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Bukowina Shtetl name changes #ukraine

Bernie Levy <bernie-levy@...>
 

I've been trying to research my Bukowina roots for years (although haven't gone so
far as to travel to the old country or get deeply in Ukrainian records research).

The original spellings of my probable/possible ancestral towns, as told to me by
a cousin, were Berhometh and Mihowa. A few years ago, I thought that Jewishgen
Family Finder and Shtetl-Seeker had them as Beregomet and Migovo and that's what
I adopted in my mind and research. Now I find that JGFF and S-S have their
primary names as Berehomet and Myhove. What's going on?

Bernie Levy
Stamford, CT, USA

Researching
LEVY, POSMONTIER (POSMENTYRER, etc.) >from Biezun (or Bedzin), Poland
KAUDERER, BURG, THAU, ALTMAN >from Berehomet, Myhove,
also possibly Russ Banilov, Zalusce, Sniatyn, Otynya, Dzhuriv (Ukraine)
DREBIN/DREBEN >from Taurage & Kretinga, Lith. and Poltava, Ukraine.
ACKERMAN >from Kretinga, Lithuania

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Bukowina Shtetl name changes #ukraine

Bernie Levy <bernie-levy@...>
 

I've been trying to research my Bukowina roots for years (although haven't gone so
far as to travel to the old country or get deeply in Ukrainian records research).

The original spellings of my probable/possible ancestral towns, as told to me by
a cousin, were Berhometh and Mihowa. A few years ago, I thought that Jewishgen
Family Finder and Shtetl-Seeker had them as Beregomet and Migovo and that's what
I adopted in my mind and research. Now I find that JGFF and S-S have their
primary names as Berehomet and Myhove. What's going on?

Bernie Levy
Stamford, CT, USA

Researching
LEVY, POSMONTIER (POSMENTYRER, etc.) >from Biezun (or Bedzin), Poland
KAUDERER, BURG, THAU, ALTMAN >from Berehomet, Myhove,
also possibly Russ Banilov, Zalusce, Sniatyn, Otynya, Dzhuriv (Ukraine)
DREBIN/DREBEN >from Taurage & Kretinga, Lith. and Poltava, Ukraine.
ACKERMAN >from Kretinga, Lithuania

Wounded Jewish Soldiers in the German Army in WWI #gdansk #germany #poland #danzig

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

Hi fellow researchers,

My Grandmother's brother, Tzally BECKER, served in the German army during WW1.
He was wounded but did not die during the war.
He did die around 1920 as a result of a bullet that wandered in his
body >from the war. He probably died in the vicinity of Berlin.
I have no other information on him other than mentioned here:
He was born about 1897 in Tuchola (Tuchel) to Gustav and Rachel-Rosa BECKER.
He was married (probably to to Selma CZARLINSKI-ZYDOWER (born 1898 in
Danzig)) and lived in Berlin environs after returning >from the war.

I don't have a "German" name for him. I know that Tzally is a nickname
for "Bezalel" or "Shaul".
I haven't found any additional "factual" information.
Any ideas how and where to look for additional information ?
Any remarks as to "German" names that went with "Tzally" ?

Any clues will be welcomed.

Tamar Amit
Givatayim, ISRAEL

Researching:
BECKER - Tuchola and Gdansk, Prussia;
BRONFENBRENER, GEWIRCMAN, ROJZBOIM, ROZENBERG, WAGNER - Lublin area, Poland
APT, GOTTLIEB - Hesse, Germany

Danzig/Gedansk SIG #Danzig #Gdansk #Germany #Poland Wounded Jewish Soldiers in the German Army in WWI #danzig #gdansk #germany #poland

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

Hi fellow researchers,

My Grandmother's brother, Tzally BECKER, served in the German army during WW1.
He was wounded but did not die during the war.
He did die around 1920 as a result of a bullet that wandered in his
body >from the war. He probably died in the vicinity of Berlin.
I have no other information on him other than mentioned here:
He was born about 1897 in Tuchola (Tuchel) to Gustav and Rachel-Rosa BECKER.
He was married (probably to to Selma CZARLINSKI-ZYDOWER (born 1898 in
Danzig)) and lived in Berlin environs after returning >from the war.

