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Re: DNA As a tool for proving familial ties
#dna
bcg@...
Hi Harold
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These answers should answer Harold's questions, and partially answer Ernest's questions. If the two people share the Cohanim Modal Haplotype (CMH) they would match up on Loci 1-4, 8 & 11, which were identified by geneticists a few years ago. We also have 6 other markers used to increase resolution and to better determine the time to MOST RECENT COMMON ANCESTOR (aka MRCA). A few weeks ago we did this very thing with some people who came >from this discussion group. They both had a tradition of being Cohanim, and had an uncommon Surname. They did not share Geography! They happened to match both the Cohanim markers and each other, something that has not happened within our database before. (Yes that means that every person in the database who has tested positive for the (CMH) has been unique and has not matched other Cohanim in the database at the other loci). If they both had the CMH, but didn't match in but 4 of the other 6 loci, they would be considered 10/12 and the charts >from our population geneticist would apply in that case. If they matched in 12/12 then these tables would apply...which say: 99.9% likelihood of common ancestor 50% of the time the common ancestor would 'surface' by generation 14 90% of the time the common ancestor would 'surface' by generation 48 Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston
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From: "Harold Rhode" <hrhode@erols.com> To: "DNA Testing, Ask the Experts" <dna@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: Re: DNA As a tool for prooving familial ties I realize that beacuse they are both Kohanim. We have two dierct male
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DNA Research #DNA Re: DNA As a tool for proving familial ties
#dna
bcg@...
Hi Harold
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
These answers should answer Harold's questions, and partially answer Ernest's questions. If the two people share the Cohanim Modal Haplotype (CMH) they would match up on Loci 1-4, 8 & 11, which were identified by geneticists a few years ago. We also have 6 other markers used to increase resolution and to better determine the time to MOST RECENT COMMON ANCESTOR (aka MRCA). A few weeks ago we did this very thing with some people who came >from this discussion group. They both had a tradition of being Cohanim, and had an uncommon Surname. They did not share Geography! They happened to match both the Cohanim markers and each other, something that has not happened within our database before. (Yes that means that every person in the database who has tested positive for the (CMH) has been unique and has not matched other Cohanim in the database at the other loci). If they both had the CMH, but didn't match in but 4 of the other 6 loci, they would be considered 10/12 and the charts >from our population geneticist would apply in that case. If they matched in 12/12 then these tables would apply...which say: 99.9% likelihood of common ancestor 50% of the time the common ancestor would 'surface' by generation 14 90% of the time the common ancestor would 'surface' by generation 48 Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Rhode" <hrhode@erols.com> To: "DNA Testing, Ask the Experts" <dna@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: Re: DNA As a tool for prooving familial ties I realize that beacuse they are both Kohanim. We have two dierct male
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Re: Sydney J Harris
#general
Leonardo Herzenberg <herzenberg@...>
In article <000501c02b35$209e9a20$1bc7fea9@computername>,
gagluck@earthlink.net says... I am doing some research on columnist Sydney J Harris. While his column I remember him >from the Chicago Daily News, closed down many years ago.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Sydney J Harris
#general
Leonardo Herzenberg <herzenberg@...>
In article <000501c02b35$209e9a20$1bc7fea9@computername>,
gagluck@earthlink.net says... I am doing some research on columnist Sydney J Harris. While his column I remember him >from the Chicago Daily News, closed down many years ago.
