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Re: B/D/M records from Michalovce (Nagy Mihaly) #hungary

Gyorgy Ujlaki <ujlaki_gyorgy@...>
 

From: Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
Reply-To: Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
CC: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: Re: B/D/M records >from Michalovce (Nagy Mihaly)
Date: 14 Apr 2000 10:52:25 -0400

As someone on this list (Linda Cohen?) pointed out, it is possible
that jewish records are mixed in with church records. As I understand
it depending upon the size of the town, or how organized they were,
jews may not have had their own registrar. So birth registrations may
have been done by the local parish.
Dear Chaim,

Have you ever actually seen a parish birth registration with Jewish names in
it? I mean Jews, and not baptized Jews? Well, I have never seen it, and
frankly, I can not imagine the reason why a priest or minister would record
a Jews, or anybody outside his fold.

I remember, that there was a dicussion on this topic before, but there was
no general agreement on the point. If anyone has new arguments or facts to
add, I am quite curious to learn.

Gyuri
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Laszlo (Laub) Fulop Elek #hungary

Gyorgy Ujlaki <ujlaki_gyorgy@...>
 

From: "hatam dedi" <hatam@...>
Reply-To: "hatam dedi" <hatam@...>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: New researcher
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:16:32 +0300

B. Laszlo (family name) Fulop Elek (first name) (1869-1937)- a very famous
painter. Was born in Budapest and later lived in London. His original
family name was Laub.
According to Bela Kempelen (MZSCA vol.2. p.147), Fulop Laszlo died on
Nov.22, 1937, was one of the greatest Hungarian portrait painters. He
changed his family name (Laub) to Laszlo in 1891. He was born in Budapest,
lived in Munnich and Paris. At the young age one of his paintings was
exhibited at Budapest Art Gallery (Mucsarnok).

He lived in London, he received a British citizenship after marrying an
Irish woman. He painted portraits of European monarchs.

His father was Adolf Laub, brother Marcell Laszlo. Adolf had had brothers:
Ignac, Jakab, Mor and Salamon Laub. Mor's children were: Gyula, Adolf,
Bela, Lajos, Ferenc, Laszlo and Ilona (married Szollosi). Laszlo Adolf, dr.
was knighted.

Gyuri (Hong Kong)
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: B/D/M records from Michalovce (Nagy Mihaly) #hungary

Gyorgy Ujlaki <ujlaki_gyorgy@...>
 

From: Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
Reply-To: Chaim Frenkel <chaimf@...>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
CC: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: Re: B/D/M records >from Michalovce (Nagy Mihaly)
Date: 14 Apr 2000 10:52:25 -0400

As someone on this list (Linda Cohen?) pointed out, it is possible
that jewish records are mixed in with church records. As I understand
it depending upon the size of the town, or how organized they were,
jews may not have had their own registrar. So birth registrations may
have been done by the local parish.
Dear Chaim,

Have you ever actually seen a parish birth registration with Jewish names in
it? I mean Jews, and not baptized Jews? Well, I have never seen it, and
frankly, I can not imagine the reason why a priest or minister would record
a Jews, or anybody outside his fold.

I remember, that there was a dicussion on this topic before, but there was
no general agreement on the point. If anyone has new arguments or facts to
add, I am quite curious to learn.

Gyuri
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Laszlo (Laub) Fulop Elek #hungary

Gyorgy Ujlaki <ujlaki_gyorgy@...>
 

From: "hatam dedi" <hatam@...>
Reply-To: "hatam dedi" <hatam@...>
To: "Hungarian SIG" <h-sig@...>
Subject: New researcher
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:16:32 +0300

B. Laszlo (family name) Fulop Elek (first name) (1869-1937)- a very famous
painter. Was born in Budapest and later lived in London. His original
family name was Laub.
According to Bela Kempelen (MZSCA vol.2. p.147), Fulop Laszlo died on
Nov.22, 1937, was one of the greatest Hungarian portrait painters. He
changed his family name (Laub) to Laszlo in 1891. He was born in Budapest,
lived in Munnich and Paris. At the young age one of his paintings was
exhibited at Budapest Art Gallery (Mucsarnok).

