Hi Genners,

I'm making an accompanying log for my family tree that lists all my
family's names in aphabetical order, and I'm wondering how you would
list a woman's name when she's been married more than once. I'm
guessing I would list her under her current surname and then key in both
her previous surnames, so it would look like this:

Brown, Sally (nee Smith, nee Jones) (1950 - ).

Is this a good guess?

TIA,

Shira Honig

Hi Genners,

I'm making an accompanying log for my family tree that lists all my
family's names in aphabetical order, and I'm wondering how you would
list a woman's name when she's been married more than once. I'm
guessing I would list her under her current surname and then key in both
her previous surnames, so it would look like this:

Brown, Sally (nee Smith, nee Jones) (1950 - ).

Is this a good guess?

TIA,

Shira Honig

Abe,

Actually, equivalent of "blacksmith" in Polish is Kowalski, an extremly
popular Polish surname.

Other blacksmith alternatives: Kowal, Kowalik,Kowalczuk, Kowalczyk, and east
Polish/Russian border variations: Kuzniets, Kuzniecow, and so on.
Tinsmith: Blacharz, Blacharczyk
Silversmith: Srebnik, Srebrenik (Silberstein, Silwer, Silver)

They could also have adopted name of village of their origin: Kowalowice,
Kowalo'w, Kowalik, Kowalin.

One can go on wth the smith variations and speculations as >from what and/or

from where original name could be tranaslated or adopted. Possibilities and

alternatives are virtually limitless.

Hope that this will not bring more confusion.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB, Canada
mailto: a.sharon@...

AviDov@...> wrote in message news:20.a211bae.26ca3825@......
A branch of our my mother's family,originally >from Poland,was given the

name

Smith
or perhaps opted for it at Ellis Island.
They know it was very difficult to pronounce
but have no idea how it sounded..
One theory is that it may have meant " tinsmith" or "metal worker" in

Polish .

Could that have been " ZIELAZO " or something close to that ?
Another chance is that it actually sounded like SMITH,in which case,what

are

some of the Polish words or names to fit that possibility ?

They know that siblings of the senior David Smith who went to Canada did

not

use
the Smith name,but they lost contact over 75 years ago.

Not much to go on,but always worth an honest try. Abe Nutkis
mailto:Avidov@...

Abe,

Actually, equivalent of "blacksmith" in Polish is Kowalski, an extremly
popular Polish surname.

Other blacksmith alternatives: Kowal, Kowalik,Kowalczuk, Kowalczyk, and east
Polish/Russian border variations: Kuzniets, Kuzniecow, and so on.
Tinsmith: Blacharz, Blacharczyk
Silversmith: Srebnik, Srebrenik (Silberstein, Silwer, Silver)

They could also have adopted name of village of their origin: Kowalowice,
Kowalo'w, Kowalik, Kowalin.

One can go on wth the smith variations and speculations as >from what and/or

from where original name could be tranaslated or adopted. Possibilities and

alternatives are virtually limitless.

Hope that this will not bring more confusion.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB, Canada
mailto: a.sharon@...

AviDov@...> wrote in message news:20.a211bae.26ca3825@......
A branch of our my mother's family,originally >from Poland,was given the

name

Smith
or perhaps opted for it at Ellis Island.
They know it was very difficult to pronounce
but have no idea how it sounded..
One theory is that it may have meant " tinsmith" or "metal worker" in

Polish .

Could that have been " ZIELAZO " or something close to that ?
Another chance is that it actually sounded like SMITH,in which case,what

are

some of the Polish words or names to fit that possibility ?

They know that siblings of the senior David Smith who went to Canada did

not

use
the Smith name,but they lost contact over 75 years ago.

Not much to go on,but always worth an honest try. Abe Nutkis
mailto:Avidov@...

Hi!

My message will cover two items . . .

First, for those of you interested (I have no financial interest in the company)
keep an eye on the Ancestry website in the near future. It appears that upcoming
databases will include;
New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galacia, Poland), 1890.
http://www.ancestry.com

The last item I have is a question that I would respectively request that you
respond to privately. For any of you who have hired someone within the U.S. to do
genealogy research could you please tell me how much you might have paid an hour?
I am trying to come up with a "fair market" average and your responses would be
most appreciated. Again, please reply in private.

Thank you all for your time.

Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
mailto:kendrickkreation@...