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Zechlin; Rav Nachman Buki
#general
Buki, Yaron Z <BukiYZ@...>
Shana Tuva V'chatima tuva
Does anybody have any information on the Hasidus of Zechlin? My family lived in Kalinare (s.p.) before they moved to Lipno, both cities are in Poland. If there are books out there how can I aquire them? Thank you, Yaron Buki Sacramento. Ca
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zechlin; Rav Nachman Buki
#general
Buki, Yaron Z <BukiYZ@...>
Shana Tuva V'chatima tuva
Does anybody have any information on the Hasidus of Zechlin? My family lived in Kalinare (s.p.) before they moved to Lipno, both cities are in Poland. If there are books out there how can I aquire them? Thank you, Yaron Buki Sacramento. Ca
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Searching: EPPSTEINER of NY, Michael JACOBS of Brooklyn
#general
Jeff Sugarman <sugarjf@...>
I am looking for the sisters of Alexander LEOPOLD who were born in Brooklyn
around 1880 and who, according to a 1945 obituary of Alexander, were Mrs. Henry EPPSTEINER of New York City and Mrs. Michael JACOBS of Brooklyn. Alexander's sisters names were Lina, Julia, Belle, and Ida. I don't know which would be the two above. I'd appreciate any information about any of these families. Thanks much, Jeff Sugarman Los Altos, CA sugarjf@att.net
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching: EPPSTEINER of NY, Michael JACOBS of Brooklyn
#general
Jeff Sugarman <sugarjf@...>
I am looking for the sisters of Alexander LEOPOLD who were born in Brooklyn
around 1880 and who, according to a 1945 obituary of Alexander, were Mrs. Henry EPPSTEINER of New York City and Mrs. Michael JACOBS of Brooklyn. Alexander's sisters names were Lina, Julia, Belle, and Ida. I don't know which would be the two above. I'd appreciate any information about any of these families. Thanks much, Jeff Sugarman Los Altos, CA sugarjf@att.net
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EISHYSHOK book being offered of our auction site
#general
rokoco1@...
Dear Genners:
THERE ONCE WAS A WORLD (EISHYSHOK, POLAND - NOW LITHUANIA) is being on JewishGen's auction site and may be viewed at the following URL: http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/auction.pl?books&971399262. This First Edition book is full of family stories, names, beautiful pictures and would be a treasure for anyone to have in their library. Our very best wishes for an easy fast, Bobbi & Jerry Cohen
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EISHYSHOK book being offered of our auction site
#general
rokoco1@...
Dear Genners:
THERE ONCE WAS A WORLD (EISHYSHOK, POLAND - NOW LITHUANIA) is being on JewishGen's auction site and may be viewed at the following URL: http://www.jewishgen.org/cgi-bin/auction.pl?books&971399262. This First Edition book is full of family stories, names, beautiful pictures and would be a treasure for anyone to have in their library. Our very best wishes for an easy fast, Bobbi & Jerry Cohen
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Seflaum@...
19th Century Records For Wieruszow to be indexed; you have a unique
opportunity to help 19th Century Records For Wieruszow Making it accessible - on-line. It's happening now Dear Fellow Researchers, Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than 800,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific documents for further research. Until now it has been virtually impossible to research one's family >from Wieruszow; LDS films of Jewish records >from this town are NON-EXISTENT! Wieruszow is located south of Kalisz; it is about 15 miles west of Wielun and Zloczew and 30 miles west of Dzialoszyn. Towns neighboring Wieruszow approximately 30 miles to the northeast are Zdunska Wola, Sieradz, Lask and Warta. Now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for all 19th century years for Wieruszow housed in the Lodz are in the process of development and addition to the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm The 3,500 Wieruszow birth, marriage and death records span the years 1826 through the 1870, and perhaps beyond. We will not know the full extent of years until indexing is completed by the JRI-Poland team in Poland. This means that when indexes are completed for Wieruszow, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research into a time period or geographical area that has been elusive and beyond your reach. Once these indexes are completed, you may simply print out an order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order the records >from the Polish State Archives. I have agreed to take on the responsibility of Wieruszow Town Leader. Please join me in making this extremely worthwhile and exciting project a success. Your participation in this project can help bring to light information you may have never imagined you would find. Please spread the word to everyone you are in contact with who has an interest in Wieruszow or this area -- family, friends, co-researchers. All should be encouraged to participate. The Lodz branch archives has extensive records for the city of Lodz and approximately 50 towns in the area. The list of towns whose partial, or complete, records are contained in the Lodz branch archive may be seen at: http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Lodz/lds.htm Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Wieruszow project will be available in the future at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page. If you have any questions, please do not hestitate to ask. Sincerely, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project Coordinator Houston, Texas E-mail: seflaum@aol.com Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Lodz/LDS.htm
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Seflaum@...
