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Re: CARO #general

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Hello,

There was, in the early 19th Century, a Phoebus CARO
in Graaff Reinet, South Africa, a member of the Poznan
CARO family.

Here are notes that I have made about him:

"Graaff Reinet was the location of one of the trading
houses owned by the Mosenthal family, Jews from
Kassel. This store was opened in late 1842 by the
brothers Adolph and Joseph MOSENTHAL and was managed
by Phoebus (Feibusch ) CARO, a Jew >from Posen (now
Poznañ) in Prussian Poland. He was a steerage
passenger on board a ship, the “Waterloo”, bound for
Tasmania, which ran aground off the Cape on the 28th
August 1842. He was one of 90 survivors, and landed
in South Africa destitute . There, he met Adolph and
Joseph MOSENTHAL, and the latter, remembering his own
sad predicament when he had arrived penniless in Cape
Town in 1833, offered CARO employment. CARO ran the
MOSENTHALs’ store in Graaff Reinet, and eventually
became a wealthy and prominent citizen of the town."

If anyone can give me more details about Phoebus
CARO's ancestry, I would be very grateful.

cc to SA SIG

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...>

Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Re: CARO #scandinavia

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Hello,

There was, in the early 19th Century, a Phoebus CARO
in Graaff Reinet, South Africa, a member of the Poznan
CARO family.

Here are notes that I have made about him:

"Graaff Reinet was the location of one of the trading
houses owned by the Mosenthal family, Jews from
Kassel. This store was opened in late 1842 by the
brothers Adolph and Joseph MOSENTHAL and was managed
by Phoebus (Feibusch ) CARO, a Jew >from Posen (now
Poznañ) in Prussian Poland. He was a steerage
passenger on board a ship, the “Waterloo”, bound for
Tasmania, which ran aground off the Cape on the 28th
August 1842. He was one of 90 survivors, and landed
in South Africa destitute . There, he met Adolph and
Joseph MOSENTHAL, and the latter, remembering his own
sad predicament when he had arrived penniless in Cape
Town in 1833, offered CARO employment. CARO ran the
MOSENTHALs’ store in Graaff Reinet, and eventually
became a wealthy and prominent citizen of the town."

If anyone can give me more details about Phoebus
CARO's ancestry, I would be very grateful.

cc to SA SIG

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@...>

Re: Breznitz in Galicia? #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel asks about the location of a town called
Breznitz - is it in Galicia and if not, could it be the town in
Bohemia?

Breznitz [Breznice], in the Prachiner Kreis [County/District],
Bohemia is 65km SW of Prague. It had an old-established Jewish
community [16th century or earlier] I have the 1793 census - and
there are 21 Jewish families living there. Breznitz was the seat of
the ***District Rabbi***, which was therefore a prestigious position.

The Kreis Rabbiner in 1793 was Moysis MUMELES >from Prague and he had
quite a large family with five sons aged 14-21 and two daughters [10
and 13]. Moysis MUMELES was probably born abt 1745.

I know that many of the rabbis in Bohemia were "imported" from
Galicia and Moravia - so there is no reason that Yossi's relative was
not of Galician origin serving as Kreis Rabbiner before MUMELES.

Earlier censuses and the Jewish Museum Prague will probably be able
to confirm this. The latter has amazing records.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: The Austria-Czech SIG deals with this region - see
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Breznitz in Galicia? #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel asks about the location of a town called
Breznitz - is it in Galicia and if not, could it be the town in
Bohemia?

Breznitz [Breznice], in the Prachiner Kreis [County/District],
Bohemia is 65km SW of Prague. It had an old-established Jewish
community [16th century or earlier] I have the 1793 census - and
there are 21 Jewish families living there. Breznitz was the seat of
the ***District Rabbi***, which was therefore a prestigious position.

The Kreis Rabbiner in 1793 was Moysis MUMELES >from Prague and he had
quite a large family with five sons aged 14-21 and two daughters [10
and 13]. Moysis MUMELES was probably born abt 1745.

I know that many of the rabbis in Bohemia were "imported" from
Galicia and Moravia - so there is no reason that Yossi's relative was
not of Galician origin serving as Kreis Rabbiner before MUMELES.

