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Re: Ships Leaving from Leizbow, England #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

My grandmother said she sailed with her family to Ellis Island from
Leizbow,England. I am not sure of the spelling. Is anyone familiar
with what port that might be?

Rob Levin
How about Libau (Liepaja in Latvian)? It's on the Baltic coast west of
Riga. My grandmother came through there on her way >from Ukraine in 1926.
Her papers show that she crossed the USSR-Latvia border at Sebeis (Sebez)
and took a ship >from "Riga, Liepaja" to Southampton and then Quebec. The
Canadian inspection stamp says Port of Riga, so Libau was apparently this
port.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
------------
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Tavrig)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


East Coast BECKERMANS #general

HF <reks@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of a
Maurice Beckerman bn 1919 +/- as well as a
Benjamin Beckerman bn 1916 +/-

Their mother's name was Helen and these brothers also had a sister.

Maurice lived in Norwalk Conn. in the 1960's.

Benjamin may have died in the early 1980's.

Thanks for any help/leads


Bob Hennes
reks@win.bright.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ships Leaving from Leizbow, England #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

My grandmother said she sailed with her family to Ellis Island from
Leizbow,England. I am not sure of the spelling. Is anyone familiar
with what port that might be?

Rob Levin
How about Libau (Liepaja in Latvian)? It's on the Baltic coast west of
Riga. My grandmother came through there on her way >from Ukraine in 1926.
Her papers show that she crossed the USSR-Latvia border at Sebeis (Sebez)
and took a ship >from "Riga, Liepaja" to Southampton and then Quebec. The
Canadian inspection stamp says Port of Riga, so Libau was apparently this
port.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
------------
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Tavrig)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen East Coast BECKERMANS #general

HF <reks@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of a
Maurice Beckerman bn 1919 +/- as well as a
Benjamin Beckerman bn 1916 +/-

Their mother's name was Helen and these brothers also had a sister.

Maurice lived in Norwalk Conn. in the 1960's.

Benjamin may have died in the early 1980's.

Thanks for any help/leads


Bob Hennes
reks@win.bright.net


DEFELE/DAEFELE/SINN family #general

Genealicej@...
 

I am looking for the DEFELE or DAEFELE family >from Kochendorf, now Bad
Friedrichshall, Baden Wuerttemberg, Germany.

Abraham Baer DAEFELE/DEFELE born 1787 Kochendorf died 1874 married Jette
SINN of Stein born 1801 and died 2 May 1864. Their daughter Sara 1838-1913
married Aron HERZ 1839-1906.

Alice Josephs
UK
My own websites, each with a full family tree, are at <AHREF="http://members.tripod.co.uk/AliceJosephs/">http://members.tripod.co
.uk/AliceJosephs/</A><AHREF="http://index.HTM">index.HTM</A><AHREF="http://
www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/home.htm">http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/ho
me.htm</A><AHREF="http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm">
http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm</A>

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DEFELE/DAEFELE/SINN family #general

Genealicej@...
 

I am looking for the DEFELE or DAEFELE family >from Kochendorf, now Bad
Friedrichshall, Baden Wuerttemberg, Germany.

Abraham Baer DAEFELE/DEFELE born 1787 Kochendorf died 1874 married Jette
SINN of Stein born 1801 and died 2 May 1864. Their daughter Sara 1838-1913
married Aron HERZ 1839-1906.

Alice Josephs
UK
My own websites, each with a full family tree, are at <AHREF="http://members.tripod.co.uk/AliceJosephs/">http://members.tripod.co
.uk/AliceJosephs/</A><AHREF="http://index.HTM">index.HTM</A><AHREF="http://
www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/home.htm">http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/ho
me.htm</A><AHREF="http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm">
http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm</A>

<<<snip>>>to allowable 6 lines


Re: Message on Jewish Gen 3/20 #general

Rosa3035@...
 

In response to the many replies received re my posting regarding finding a
copy of the Death Certificate of a cousin, several requested information
about the CSRA Inc. - Nationwide Death Index - XXI

I believe that I used the services of
<<<snip>>>

To further complicate my search I have to write that my cousins name was
"Sig Smith". He must have died probably somewhere other than where
he last lived, since there is no record in the County Registrars Office in
the county where he last lived. Lynbrook, L.I., Nassau county.
No knowledge of cemetery or mortician.
His birth date was April 8, 1903. He died May 19, 1990.
I have a copy of his SS-5, application for Social Security, dated December
2, 1936.
Have been unable to find Obit anywhere in state.
His sons names were William and Matthew.
NY State Department of Vital Records is no longer accepting mail-in
requests for copies of Vital Records.