19th Century Records For Wieruszow to be indexed; you have a unique
opportunity to help 19th Century Records For Wieruszow Making it accessible - on-line. It's happening now Dear Fellow Researchers, Many of us researching our ancestors >from Poland have found valuable information in the microfilms of the LDS Family History Centers. For the last several years, this effort has gained momentum because more than 800,000 of the records in the LDS collection have been indexed and are available on the Internet through the searchable database of Jewish Records Indexing- Poland (http://www.jewishgen/JRI-PL). The indexes themselves provide valuable genealogical data and enable one to zero in on specific documents for further research. Until now it has been virtually impossible to research one's family >from Wieruszow; LDS films of Jewish records >from this town are NON-EXISTENT! Wieruszow is located south of Kalisz; it is about 15 miles west of Wielun and Zloczew and 30 miles west of Dzialoszyn. Towns neighboring Wieruszow approximately 30 miles to the northeast are Zdunska Wola, Sieradz, Lask and Warta. Now, indexes to Polish-Jewish records for all 19th century years for Wieruszow housed in the Lodz are in the process of development and addition to the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland database under a groundbreaking agreement between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives (PSA). For information about the PSA project see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm The 3,500 Wieruszow birth, marriage and death records span the years 1826 through the 1870, and perhaps beyond. We will not know the full extent of years until indexing is completed by the JRI-Poland team in Poland. This means that when indexes are completed for Wieruszow, this new material will finally allow you to expand your research into a time period or geographical area that has been elusive and beyond your reach. Once these indexes are completed, you may simply print out an order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order the records >from the Polish State Archives. I have agreed to take on the responsibility of Wieruszow Town Leader. Please join me in making this extremely worthwhile and exciting project a success. Your participation in this project can help bring to light information you may have never imagined you would find. Please spread the word to everyone you are in contact with who has an interest in Wieruszow or this area -- family, friends, co-researchers. All should be encouraged to participate. The Lodz branch archives has extensive records for the city of Lodz and approximately 50 towns in the area. The list of towns whose partial, or complete, records are contained in the Lodz branch archive may be seen at: http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Lodz/lds.htm Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Wieruszow project will be available in the future at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psastat.htm, click on "Status Report: PSA Project Underway" which is the last line in the heading of this page. If you have any questions, please do not hestitate to ask. Sincerely, Shirley Rotbein Flaum Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project Coordinator Houston, Texas E-mail: seflaum@aol.com Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/Shtetlinks/Lodz/LDS.htm
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Re: Lemberg - Kaminsky Polosky
#poland
Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
I was in Lviv earlier this year.
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I went with a group of six people. We had a guide with a driver - so no problem getting around. Only minor hassle was the long wait at the airport to get past passport control (1.5 hrs).
At 4:49 PM -0400 10/1/00, rita braun wrote:
Has anyone gone to Lemberg (Galicia and/or Kaminsky Polosky (Russia). If so, --
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JRI Poland #Poland Re: Lemberg - Kaminsky Polosky
#poland
Josef A. Herz <josef@...>
I was in Lviv earlier this year.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I went with a group of six people. We had a guide with a driver - so no problem getting around. Only minor hassle was the long wait at the airport to get past passport control (1.5 hrs).
At 4:49 PM -0400 10/1/00, rita braun wrote:
Has anyone gone to Lemberg (Galicia and/or Kaminsky Polosky (Russia). If so, --
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Josef Herz
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PBS Link to "There Once Was A Town"
#poland
m.steinberg <m.steinberg@...>
Here is the link to "There Once Was A Town":
www.pbs.org/whatson/press/fall/thereonce.html It provides a description and schedule for the airing of the documentary Gary Mokotoff referred to in his e-mail. Mike British Columbia, Canada
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JRI Poland #Poland PBS Link to "There Once Was A Town"
#poland
m.steinberg <m.steinberg@...>
Here is the link to "There Once Was A Town":
www.pbs.org/whatson/press/fall/thereonce.html It provides a description and schedule for the airing of the documentary Gary Mokotoff referred to in his e-mail. Mike British Columbia, Canada
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Krakow events.
