
Sam Yospe. My mother is Marilyn YOSPE (Edison, New Jersey), my maternal
grandparent were Janet and Harold PACKER, my great-grandparents were
Fannie and Charles Packer and Sara and Herbert ROSENTHAL. My great grand
parents were Sigmund and Clara HAUTZIG and Wolf and ??? Packer. I do not
know much about them, other than that Wolf and his wife were >from Austria
in the 1800's. The rest of them all lived in the New Jersey area. I am
not sure about my great-grandparents, but the surname for the parents of
the Hautzig is GREENBERG.
My dad is Joseph Yospe (Edison, NJ). His parents are Mary and Murray Yospe
(Wayne, NJ). My great grandparents are Mildred and Charles ENGEL and
Samuel and Sarah Yospe. I know little about them and don't know about my
great-great grandparents.
I have been tracing my family members using ancestry.com. I have found
some information and am looking for anything that I can find-- of course
names, as well as birthdates, deathdates, occupations, etc. Any help in
finding direct ancestors, cousins, aunts, and uncles would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you.

Sam Yospe (MojoRisinNY@aol.com)

MODERATOR NOTE: There is a wealth of information to help you further
your research. You can get a list of all the resources available by
accessing our homepage at : http://www.jewishgen.org

Under the heading RESEARCH you will find :
JewishGen FamilyFinder (JGFF). Enter the surname you are researching
in the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF). It is one of our most heavily
visited sites. Other people searching the same names will be able to
see it in future searches.

Under the heading LEARN you will find :
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) and InfoFiles. A great resource for
those just starting their genealogy, and even for the "veterans" (Grin)


Sarospatak #general

hschwart@...
 

Hi all,
I am currently doing research on my family that came >from Sarospatak. My
Great Great Grandfather was Dov Arey (Berl Leib) SCHWARTZ, Can anyone
help me find out more informaiton about him and his family?

Thank You
Henry Schwartz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sarospatak #general

hschwart@...
 

Hi all,
I am currently doing research on my family that came >from Sarospatak. My
Great Great Grandfather was Dov Arey (Berl Leib) SCHWARTZ, Can anyone
help me find out more informaiton about him and his family?

Thank You
Henry Schwartz


Do you own Broederbund Family Archive CD #110 #general

Eddy Fraifeld <efraifeld@...>
 

If you own Family Archive #110 >from Broderbund could you please contact
me by private mail.
Any help greatly appreciated
Sincerely

Eddy Fraifeld
Danville, Virginia
efraifeld@mindspring.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do you own Broederbund Family Archive CD #110 #general

Eddy Fraifeld <efraifeld@...>
 

If you own Family Archive #110 >from Broderbund could you please contact
me by private mail.
Any help greatly appreciated
Sincerely

Eddy Fraifeld
Danville, Virginia
efraifeld@mindspring.com


Austrain Ukraine #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hi list. Do you think someone who came >from the Austrain Ukraine around
1904 would tell the census taker they were >from Austria? All opinions on
this one gladly received!!! Thanks.
Meryl Persky
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr.
SALZMAN, Ukr.
KETCHMAN, Ukr.
HIRSCH, Grebow, Pol.
LEDER, Austria
TEPPER, Galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Austrain Ukraine #general

Foodphile@...
 

Hi list. Do you think someone who came >from the Austrain Ukraine around
1904 would tell the census taker they were >from Austria? All opinions on
this one gladly received!!! Thanks.
Meryl Persky
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr.
SALZMAN, Ukr.
KETCHMAN, Ukr.
HIRSCH, Grebow, Pol.
LEDER, Austria
TEPPER, Galicia


Re: Uzhgorod (formerly Ungvar) #hungary

Norman Fuhrer <nfuhrer@...>
 

Received some small bits of information with regard to Uncle's living in
Uzhgorod >from the late 1880's until the holocaust.

One, David FUHRER, had smicha and was a schochet. In his later days he did
not practice as a Rabbi, continued as a schochet, and also sold winter
clothing at swap meets. He did this until the Hungarians came in and took
away the business licenses >from the Jewish people.

Another Uncle, Herske and Avram FUHRER had a shoe store located on Kashut
Teair. When the Hungarians took over, what at that time was Czechoslovakia,
they renamed the street -- Masark Teair. Wonder if the street still remains
in Uzhgorod and what the shoe store has become?

Moshe FUHRER owned a deli on wheels, including popcorn, nuts and fruit. We
believe he conducted this business in Tiatcewo (now possibly Tyachev.

Tyborovitz Vieder (Wieder) was a Cantor at the Synagogue in Uzhgorod. He
was a brother-in-law to David FUHRER.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this new-found information.

Norman Fuhrer - nfuhrer@iu.net
Titusville, FL

Researching Surnames:
BERKOWITZ (BERKOVITS) - Berehove
FELDMAN - Uzhgorod
FUHRER - Uzhgorod - Mukacevo, Nyiersfalva, Slovakia, Israel,
GOLDBLATT - Uzhgorod - Galicia? Poland ?
MOSKOWITZ - Uzhgorod - Berehove, Israel,
Cleveland, Ohio
ROSENBERG - Uzhgorod - Israel, Maryland
STOLL -- anywhere
TARLOV -- anywhere
WEDNER -- Galicia, France, Belgium
WIEDER -- Uzhgorod - Hungary -- Czecholovakia
WIENER -- Hungary - Czechoslovakia -- Brooklyn
Belgium
UNK -- this was listed as a last name for Ignatz Fuhrer's first wife,
Sylvia, but we are not sure if this is a surname or means unknown.



Moshe FUHRER


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Uzhgorod (formerly Ungvar) #hungary

Norman Fuhrer <nfuhrer@...>
 

Received some small bits of information with regard to Uncle's living in
Uzhgorod >from the late 1880's until the holocaust.

One, David FUHRER, had smicha and was a schochet. In his later days he did
not practice as a Rabbi, continued as a schochet, and also sold winter
clothing at swap meets. He did this until the Hungarians came in and took
away the business licenses >from the Jewish people.

Another Uncle, Herske and Avram FUHRER had a shoe store located on Kashut
Teair. When the Hungarians took over, what at that time was Czechoslovakia,
they renamed the street -- Masark Teair. Wonder if the street still remains
in Uzhgorod and what the shoe store has become?

Moshe FUHRER owned a deli on wheels, including popcorn, nuts and fruit. We
believe he conducted this business in Tiatcewo (now possibly Tyachev.

Tyborovitz Vieder (Wieder) was a Cantor at the Synagogue in Uzhgorod. He
was a brother-in-law to David FUHRER.

Would appreciate any thoughts on this new-found information.

Norman Fuhrer - nfuhrer@iu.net
Titusville, FL

Researching Surnames:
BERKOWITZ (BERKOVITS) - Berehove
FELDMAN - Uzhgorod
FUHRER - Uzhgorod - Mukacevo, Nyiersfalva, Slovakia, Israel,
GOLDBLATT - Uzhgorod - Galicia? Poland ?
MOSKOWITZ - Uzhgorod - Berehove, Israel,
Cleveland, Ohio
ROSENBERG - Uzhgorod - Israel, Maryland
STOLL -- anywhere
TARLOV -- anywhere
WEDNER -- Galicia, France, Belgium
WIEDER -- Uzhgorod - Hungary -- Czecholovakia
WIENER -- Hungary - Czechoslovakia -- Brooklyn
Belgium
UNK -- this was listed as a last name for Ignatz Fuhrer's first wife,
Sylvia, but we are not sure if this is a surname or means unknown.



Moshe FUHRER