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Zabno (Poland) birth records #general

S&E Shamroth <shamroth@...>
 

My ggm and her parents were >from the Zabno which is near Tarnow and Krakow.
I estimate that she was born between 1848 and 1858. I have looked for her
birth records in the LDS films for Tarnow births for this period with no
success. Has anyone searched for Zabnow births in this period and if so,
can they provide guidance. Thanks.

Stephen Shamroth
West Hartford, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zabno (Poland) birth records #general

S&E Shamroth <shamroth@...>
 

My ggm and her parents were >from the Zabno which is near Tarnow and Krakow.
I estimate that she was born between 1848 and 1858. I have looked for her
birth records in the LDS films for Tarnow births for this period with no
success. Has anyone searched for Zabnow births in this period and if so,
can they provide guidance. Thanks.

Stephen Shamroth
West Hartford, CT


DAVIS of Toronto #general

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

I have been searching for the DAVIS family of Canada for a year and today
discovered that they moved >from Montreal to Toronto where Isaac Davis died
in 1888 at the age of 82. He had three children, one of whom, Henry Davis,
was the manager of the Crochet and Knitting Specialty. The other two were
David Davis and Mrs. Miller. Henry's son Lionel Davis was a barrister with
the firm of Davis & Mehr. I could not find the firm in the yellow pages so
presumably it is no longer in business. Henry had three other children,
Violet, who was a teacher in the Zionist Jewish Free School, Arthur and
Bertram.

Does anyone have any information about Isaac Davis's descendants?

Many thanks,

Judy Wolkovitch

Searching: Ansell (Holland and England), Lorrimer (Leicester, England),
Sandheim/Sandeman (England)


Re: Need tombstone translation #general

Ofer Cohen <oferco@...>
 

Margarita,
The transcript says:
Here is burried (this is abbreviated in the two distinct letters in the top
of the tombstone)Yehuda Leib
the Hebrew letters "Bet Reish" (which stand for "Son of Reb") Mordechai Tzvi
died on 13 of Iyar 5698 (This is the Hebrew date)
the Hebrew letters: Tav Nun Tzadik Bet Heh" which stand for Tehe Nishmato
Tzrura Bitzror Hakhayim - will his soul be connected to the living ones -
is written on all the Jewish tombstones.
Ofer Cohen
Israel

At 04:25 PM 4/25/00 -0700, margarita hope wrote:
I would be pleased and thankful if a kind Jewishgenner will translate this
tombstone inscription of my grandfather.

http://www.concentric.net/~mbh70/louis.jpg

thank you much!
Margarita Hope
Lakewood, Washington
mbh70@concentric.net
Searching: BARSKY (Kiev); WEISSMAN (Odessa)


Last letter #general

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

Shalom,

I posted at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/searchin/LASTLTR.JPG
the letter, one out of three, which my aunt and my mother received in
Palestine, >from their family captured in Ghetto Gombin, Poland, dated 14
June 1940.
It is a rare document, left by my late father, which I carefully cherish.

"we are all alive and healthy",
Signed by their own hands:
Gostynski (that is Jakob, my grandfather of Gombin),
Moszek (that is Moshe, my great-grandfather aged over 80, fate is
known... Chelmno!...)
Hewet (that is Jochevet, my grandmother nee' Honigstok >from Kiernozia
and Kutno)
Pinkus (that is my uncle Pinchas, perished in Auschwitz)
Andjia (that is my aunt, wife of Pinkus, nee' Laski of Gombin)

The letter was sent through the Red Cross in Poland.

I wonder if anyone of you knows more about this type
of correspondence and if there is the Red Cross Archive
somewhere, which might keep more letters of this sort, never reached
their destination...

Thank you all, shalom,

Ada Holtzman
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DAVIS of Toronto #general

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

I have been searching for the DAVIS family of Canada for a year and today
discovered that they moved >from Montreal to Toronto where Isaac Davis died
in 1888 at the age of 82. He had three children, one of whom, Henry Davis,
was the manager of the Crochet and Knitting Specialty. The other two were
David Davis and Mrs. Miller. Henry's son Lionel Davis was a barrister with
the firm of Davis & Mehr. I could not find the firm in the yellow pages so
presumably it is no longer in business. Henry had three other children,
Violet, who was a teacher in the Zionist Jewish Free School, Arthur and
Bertram.

Does anyone have any information about Isaac Davis's descendants?