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Dear Galizianers,
If you plan your genealogical pilgrimage to Krakow between now and October 28, let me know your exact dates and I will write you which programs of the Month of Jewish Culture organized by the Judaica Foundation and the Center of Jewish Culture you'll have a chance to attend. The Jewish quarter of Krakow has its Local Monthly "Kazimierz", which now appears also in English, I think every second month. The address is: Kazimierz Local Office, 31-560 Krakow, ul. Jozefa 7, tel/fax (12) 430-65-03. To those who inquired how to make a contribution to Judaica Foundation in Krakow, contact me privately for further information at jassep@tdbank.ca. Please do if you can. Thanks, Peter Jassem jassep@tdbank.ca Toronto, Ontario
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Krakow events.
#galicia
Peter Jassem <jassep@...>
Dear Galizianers,
If you plan your genealogical pilgrimage to Krakow between now and October 28, let me know your exact dates and I will write you which programs of the Month of Jewish Culture organized by the Judaica Foundation and the Center of Jewish Culture you'll have a chance to attend. The Jewish quarter of Krakow has its Local Monthly "Kazimierz", which now appears also in English, I think every second month. The address is: Kazimierz Local Office, 31-560 Krakow, ul. Jozefa 7, tel/fax (12) 430-65-03. To those who inquired how to make a contribution to Judaica Foundation in Krakow, contact me privately for further information at jassep@tdbank.ca. Please do if you can. Thanks, Peter Jassem jassep@tdbank.ca Toronto, Ontario
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Great News for Researchers in East Galicia (Tarnopol area in particular)
#galicia
Willie46@...
Khag Sameakh! Just prior to Rosh Hashanah, Stanley Diamond, Project
Coordinator for Jewish Records Indexing - Poland announced an exciting new project to index vital records for 82 towns in East Galicia that are maintained in the AGAD Archives in Warsaw. Those Galitzianers with ancestors >from West Galicia are already very familiar with the JRI-Poland database of vital record indices. Now Galitzianers with ancestors >from the current Ukrainian section of East Galicia will have access to indices of those 19th Century records that reside in the AGAD Branch of the Polish State Archives. East Galician researchers already know that the LDS Church has never microfilmed these record registers. The AGAD Archives (The Central Archives of Historical Records) in Warsaw is the repository of more than 1,700 birth, marriage, and death registers for the area of the former Lwow, Stanislawow, and Tarnopol voivodships (now Lviv, Ivano Frankivsk, and Ternopil oblasts in Ukraine). The goal of this JRI-Poland project is to create online searchable indices to enable researchers to quickly locate records of potential interest. Researchers will then be able to order these records directly >from the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives using the order form linked to the search results. Details of this project are available at the JRI-Poland web site, AGAD Archives Page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/index.htm>. On this web page is also a map of the region. The red circles on the map group towns into seven separate indexing regions. This map was prepared by fellow Galitzianer Tom Weiss. There is also a link to a table that includes both the current and former (Polish) names of the towns and the records available for each town. These registers also include records for smaller towns in close proximity of those listed in the table. The first region within East Galicia to be indexed will be the area in the far Northeast of the former Austro-Hungarian Province of Galicia. The 13 towns in this region whose vital records will be indexed are: Brzezany Kozlow Kozowa Mikulince Narajow Podwoloczyska Skalat Strusow Tarnopol Trembowla Zalozce Zbaraz Zborow If your ancestral town does not appear above but is near one of these towns, don't be discouraged. The Jewish communities in many smaller towns near these 13 District and Sub-District towns of the former Galician Province of Austria were required to register their vital events in these 13 towns. This region has been designated as AGAD Region #1 or Tarnopol Region. Please refer to the map that has been posted on the JRI-Poland website at <http://jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/index.htm> for more details. The Tarnopol Region web page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/agad_tarnopol.htm> provides more information including the approximate number of vital records that will be indexed. I will be serving as Coordinator for the Tarnopol Region initiative. To make this initiative successful, we need volunteers to serve as Town Leaders for each of the 13 towns in this region. Each Town Leader will be responsible to raise the necessary funds to pay for the creation of the town's indices. If you are interested, please contact me at willie46@aol.com. This Initiative has already gained momentum. The AGAD Archives staff has commenced indexing of Tarnopol birth registers. About 6,000 of the 16,710 birth records for Tarnopol have now been indexed. Information about how you can help make this project successful can be found on the Tarnopol Region web page. These indices will not be loaded to the JRI-Poland database until certain fundraising goals have been achieved. As work on Region #1 progresses, JRI-Poland will announce plans for expanding the initiative and will then invite interested researchers to volunteer to be Regional Archive Coordinators for other Regions of the AGAD Archives project. To be kept up-to-date, subscribe to the JRI-Poland Mailing List. Instructions for joining these lists can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm. Please join me in thanking Steve Zedeck, Michael Tobias, Stanley Diamond, the Polish State Archives, and all the volunteers that have made this project possible. Mark Halpern Tarnopol Region AGAD Archive Coordinator JRI-Poland
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Great News for Researchers in East Galicia (Tarnopol area in particular)
#galicia
Willie46@...