Earlier censuses and the Jewish Museum Prague will probably be able
to confirm this. The latter has amazing records.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: The Austria-Czech SIG deals with this region - see
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

emigrants who perished in Yugoslavia #austria-czech

Mathias Hanau
 

Anyone, anywhere who had relatives friends who were emigrants perished in
Yugoslavia? I'm writing a book concerning these refugees, murdered in
Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. I collected 1700 names of Asutrian, German,
Czechoclovakian, Hungarian refugees. Most of them were on the way to Eretz
(including the Kladovo transport). Many of them that I have on the list are
not written/recorded in any German or Austrian Gendenkbücher. Any info is
worth.
Mathias Hanau

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respons privately

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech emigrants who perished in Yugoslavia #austria-czech

Mathias Hanau
 

Anyone, anywhere who had relatives friends who were emigrants perished in
Yugoslavia? I'm writing a book concerning these refugees, murdered in
Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia. I collected 1700 names of Asutrian, German,
Czechoclovakian, Hungarian refugees. Most of them were on the way to Eretz
(including the Kladovo transport). Many of them that I have on the list are
not written/recorded in any German or Austrian Gendenkbücher. Any info is
worth.
Mathias Hanau

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respons privately

Re: George NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Lisa Thaler has asked us about George NEUMANN of Vienna,
Austria who died at a relatively young age [Jan. 1962] in NY.

George NEUMANN, his CT-born wife Vera Salaff NEUMANN (d. 1993), and
fellow emigre Frederick Werner HAMM (d. 1960) >from Germany
established the Vera textile company in 1946. "Vera" is best known
for bold scarf designs (c1960s), with a ladybug [ladybird/
Marienkafer] logo - Google "Vera+Scarf"

George NEUMANN was part of the Vienna circle of friends that included
artist Sacha KOLIN, the focus of Lisa's intensive research {Sacha
KOLIN (born 1911 Paris - 1981 NYC; res. -1936 Vienna).

Lisa [we have only ever met on the SIG!] and I have collaborated
successfully before on aspects of Sacha KOLIN's life and you can see
the messages in the SIG archives. After a flurry of emails last
night, I was able to confirm that the father of George NEUMANN was
Emanuel NEUMANN >from Vienna - dob 14 May 1879 and these are either
his children [siblings of George] or his nephews and nieces - Ernst
is probably a cousin. These other NEUMANN may be serendipitously
linked to Emanuel, but it is unlikely:

NEUMANN Max 22 Dec 1909; NEUMANN Lisbeth 11 Nov 1910; NEUMANN Ernst
20 Jan 1879.

So if you know about any of the above, it would be a great help.
George sadly predeceased his father Emanuel in NY.

Tragically we can read that Ernst on "Letter to the Stars" that Ernst
was born in Vienna and his last known address was: Wien 1, Kohlmarkt
5/6. He was deported to Theresienstadt on 10.09.1942 and there is no
further information on his fate. On Yad vashem we read more:

"Transport IV/10 >from Wien to Terezin on 11/09/1942" and then
"Transport Et >from Terezin to Auschwitz on 23/10/1944"

Two other people were deported >from this address, but I suspect they
were fellow residents in the apartment block not relatives:

Julie DOCTOR born 28.02.1869 in ?
Franz WEINBERGER born 28.02.1897 in ?

We remember them all here today and all the many NEUMANN victims on
Yad vashem.

I have a probable address for Ing. Emanuel NEUMANN in the prestigious
Cottage district of Vienna - Haizingergasse 43, Vienna XIII; so we
should be able to get more data now. Incidentally [or perhaps that is
how Sacha and Georg met as children?] it is very close to the
Weimarerstr. address where Sacha and her family lived! Sacha, George
and his siblings probably all played together in the lovely
Turkenschanz Park where I am sure they saw lots of *ladybirds*!

Ing. Emanuel was the Director of the *Sabel Electrical Light and
Power Installation Co" in Vienna - so another possible link with
Sacha's father Julius KOLIN who was himself a mechanical engineer:
see www.sachakolin.com

Lisa has miraculously retrieved Emanuel's WWII registration where it
appears he is an engineer {machinist?] in 1942 so I am hopeful I have
found the right family. The jigsaw puzzle fits together beautifully.

