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"A complete list of all DP camps" #lithuania

Kapochunas, Andrew <KapochunasA@...>
 

I'm afraid that both Robert Strumwasser and Mark Budman may be on a
never-ending quest in trying to find a "complete" list of all DP camps. The
U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's website listing of 24 German camps, 9
Austrian and 9 Italian camps makes no claim to be complete, as the following quotes >from their individual DP Camp pages show:

"Bergen-Belsen was the only all-Jewish camp in the British zone of Germany."

"Duppel Center was the largest Jewish DP camp in the Berlin district." The
site does not mention the names of the others.

"Feldafing was the first all-Jewish DP camp."

Having been born in a DP Camp in Germany myself, I have done some research
on the topic. And lest my knowledgeable colleagues think I am merely
referring to non-Jewish camps, here is the composition of German Camp #716
(!) Hindenburg, Ulm, unmentioned by the Museum's site: Polish Jews: 1,110,
Hungarian Jews: 77, Rumanian Jews: 57, Czech Jews: 35, Russian Jews: 16,
Lithuanian Jews: 9, German Jews: 5, Yugoslavian Jews: 2, Austrian Jews: 1. I do not have the surnames.

There were many, many hundreds of "Official" DP Camps, and perhaps thousands of "Camps" which were requisitioned private homes and public buildings in which refugees were placed, often temporarily. Babies were born there, families and relatives were inquired about, and ID cards were stamped. The research is far >from complete.

Andrew Kapochunas
kapochunasa@dnb.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania "A complete list of all DP camps" #lithuania

Kapochunas, Andrew <KapochunasA@...>
 

I'm afraid that both Robert Strumwasser and Mark Budman may be on a
never-ending quest in trying to find a "complete" list of all DP camps. The
U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's website listing of 24 German camps, 9
Austrian and 9 Italian camps makes no claim to be complete, as the following quotes >from their individual DP Camp pages show:

"Bergen-Belsen was the only all-Jewish camp in the British zone of Germany."

"Duppel Center was the largest Jewish DP camp in the Berlin district." The
site does not mention the names of the others.

"Feldafing was the first all-Jewish DP camp."

Having been born in a DP Camp in Germany myself, I have done some research
on the topic. And lest my knowledgeable colleagues think I am merely
referring to non-Jewish camps, here is the composition of German Camp #716
(!) Hindenburg, Ulm, unmentioned by the Museum's site: Polish Jews: 1,110,
Hungarian Jews: 77, Rumanian Jews: 57, Czech Jews: 35, Russian Jews: 16,
Lithuanian Jews: 9, German Jews: 5, Yugoslavian Jews: 2, Austrian Jews: 1. I do not have the surnames.

There were many, many hundreds of "Official" DP Camps, and perhaps thousands of "Camps" which were requisitioned private homes and public buildings in which refugees were placed, often temporarily. Babies were born there, families and relatives were inquired about, and ID cards were stamped. The research is far >from complete.

Andrew Kapochunas
kapochunasa@dnb.com


Rabbi Moshe Chaim Mirvish of Cape Town Research Project #lithuania

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

I am researching the Rabbi Moshe Chaim Mirvish (RaMaCh) and would like any
assistance on the following:

1 The stetl of Besagola
2 The yeshivas of Tels and Slobodka >from the years 1880-1900
3 Rabbi Eliezer Gordon of Telz

Thanks


Richard Newman
Cape Town South Africa
genserch@global.co.za


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rabbi Moshe Chaim Mirvish of Cape Town Research Project #lithuania

Richard Newman <genserch@...>
 

I am researching the Rabbi Moshe Chaim Mirvish (RaMaCh) and would like any
assistance on the following:

1 The stetl of Besagola
2 The yeshivas of Tels and Slobodka >from the years 1880-1900
3 Rabbi Eliezer Gordon of Telz

Thanks


Richard Newman
Cape Town South Africa
genserch@global.co.za


Re: Training session for ALD in Salt Lake City #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Cynthia Spikell <proprius@alltel.net> writes:

..... I hope at the IAJGS conference there will be a class on using the ALD
....


We have a very good introductory page on "How the All Lithuania" Database was created at:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/all.htm>

and clicking on the "Search the ALD" link will bring you to instructions on
searching either by Daitch-Mokotoff soundex, exact spelling, or global text
search.

An infofile is in the works that will explain each process more fully, and my presentation at the Salt Lake City conference will be on the links between the ALD and the Shtetls of Lithuania, and how to use both sites.