I have tried Family Tree Maker, Anybirthday.com, RootsWeb.com, and I have
no idea of whether I can go further or not.

Once again many, many THANKS to all the very generous JGers.

NATHAN GREENBERG
San Diego, CA


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Message on Jewish Gen 3/20 #general

Rosa3035@...
 

In response to the many replies received re my posting regarding finding a
copy of the Death Certificate of a cousin, several requested information
about the CSRA Inc. - Nationwide Death Index - XXI

I believe that I used the services of
<<<snip>>>

To further complicate my search I have to write that my cousins name was
"Sig Smith". He must have died probably somewhere other than where
he last lived, since there is no record in the County Registrars Office in
the county where he last lived. Lynbrook, L.I., Nassau county.
No knowledge of cemetery or mortician.
His birth date was April 8, 1903. He died May 19, 1990.
I have a copy of his SS-5, application for Social Security, dated December
2, 1936.
Have been unable to find Obit anywhere in state.
His sons names were William and Matthew.
NY State Department of Vital Records is no longer accepting mail-in
requests for copies of Vital Records.

I have tried Family Tree Maker, Anybirthday.com, RootsWeb.com, and I have
no idea of whether I can go further or not.

Once again many, many THANKS to all the very generous JGers.

NATHAN GREENBERG
San Diego, CA


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testimonials can not be posted. Please contact the poster privately for
further information about the service.


Re: SALOSHIN #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article <20000318.085244.-195959.0.drothman1@juno.com>, David Rothman
<drothman1@juno.com> wrote:

Anybody ever seen people with name SALOSHIN?
Yes, but I don't think they're Jewish. I know the daughter, who's a
well-known broadcaster in the Boston area who goes by another name on the
air and is now married (I'm not sure if she uses his name at all). They're
from the Bethesda, Maryland, area.
I just checked the phone book and what is probably her father is listed
as "Saloschin" (SIC)

(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


Rumania Rumania #general

rokoco1@...
 

I am unfamiliar with the newsletter about RUMANIA RUMANIA, but If you wish to
'hear' the song, just log on to the Shtetlinks - Dolj County site

http:www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/dolj/Dolj.html

Scroll down to "Sights and Sounds of Romania" and follow instructions and
enjoy.

Bobbi Cohen
Dolj County Coordinator


Seeking Sam TUCHMAN #general

Kelly Modlin
 

I'm sending this message on behalf of ARMON Michael (Moni) a
friend, who is a member of our Kibbutz. He does't have access to
the Internet and has lost contact with his relations who are
listed below:

TUCHMAN Sam wife Betty
Lives/lived: Malibo California 90265

Sister:
SAFRAN Anne
Resada - California 91335

Brother:
TUCHMAN Al

Brother:
TUCHMAN Sack

Whoever has any information regarding the above mentioned persons
please contact me directly.

Kelly Modlin - Kibbutz Shluchot
kellym@shluhot.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: SALOSHIN #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article <20000318.085244.-195959.0.drothman1@juno.com>, David Rothman
<drothman1@juno.com> wrote:

Anybody ever seen people with name SALOSHIN?
Yes, but I don't think they're Jewish. I know the daughter, who's a
well-known broadcaster in the Boston area who goes by another name on the
air and is now married (I'm not sure if she uses his name at all). They're
from the Bethesda, Maryland, area.
I just checked the phone book and what is probably her father is listed
as "Saloschin" (SIC)

(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rumania Rumania #general

rokoco1@...
 

I am unfamiliar with the newsletter about RUMANIA RUMANIA, but If you wish to
'hear' the song, just log on to the Shtetlinks - Dolj County site

http:www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/dolj/Dolj.html

Scroll down to "Sights and Sounds of Romania" and follow instructions and
enjoy.