I don't have a "German" name for him. I know that Tzally is a nickname
for "Bezalel" or "Shaul".
I haven't found any additional "factual" information.
Any ideas how and where to look for additional information ?
Any remarks as to "German" names that went with "Tzally" ?

Any clues will be welcomed.

Tamar Amit
Givatayim, ISRAEL

Researching:
BECKER - Tuchola and Gdansk, Prussia;
BRONFENBRENER, GEWIRCMAN, ROJZBOIM, ROZENBERG, WAGNER - Lublin area, Poland
APT, GOTTLIEB - Hesse, Germany

Re: Levy/Levi/Caro #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Janette Levey wrote <I posted recently about searching for my roots
on my father's side of the family. I was able to find a lot in the
British censuses. My great grandparents were born in England. On my
grgrandmother's line it looks like I may be able to trace back to my
grtgrtgrtgrtgrandmother in England in the 1780's.>

David Nathan replied: <Janette, You will find that British censuses
(censusi?) only started in 1841 so you may have difficulty getting
much information without a lot of deep digging. BMD records were only
centralised - at the Family Records Centre - >from 1837. Before that
you will have to depend on records by many church parishes. If your
family is of Sephardi origin, the records of the Spanish and
Portuguese Synagogue, otherwise known as Bevis Marks, in London, go
back to the late 1600s or early 1700s.>

All David wrote was quite correct but he may not have read my
analysis last week based on the 1851 census. We had Lydia BARNETT
[living with the NATHAN family as mother-in-law] born in London in 1781.

You often find in the censuses that widowed parents or older
unmarried sisters etc etc live with the family. Thus if you find such
a "lucky link" in the 1841 census you can go far back into the 1700s!
Remember, most people did not discard their old folk in those days.

Celia Male [U.K.]

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Levy/Levi/Caro #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Janette Levey wrote <I posted recently about searching for my roots
on my father's side of the family. I was able to find a lot in the
British censuses. My great grandparents were born in England. On my
grgrandmother's line it looks like I may be able to trace back to my
grtgrtgrtgrtgrandmother in England in the 1780's.>

David Nathan replied: <Janette, You will find that British censuses
(censusi?) only started in 1841 so you may have difficulty getting
much information without a lot of deep digging. BMD records were only
centralised - at the Family Records Centre - >from 1837. Before that
you will have to depend on records by many church parishes. If your
family is of Sephardi origin, the records of the Spanish and
Portuguese Synagogue, otherwise known as Bevis Marks, in London, go
back to the late 1600s or early 1700s.>

All David wrote was quite correct but he may not have read my
analysis last week based on the 1851 census. We had Lydia BARNETT
[living with the NATHAN family as mother-in-law] born in London in 1781.

You often find in the censuses that widowed parents or older
unmarried sisters etc etc live with the family. Thus if you find such
a "lucky link" in the 1841 census you can go far back into the 1700s!
Remember, most people did not discard their old folk in those days.

Celia Male [U.K.]

ISO NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

Seeking references to / researchers of George NEUMANN of Vienna,
Austria (d. 1962 NY).
NEUMANN, his CT-born wife Vera Salaff NEUMANN (d. 1993), and fellow
emigre Frederick Werner HAMM (d. 1960) established the Vera textile
company in 1946. "Vera" is best known for bold scarf designs (c1960s),
with a ladybug logo.
Mr. NEUMANN was part of the Vienna circle of friends that included
artist Sacha KOLIN, the focus of my research.
All leads welcome.

