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Follow-up: Ancestry did not purge the name #general

Josephine ROSENBLUM <JoRose@...>
 

One red face here. The name Nathan BART that I thought had disappeared
from Ancestry's SSDI is still there. I think I must have mis-typed his
name, and that is why I could not find it recently.

However, there are new developments.

(1) The Ohio Historical finally came through last Friday and sent me his
death certificate. Yes, he did die on 14 Jan 1938. I am wondering if that
makes his death date one of the earliest to appear in the SSDI.

(2) He was President of Apex Steel and Supply Scrap Iron at the time of
his death in 1938 (and when he signed up for a SSN in 1937). I had
thought that Social Security was established in 1936 or 1937 for workers,
not officers of companies (or professional people).

(3) He had a different wife on his death certificate >from the one in the
1920 Census. Therefore, wife #1 (our relative) had died between 1920 and
1938, or they were divorced. [The death certificate gives the full name
of wife #2.]

There are several morals to all this. (a) It doesn't hurt to check the
SSDI, even if a death occurred before 1955, (b) careful typing is essential
when checking databases, and (c) a death certificate may have information
that will surprise you.

Josephine Rosenblum, Cincinnati, OH
< JoRose@... >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Follow-up: Ancestry did not purge the name #general

Josephine ROSENBLUM <JoRose@...>
 

One red face here. The name Nathan BART that I thought had disappeared
from Ancestry's SSDI is still there. I think I must have mis-typed his
name, and that is why I could not find it recently.

However, there are new developments.

(1) The Ohio Historical finally came through last Friday and sent me his
death certificate. Yes, he did die on 14 Jan 1938. I am wondering if that
makes his death date one of the earliest to appear in the SSDI.

(2) He was President of Apex Steel and Supply Scrap Iron at the time of
his death in 1938 (and when he signed up for a SSN in 1937). I had
thought that Social Security was established in 1936 or 1937 for workers,
not officers of companies (or professional people).

(3) He had a different wife on his death certificate >from the one in the
1920 Census. Therefore, wife #1 (our relative) had died between 1920 and
1938, or they were divorced. [The death certificate gives the full name
of wife #2.]

There are several morals to all this. (a) It doesn't hurt to check the
SSDI, even if a death occurred before 1955, (b) careful typing is essential
when checking databases, and (c) a death certificate may have information
that will surprise you.

Josephine Rosenblum, Cincinnati, OH
< JoRose@... >


Re: The Name Fagel #general

Stan Goodman <geneal@...>
 

Actually, "Fegel/Feigel/Faigel" and other variants represent German "Vogel"
(=bird). It is not the diminutive of anything.

On Thu, 1 Jan 1970 01:59:59, debjkay@... (debjkay) wrote:

Yes, there is a name, Fegel, and it means little bird, it is my middle
name, and I beleive it is adiminuitive of Faiga.

Debra Kay
debjkay@...
Simi Valley, Ca


Yonasan Shapiro < shapie@... > wrote:

Is there a name Fagel or is it a variant of Fayga??? I say it is a name
by itself while someone in my shul disagrees.
Please enlighten me.

Yonasan Shapiro
Bayonne, NJ

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Name Fagel #general

Stan Goodman <geneal@...>
 

Actually, "Fegel/Feigel/Faigel" and other variants represent German "Vogel"
(=bird). It is not the diminutive of anything.

On Thu, 1 Jan 1970 01:59:59, debjkay@... (debjkay) wrote:

Yes, there is a name, Fegel, and it means little bird, it is my middle
name, and I beleive it is adiminuitive of Faiga.

Debra Kay
debjkay@...
Simi Valley, Ca


Yonasan Shapiro < shapie@... > wrote:

Is there a name Fagel or is it a variant of Fayga??? I say it is a name
by itself while someone in my shul disagrees.
Please enlighten me.

Yonasan Shapiro
Bayonne, NJ

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

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Re: Yehudah #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

My ggf Yehuda Schumkav became Julius Singman
in this country. Hope this helps.

Diane Jacobs
New York

What would the anglicized equivalent of Yehudah be?

Stacy Harris


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yehudah #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

My ggf Yehuda Schumkav became Julius Singman
in this country. Hope this helps.

Diane Jacobs
New York

What would the anglicized equivalent of Yehudah be?