However, if there is enough demand, and we can request space >from the IAJGS conference organizers for a "how to" session. If you have any interest in such a session, please respond privately to <Litvaks@aol.com> and we will do our best to try to accommodate you.

Davida Noyek Handler
President, LitvakSIG

Researching: NOICK/NOIECK/NOIK/NOIKAS/NOJIKAS/NOY/NOYEK/NOYK

From: BAZILIONAI, KRAZIAI, KREKENAVA, LUOKE, RIETAVAS, SIAULIAI, SKAUDVILE, TELSIAI, TRYSKIAI, UZVENTIS, VARNIAI - NW LITHUANIA
and worldwide.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Training session for ALD in Salt Lake City #lithuania

Litvaks@...
 

Cynthia Spikell <proprius@alltel.net> writes:

..... I hope at the IAJGS conference there will be a class on using the ALD
....


We have a very good introductory page on "How the All Lithuania" Database was created at:

<http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/all.htm>

and clicking on the "Search the ALD" link will bring you to instructions on
searching either by Daitch-Mokotoff soundex, exact spelling, or global text
search.

An infofile is in the works that will explain each process more fully, and my presentation at the Salt Lake City conference will be on the links between the ALD and the Shtetls of Lithuania, and how to use both sites.

However, if there is enough demand, and we can request space >from the IAJGS conference organizers for a "how to" session. If you have any interest in such a session, please respond privately to <Litvaks@aol.com> and we will do our best to try to accommodate you.

Davida Noyek Handler
President, LitvakSIG

Researching: NOICK/NOIECK/NOIK/NOIKAS/NOJIKAS/NOY/NOYEK/NOYK

From: BAZILIONAI, KRAZIAI, KREKENAVA, LUOKE, RIETAVAS, SIAULIAI, SKAUDVILE, TELSIAI, TRYSKIAI, UZVENTIS, VARNIAI - NW LITHUANIA
and worldwide.


Session at IAJGS Conference? #lithuania

Cyndy and Vic <proprius@...>
 

I would like to have a session on using the All Lithuania Database
included at the IAJGS Conference at Salt Lake City.

Thank you,
Cynthia Spikell
Searching: FINKELSTEIN/GARFINKLE Jurbarkas; KANGESSER Skuodas;SHAN(E)DLING
Skuodas; BLOCK Sudargas; CHISLINGER / TZIZLINGER Skuodas; FRANK Libau?


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Session at IAJGS Conference? #lithuania

Cyndy and Vic <proprius@...>
 

I would like to have a session on using the All Lithuania Database
included at the IAJGS Conference at Salt Lake City.

Thank you,
Cynthia Spikell
Searching: FINKELSTEIN/GARFINKLE Jurbarkas; KANGESSER Skuodas;SHAN(E)DLING
Skuodas; BLOCK Sudargas; CHISLINGER / TZIZLINGER Skuodas; FRANK Libau?


Re: Hamburg Lists #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I preface my remarks by saying this is NOT a criticism of the Hamburg
Lists site, and the immense efforts that have gone into it. I am just
wondering how to approach the information give, and to point up some
(possible) bugs in the site. I am sure that eventually everything will
be fixed.
Is it just me, or are the Hamburg Lists village names as given in
"search for passengers >from same village" very strange??? Is Jaraslar
really Jaroslav? Where/what is Kros in Russia (Russland)?
If the village names are coming up garbled (due to transcribing
errors), then even if our family names ARE listed, there is a chance we
may never be able to find them, even after utilizing the wildcard
characters. It is hard enough to figure out the spellings when the
records are right in front of us, but to have to guess at what someone
else is guessing at (and in a different language), might be a really big
problem.
Among the ones I did recognize were Grodno, Minsk, Vilna.
Is it possible that the people working on transcribing the lists are
just not familiar with the place names or the handwriting?
I worked with the Direct/Indirect microfilms of the Hamburg Lists at
Los Angeles FHL several years ago and -- after awhile -- got the hang of
the variant handwritings. Of course, I was already familiar with the
place names I was looking for, and recognized those without much
trouble, and made lists of the variant spellings as I went along.
I wish there were a way just to plug in the village/city, e.g. Mogilev
(in any of its variant spellings of Mohilyew, Mogilew, etc. etc.) and
see what pops up.
Working with the information was very interesting, but also very
frustrating. I am waiting anxiously for the next installment of records
to be posted.
Don't be put off by the long time it takes to get any information. It
took me several tries each day over several days just to get the search
button to provide any information. Tonight it worked very well. Just
keep trying at different times of day/night.
Have fun.
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv, Israel
dardasht@barak-online.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hamburg Lists #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Dear Genners:
I preface my remarks by saying this is NOT a criticism of the Hamburg
Lists site, and the immense efforts that have gone into it. I am just
wondering how to approach the information give, and to point up some
(possible) bugs in the site. I am sure that eventually everything will
be fixed.
Is it just me, or are the Hamburg Lists village names as given in
"search for passengers >from same village" very strange??? Is Jaraslar
really Jaroslav? Where/what is Kros in Russia (Russland)?
If the village names are coming up garbled (due to transcribing
errors), then even if our family names ARE listed, there is a chance we
may never be able to find them, even after utilizing the wildcard
characters. It is hard enough to figure out the spellings when the
records are right in front of us, but to have to guess at what someone
else is guessing at (and in a different language), might be a really big
problem.
Among the ones I did recognize were Grodno, Minsk, Vilna.
Is it possible that the people working on transcribing the lists are
just not familiar with the place names or the handwriting?
I worked with the Direct/Indirect microfilms of the Hamburg Lists at
Los Angeles FHL several years ago and -- after awhile -- got the hang of
the variant handwritings. Of course, I was already familiar with the
place names I was looking for, and recognized those without much
trouble, and made lists of the variant spellings as I went along.
I wish there were a way just to plug in the village/city, e.g. Mogilev
(in any of its variant spellings of Mohilyew, Mogilew, etc. etc.) and
see what pops up.
Working with the information was very interesting, but also very
frustrating. I am waiting anxiously for the next installment of records
to be posted.
Don't be put off by the long time it takes to get any information. It
took me several tries each day over several days just to get the search
button to provide any information. Tonight it worked very well. Just
keep trying at different times of day/night.
Have fun.
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv, Israel
dardasht@barak-online.net