Bobbi Cohen
Dolj County Coordinator


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Sam TUCHMAN #general

Kelly Modlin
 

I'm sending this message on behalf of ARMON Michael (Moni) a
friend, who is a member of our Kibbutz. He does't have access to
the Internet and has lost contact with his relations who are
listed below:

TUCHMAN Sam wife Betty
Lives/lived: Malibo California 90265

Sister:
SAFRAN Anne
Resada - California 91335

Brother:
TUCHMAN Al

Brother:
TUCHMAN Sack

Whoever has any information regarding the above mentioned persons
please contact me directly.

Kelly Modlin - Kibbutz Shluchot
kellym@shluhot.org.il


Re: Deported passenger in the Passenger Arrival Index? #general

Willie46@...
 

In a message dated 3/23/2000 12:54:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Bruce Reisch
<bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu> writes:
I am looking through the soundex index of New York passenger arrivals
(1902-1943, National Archives Microfilm Series T621) for a person known
to have arrived in October 1921. He was detained due to an eye problem
and deported back to Warsaw soon thereafter, though his wife was
permitted to stay in New York. Will he still be found in the index to
passenger arrivals (and on the ship passenger manifest)?
Here are a few thoughts for you, based on the search for my grandfather's
entry into the US.

1) Family stories are not always factually correct.
2) By 1921, Shipping Companies were required to return, at their cost, any
immigrant not accepted by the US authorities. Therefore, the Shipping
Companies usually prescreened passengers prior to embarkation.
3) It was fairly easy to detect Trachoma, a contagious eye disease, in a
cursory physical exam.

I had always heard that my grandfather came to the US and was deported >from
Ellis Island because he had Trachoma. I confirmed this *story* with all of
my first cousins.

After two years of genealogical research, I was able to confirm that my
grandparents both attempted to immigrate to the US in 1926. Only my
grandmother boarded that ship in Danzig. My grandfather was rejected prior
to embarkation. He resided in a small town near Danzig until my grandmother
returned >from her "Vacation" in NY. My grandfather died of natural causes
in 1937 and my grandmother was able to finally immigrate to the US in 1938.

Sounds like your story may be similar. And, since the passenger manifests
were filled out prior to arrival in the US, your ancestor's name should be
in the index, even if he was subsequently deported.

Hope this helps,
Mark Halpern
West Conshohocken, PA

Searching: HALPERN, TENENBAUM, SASS, GRUNSEID, GORGEL -- Eastern Galician
towns of Tarnopol, Skalat, Plaucza Vielka, Kozlow, Urman, Petrikow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Deported passenger in the Passenger Arrival Index? #general

Willie46@...
 

In a message dated 3/23/2000 12:54:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Bruce Reisch
<bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu> writes:
I am looking through the soundex index of New York passenger arrivals
(1902-1943, National Archives Microfilm Series T621) for a person known
to have arrived in October 1921. He was detained due to an eye problem
and deported back to Warsaw soon thereafter, though his wife was
permitted to stay in New York. Will he still be found in the index to
passenger arrivals (and on the ship passenger manifest)?
Here are a few thoughts for you, based on the search for my grandfather's
entry into the US.

1) Family stories are not always factually correct.
2) By 1921, Shipping Companies were required to return, at their cost, any
immigrant not accepted by the US authorities. Therefore, the Shipping
Companies usually prescreened passengers prior to embarkation.
3) It was fairly easy to detect Trachoma, a contagious eye disease, in a
cursory physical exam.

I had always heard that my grandfather came to the US and was deported >from
Ellis Island because he had Trachoma. I confirmed this *story* with all of
my first cousins.

After two years of genealogical research, I was able to confirm that my
grandparents both attempted to immigrate to the US in 1926. Only my
grandmother boarded that ship in Danzig. My grandfather was rejected prior
to embarkation. He resided in a small town near Danzig until my grandmother
returned >from her "Vacation" in NY. My grandfather died of natural causes
in 1937 and my grandmother was able to finally immigrate to the US in 1938.

Sounds like your story may be similar. And, since the passenger manifests
were filled out prior to arrival in the US, your ancestor's name should be
in the index, even if he was subsequently deported.

Hope this helps,
Mark Halpern
West Conshohocken, PA

Searching: HALPERN, TENENBAUM, SASS, GRUNSEID, GORGEL -- Eastern Galician
towns of Tarnopol, Skalat, Plaucza Vielka, Kozlow, Urman, Petrikow


identity #belarus

JSelig3460@...
 