Stacy Harris


Re: First name Ella? #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Robert Fleischman of Miami Beach, FL posted as follows:

"My ggm's name was Ella. Is this a contraction? I think it was listed
on passenger lists as Elke. What is the origin of these names?"

The Given Names Data Base for Lithuania provides the following
information about this Yiddish name:

Yiddish: Ella, Elle
Yiddish nicknames: Elka, Elke, Ilka, Ilke
Origin: >from old German name Ella, Elle

European secular: Ellush, Illush

US names: Alice, Anna, Eileen, Elka, Ella, Ellen, Elsie, Emma

The US names were those adopted by female emigrants >from Lithuania to
the US.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel
jerry@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: First name Ella? #general

Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

Robert Fleischman of Miami Beach, FL posted as follows:

"My ggm's name was Ella. Is this a contraction? I think it was listed
on passenger lists as Elke. What is the origin of these names?"

The Given Names Data Base for Lithuania provides the following
information about this Yiddish name:

Yiddish: Ella, Elle
Yiddish nicknames: Elka, Elke, Ilka, Ilke
Origin: >from old German name Ella, Elle

European secular: Ellush, Illush

US names: Alice, Anna, Eileen, Elka, Ella, Ellen, Elsie, Emma

The US names were those adopted by female emigrants >from Lithuania to
the US.

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel
jerry@...


Ryazan research #general

Leon.Koll@...
 

I am looking for genners who are interested in Ryazan(Russia) research.
In the beginning of 1891 in Ryazan lived 46 jewish families including
two families of my ancestors (KULL and PRYANIKOV).
It's not clear whether the Ryazan State archive has a jewish metric
records.
Anyone interested in cooperation please reply privately.

TIA,
Leon Koll
mailto:Leon.Koll@...
Yehud, Israel

Researching:
SEREBRYANY,SEREBRENY,SEREBRENNY (Rechitsa,Loyev)
PERSITS,PERSHITS (Belarus)
POTOK (Brailov,Zhitomir) LANDAU (Brailov)
SPIVAK (Belaya Tzerkov,Radomyshl)
MILMAN (Belaya Tzerkov)
KULL,KULLE (Estonia,Ryazan) PRYANIKOV (Ryazan)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ryazan research #general

Leon.Koll@...
 

I am looking for genners who are interested in Ryazan(Russia) research.
In the beginning of 1891 in Ryazan lived 46 jewish families including
two families of my ancestors (KULL and PRYANIKOV).
It's not clear whether the Ryazan State archive has a jewish metric
records.
Anyone interested in cooperation please reply privately.

TIA,
Leon Koll
mailto:Leon.Koll@...
Yehud, Israel

Researching:
SEREBRYANY,SEREBRENY,SEREBRENNY (Rechitsa,Loyev)
PERSITS,PERSHITS (Belarus)
POTOK (Brailov,Zhitomir) LANDAU (Brailov)
SPIVAK (Belaya Tzerkov,Radomyshl)
MILMAN (Belaya Tzerkov)
KULL,KULLE (Estonia,Ryazan) PRYANIKOV (Ryazan)


Limiting Responses #general

W. Ellen Fleischmann & Reid A. Kneeland
 

Dear Jenners,

I just spent 2 hours deleting over 600 messages >from JewishGen. This was
one week's worth of mail.

While managing my mailbox is certainly my own concern, I thought that I
might make one small suggestion: when replying to someone's request for
information, if the request is more than a day old, please check to see if
anyone else has already responded.

I appreciate the generous spirit of all of Geners, and in no way do I
suggest that it be quelled. Rather, I would respectfully request that
unless you have something counter to or significantly different >from what's
already been posted, please just defer to the Genner-on-the-Spot.

I hope that this will help all of us find those important postings which
connect us to family then and now.

Thanks for reading this.

Please, no flames. And please, let's not discuss this suggestion endlessly!

B'shalom,

Ellen Fleischmann

FLEISCHMANN (Yanoshuk, Lithuania; St. Louis, MO), DUNIE or DUNJE,
USA/Lithuania, SALGALLER, GROSBLATT, PICKEL, LAMPERT
CYTRON, KLEIN, (Louisville, KY) COLLINS/KOLLINTZ, EPPSTEIN (Bialystock),
BACHARACH

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Limiting Responses #general

W. Ellen Fleischmann & Reid A. Kneeland
 

Dear Jenners,

I just spent 2 hours deleting over 600 messages >from JewishGen. This was
one week's worth of mail.