Many thanks,

Judy Wolkovitch

Searching: Ansell (Holland and England), Lorrimer (Leicester, England),
Sandheim/Sandeman (England)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need tombstone translation #general

Ofer Cohen <oferco@...>
 

Margarita,
The transcript says:
Here is burried (this is abbreviated in the two distinct letters in the top
of the tombstone)Yehuda Leib
the Hebrew letters "Bet Reish" (which stand for "Son of Reb") Mordechai Tzvi
died on 13 of Iyar 5698 (This is the Hebrew date)
the Hebrew letters: Tav Nun Tzadik Bet Heh" which stand for Tehe Nishmato
Tzrura Bitzror Hakhayim - will his soul be connected to the living ones -
is written on all the Jewish tombstones.
Ofer Cohen
Israel

At 04:25 PM 4/25/00 -0700, margarita hope wrote:
I would be pleased and thankful if a kind Jewishgenner will translate this
tombstone inscription of my grandfather.

http://www.concentric.net/~mbh70/louis.jpg

thank you much!
Margarita Hope
Lakewood, Washington
mbh70@concentric.net
Searching: BARSKY (Kiev); WEISSMAN (Odessa)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Last letter #general

Ada Holtzman <ada01@...>
 

Shalom,

I posted at:
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/searchin/LASTLTR.JPG
the letter, one out of three, which my aunt and my mother received in
Palestine, >from their family captured in Ghetto Gombin, Poland, dated 14
June 1940.
It is a rare document, left by my late father, which I carefully cherish.

"we are all alive and healthy",
Signed by their own hands:
Gostynski (that is Jakob, my grandfather of Gombin),
Moszek (that is Moshe, my great-grandfather aged over 80, fate is
known... Chelmno!...)
Hewet (that is Jochevet, my grandmother nee' Honigstok >from Kiernozia
and Kutno)
Pinkus (that is my uncle Pinchas, perished in Auschwitz)
Andjia (that is my aunt, wife of Pinkus, nee' Laski of Gombin)

The letter was sent through the Red Cross in Poland.

I wonder if anyone of you knows more about this type
of correspondence and if there is the Red Cross Archive
somewhere, which might keep more letters of this sort, never reached
their destination...

Thank you all, shalom,

Ada Holtzman
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4017/


Passenger Arrival #general

Foodphile@...
 

While searching a microfilm for Passenger Arrivals, I believe I found my
great uncle. However, the arrival card was unlike any I've seen before.
It read:
GABBIN, JACOB 17m cr 76634
According to the instruction sheet at the FHC, the procedure is to write to
Immig. & Nat. Service requesting the arrival date and name of vessel. I
understand that the 5 digit number is the number of the Declaration of
Intent. What confuses me is, why is this card part of the arrivals? Could
it be possible that he left the country after filing a Dec. of Intent, and
re-entered under this document??? Thanks for your ideas.
Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grebow,
Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia COHEN,
Ostropol, Russia SCHIER (SCHUER), Grybow, Pol. SPERBER, Galicia.
KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev.


area code changes #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

We haven't had much discussion here on the genealogical impact
of area code changes. As a recent victim, I thought it time
to speak up!

Changing U.S. area codes can mean, among other things, that your
out-of-town cousins who finally decide to tell you all about
their family get a "wrong number," or that when you try to reach
relatives, their numbers appear to be wrong.

The changeover process is relatively quick: here in Suffolk
County, Long Island, we had six months notice of an impending
change (516 to 631), then a five-month "permissive" period
during which either area code worked. We're now into the
"mandatory" phase: callers who dial 516 get a recording telling
them to dial 631, but soon they'll get the dreaded "You've
reached a nonworking number." (Note that Nassau County--western
Long Island--has retained the 516 area code.)

Area code splits and overlays are occurring at a rapid rate. Some
new area codes for places with large Jewish populations are 240,
267, 347, 443, 646, 732, and 786. Don't recognize them? See
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bsy/area.state.html for a listing of
codes by state and http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bsy/area.html for
a list by number. Another useful site is
http://www.lincmad.com/cities.html
Area code maps at http://www.nanpa.com/ are easy to read, but not
up to the minute.

You may want to check these sites to update your family phone
listings and if you get a "sorry, wrong number" when you dial
mishpacha.

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Passenger Arrival #general

Foodphile@...
 

While searching a microfilm for Passenger Arrivals, I believe I found my
great uncle. However, the arrival card was unlike any I've seen before.
It read:
GABBIN, JACOB 17m cr 76634
According to the instruction sheet at the FHC, the procedure is to write to
Immig. & Nat. Service requesting the arrival date and name of vessel. I
understand that the 5 digit number is the number of the Declaration of
Intent. What confuses me is, why is this card part of the arrivals? Could
it be possible that he left the country after filing a Dec. of Intent, and
re-entered under this document??? Thanks for your ideas.
Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grebow,
Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia COHEN,
Ostropol, Russia SCHIER (SCHUER), Grybow, Pol. SPERBER, Galicia.
KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen area code changes #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

We haven't had much discussion here on the genealogical impact
of area code changes. As a recent victim, I thought it time
to speak up!

