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Re: George NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

I have added Celia Male's name to the JewishGen Wall of Honor, in
appreciation for her generous time and efforts re: my NEUMANN and KOLIN
of Vienna queries. Thank you again, Celia! Sincerely, Lisa THALER
(Chicago, IL, US) Researching...artist Sacha KOLIN (1911-1981)

On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Celia Male wrote:
Lisa Thaler has asked us about George NEUMANN of Vienna,
...
Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: George NEUMANN of Vienna m. Vera of textile & scarf empire #austria-czech

Lisa Thaler <lisathaler@...>
 

I have added Celia Male's name to the JewishGen Wall of Honor, in
appreciation for her generous time and efforts re: my NEUMANN and KOLIN
of Vienna queries. Thank you again, Celia! Sincerely, Lisa THALER
(Chicago, IL, US) Researching...artist Sacha KOLIN (1911-1981)

On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Celia Male wrote:
Lisa Thaler has asked us about George NEUMANN of Vienna,
...
Celia Male [U.K.]

Anyone from Argentina #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Is there anyone >from Argentina ?
I am trying to trace my late grandmother's sister descendants.
I have tryed through Reunir - but, after more than half a year I did
not get any result.
If anyone >from there - or anyone who can help pls. e-mail me privately.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel

Romania SIG #Romania Anyone from Argentina #romania

Sorin Goldenberg <soring0412@...>
 

Is there anyone >from Argentina ?
I am trying to trace my late grandmother's sister descendants.
I have tryed through Reunir - but, after more than half a year I did
not get any result.
If anyone >from there - or anyone who can help pls. e-mail me privately.

Regards,

Sorin Goldenberg
Israel

Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

Stephen Denker
 

Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going to
the above address.

He was listed in the London 1901 census at 14 Underwood St. living with his
sister, her husband, her child and 2 other boarders. I want to find out who
was he going to on Morgan St.

Thanks

Elayne Denker
Brookline, MA USA
Researching BILLMAN, DENKER, GINSBERG(various spellings) KRUGER, KRIEGER
(various spellings) all migrating through UK

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Seeking residents located by address in London about 1900 #unitedkingdom

Stephen Denker
 

Are there any records such as London city directories where I can search
residents by street address for the years 1895-1905? I'm especially
interested in who lived at 45 Morgan St. in 1899. My grandfather, upon
arrival at the Poor Jew's Temporary Shelter in London, said he was going to
the above address.

He was listed in the London 1901 census at 14 Underwood St. living with his
sister, her husband, her child and 2 other boarders. I want to find out who
was he going to on Morgan St.

Thanks

Elayne Denker
Brookline, MA USA
Researching BILLMAN, DENKER, GINSBERG(various spellings) KRUGER, KRIEGER
(various spellings) all migrating through UK

Re: Wiggery-pokery! #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

In a message dated 22/07/2006, jrw@... writes:
western Jews ... "lost" or rather chose to "drop" the use of Yiddish in
general earlier than in the east -- in large part because of what someone
correctly identified as their
snobbish "disdain" for what they perceived as the language of the
Jewish "great unwashed."

There was certainly a great deal of disdain for Yiddish among western Jews -
the headmaster of the very large Jews' Free School in the East End of London
would not allow Yiddish to be spoken. His mission was to anglicise the
immigrants and their children. Maybe snobbery was part of it. But my parents,
brought up in Yiddish-speaking homes in the East End, only spoke English to us
apart >from the odd Yiddish word and phrase. They did not dislike Yiddish, and
would speak it to others of their generation. I'm sure they spoke English
because we lived in a non-Jewish neighbourhood and almost all their daily
social intercourse was with non-Jews.

Harold Pollins
Oxford

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Wiggery-pokery! #general

HPOLLINS@...
 

In a message dated 22/07/2006, jrw@... writes:
western Jews ... "lost" or rather chose to "drop" the use of Yiddish in
general earlier than in the east -- in large part because of what someone
correctly identified as their
snobbish "disdain" for what they perceived as the language of the
Jewish "great unwashed."

There was certainly a great deal of disdain for Yiddish among western Jews -
the headmaster of the very large Jews' Free School in the East End of London
would not allow Yiddish to be spoken. His mission was to anglicise the
immigrants and their children. Maybe snobbery was part of it. But my parents,
brought up in Yiddish-speaking homes in the East End, only spoke English to us
apart >from the odd Yiddish word and phrase. They did not dislike Yiddish, and
would speak it to others of their generation. I'm sure they spoke English
because we lived in a non-Jewish neighbourhood and almost all their daily
social intercourse was with non-Jews.