I accept Mr. Krauss' response as authoritative. It is unfair to use anecdotal
experience to make general claims.
Jerome Seligsohn
NYC


The final word on this subject, thank you.
Joanne Saltman, Moderator


Belarus SIG #Belarus identity #belarus

JSelig3460@...
 

I accept Mr. Krauss' response as authoritative. It is unfair to use anecdotal
experience to make general claims.
Jerome Seligsohn
NYC


The final word on this subject, thank you.
Joanne Saltman, Moderator


YIVO Landsmanshaften Bobruisk and Brest Litovsk [Brisker] #belarus

JSelig3460@...
 

The Reuben Guskin Brobroisker 206 Workman's Circle 1958-77 consisted of a
large ledger of proceedings all in Yiddish of meetings >from 1958-77. The one
name I could make out was a David Koff, Chairman of 2047 Holland Ave, Bx NY.
United Brisker Relief l916-1978 is a treasure of 20th century Jewish History
in Yiddish and English. It features the tragedies of the Belarussian Jewish
experience fro WWI through the Russian Civil War to the Holocaust and Israel.
It is rich in names, celebrities, pictures correspondence and the heroic
efforts of ordinary Jewish people attempting to help their less fortunate
brethren through a relief organization. Four boxes of material would need the
greatest efforts to bring this to the widest audience.
Having a Yiddish translator to help I would like to quote >from a letter
written in Yiddish to the organization. This took place with using YIVO's
dictionaries and librarians fighting their way through localisms and idioms.
It was written >from Brest Litovsk at Channukah 1919:
I can't write you everything that happened there but even a little bit of our
plight will be enough to elicit your pity,our good-hearted brethren. The city
is burned and destroyed.The city dwellers find themselves ruined to the
ground. The survivors don't even have a piece of bread. They find themselves
wet, naked and shoeless. The lucky ones can live in their relatives' houses.
It is obvious that life under such impossible circumstances leads to scary
sicknesses that shouldn't happen to any one, God Forbid![chas cholulyeh]. Our
eyes see it but we can't do anything to help. Hopefully,if these American
Jewish organizations hear about this they will distribute charity.[hospitals,
medical personnel and supplies]
The pictures alone deserve our attention. If you can get to the YIVO archive
to see these four boxes of materials do so. Unfortunately, archivists should
get to it before amateurs like me will wear away many of the fragile
materials.
Jerome Seligsohn
NYC


Belarus SIG #Belarus YIVO Landsmanshaften Bobruisk and Brest Litovsk [Brisker] #belarus

JSelig3460@...
 

The Reuben Guskin Brobroisker 206 Workman's Circle 1958-77 consisted of a
large ledger of proceedings all in Yiddish of meetings >from 1958-77. The one
name I could make out was a David Koff, Chairman of 2047 Holland Ave, Bx NY.
United Brisker Relief l916-1978 is a treasure of 20th century Jewish History
in Yiddish and English. It features the tragedies of the Belarussian Jewish
experience fro WWI through the Russian Civil War to the Holocaust and Israel.
It is rich in names, celebrities, pictures correspondence and the heroic
efforts of ordinary Jewish people attempting to help their less fortunate
brethren through a relief organization. Four boxes of material would need the
greatest efforts to bring this to the widest audience.
Having a Yiddish translator to help I would like to quote >from a letter
written in Yiddish to the organization. This took place with using YIVO's
dictionaries and librarians fighting their way through localisms and idioms.
It was written >from Brest Litovsk at Channukah 1919:
I can't write you everything that happened there but even a little bit of our
plight will be enough to elicit your pity,our good-hearted brethren. The city
is burned and destroyed.The city dwellers find themselves ruined to the
ground. The survivors don't even have a piece of bread. They find themselves
wet, naked and shoeless. The lucky ones can live in their relatives' houses.
It is obvious that life under such impossible circumstances leads to scary
sicknesses that shouldn't happen to any one, God Forbid![chas cholulyeh]. Our
eyes see it but we can't do anything to help. Hopefully,if these American
Jewish organizations hear about this they will distribute charity.[hospitals,
medical personnel and supplies]
The pictures alone deserve our attention. If you can get to the YIVO archive
to see these four boxes of materials do so. Unfortunately, archivists should
get to it before amateurs like me will wear away many of the fragile
materials.
Jerome Seligsohn
NYC