Changing U.S. area codes can mean, among other things, that your
out-of-town cousins who finally decide to tell you all about
their family get a "wrong number," or that when you try to reach
relatives, their numbers appear to be wrong.

The changeover process is relatively quick: here in Suffolk
County, Long Island, we had six months notice of an impending
change (516 to 631), then a five-month "permissive" period
during which either area code worked. We're now into the
"mandatory" phase: callers who dial 516 get a recording telling
them to dial 631, but soon they'll get the dreaded "You've
reached a nonworking number." (Note that Nassau County--western
Long Island--has retained the 516 area code.)

Area code splits and overlays are occurring at a rapid rate. Some
new area codes for places with large Jewish populations are 240,
267, 347, 443, 646, 732, and 786. Don't recognize them? See
http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bsy/area.state.html for a listing of
codes by state and http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bsy/area.html for
a list by number. Another useful site is
http://www.lincmad.com/cities.html
Area code maps at http://www.nanpa.com/ are easy to read, but not
up to the minute.

You may want to check these sites to update your family phone
listings and if you get a "sorry, wrong number" when you dial
mishpacha.

Renee

Renee Steinig
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


Re: Hebrew or Yiddish equivalents for George #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Have you thought of "Girsh" or "Gershom?" I am sure others will submit
more possibilities.
As an example in our family, and many others I am sure, the
grandchildren of Rabbi Leib TALALAY and his wife Minya, Mogilev,
Belarus, have a heavy preponderance of Leibs and Minyas. In another
case, someone's wife was Gitta, every girl born to her four sons was
named Gitta (in America however they became Gussie and Gertrude, etc.).
In my experience, this is a common naming pattern.
George was perhaps the closest (and most fashionable at the time!) name
Morris could come up with.
Good luck.
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

From: Mel Werbach <mel@werbach.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:06:49 -0700
X-Message-Number: 44

Following the early death of my ancestor, Morris Auzenberg of Suwalki
gubernia,four of his descendents,all born in America and apparently named
after him, were given George as a middle name: Morris George (2
grandchildren), Maurice George (grandchild) and Martha Georgiana
(niece). His father's name was Meyer and I have yet to find any ancestors
with a name that seems related to George. None of my relatives (including
Maurice George who is still living) has any idea where the name George
came from.

What could be the Hebrew or Yiddish equivalents for George? Also, does
this necessarily imply that he had a middle name or could there be some
other reason why the middle name George was favored by the family?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Hebrew or Yiddish equivalents for George #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Have you thought of "Girsh" or "Gershom?" I am sure others will submit
more possibilities.
As an example in our family, and many others I am sure, the
grandchildren of Rabbi Leib TALALAY and his wife Minya, Mogilev,
Belarus, have a heavy preponderance of Leibs and Minyas. In another
case, someone's wife was Gitta, every girl born to her four sons was
named Gitta (in America however they became Gussie and Gertrude, etc.).
In my experience, this is a common naming pattern.
George was perhaps the closest (and most fashionable at the time!) name
Morris could come up with.
Good luck.
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

From: Mel Werbach <mel@werbach.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:06:49 -0700
X-Message-Number: 44

Following the early death of my ancestor, Morris Auzenberg of Suwalki
gubernia,four of his descendents,all born in America and apparently named
after him, were given George as a middle name: Morris George (2
grandchildren), Maurice George (grandchild) and Martha Georgiana
(niece). His father's name was Meyer and I have yet to find any ancestors
with a name that seems related to George. None of my relatives (including
Maurice George who is still living) has any idea where the name George
came from.

What could be the Hebrew or Yiddish equivalents for George? Also, does
this necessarily imply that he had a middle name or could there be some
other reason why the middle name George was favored by the family?


Re: Information on tombstones #belarus

Eddie Meltzer <edm@...>
 

I believe the grouping of the fingers, somewhat like Spock's hand
sign greeting on StarTrek, is the sign of the Cohanim when they
would make a blessing.
Verify this with someone more in the know though.
Ed Meltzer

Searching:
Meltzer/Melzer/Meltser >from Vilna/Volozhin/Rokov
Sukon >from Wilno

-----Original Message-----
Susan Chernin wrote:
...snip...
Several of the men in our family as well as other male graves had two
hands engraved on them, sometimes palms up and sometimes down with the
fingers grouped in two distinct groups. Can anyone tell us what this
means?
...snip....
--------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Information on tombstones #belarus