This shows once again that one can piece together a mystery by using
many different sources of information in a relatively short time.
Definitive proof lies in the archives in Vienna.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: George NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Lisa Thaler has asked us about George NEUMANN of Vienna,
Austria who died at a relatively young age [Jan. 1962] in NY.

George NEUMANN, his CT-born wife Vera Salaff NEUMANN (d. 1993), and
fellow emigre Frederick Werner HAMM (d. 1960) >from Germany
established the Vera textile company in 1946. "Vera" is best known
for bold scarf designs (c1960s), with a ladybug [ladybird/
Marienkafer] logo - Google "Vera+Scarf"

George NEUMANN was part of the Vienna circle of friends that included
artist Sacha KOLIN, the focus of Lisa's intensive research {Sacha
KOLIN (born 1911 Paris - 1981 NYC; res. -1936 Vienna).

Lisa [we have only ever met on the SIG!] and I have collaborated
successfully before on aspects of Sacha KOLIN's life and you can see
the messages in the SIG archives. After a flurry of emails last
night, I was able to confirm that the father of George NEUMANN was
Emanuel NEUMANN >from Vienna - dob 14 May 1879 and these are either
his children [siblings of George] or his nephews and nieces - Ernst
is probably a cousin. These other NEUMANN may be serendipitously
linked to Emanuel, but it is unlikely:

NEUMANN Max 22 Dec 1909; NEUMANN Lisbeth 11 Nov 1910; NEUMANN Ernst
20 Jan 1879.

So if you know about any of the above, it would be a great help.
George sadly predeceased his father Emanuel in NY.

Tragically we can read that Ernst on "Letter to the Stars" that Ernst
was born in Vienna and his last known address was: Wien 1, Kohlmarkt
5/6. He was deported to Theresienstadt on 10.09.1942 and there is no
further information on his fate. On Yad vashem we read more:

"Transport IV/10 >from Wien to Terezin on 11/09/1942" and then
"Transport Et >from Terezin to Auschwitz on 23/10/1944"

Two other people were deported >from this address, but I suspect they
were fellow residents in the apartment block not relatives:

Julie DOCTOR born 28.02.1869 in ?
Franz WEINBERGER born 28.02.1897 in ?

We remember them all here today and all the many NEUMANN victims on
Yad vashem.

I have a probable address for Ing. Emanuel NEUMANN in the prestigious
Cottage district of Vienna - Haizingergasse 43, Vienna XIII; so we
should be able to get more data now. Incidentally [or perhaps that is
how Sacha and Georg met as children?] it is very close to the
Weimarerstr. address where Sacha and her family lived! Sacha, George
and his siblings probably all played together in the lovely
Turkenschanz Park where I am sure they saw lots of *ladybirds*!

Ing. Emanuel was the Director of the *Sabel Electrical Light and
Power Installation Co" in Vienna - so another possible link with
Sacha's father Julius KOLIN who was himself a mechanical engineer:
see www.sachakolin.com

Lisa has miraculously retrieved Emanuel's WWII registration where it
appears he is an engineer {machinist?] in 1942 so I am hopeful I have
found the right family. The jigsaw puzzle fits together beautifully.

This shows once again that one can piece together a mystery by using
many different sources of information in a relatively short time.
Definitive proof lies in the archives in Vienna.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Re: AustriaCzech SIG Business #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Thank you very much Sharla for your account of the present status of
the SIG and its organisational structure - but could we also please
know how many members we have? It would also be nice to have a
geographic breakdown of membership, like they have on the Gersig
website.

I suspect is it abt 800 or more - but unfortunately only very few
people can attend the annual conferences - I have had ten names so
far in response to my request yesterday to compile an attendees list
->from Israel [2], Canada [1] and USA which includes one member from
Hawaii.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: AustriaCzech SIG Business #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Thank you very much Sharla for your account of the present status of
the SIG and its organisational structure - but could we also please
know how many members we have? It would also be nice to have a
geographic breakdown of membership, like they have on the Gersig
website.