He lived in London, he received a British citizenship after marrying an
Irish woman. He painted portraits of European monarchs.

His father was Adolf Laub, brother Marcell Laszlo. Adolf had had brothers:
Ignac, Jakab, Mor and Salamon Laub. Mor's children were: Gyula, Adolf,
Bela, Lajos, Ferenc, Laszlo and Ilona (married Szollosi). Laszlo Adolf, dr.
was knighted.

Gyuri (Hong Kong)
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FYI Jerusalem Post (Israel), Obituaries, 1999 #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

Jerusalem Post (Israel), Obituaries, 1999

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4501.htm

Free Until
4/22/00

Description:
Founded as a Jewish English-language newspaper in 1932, the Jerusalem Post is
one of the key sources of news in the Holy City. This database is a
collection of some obituaries >from the newspaper in 1999. Information
provided often includes birth date and location, occupation, military
service, surviving family members, and other biographical facts. Compiled by
the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company in connection with the
newspaper, it contains nearly 11,800 records and over 41,600 names.

Extended Description:
(c) 1990-2000 Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. All Rights
Reserved. Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. Obituaries >from the
Jerusalem Post, 1999. Orem, UT: Ancestry Inc., 2000.


Hungary SIG #Hungary FYI Jerusalem Post (Israel), Obituaries, 1999 #hungary

CASHEL3776@...
 

Jerusalem Post (Israel), Obituaries, 1999

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4501.htm

Free Until
4/22/00

Description:
Founded as a Jewish English-language newspaper in 1932, the Jerusalem Post is
one of the key sources of news in the Holy City. This database is a
collection of some obituaries >from the newspaper in 1999. Information
provided often includes birth date and location, occupation, military
service, surviving family members, and other biographical facts. Compiled by
the Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company in connection with the
newspaper, it contains nearly 11,800 records and over 41,600 names.

Extended Description:
(c) 1990-2000 Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. All Rights
Reserved. Bell and Howell Information and Learning Company. Obituaries >from the
Jerusalem Post, 1999. Orem, UT: Ancestry Inc., 2000.


Kosice #hungary

Rakoff125
 

For those interested in this city, go to http://www.kosice.sk it is the
home page which has many links for the city. Of particular interest will be
the cultural links as they connect up to many pictures of this very beautiful
city. I was able to download a lot of pictures, including one on the
synagogue, and make an album as a gift for my mom, who always wanted to see
her mother's birthplace.

This home page, under what's new, will also link you to the Jewish cemetary
lists. It's a very interesting and well done site that keeps adding things so
I check it regularly.

Chag Samaech to all
Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kosice #hungary

Rakoff125
 

For those interested in this city, go to http://www.kosice.sk it is the
home page which has many links for the city. Of particular interest will be
the cultural links as they connect up to many pictures of this very beautiful
city. I was able to download a lot of pictures, including one on the
synagogue, and make an album as a gift for my mom, who always wanted to see
her mother's birthplace.

This home page, under what's new, will also link you to the Jewish cemetary
lists. It's a very interesting and well done site that keeps adding things so
I check it regularly.

Chag Samaech to all
Linda Rakoff
Newton, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Brigade #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

I saw this film when it showed in February at the Palm Springs
International Film Festival and commend it to anyone who has an interest in
the history of our times, although I saw precious little in the movie that
is pertinent to genealogical research.
A large part of The Tenth Prayer, my still unpublished new novel, deals
with aspects of the Jewish Brigade in Italy, including the discovery of an
Italian town, Sannicandro, that converted itself to Judaism and was not
recognized as Jewish by the rabbinate. The Jews of Sannicandro eventually
migrated to Israel, where they were given a village of their own. You can
find a short description of this testing of halacha in the Jewish
Encyclopedia.
My book also deals with the wholesale, planned, desertion by members of the
brigade so they could set up make-believe British military formations that
were actively engaged in illegal immigration of Jews to what was then
called Palestine. While this aspect is mentioned in the movie, it is toned
down.
The film does mention, again toned down, the formation by members of the
brigade of Din, the organization of avengers that pursued German war
criminals after the war. That aspect is better covered in my first novel,
Comrades, Avenge Us, which was published in 1996.
Finally, what I found most shocking was that the British, eager to get the
Jews away >from Italian ports, shipped the entire brigade to Holland in
sealed boxcars. I need not remind anyone what it must have been like for
Jews to be riding around all over Germany in sealed boxcars in 1946!