With Appreciation,
Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL, US) lisathaler@...
Researching... Artist Sacha KOLIN (1911 Paris-1981 NYC; res. -1936
Vienna), www.sachakolin.com

Vienna microfilm #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

I have just sent in an order for 4 of the LDS Vienna Matrikel
microfilm that Henry Wellisch identified as new to be available at
the IAJGS conference. They are the Ubergetretenen >from 1876 to
1938 with indexing >from 1868-1941. LDS films : 1780882, 1781112,
1781113, 1781114. If they arrive, feel free to use them at the
conference or afterwards for the rest of the loan period at the
Brooklyn Family History Library.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech ISO NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

Seeking references to / researchers of George NEUMANN of Vienna,
Austria (d. 1962 NY).
NEUMANN, his CT-born wife Vera Salaff NEUMANN (d. 1993), and fellow
emigre Frederick Werner HAMM (d. 1960) established the Vera textile
company in 1946. "Vera" is best known for bold scarf designs (c1960s),
with a ladybug logo.
Mr. NEUMANN was part of the Vienna circle of friends that included
artist Sacha KOLIN, the focus of my research.
All leads welcome.

With Appreciation,
Lisa THALER (Chicago, IL, US) lisathaler@...
Researching... Artist Sacha KOLIN (1911 Paris-1981 NYC; res. -1936
Vienna), www.sachakolin.com

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Vienna microfilm #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

I have just sent in an order for 4 of the LDS Vienna Matrikel
microfilm that Henry Wellisch identified as new to be available at
the IAJGS conference. They are the Ubergetretenen >from 1876 to
1938 with indexing >from 1868-1941. LDS films : 1780882, 1781112,
1781113, 1781114. If they arrive, feel free to use them at the
conference or afterwards for the rest of the loan period at the
Brooklyn Family History Library.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

AustriaCzech members at IAJGS conference #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

Conference attendees have already heard that the SIG meeting is
scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday. I hope we can get a report on the
status of the SIG, it's treasury (both for maintenance of the Web
page and for Research) and how many moderators we have/need as well
as co-ordinators. I do want to thank Sharla Levine who has been the
co-ordinator and a moderator for the entire time the SIG has existed,
first sharing duties with Randy and then alone?? I hope that we can
recruit new moderators, and co-ordinators who can revitalize the SIG.

If anyone SIG member attending the conference is interested in trying
to get together for an evening coffee or a casual dinner in a small
group, please write me. Also check the conference bulletin boards
for any possible SIG messages.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech AustriaCzech members at IAJGS conference #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

Conference attendees have already heard that the SIG meeting is
scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday. I hope we can get a report on the
status of the SIG, it's treasury (both for maintenance of the Web
page and for Research) and how many moderators we have/need as well
as co-ordinators. I do want to thank Sharla Levine who has been the
co-ordinator and a moderator for the entire time the SIG has existed,
first sharing duties with Randy and then alone?? I hope that we can
recruit new moderators, and co-ordinators who can revitalize the SIG.

If anyone SIG member attending the conference is interested in trying
to get together for an evening coffee or a casual dinner in a small
group, please write me. Also check the conference bulletin boards
for any possible SIG messages.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax, VA

Amended list of Austria-Czech - Jewish students at Heidelberg, 1893-97 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

re this URL I discussed yesterday with additional information about
an interesting member of the list of students:

http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~f25/stud-hd/ss1893

Change the dates >from 1893>1894>1895>1986>1897 to see all the data.

Sorry - I missed out a few Viennese students yesterday - so here is
an amended list. If you look for Wien [please note that some may not
be Jewish] you will find:

ARNOT Robert 94; BLEIER Otto 93 94; COHN Paul 92 94; FANTO Emil 97
FRIEDMANN, Alexand. 91 93; FRITZ Siegmund 96; FULDA Hugo 95,
GEIRINGER Heinrich 93 95; HEIDRICH Hugo 92; HERSCHMANN Paul Dr, 93
94; HERTZKA Lothar 92 95; HORNBOSTEL Eric Ritter von 96; KITT Moritz
94; KOHN Alfred 97; LIEBEN Ernst 97 and Ernst v LIEBEN 95; MUHR Felix
94 95; NEURATH Friedrich 93; PAWECK Heinrich 92; REGENSDORFER Karl 94
96; REIK Richard 94 95; SEIDEL Heinrich 92 93; SIMON Otto 96; SCHNELL
Ludwig; SOMMER Rudolf 94 96; ZETTEL Theodor 93