I suspect is it abt 800 or more - but unfortunately only very few
people can attend the annual conferences - I have had ten names so
far in response to my request yesterday to compile an attendees list
->from Israel [2], Canada [1] and USA which includes one member from
Hawaii.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Searching for family names: MAREJN, SZMUKLER, KOBRYNIEC (KOBRINETZ) & GONIONDSKI #poland

Judy Goldrich <Goldrich@...>
 

Hello,

I am researching family members >from the Bialystok and Tykocin areas of
Grodno Geburnieh and Shereshev (Shereshevo)area of the last names
MAREJN, SZMUKLER, KOBRYNIEC (KOBRINETZ) and GONIONDSKI. Some members
of the families immigrated to the US and possibly other countries >from
Poland, Belarus, and elsewhere prior to WWI and WWII; others were
caught in the Holocaust and perished. There may be branches of my
family that survived and I would be interested in hearing >from anyone
with possible connections to these family names. Thanks.

Judy Goldrich
New Jersey, USA
goldrich@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: In addition to sending this message, if you haven't
already done so, make sure you enter the names and towns you are seeking
in the JewishGen Family Finder <www.jewishgen.org/jgff> so members of
those families can find you.

BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Searching for family names: MAREJN, SZMUKLER, KOBRYNIEC (KOBRINETZ) & GONIONDSKI #poland

Judy Goldrich <Goldrich@...>
 

Hello,

I am researching family members >from the Bialystok and Tykocin areas of
Grodno Geburnieh and Shereshev (Shereshevo)area of the last names
MAREJN, SZMUKLER, KOBRYNIEC (KOBRINETZ) and GONIONDSKI. Some members
of the families immigrated to the US and possibly other countries >from
Poland, Belarus, and elsewhere prior to WWI and WWII; others were
caught in the Holocaust and perished. There may be branches of my
family that survived and I would be interested in hearing >from anyone
with possible connections to these family names. Thanks.

Judy Goldrich
New Jersey, USA
goldrich@...

MODERATOR'S NOTE: In addition to sending this message, if you haven't
already done so, make sure you enter the names and towns you are seeking
in the JewishGen Family Finder <www.jewishgen.org/jgff> so members of
those families can find you.

Re: Searching for Aharon SHTEINMAN of Vileika #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

On 7/20/06, Judith27@... wrote:

I am trying to help a friend who was born in Europe shortly after
the Holocaust ended to find a cousin of hers, Aharon Shteinman or Aharon
Shtayman, whom she was told might have survived.
Aharon Shteinman/Shtayman may have been >from Vileika, near Vilnius.
I created a site for Vileika, Vilna region (Today in Belarus)
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html

Sadly, you could find Aharon Shteinmans' name in the list of perished
in the Yizkor book >from Vileika. There is only one Shteinman family
(3 members, Aharon and his unnamed parents) on the list and it seems
that they did not know the names of the parents (most other adults on
the list were named by the survivors) There are pictures of those who
perished and amongst the pictures you find a picture of the "Shteinman
Family" together with the family of Yosef Shmukler.

I posted the picture at;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html (Vileika
portraits)

Yosef Shmukler survived the war and died later on the way to Israel
but his wife and daughter perished during the war. Someone in Israel
had the picture, so it would be a good idea to get in touch with
Vileika survivors and see what they know. There are such people in
Kfar Haarif in Israel which was established by families of survivors
from Kurenets and Vileika, Shimon Zimerman (born in Kurenets, 4 miles
from Vileika, in 1923) is the head Kfar Harif and the Kurenets society.
His girlfriend is a survivor >from Vileika. They are both very
involved with the survivors and traveled many times back to the
Vileika area were they still have friends. They know much information
you should write or phone them as soon as possible.

Checking the Yad Vashem list I found 2 reports for Shteinmans >from the
area. One was by Avraham Shteinman who survived. He reported an uncle
from Kurenets. You should try to find him or his family in Israel.
There were a few cases of people who were reported as perished who
later were found to survive- could you write more details to me about
the family so I could post it on the Vileika site?