Harold Pollins
Oxford

Wiggery-pokery! #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Hi Judith,

I saw your posting that said "western Jews
absorbed European culture much earlier than east European Jews...they "lost"
or rather chose to
"drop" the use of Yiddish in general earlier than in the east ".

Do you think, perhaps, that Jews in German-speaking countries spoke German,
as it developed around them, while Jews who moved East kept speaking the
'German' that they had spoken for centruies, with an admixture of the
Russian/Polish/whatever they heard around them? This seems reasonable to
me, especially since all the places where Yiddish was king (except NYC) were
among non-German Christians. East Prussia and other Prussian states where
people spoke Yiddish were governed by German-speakers (in the 19th century)
but were inhabited mostly by ethnic Poles; Russia, and the rest of the
Slavic states, etc. had their own languages. But I am not a historian, by
any means, so I present this theory to be knocked down.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wiggery-pokery! #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Hi Judith,

I saw your posting that said "western Jews
absorbed European culture much earlier than east European Jews...they "lost"
or rather chose to
"drop" the use of Yiddish in general earlier than in the east ".

Do you think, perhaps, that Jews in German-speaking countries spoke German,
as it developed around them, while Jews who moved East kept speaking the
'German' that they had spoken for centruies, with an admixture of the
Russian/Polish/whatever they heard around them? This seems reasonable to
me, especially since all the places where Yiddish was king (except NYC) were
among non-German Christians. East Prussia and other Prussian states where
people spoke Yiddish were governed by German-speakers (in the 19th century)
but were inhabited mostly by ethnic Poles; Russia, and the rest of the
Slavic states, etc. had their own languages. But I am not a historian, by
any means, so I present this theory to be knocked down.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ

Intestacy lawyers/searchers {was: Fake email} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In 2001, I was sitting in the the archives in Vienna when I noticed
two Hungarian reseachers working for a week on the Jewish records.
They were not at all communicative, but one day they asked me what I
was researching. I mentioned, amongst others, my gtgt grandfather
Leopold WOTTITZ >from Pressburg [born ca 1810], whose son Gustav [my
gtgrandfather] came to Vienna.

To my utter amazement they replied "that is why we are here". They
refused to tell me more; it took me some time to find out that they
had been hired by intestacy lawyers in the USA to investigate the
genealogy of a man [descendant of Leopold] who had died in Chicago
after fleeing >from Vienna - a third cousin of my mother.

As usual I inherited nothing {Wir sind schlechte Erber, was my
grandmother's [nee Ida WOTTITZ] dictum - "we are bad inheritors"} -
but I did eventually get a huge branch of my WOTTITZ tree sorted out
and could identify my great-grandfather's siblings in a photograph
that we rescued >from Vienna which was probably taken in Pressburg in
the 1860s. The heirs were peeved I had these photographs - which are
very precious to me.

There are many people beavering away in the archives [Vienna, Prague
etc] looking for this sort of thing. They look through company
records, wills or ground books to see if there is anything worth
following up. The genealogical work then commences to look for
potential heirs.

There are many ways to make a living - and this is one of them.
It is not illegal, but some may find it distasteful especially if the
researchers take a large cut >from a holocaust victim's assets.

Celia Male [U.K.]

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Intestacy lawyers/searchers {was: Fake email} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

In 2001, I was sitting in the the archives in Vienna when I noticed
two Hungarian reseachers working for a week on the Jewish records.
They were not at all communicative, but one day they asked me what I
was researching. I mentioned, amongst others, my gtgt grandfather
Leopold WOTTITZ >from Pressburg [born ca 1810], whose son Gustav [my
gtgrandfather] came to Vienna.

To my utter amazement they replied "that is why we are here". They
refused to tell me more; it took me some time to find out that they
had been hired by intestacy lawyers in the USA to investigate the
genealogy of a man [descendant of Leopold] who had died in Chicago
after fleeing >from Vienna - a third cousin of my mother.

As usual I inherited nothing {Wir sind schlechte Erber, was my
grandmother's [nee Ida WOTTITZ] dictum - "we are bad inheritors"} -
but I did eventually get a huge branch of my WOTTITZ tree sorted out
and could identify my great-grandfather's siblings in a photograph
that we rescued >from Vienna which was probably taken in Pressburg in
the 1860s. The heirs were peeved I had these photographs - which are
very precious to me.

There are many people beavering away in the archives [Vienna, Prague
etc] looking for this sort of thing. They look through company
records, wills or ground books to see if there is anything worth
following up. The genealogical work then commences to look for
potential heirs.