Erich Ritter von HORNBOSTEL fascinated me so I googled and found
this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Hornbostel
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.h/h888659.htm

Born: February 25 1877 Vienna - died November 28 1935 Cambridge UK
Grandson of Theodor von HORNBOSTEL:

http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.h/h889690.htm

Erich Moritz von HORNBOSTEL's mother was Jewish - who was she?
Perhaps we will have some interesting links here. That is why he
landed up in Cambridge, where he died. Is he the first
ethno-musicologist we have written about on our SIG?

Celia Male [U.K.]

NY Conference attendees list - August 2006 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I have been asked by many Siggers about which Austria-Czech members
will be present at the NY conference.

I am willing to compile a list beforehand and publish it as a
posting, but only if you give me permission for your name to be
listed. So if you let me know asap, I will add your name to the list
for circulation to our 800 members who I am sure will be most
interested. Indeed some may have questions to put to you afterwards
or even beforehand! If you are giving a talk please let us know.

Also if any vital decisions are to be taken about our SIG, we must
know who is present to represent us.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Amended list of Austria-Czech - Jewish students at Heidelberg, 1893-97 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

re this URL I discussed yesterday with additional information about
an interesting member of the list of students:

http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~f25/stud-hd/ss1893

Change the dates >from 1893>1894>1895>1986>1897 to see all the data.

Sorry - I missed out a few Viennese students yesterday - so here is
an amended list. If you look for Wien [please note that some may not
be Jewish] you will find:

ARNOT Robert 94; BLEIER Otto 93 94; COHN Paul 92 94; FANTO Emil 97
FRIEDMANN, Alexand. 91 93; FRITZ Siegmund 96; FULDA Hugo 95,
GEIRINGER Heinrich 93 95; HEIDRICH Hugo 92; HERSCHMANN Paul Dr, 93
94; HERTZKA Lothar 92 95; HORNBOSTEL Eric Ritter von 96; KITT Moritz
94; KOHN Alfred 97; LIEBEN Ernst 97 and Ernst v LIEBEN 95; MUHR Felix
94 95; NEURATH Friedrich 93; PAWECK Heinrich 92; REGENSDORFER Karl 94
96; REIK Richard 94 95; SEIDEL Heinrich 92 93; SIMON Otto 96; SCHNELL
Ludwig; SOMMER Rudolf 94 96; ZETTEL Theodor 93

Erich Ritter von HORNBOSTEL fascinated me so I googled and found
this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Hornbostel
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.h/h888659.htm

Born: February 25 1877 Vienna - died November 28 1935 Cambridge UK
Grandson of Theodor von HORNBOSTEL:

http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.h/h889690.htm

Erich Moritz von HORNBOSTEL's mother was Jewish - who was she?
Perhaps we will have some interesting links here. That is why he
landed up in Cambridge, where he died. Is he the first
ethno-musicologist we have written about on our SIG?

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech NY Conference attendees list - August 2006 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I have been asked by many Siggers about which Austria-Czech members
will be present at the NY conference.

I am willing to compile a list beforehand and publish it as a
posting, but only if you give me permission for your name to be
listed. So if you let me know asap, I will add your name to the list
for circulation to our 800 members who I am sure will be most
interested. Indeed some may have questions to put to you afterwards
or even beforehand! If you are giving a talk please let us know.

Also if any vital decisions are to be taken about our SIG, we must
know who is present to represent us.

Celia Male [U.K.]