Thank you so much,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Searching for Aharon SHTEINMAN of Vileika #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

On 7/20/06, Judith27@... wrote:

I am trying to help a friend who was born in Europe shortly after
the Holocaust ended to find a cousin of hers, Aharon Shteinman or Aharon
Shtayman, whom she was told might have survived.
Aharon Shteinman/Shtayman may have been >from Vileika, near Vilnius.
I created a site for Vileika, Vilna region (Today in Belarus)
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html

Sadly, you could find Aharon Shteinmans' name in the list of perished
in the Yizkor book >from Vileika. There is only one Shteinman family
(3 members, Aharon and his unnamed parents) on the list and it seems
that they did not know the names of the parents (most other adults on
the list were named by the survivors) There are pictures of those who
perished and amongst the pictures you find a picture of the "Shteinman
Family" together with the family of Yosef Shmukler.

I posted the picture at;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html (Vileika
portraits)

Yosef Shmukler survived the war and died later on the way to Israel
but his wife and daughter perished during the war. Someone in Israel
had the picture, so it would be a good idea to get in touch with
Vileika survivors and see what they know. There are such people in
Kfar Haarif in Israel which was established by families of survivors
from Kurenets and Vileika, Shimon Zimerman (born in Kurenets, 4 miles
from Vileika, in 1923) is the head Kfar Harif and the Kurenets society.
His girlfriend is a survivor >from Vileika. They are both very
involved with the survivors and traveled many times back to the
Vileika area were they still have friends. They know much information
you should write or phone them as soon as possible.

Checking the Yad Vashem list I found 2 reports for Shteinmans >from the
area. One was by Avraham Shteinman who survived. He reported an uncle
from Kurenets. You should try to find him or his family in Israel.
There were a few cases of people who were reported as perished who
later were found to survive- could you write more details to me about
the family so I could post it on the Vileika site?

Thank you so much,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles

Galician Records Mystery - Partial Solution #poland

Howard Fink <HowGen@...>
 

Last month I posted a message about a mystery related to
indices that JRI-Poland had received for Tarnow, but which
did not match up with any actual records in the Tarnow Archives.
There were two sets of unknown indices: 3240 Births and 2646
Deaths.

As a result of a very intuitive analysis by Marilyn Dornhelm, we
now know the true source of one set of these indices. The Birth
index is actually >from Tarnopol. This is not at all close to
Tarnow geographically, but very close alphabetically. A possible
explanation is that this set of indices was collected with many
other records during war years and then "returned" to the wrong
archive later on, possibly because of a torn or illegible label.
We are going to ask the Archivist to take a closer look. Perhaps
the old label is still there but hard to read or covered up.

This index does not match the index that JRI-Poland already has
for Tarnopol, because the surnames of the new-born child are
sometimes the mother's name rather than the father's (as they
are in the existing Tarnopol index). The given names are an
almost exact match with the previous Tarnopol index. Apparently
the newly discovered, mislabeled index was made using legal
surnames, reflecting whether or not the parents were married in
a civil ceremony, without regard to a religious marriage. We
will be looking at a way to integrate this information with the
Tarnopol index that is on-line already.

On behalf of JRI-Poland, I want to extend our deepest appreciation
to Marilyn Dornhelm for solving this mystery for us. At the same
time I would like to thank the many others who replied with ideas!

I have removed the Tarnopol Births >from the mystery file and placed
a new file containing only the mystery Deaths on-line. The file
also has a list of surnames, sorted both alphabetically and by
frequency. This new Excel file may be downloaded from:
http://www.jri-poland.org/TarnowMysteryDeaths.xls

Please take a second look at the surnames in this revised list and
see if you can help us find the true source of this last set of
records (Deaths 1877-1899, plus a small number through 1942).

Thank you,

Howard Fink
Tarnow Archive Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

JRI Poland #Poland Galician Records Mystery - Partial Solution #poland

Howard Fink <HowGen@...>
 

Last month I posted a message about a mystery related to
indices that JRI-Poland had received for Tarnow, but which
did not match up with any actual records in the Tarnow Archives.
There were two sets of unknown indices: 3240 Births and 2646
Deaths.