While managing my mailbox is certainly my own concern, I thought that I
might make one small suggestion: when replying to someone's request for
information, if the request is more than a day old, please check to see if
anyone else has already responded.

I appreciate the generous spirit of all of Geners, and in no way do I
suggest that it be quelled. Rather, I would respectfully request that
unless you have something counter to or significantly different >from what's
already been posted, please just defer to the Genner-on-the-Spot.

I hope that this will help all of us find those important postings which
connect us to family then and now.

Thanks for reading this.

Please, no flames. And please, let's not discuss this suggestion endlessly!

B'shalom,

Ellen Fleischmann

FLEISCHMANN (Yanoshuk, Lithuania; St. Louis, MO), DUNIE or DUNJE,
USA/Lithuania, SALGALLER, GROSBLATT, PICKEL, LAMPERT
CYTRON, KLEIN, (Louisville, KY) COLLINS/KOLLINTZ, EPPSTEIN (Bialystock),
BACHARACH

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Where are the towns of Hriniow and Bukow, Galicia. #general

George
 

Hello,

I just found out that my ggm Feige Frankel was born in Hriniow, Galicia
in 1843. I assume it was close to Lviv (Lemberg). Another relative is
listed as >from Bukow, Galicia.

I couldn't find these towns on the shtetlfinder. Can anyone help?

George Frankel
San Francisco, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where are the towns of Hriniow and Bukow, Galicia. #general

George
 

Hello,

I just found out that my ggm Feige Frankel was born in Hriniow, Galicia
in 1843. I assume it was close to Lviv (Lemberg). Another relative is
listed as >from Bukow, Galicia.

I couldn't find these towns on the shtetlfinder. Can anyone help?

George Frankel
San Francisco, California


REINMAN , MAUER :NY & Chicago address/telephone lookup request #general

Nir Alon <niralon@...>
 

I am trying to make contact with

1) Miriam & Shalom REINMAN (last known residence New York)
2) Frieda MAUER (last known residence Chicago)

I would be grateful to anyone able to find a mailing address (or even
better - email address).

Thanks!

Nir Alon mailto:niralon@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen REINMAN , MAUER :NY & Chicago address/telephone lookup request #general

Nir Alon <niralon@...>
 

I am trying to make contact with

1) Miriam & Shalom REINMAN (last known residence New York)
2) Frieda MAUER (last known residence Chicago)

I would be grateful to anyone able to find a mailing address (or even
better - email address).

Thanks!

Nir Alon mailto:niralon@...


Belzec Information #general

A. Feiner <afeiner@...>
 


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Belzec Information #general

A. Feiner <afeiner@...>
 


Searching BIRNBAUM/WEISEL/KELNER #general

Louis A Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear Jgeners,

Anybody know these folks?

Abraham BIRNBAUM born Sep 27, 1917
wife Devorah Dora Weisel 1924
2 sons
Samuel Birnbaum born 1951
wife Marcel Rein born 1953

Hyme Birnbaum
last known address: Jerico NY
wife Susan BERMAN
1 son 1 daughter
Joshua Birnbaum born 1977
Jill Birnbaum born 1982

Parents of Devorah Weisel

Chaim Moishe WEISEL born circa 1880
in Rozwadow Galcia Austria
his wife: Malke Gitel Last

Devorah's Siblings:
Golda
Ruchla
David
Naphtala
Shimon
Meilach

Milton KELNER born ?
wife Ruth Weisel born ?

Please reply privately:

Louis A. Fine
University Place WA
E-mail <l oufine@... >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching BIRNBAUM/WEISEL/KELNER #general

Louis A Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear Jgeners,

Anybody know these folks?

Abraham BIRNBAUM born Sep 27, 1917
wife Devorah Dora Weisel 1924
2 sons
Samuel Birnbaum born 1951
wife Marcel Rein born 1953

Hyme Birnbaum
last known address: Jerico NY
wife Susan BERMAN
1 son 1 daughter
Joshua Birnbaum born 1977
Jill Birnbaum born 1982

Parents of Devorah Weisel

Chaim Moishe WEISEL born circa 1880
in Rozwadow Galcia Austria
his wife: Malke Gitel Last

Devorah's Siblings:
Golda
Ruchla
David
Naphtala
Shimon
Meilach

Milton KELNER born ?
wife Ruth Weisel born ?

Please reply privately:

Louis A. Fine
University Place WA
E-mail <l oufine@... >