Khag Sameakh! Just prior to Rosh Hashanah, Stanley Diamond, Project
Coordinator for Jewish Records Indexing - Poland announced an exciting new project to index vital records for 82 towns in East Galicia that are maintained in the AGAD Archives in Warsaw. Those Galitzianers with ancestors >from West Galicia are already very familiar with the JRI-Poland database of vital record indices. Now Galitzianers with ancestors >from the current Ukrainian section of East Galicia will have access to indices of those 19th Century records that reside in the AGAD Branch of the Polish State Archives. East Galician researchers already know that the LDS Church has never microfilmed these record registers. The AGAD Archives (The Central Archives of Historical Records) in Warsaw is the repository of more than 1,700 birth, marriage, and death registers for the area of the former Lwow, Stanislawow, and Tarnopol voivodships (now Lviv, Ivano Frankivsk, and Ternopil oblasts in Ukraine). The goal of this JRI-Poland project is to create online searchable indices to enable researchers to quickly locate records of potential interest. Researchers will then be able to order these records directly >from the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives using the order form linked to the search results. Details of this project are available at the JRI-Poland web site, AGAD Archives Page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/index.htm>. On this web page is also a map of the region. The red circles on the map group towns into seven separate indexing regions. This map was prepared by fellow Galitzianer Tom Weiss. There is also a link to a table that includes both the current and former (Polish) names of the towns and the records available for each town. These registers also include records for smaller towns in close proximity of those listed in the table. The first region within East Galicia to be indexed will be the area in the far Northeast of the former Austro-Hungarian Province of Galicia. The 13 towns in this region whose vital records will be indexed are: Brzezany Kozlow Kozowa Mikulince Narajow Podwoloczyska Skalat Strusow Tarnopol Trembowla Zalozce Zbaraz Zborow If your ancestral town does not appear above but is near one of these towns, don't be discouraged. The Jewish communities in many smaller towns near these 13 District and Sub-District towns of the former Galician Province of Austria were required to register their vital events in these 13 towns. This region has been designated as AGAD Region #1 or Tarnopol Region. Please refer to the map that has been posted on the JRI-Poland website at <http://jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/index.htm> for more details. The Tarnopol Region web page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/agad/agad_tarnopol.htm> provides more information including the approximate number of vital records that will be indexed. I will be serving as Coordinator for the Tarnopol Region initiative. To make this initiative successful, we need volunteers to serve as Town Leaders for each of the 13 towns in this region. Each Town Leader will be responsible to raise the necessary funds to pay for the creation of the town's indices. If you are interested, please contact me at willie46@aol.com. This Initiative has already gained momentum. The AGAD Archives staff has commenced indexing of Tarnopol birth registers. About 6,000 of the 16,710 birth records for Tarnopol have now been indexed. Information about how you can help make this project successful can be found on the Tarnopol Region web page. These indices will not be loaded to the JRI-Poland database until certain fundraising goals have been achieved. As work on Region #1 progresses, JRI-Poland will announce plans for expanding the initiative and will then invite interested researchers to volunteer to be Regional Archive Coordinators for other Regions of the AGAD Archives project. To be kept up-to-date, subscribe to the JRI-Poland Mailing List. Instructions for joining these lists can be found at http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv/sigs.htm. Please join me in thanking Steve Zedeck, Michael Tobias, Stanley Diamond, the Polish State Archives, and all the volunteers that have made this project possible. Mark Halpern Tarnopol Region AGAD Archive Coordinator JRI-Poland
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