MODERATOR NOTE: The above database was developed by Dr. Howard Relles.
It can be found on JewishGen at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm The search capabilities
include tables of ships, given names, Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex, and the
Nara Soundex are just a few of its features.

Hi!

My message will cover two items . . .

First, for those of you interested (I have no financial interest in the company)
keep an eye on the Ancestry website in the near future. It appears that upcoming
databases will include;
New York City Immigrants (Austria, Galacia, Poland), 1890.
http://www.ancestry.com

The last item I have is a question that I would respectively request that you
respond to privately. For any of you who have hired someone within the U.S. to do
genealogy research could you please tell me how much you might have paid an hour?
I am trying to come up with a "fair market" average and your responses would be
most appreciated. Again, please reply in private.

Thank you all for your time.

Nancy Ring-Kendrick
Daytona Beach, FL
mailto:kendrickkreation@...


MODERATOR NOTE: The above database was developed by Dr. Howard Relles.
It can be found on JewishGen at the following URL:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/1890ny.htm The search capabilities
include tables of ships, given names, Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex, and the
Nara Soundex are just a few of its features.

Carol,

How about getting reciprocal "look ups" if you know someone in the
States who needs material >from Israel. Just an idea.

Phyllis Cole, NJ, USA

I don't recall the original post but it could be when one enters their
data in the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder and obtains a "researcher
number"

On 12 Aug 2000 15:22:05 -0700, sallybru@... (Sally Bruckheimer)
wrote:

One becomes a researcher by doing research. Check out your relatives to
find out what they know and what is in their attics, read genealogy
books-how to books, go to your local Mormon Library to see what they have
(don't forget to ask about family group sheets and pedigree charts if you
want hand written records), go to the cemetery where your family is buried,
go to city and county hall and get records for your family, get on the
internet and read Jewishgen and other genealogy sites (Jewishgen will tell
you if there is a Jewish genealogical society near you), try different
computer programs for recording information,...and that is off the top of
my head.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY

Carol,

How about getting reciprocal "look ups" if you know someone in the
States who needs material >from Israel. Just an idea.

Phyllis Cole, NJ, USA

I don't recall the original post but it could be when one enters their
data in the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder and obtains a "researcher
number"

On 12 Aug 2000 15:22:05 -0700, sallybru@... (Sally Bruckheimer)
wrote:

One becomes a researcher by doing research. Check out your relatives to
find out what they know and what is in their attics, read genealogy
books-how to books, go to your local Mormon Library to see what they have
(don't forget to ask about family group sheets and pedigree charts if you
want hand written records), go to the cemetery where your family is buried,
go to city and county hall and get records for your family, get on the
internet and read Jewishgen and other genealogy sites (Jewishgen will tell
you if there is a Jewish genealogical society near you), try different
computer programs for recording information,...and that is off the top of
my head.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY

There is a story in my family that my great grandfather, Shmuel
Yeshiyahu CHERNIAK, was imprisoned by the communists shortly after the
overthrow of the czar. Supposedly he had been a pharmacist "in the
czar's court" and somehow the communists took offence to his ties to the
ruling class. (Yes, I know these stories are often heavily imbellished
if even remotely true)

Is there any method to search for Russian records regarding prison terms
or crimes in the early 1900's?

David Colman
Toronto, Canada

There is a story in my family that my great grandfather, Shmuel
Yeshiyahu CHERNIAK, was imprisoned by the communists shortly after the
overthrow of the czar. Supposedly he had been a pharmacist "in the
czar's court" and somehow the communists took offence to his ties to the
ruling class. (Yes, I know these stories are often heavily imbellished
if even remotely true)

Is there any method to search for Russian records regarding prison terms
or crimes in the early 1900's?

David Colman
Toronto, Canada

Meryl,

Town is known as Bistuszowa {beeh stooh shoh vah], coordinates 4953 2105,
you can check it through ShtetlSeeker. Located just east of Tuchow (6 miles
distance)on the local road Tuchow- Ryglice

Alexander Sharon
mailto: a.sharon@...

FOODPHILE@...> wrote in message news:2f.93a1de7.26ca46a7@......
I have received the copy of my great grandparents marriage record from
Poland. It lists the town of my gggrandparents, Joel and Riwke HIRSCH, as
Bistuszuw. I cannot find any reference to that town and would appreciate

any

help. My ggrandparents were >from the Tarnow area (Grybow). Thanks for

any

help.
Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grybow
area, Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia
COHEN, Ostropol, Russia SCHEIER (SCHAJER)(SCHEUER), Grybow area, Pol.
SPERBER, Galicia. KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev.
GELLER, Grybow/Tarnow.