Re: Ships Leaving from Leizbow, England #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

My grandmother said she sailed with her family to Ellis Island from
Leizbow,England. I am not sure of the spelling. Is anyone familiar
with what port that might be?

Rob Levin
How about Libau (Liepaja in Latvian)? It's on the Baltic coast west of
Riga. My grandmother came through there on her way >from Ukraine in 1926.
Her papers show that she crossed the USSR-Latvia border at Sebeis (Sebez)
and took a ship >from "Riga, Liepaja" to Southampton and then Quebec. The
Canadian inspection stamp says Port of Riga, so Libau was apparently this
port.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
------------
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Tavrig)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


East Coast BECKERMANS #general

HF <reks@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of a
Maurice Beckerman bn 1919 +/- as well as a
Benjamin Beckerman bn 1916 +/-

Their mother's name was Helen and these brothers also had a sister.

Maurice lived in Norwalk Conn. in the 1960's.

Benjamin may have died in the early 1980's.

Thanks for any help/leads


Bob Hennes
reks@win.bright.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Ships Leaving from Leizbow, England #general

Alan Shuchat <ashuchat@...>
 

My grandmother said she sailed with her family to Ellis Island from
Leizbow,England. I am not sure of the spelling. Is anyone familiar
with what port that might be?

Rob Levin
How about Libau (Liepaja in Latvian)? It's on the Baltic coast west of
Riga. My grandmother came through there on her way >from Ukraine in 1926.
Her papers show that she crossed the USSR-Latvia border at Sebeis (Sebez)
and took a ship >from "Riga, Liepaja" to Southampton and then Quebec. The
Canadian inspection stamp says Port of Riga, so Libau was apparently this
port.

Alan Shuchat
ashuchat@wellesley.edu
Newton Mass.
------------
Researching:
SHUCHAT (Talnoye, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Tavrig)
VINOKUR (Talnoye)
KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
SILVERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets)
BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolski)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen East Coast BECKERMANS #general

HF <reks@...>
 

Looking for any descendants of a
Maurice Beckerman bn 1919 +/- as well as a
Benjamin Beckerman bn 1916 +/-

Their mother's name was Helen and these brothers also had a sister.

Maurice lived in Norwalk Conn. in the 1960's.

Benjamin may have died in the early 1980's.

Thanks for any help/leads


Bob Hennes
reks@win.bright.net


DEFELE/DAEFELE/SINN family #general

Genealicej@...
 

I am looking for the DEFELE or DAEFELE family >from Kochendorf, now Bad
Friedrichshall, Baden Wuerttemberg, Germany.

Abraham Baer DAEFELE/DEFELE born 1787 Kochendorf died 1874 married Jette
SINN of Stein born 1801 and died 2 May 1864. Their daughter Sara 1838-1913
married Aron HERZ 1839-1906.