There are many ways to make a living - and this is one of them.
It is not illegal, but some may find it distasteful especially if the
researchers take a large cut >from a holocaust victim's assets.

Celia Male [U.K.]

relationship puzzle - half brothers #general

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

A puzzle. My great-great-grandmother in Lithuania married twice and had
children by both husbands. My great-grandfather, therefore, had a
half-brother and a half-sister (same mother but different father). So were
there children half-cousins? And am I a half-third cousin of their
descendants?

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland

KAPLAN,FAYN,FEIN,FINE,BARSD,GRADMAN
- Ariogala, Josvainiai, Kedainiai, Krakes, Seta, Veliuona, Grinkiskis, Lithuania
FELMAN,MIL(L)ER,ROSENBLOOM - Kamenets-Podolsk, Shatava, Balyn, Ukraine
TROPP,STORCH - Kolbuszowa, Cmolas,Galicia
LINDERMAN,SCHLACKMAN -Plock,Poland

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen relationship puzzle - half brothers #general

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

A puzzle. My great-great-grandmother in Lithuania married twice and had
children by both husbands. My great-grandfather, therefore, had a
half-brother and a half-sister (same mother but different father). So were
there children half-cousins? And am I a half-third cousin of their
descendants?

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland

KAPLAN,FAYN,FEIN,FINE,BARSD,GRADMAN
- Ariogala, Josvainiai, Kedainiai, Krakes, Seta, Veliuona, Grinkiskis, Lithuania
FELMAN,MIL(L)ER,ROSENBLOOM - Kamenets-Podolsk, Shatava, Balyn, Ukraine
TROPP,STORCH - Kolbuszowa, Cmolas,Galicia
LINDERMAN,SCHLACKMAN -Plock,Poland

Re: Census Records #france

laurphil@...
 

The oldest censuses kept in France date of the end of the 18th Century.
Generally, nominative censuses have been done with regularity since 1836
every 5 years, excepted during the wars (for instance, the census of 1871
has been done in 1872).
They are kept in the "Archives Départementales" and often available on
microfilms.

Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)

Subject: Re: Census Records
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@...>
What about the rest of France? And where and how can they be accessed?
Jackye Sullins
San Diego

French SIG #France Re: Census Records #france

laurphil@...
 

The oldest censuses kept in France date of the end of the 18th Century.
Generally, nominative censuses have been done with regularity since 1836
every 5 years, excepted during the wars (for instance, the census of 1871
has been done in 1872).
They are kept in the "Archives Départementales" and often available on
microfilms.

Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)

Subject: Re: Census Records
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@...>
What about the rest of France? And where and how can they be accessed?
Jackye Sullins
San Diego

Re: latvia digest: #latvia

feigl@...
 

I haven?t been receiving information this last two days.
I would like to continue receiving it.
thanks
Fanny Kazarez

Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: #latvia

feigl@...
 

I haven?t been receiving information this last two days.
I would like to continue receiving it.
thanks
Fanny Kazarez

New Website with Interesting Content for BialyGenners #poland

Bialystoker
 

I have become aware of a new website that may be of interest
to you. It is http://www.bagnowka.com/. Bagnowka is a
district of Bialystok, which contains the Wschodnia Street
Cemetery. See
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/BialCem.htm and
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/BialCemWall.htm
for information about this Cemetery.

Here are the webpages to visit.

Photo Gallery http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=atoz
Jewish Cemeteries http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=cm&g=2
WW2 Information http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=ww
Wooden Synagogues
http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=cm&g=show&idg=346

I am providing information about this website as a public
service. This posting does not imply any opinion or
endorsement about the tour services that are part of this
website. If you are looking for a tourguide in Bialystok and
its environs, the best recommendations will come >from your
fellow BialyGenners.

Mark Halpern
BialyGen Coordinator

BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland New Website with Interesting Content for BialyGenners #poland

Bialystoker
 

I have become aware of a new website that may be of interest
to you. It is http://www.bagnowka.com/. Bagnowka is a
district of Bialystok, which contains the Wschodnia Street
Cemetery. See
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/BialCem.htm and
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/BialCemWall.htm
for information about this Cemetery.

Here are the webpages to visit.

Photo Gallery http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=atoz
Jewish Cemeteries http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=cm&g=2
WW2 Information http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=ww
Wooden Synagogues
http://www.bagnowka.com/?m=cm&g=show&idg=346

I am providing information about this website as a public
service. This posting does not imply any opinion or
endorsement about the tour services that are part of this
website. If you are looking for a tourguide in Bialystok and
its environs, the best recommendations will come >from your
fellow BialyGenners.

Mark Halpern
BialyGen Coordinator