First Name Odeh #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I recently obtained a photo of my uncle taken in Brest-Litovsk in 1927
which was presented to a friend and it contained an inscription. My uncle signed
his name Odeh instead of his real name Motel (Mordecai).

Would someone please tell me what is Odeh, a nickname, term of affection or
friendship, etc.?

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
HIRSCHFELD, LINDENBAUM, BUCHSBAUM- Skwarzawa, Gliniany, Sielec Bienkow,
Kamionka Strumilowa- Galicia
MINOWICKI, TOBIASZ-Brest-Livovsk, Belarus

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First Name Odeh #general

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I recently obtained a photo of my uncle taken in Brest-Litovsk in 1927
which was presented to a friend and it contained an inscription. My uncle signed
his name Odeh instead of his real name Motel (Mordecai).

Would someone please tell me what is Odeh, a nickname, term of affection or
friendship, etc.?

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
HIRSCHFELD, LINDENBAUM, BUCHSBAUM- Skwarzawa, Gliniany, Sielec Bienkow,
Kamionka Strumilowa- Galicia
MINOWICKI, TOBIASZ-Brest-Livovsk, Belarus

Re: Question regarding naming patterns & religion #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

It should be pointed out that most traditional Jews did not get
photographed very often. Usually there was an important event, and the
family went to the photographer so they would have a picture to send to
relatives abroad. If any of you have attended weddings recently, you have
realized that the photographers and camcorder operators are boss. The same
was true in the Old Country. If the photographer told the young men to take
off their hats for the photograph they did so. My Orthodox grandparents are
photographed with hat (male) and kerchief (female) but my father and his
brother and brother-in-law are bareheaded. This was probably the only time
my father was bareheaded!
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

I've had a fairly easy time figuring out naming
patterns for 3 of my 4 family branches, but my
Zeidee's family is giving me some trouble.

Now, perhaps I've simply not gone back far enough in
the tree to find certain names, but what I have so far
looks like the names were mostly original.

Snip >
I also found a photograph of my Zeidee's family while
they were still in Russia (they were >from Olszany, now
Golshany in Belarus) and was shocked to see that his
mother was not wearing a shetl (or any other head
covering, although the photo was taken outdoors and
there is snow on the ground).

My Zeidee was an extremely devout man, so we always
assumed he came >from a devout family, but now I'm not
so sure. Can I assume anything about the lack of a
shetl on my g-GM, or >from the seeming lack of a naming
pattern? Has anyone else found a line of their family
where the naming pattern seems unique?

Dayna Chalif

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Question regarding naming patterns & religion #general

Ida & Joseph Schwarcz
 

It should be pointed out that most traditional Jews did not get
photographed very often. Usually there was an important event, and the
family went to the photographer so they would have a picture to send to
relatives abroad. If any of you have attended weddings recently, you have
realized that the photographers and camcorder operators are boss. The same
was true in the Old Country. If the photographer told the young men to take
off their hats for the photograph they did so. My Orthodox grandparents are
photographed with hat (male) and kerchief (female) but my father and his
brother and brother-in-law are bareheaded. This was probably the only time
my father was bareheaded!
Ida Selavan Schwarcz
Arad, Israel

I've had a fairly easy time figuring out naming
patterns for 3 of my 4 family branches, but my
Zeidee's family is giving me some trouble.

Now, perhaps I've simply not gone back far enough in
the tree to find certain names, but what I have so far
looks like the names were mostly original.

Snip >
I also found a photograph of my Zeidee's family while
they were still in Russia (they were >from Olszany, now
Golshany in Belarus) and was shocked to see that his
mother was not wearing a shetl (or any other head
covering, although the photo was taken outdoors and
there is snow on the ground).

My Zeidee was an extremely devout man, so we always
assumed he came >from a devout family, but now I'm not
so sure. Can I assume anything about the lack of a
shetl on my g-GM, or >from the seeming lack of a naming
pattern? Has anyone else found a line of their family
where the naming pattern seems unique?

Dayna Chalif