As a result of a very intuitive analysis by Marilyn Dornhelm, we
now know the true source of one set of these indices. The Birth
index is actually >from Tarnopol. This is not at all close to
Tarnow geographically, but very close alphabetically. A possible
explanation is that this set of indices was collected with many
other records during war years and then "returned" to the wrong
archive later on, possibly because of a torn or illegible label.
We are going to ask the Archivist to take a closer look. Perhaps
the old label is still there but hard to read or covered up.

This index does not match the index that JRI-Poland already has
for Tarnopol, because the surnames of the new-born child are
sometimes the mother's name rather than the father's (as they
are in the existing Tarnopol index). The given names are an
almost exact match with the previous Tarnopol index. Apparently
the newly discovered, mislabeled index was made using legal
surnames, reflecting whether or not the parents were married in
a civil ceremony, without regard to a religious marriage. We
will be looking at a way to integrate this information with the
Tarnopol index that is on-line already.

On behalf of JRI-Poland, I want to extend our deepest appreciation
to Marilyn Dornhelm for solving this mystery for us. At the same
time I would like to thank the many others who replied with ideas!

I have removed the Tarnopol Births >from the mystery file and placed
a new file containing only the mystery Deaths on-line. The file
also has a list of surnames, sorted both alphabetically and by
frequency. This new Excel file may be downloaded from:
http://www.jri-poland.org/TarnowMysteryDeaths.xls

Please take a second look at the surnames in this revised list and
see if you can help us find the true source of this last set of
records (Deaths 1877-1899, plus a small number through 1942).

Thank you,

Howard Fink
Tarnow Archive Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland

Re naming patterns & religion #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Cyndee Meystel wrote:

My husband's great-grandmother always covered her hair (with a
"parouk" -- a forerunner of today's sheitel)
Judith Romney Wegner replied:

Presumably, "parouk" is a phonetic rendering of the French word "perruque" --
meaning wig. I have never heard anyone refer to a sheitel as a perruque, and am
wondering why your family did not simply call it a "sheitel." Were they French
Jews who perhaps no longer spoke Yiddish?

and I add: in our home my parents and grandparents (>from Vienna) called it a
"Perueke", the German word for wig. I did not know the word "sheitel" until
I was older and learned to understand Yiddish on my own. I presume my family
did not want to utter any Yiddish words, even though we lived in the US, out
of fear. I am sure that is why our Mezuzah was on the inside of our
apartment door and not outside for others to see.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re naming patterns & religion #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Cyndee Meystel wrote:

My husband's great-grandmother always covered her hair (with a
"parouk" -- a forerunner of today's sheitel)
Judith Romney Wegner replied:

Presumably, "parouk" is a phonetic rendering of the French word "perruque" --
meaning wig. I have never heard anyone refer to a sheitel as a perruque, and am
wondering why your family did not simply call it a "sheitel." Were they French
Jews who perhaps no longer spoke Yiddish?

and I add: in our home my parents and grandparents (>from Vienna) called it a
"Perueke", the German word for wig. I did not know the word "sheitel" until
I was older and learned to understand Yiddish on my own. I presume my family
did not want to utter any Yiddish words, even though we lived in the US, out
of fear. I am sure that is why our Mezuzah was on the inside of our
apartment door and not outside for others to see.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@...

Rabbi Shmuel Ungar #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

I am looking for info on a Rav Shmuel, Rav in Wolbrom, before 1800.
Dynner, in "Men of Silk," mentions a Rav Samuel Ungar, Rav of Olkasz
and previously >from Pilca, around 1806.

Since all 3 towns/villages, are in the same vicinity and interacted
with each other, both politically and socially, I'm wondering if
this might be the Rav Shmuel, Rav of Wolbrom.

Can anyone help?

N. Dreyfuss

Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Shmuel Ungar #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

I am looking for info on a Rav Shmuel, Rav in Wolbrom, before 1800.
Dynner, in "Men of Silk," mentions a Rav Samuel Ungar, Rav of Olkasz
and previously >from Pilca, around 1806.

Since all 3 towns/villages, are in the same vicinity and interacted
with each other, both politically and socially, I'm wondering if
this might be the Rav Shmuel, Rav of Wolbrom.

Can anyone help?

N. Dreyfuss