Meryl,

Town is known as Bistuszowa {beeh stooh shoh vah], coordinates 4953 2105,
you can check it through ShtetlSeeker. Located just east of Tuchow (6 miles
distance)on the local road Tuchow- Ryglice

Alexander Sharon
mailto: a.sharon@...

FOODPHILE@...> wrote in message news:2f.93a1de7.26ca46a7@......
I have received the copy of my great grandparents marriage record from
Poland. It lists the town of my gggrandparents, Joel and Riwke HIRSCH, as
Bistuszuw. I cannot find any reference to that town and would appreciate

any

help. My ggrandparents were >from the Tarnow area (Grybow). Thanks for

any

help.
Meryl Persky
Calabasas, Ca.
DUNITZ (DONETZ), Kovel, Ukr. SALZMAN, Ukr. KETCHMAN, Ukr. HIRSCH, Grybow
area, Pol. LEDER, Ryglice, Pol, TEPPER, Galicia KELLNER, Ostropol, Russia
COHEN, Ostropol, Russia SCHEIER (SCHAJER)(SCHEUER), Grybow area, Pol.
SPERBER, Galicia. KARTAGENER, Tuchow, Pol. GRUNBERG (GREENBERG) Kishinev.
GELLER, Grybow/Tarnow.

A son was born to my unmarried mother Ruchel/Rojza SOBOWINSKI or
SOBAWINSKI in Lodz in 1921 or 1922, and given to an aunt Pessa
Sobawinski/Sobowinski (maiden name STRAWSZYNSKI) who adopted out the
child to a wealthy soap manufacturer in Lodz or vicinity. The child may
have been registered to any of the above names or to my mother's mother
Faiga Brucha Sobowinski. Would anyone have any information about this
baby son of my mother. My mother died in 1981 in the United States, and
I am seeking my half brother.

Sincerely
A. Shaw
ps44@...
Melbourne, FL

Szaja is probably Shaya, Yeshayahu, Isaiah. (Incidentally, my father's name).
Amoz Chernoff
Potomac, MD

A son was born to my unmarried mother Ruchel/Rojza SOBOWINSKI or
SOBAWINSKI in Lodz in 1921 or 1922, and given to an aunt Pessa
Sobawinski/Sobowinski (maiden name STRAWSZYNSKI) who adopted out the
child to a wealthy soap manufacturer in Lodz or vicinity. The child may
have been registered to any of the above names or to my mother's mother
Faiga Brucha Sobowinski. Would anyone have any information about this
baby son of my mother. My mother died in 1981 in the United States, and
I am seeking my half brother.

Sincerely
A. Shaw
ps44@...
Melbourne, FL

Szaja is probably Shaya, Yeshayahu, Isaiah. (Incidentally, my father's name).
Amoz Chernoff
Potomac, MD

I have some BOTSCH family in my ancestory. Don't know if it's
connected, since the spelling of the name has been changed. I do know
that some of the BOTSCH family I have is >from the Germany/Prussia area
and that some moved to Italy, changing the name to BOCCE. I'd be happy
to work with you to see if there are any connections.
Michelle

In article <399926ED.82747D95@...>,
Maya Kelner <kal-gam@...> wrote:

Hi,
I am looking for information about the following families, who lived

in

Sighet, Hungary in 1870-1944:
Bashe
Reich
Weisel
Fishkovits
Shlomovits
Any info. will help.
Thanks
Maya
Tel-Aviv, Israel
mailto:kal-gam@...

I have some BOTSCH family in my ancestory. Don't know if it's
connected, since the spelling of the name has been changed. I do know
that some of the BOTSCH family I have is >from the Germany/Prussia area
and that some moved to Italy, changing the name to BOCCE. I'd be happy
to work with you to see if there are any connections.
Michelle

In article <399926ED.82747D95@...>,
Maya Kelner <kal-gam@...> wrote:

Hi,
I am looking for information about the following families, who lived

in

Sighet, Hungary in 1870-1944:
Bashe
Reich
Weisel
Fishkovits
Shlomovits
Any info. will help.
Thanks
Maya
Tel-Aviv, Israel
mailto:kal-gam@...