craspler@... wrote:

On April 26th at 9:00 PM (check local listings) "In Our Own Hands: The
Hidden Story of the Jewish Brigade in WWII" will air throughout the U.S.
on PBS stations. I have no commercial interest in this project.


Re: Jewish Brigade #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

I saw this film when it showed in February at the Palm Springs
International Film Festival and commend it to anyone who has an interest in
the history of our times, although I saw precious little in the movie that
is pertinent to genealogical research.
A large part of The Tenth Prayer, my still unpublished new novel, deals
with aspects of the Jewish Brigade in Italy, including the discovery of an
Italian town, Sannicandro, that converted itself to Judaism and was not
recognized as Jewish by the rabbinate. The Jews of Sannicandro eventually
migrated to Israel, where they were given a village of their own. You can
find a short description of this testing of halacha in the Jewish
Encyclopedia.
My book also deals with the wholesale, planned, desertion by members of the
brigade so they could set up make-believe British military formations that
were actively engaged in illegal immigration of Jews to what was then
called Palestine. While this aspect is mentioned in the movie, it is toned
down.
The film does mention, again toned down, the formation by members of the
brigade of Din, the organization of avengers that pursued German war
criminals after the war. That aspect is better covered in my first novel,
Comrades, Avenge Us, which was published in 1996.
Finally, what I found most shocking was that the British, eager to get the
Jews away >from Italian ports, shipped the entire brigade to Holland in
sealed boxcars. I need not remind anyone what it must have been like for
Jews to be riding around all over Germany in sealed boxcars in 1946!

craspler@... wrote:

On April 26th at 9:00 PM (check local listings) "In Our Own Hands: The
Hidden Story of the Jewish Brigade in WWII" will air throughout the U.S.
on PBS stations. I have no commercial interest in this project.


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Virus alert against Jewish organizations and Jews in general #yizkorbooks

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

I received this today and don't know if it is true or not- it is NOT listed
on the internet site for virus hoaxes so it might be true.

Jan Meisels Allen

OUR PEOPLE


This morning I picked up a very dangerous virus-OBVIOUSLY TARGETED AT US
JEWS AND JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS-it came in on an e-mail message that
started with the word erez.

The virus is PrettyParkEze---be very careful--it infected more than just
the file it came in on--I did not think much of it because one of the
kibbutzim uses eretz in their e-mail address


Stefanie Seltzer
Chairperson
Federation of Jewish Child Survivors of the Holocaust


Virus alert against Jewish organizations and Jews in general #yizkorbooks

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

I received this today and don't know if it is true or not- it is NOT listed
on the internet site for virus hoaxes so it might be true.

Jan Meisels Allen

OUR PEOPLE


This morning I picked up a very dangerous virus-OBVIOUSLY TARGETED AT US
JEWS AND JEWISH ORGANIZATIONS-it came in on an e-mail message that
started with the word erez.

The virus is PrettyParkEze---be very careful--it infected more than just
the file it came in on--I did not think much of it because one of the
kibbutzim uses eretz in their e-mail address


Stefanie Seltzer
Chairperson
Federation of Jewish Child Survivors of the Holocaust


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre participation of Chalres Aaron Konisky in vandeville dance hall #yiddish

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...>
 

Dear Research Group Members

Family tradition has it that my grandfather Charles Aaron Konisky was
engaged in Yiddish vaudeville in New York in about 1902. I am seeking
any documentation of his participation as a vaudeville entertainer (song
and dance). How do I get statred?