Alice Josephs
UK
My own websites, each with a full family tree, are at <AHREF="http://members.tripod.co.uk/AliceJosephs/">http://members.tripod.co
.uk/AliceJosephs/</A><AHREF="http://index.HTM">index.HTM</A><AHREF="http://
www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/home.htm">http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/ho
me.htm</A><AHREF="http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm">
http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm</A>

<<<snip>>>to allowable 6 lines


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DEFELE/DAEFELE/SINN family #general

Genealicej@...
 

I am looking for the DEFELE or DAEFELE family >from Kochendorf, now Bad
Friedrichshall, Baden Wuerttemberg, Germany.

Abraham Baer DAEFELE/DEFELE born 1787 Kochendorf died 1874 married Jette
SINN of Stein born 1801 and died 2 May 1864. Their daughter Sara 1838-1913
married Aron HERZ 1839-1906.

Alice Josephs
UK
My own websites, each with a full family tree, are at <AHREF="http://members.tripod.co.uk/AliceJosephs/">http://members.tripod.co
.uk/AliceJosephs/</A><AHREF="http://index.HTM">index.HTM</A><AHREF="http://
www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/home.htm">http://www.gbnf.com/genealog2/herz/ho
me.htm</A><AHREF="http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm">
http://www.dhc.net/~design/gedcom/josephs.htm</A>

<<<snip>>>to allowable 6 lines


Re: Message on Jewish Gen 3/20 #general

Rosa3035@...
 

In response to the many replies received re my posting regarding finding a
copy of the Death Certificate of a cousin, several requested information
about the CSRA Inc. - Nationwide Death Index - XXI

I believe that I used the services of
<<<snip>>>

To further complicate my search I have to write that my cousins name was
"Sig Smith". He must have died probably somewhere other than where
he last lived, since there is no record in the County Registrars Office in
the county where he last lived. Lynbrook, L.I., Nassau county.
No knowledge of cemetery or mortician.
His birth date was April 8, 1903. He died May 19, 1990.
I have a copy of his SS-5, application for Social Security, dated December
2, 1936.
Have been unable to find Obit anywhere in state.
His sons names were William and Matthew.
NY State Department of Vital Records is no longer accepting mail-in
requests for copies of Vital Records.

I have tried Family Tree Maker, Anybirthday.com, RootsWeb.com, and I have
no idea of whether I can go further or not.

Once again many, many THANKS to all the very generous JGers.

NATHAN GREENBERG
San Diego, CA


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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Message on Jewish Gen 3/20 #general

Rosa3035@...
 

In response to the many replies received re my posting regarding finding a
copy of the Death Certificate of a cousin, several requested information
about the CSRA Inc. - Nationwide Death Index - XXI

I believe that I used the services of
<<<snip>>>

To further complicate my search I have to write that my cousins name was
"Sig Smith". He must have died probably somewhere other than where
he last lived, since there is no record in the County Registrars Office in
the county where he last lived. Lynbrook, L.I., Nassau county.
No knowledge of cemetery or mortician.
His birth date was April 8, 1903. He died May 19, 1990.
I have a copy of his SS-5, application for Social Security, dated December
2, 1936.
Have been unable to find Obit anywhere in state.
His sons names were William and Matthew.
NY State Department of Vital Records is no longer accepting mail-in
requests for copies of Vital Records.

I have tried Family Tree Maker, Anybirthday.com, RootsWeb.com, and I have
no idea of whether I can go further or not.

Once again many, many THANKS to all the very generous JGers.

NATHAN GREENBERG
San Diego, CA


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Re: SALOSHIN #general

Gary Goldberg <XGaryG@...>
 

In article <20000318.085244.-195959.0.drothman1@juno.com>, David Rothman
<drothman1@juno.com> wrote:

Anybody ever seen people with name SALOSHIN?
Yes, but I don't think they're Jewish. I know the daughter, who's a
well-known broadcaster in the Boston area who goes by another name on the
air and is now married (I'm not sure if she uses his name at all). They're
from the Bethesda, Maryland, area.
I just checked the phone book and what is probably her father is listed
as "Saloschin" (SIC)

(Remove "X" >from address to reply)


Rumania Rumania #general

rokoco1@...
 

I am unfamiliar with the newsletter about RUMANIA RUMANIA, but If you wish to
'hear' the song, just log on to the Shtetlinks - Dolj County site

http:www.jewishgen.org/shtetlinks/dolj/Dolj.html

Scroll down to "Sights and Sounds of Romania" and follow instructions and
enjoy.

Bobbi Cohen
Dolj County Coordinator