Eddie Meltzer <edm@...>
 

I believe the grouping of the fingers, somewhat like Spock's hand
sign greeting on StarTrek, is the sign of the Cohanim when they
would make a blessing.
Verify this with someone more in the know though.
Ed Meltzer

Searching:
Meltzer/Melzer/Meltser >from Vilna/Volozhin/Rokov
Sukon >from Wilno

-----Original Message-----
Susan Chernin wrote:
...snip...
Several of the men in our family as well as other male graves had two
hands engraved on them, sometimes palms up and sometimes down with the
fingers grouped in two distinct groups. Can anyone tell us what this
means?
...snip....
--------------------------


Slutsk Group at SLC Conference? #belarus

Marion5301@...
 

In relation to David Fox's post about items of belarus interest at
the SLC Conference, does anyone know
(1) if the Slutsk group is functioning, and
(2) could a get-together be arranged for some time during the week?

I, for one, would be interested in such a meeting, but I am relatively
new and don't know how to get it organized.

-------------
On April 25, 2000, David Fox wrote,
" The conference program...includes a significant number of
sessions that will benefit those of us who are researching
families >from Belarus.
....snip,...
-------------

Marion Altman Diamond
Sherman Oaks, CA

Researching:
DIAMOND/DIMENT and BROMNICK of Slutsk, Belarus; ACKERMAN of Novoselitsa,
Bessarabia; ALTMAN possibly of Lodz, Poland; LERNER possibly of Vienna;
NOSOWSKI/NOSOFSKY of Ichnya, Chernigov Gubernia, Ukraine;


What does my Galician heritage mean to me? #galicia

Bob Parrish & Ruth Apter <twowetdogs@...>
 

Dear Gesher Galician Discussion Group-
I've been thinking about why I am
attempting to find out where my grandparent came >from and what it means to
me to be a Galician and to be jewish. Galicia, that was all I knew. I
thought that was the name of a town in Austria. A town I couldn't find on
any map. When I did find out about Galicia being a region in a book on
Modern European history I cried! I felt so ignorant and out of touch. I was
one of those hormone crazed teenagers who managed not to pay attention in
history class and hated going to the Temple and listening to a Rabbi
discuss meaningless things. I skipped classes instead. So here I am thirty
years later trying to figure it out. I didn't get to meet my grandparents.
They were dead before I was born or died when I was so little as to have no
memory of them. So I wonder in what ways am I like them? Do the things I
hold dear run in the family or are these my own quirk's? My values,are
these my own or handed down? Do I look like anyone else that came before
me? I know they hated their homeland and were very thankful and happy to
become Americans. So why should I go back to the land that they fled from.
I'm not sure that I will. But yes I'm curious too. Would I feel at home?
Would there be people that looked like me and my family? Should I go to
Utah to this conference??? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Ruth Apter(named after my maternal grandmother)
Friday Harbor, Washington USA


Re: Slownik Geograficzny/Polish publisher #galicia

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

Prompted by our discussion in March about Slownik Geograficzny,
I did a little digging and found that a one-volume (406 pp) name
index to that Polish gazetteer was published in 1995. It is
available >from the publisher, Wyndawnicto DiG, www.dig.com.
Cost is under $20 plus shipping. (Please write me for details.)
According to DiG, "This index contains only names of _persons_
appearing anywhere in the Slownik Geograficzny together
with appriopriate volume and page numbers. It does not include any
additional information."

My visit to DiG's web site raises new questions, which I hope one
of our Polish speakers can answer. It appears >from the site's links
to archives and its tree logo, that this may be a genealogical
publisher. Possibly DiG sells other books of Jewish genealogical
interest (archives guides, etc.). Is someone able and willing to
explore it and let us know?

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York
RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


Belarus SIG #Belarus Slutsk Group at SLC Conference? #belarus

Marion5301@...
 

In relation to David Fox's post about items of belarus interest at
the SLC Conference, does anyone know
(1) if the Slutsk group is functioning, and
(2) could a get-together be arranged for some time during the week?

I, for one, would be interested in such a meeting, but I am relatively
new and don't know how to get it organized.

-------------
On April 25, 2000, David Fox wrote,
" The conference program...includes a significant number of
sessions that will benefit those of us who are researching
families >from Belarus.
....snip,...
-------------

Marion Altman Diamond
Sherman Oaks, CA

Researching:
DIAMOND/DIMENT and BROMNICK of Slutsk, Belarus; ACKERMAN of Novoselitsa,
Bessarabia; ALTMAN possibly of Lodz, Poland; LERNER possibly of Vienna;
NOSOWSKI/NOSOFSKY of Ichnya, Chernigov Gubernia, Ukraine;