He is not listed in the Yiddish theater lexicon, that 6-volume work on
Yiddish actors.

Jordan Konisky
Houston, Texas


Researching: KONISKY (LONDON, RUSSIAN POLAND); BERKMAN, RYMDZUM,
VAKS-ZYSKOND (VILNIUS, OSHMIANY)


participation of Chalres Aaron Konisky in vandeville dance hall #yiddish

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...>
 

Dear Research Group Members

Family tradition has it that my grandfather Charles Aaron Konisky was
engaged in Yiddish vaudeville in New York in about 1902. I am seeking
any documentation of his participation as a vaudeville entertainer (song
and dance). How do I get statred?

He is not listed in the Yiddish theater lexicon, that 6-volume work on
Yiddish actors.

Jordan Konisky
Houston, Texas


Researching: KONISKY (LONDON, RUSSIAN POLAND); BERKMAN, RYMDZUM,
VAKS-ZYSKOND (VILNIUS, OSHMIANY)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania emigration from Kovno #lithuania

Theo Travis / Madelyn Cohen <travis@...>
 

My grandfather emigrated >from Marijampole, which wasn't all that far from
Kovno, to New York City via Bremen in 1913. The route was run by the North
German Lloyd lines and I did find an arrival record for him. I understand
that records for the late 1800s are more patchy.

Madelyn Cohen
travis@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania 1934 Vilnius death #lithuania

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

Can anyone assist me with info about Aharon NAMIOT who died in Vilnius
(Vilna) in 1934? He was born in Zhetl, Belarus in about 1877.
Reply directly to:
Louis Zetler
zetler@...
Searching: ZETLER >from Zhetl, Belarus, Argentina, Baranovich, USA;
NAMIOT >from Zhetl, Belarus;
CHAIT >from Birzh;
ISAACS >from Saukenai;
GORONOVSKY >from Slonim;
GOLDBERG >from Dorpat, Estonia;
ZETS >from "Nishkaiz";
SUGAR >from Zborow, Poland & Hull, England;
SUNTOTSKY >from Wiesenberg, Ukraine & Jonava, Lithuania


1934 Vilnius death #lithuania

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

Can anyone assist me with info about Aharon NAMIOT who died in Vilnius
(Vilna) in 1934? He was born in Zhetl, Belarus in about 1877.
Reply directly to:
Louis Zetler
zetler@...
Searching: ZETLER >from Zhetl, Belarus, Argentina, Baranovich, USA;
NAMIOT >from Zhetl, Belarus;
CHAIT >from Birzh;
ISAACS >from Saukenai;
GORONOVSKY >from Slonim;
GOLDBERG >from Dorpat, Estonia;
ZETS >from "Nishkaiz";
SUGAR >from Zborow, Poland & Hull, England;
SUNTOTSKY >from Wiesenberg, Ukraine & Jonava, Lithuania


emigration from Kovno #lithuania

Theo Travis / Madelyn Cohen <travis@...>
 

My grandfather emigrated >from Marijampole, which wasn't all that far from
Kovno, to New York City via Bremen in 1913. The route was run by the North
German Lloyd lines and I did find an arrival record for him. I understand
that records for the late 1800s are more patchy.

Madelyn Cohen
travis@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Hamelitz #latvia

susanne fleischer <fleischers@...>
 

000414


Hello!

Wonder if anyone knows which libraries that have the journal Hamelitz
on microfilm and if it is possible to order papercopies of some pages?
I'm searching certain advertisements which should be there in some
of the issues.
Hope to get an answer
Susanne Fleischer
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Hamelitz #latvia

susanne fleischer <fleischers@...>
 

000414


Hello!

Wonder if anyone knows which libraries that have the journal Hamelitz
on microfilm and if it is possible to order papercopies of some pages?
I'm searching certain advertisements which should be there in some
of the issues.
Hope to get an answer
Susanne Fleischer
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