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Re: Gravestones in London #general

mpfreed28315861@...
 

annette reilly <reillytribe@...> wrote:
My G/Grandfather is buried at Edmonton, I have yet to
get to London to see his grave but having spoken in
depth on the phone I was given what was written on the
head stone and this doesn't seem to include any
hebrew. He was buried in 1945.
If so it must be one of a handful in an Orthodox cemetery containing
40,000 graves.

Murray Freedman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Gravestones in London #general

mpfreed28315861@...
 

annette reilly <reillytribe@...> wrote:
My G/Grandfather is buried at Edmonton, I have yet to
get to London to see his grave but having spoken in
depth on the phone I was given what was written on the
head stone and this doesn't seem to include any
hebrew. He was buried in 1945.
If so it must be one of a handful in an Orthodox cemetery containing
40,000 graves.

Murray Freedman


Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Udi Cain
 

Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?
Dear George.

Ozer / Ezer, derives >from the Hebrew meaning of Helper. Usher in English
is also a kind of helper, who helps people finding their way. But the name
is Asher, which means: Which; Who. Or Osher, which means: Happiness etc.

Regards. Udi Cain.


Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

From: <Grf100@...>
Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?
Dear George,
Ejzer {meaning help in Hebrew) and Ojzer are the same name, spelled
different. Usher is the hebrew Asher (meaning blessed or fortunate), but
with an Askenazi prononciation.
Alter Ophir


Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

"Uscher" looks like a Yiddish dialectical variant of Osher, which might
account for "Ojzer." I don't know about "Ejzer," and in general I can't
place the digraph "jz." It's not in German, Polish, or Hungarian. Perhaps
it's a clumsy transliteration of a Yiddish phoneme, oyts or eits.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:44:23 EDT Grf100@... writes:

Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Udi Cain
 

Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?
Dear George.

Ozer / Ezer, derives >from the Hebrew meaning of Helper. Usher in English
is also a kind of helper, who helps people finding their way. But the name
is Asher, which means: Which; Who. Or Osher, which means: Happiness etc.

Regards. Udi Cain.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

From: <Grf100@...>
Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?
Dear George,
Ejzer {meaning help in Hebrew) and Ojzer are the same name, spelled
different. Usher is the hebrew Asher (meaning blessed or fortunate), but
with an Askenazi prononciation.
Alter Ophir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same name as Uscher? #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

"Uscher" looks like a Yiddish dialectical variant of Osher, which might
account for "Ojzer." I don't know about "Ejzer," and in general I can't
place the digraph "jz." It's not in German, Polish, or Hungarian. Perhaps
it's a clumsy transliteration of a Yiddish phoneme, oyts or eits.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:44:23 EDT Grf100@... writes:

Hello, I found some records for Ojzer Bleich and Ejzer Bleich. My
great-grandfather was Uscher Bleich. Is Ojzer and Ejzer the same
name as Uscher?


Looking for Researcher in Iasi, Romania #general

Steve Fantle <steven.c.fantle@...>
 

I'm trying to find information about my grandmother's family, who came
to the US >from Iasi, Romania in the 1880s. Does anyone know of someone
who is able to locate records there?

Steve Fantle
Bellevue, WA
sfantle101@...

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for Researcher in Iasi, Romania #general

Steve Fantle <steven.c.fantle@...>
 

I'm trying to find information about my grandmother's family, who came
to the US >from Iasi, Romania in the 1880s. Does anyone know of someone
who is able to locate records there?

Steve Fantle
Bellevue, WA
sfantle101@...

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testimonials for researchers.


Re: Given name translation - Itke #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Itka is a Russianization of the Yiddish Itta or Etta. Edith is, of
course, English. Jews mostly chose vernacular names based on assonance
with--rather than a translation of--their given Hebrew or Yiddish names.
E.g., in Russia Osher often became Ossip, even though the latter is east
Slavic for Yosef, not Asher. In Germany Osher often became Oskar; again
for purely assonant reasons.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:28:6 -0400 "Maybug" <maybug@...> writes:

Are there other possiblities? I've an otherwise unidentified Itka on
my list as a sister of Edith and Etta. Could Itka be the same as
either Edith or Etta?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name translation - Itke #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Itka is a Russianization of the Yiddish Itta or Etta. Edith is, of
course, English. Jews mostly chose vernacular names based on assonance
with--rather than a translation of--their given Hebrew or Yiddish names.
E.g., in Russia Osher often became Ossip, even though the latter is east
Slavic for Yosef, not Asher. In Germany Osher often became Oskar; again
for purely assonant reasons.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:28:6 -0400 "Maybug" <maybug@...> writes:

Are there other possiblities? I've an otherwise unidentified Itka on
my list as a sister of Edith and Etta. Could Itka be the same as
either Edith or Etta?


Re: Alternatives of the name "Chonan" #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Khonan or Khanan is an Aramaic name taken >from the Talmud. (Several of
the sages bore that name.) It has nothing to do with Solomon (Shlomo,
Zalman). "Khone" might be a nickname for Khonon. A late friend of mine
from Vilna bore Khanan as his shem kodesh ("Charles" in English), and his
wife called him "Khan."

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...> writes:
I am tracing a Litvak family member who lived in the Vilna area in
the mid 1850's. As listed on his daughter's death certificate, his
first name was "Chonan." I have found a record that lists a "Khone"
with the same surname (Ryndzium). Would "Khone" be a reasonable
equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance that either would be equivalent
to "Solomon"? Any help would be grealty appreciated.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Alternatives of the name "Chonan" #general

Norman H. Carp-Gordon <zerakodesh@...>
 

Khonan or Khanan is an Aramaic name taken >from the Talmud. (Several of
the sages bore that name.) It has nothing to do with Solomon (Shlomo,
Zalman). "Khone" might be a nickname for Khonon. A late friend of mine
from Vilna bore Khanan as his shem kodesh ("Charles" in English), and his
wife called him "Khan."

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...> writes:
I am tracing a Litvak family member who lived in the Vilna area in
the mid 1850's. As listed on his daughter's death certificate, his
first name was "Chonan." I have found a record that lists a "Khone"
with the same surname (Ryndzium). Would "Khone" be a reasonable
equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance that either would be equivalent
to "Solomon"? Any help would be grealty appreciated.


Naming of Child #general

Hendlisz Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Is it possible that in the same family, the parents having lost a child,
aged 2, give the same first name to a baby, ten years later.
I have always thought that such practice was not in use, the main reason
being that this could not "mazeldig" for the child.
I've found two death certificate (1819 and 1833) in my family with the same
given name Mosiek and I was wandering if it was not a mistake of the Polish
clerk who did not understood. Thanks for any advice.

Gilbert Hendlisz
Brussels Belgium
#43912


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naming of Child #general

Hendlisz Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Is it possible that in the same family, the parents having lost a child,
aged 2, give the same first name to a baby, ten years later.
I have always thought that such practice was not in use, the main reason
being that this could not "mazeldig" for the child.
I've found two death certificate (1819 and 1833) in my family with the same
given name Mosiek and I was wandering if it was not a mistake of the Polish
clerk who did not understood. Thanks for any advice.

Gilbert Hendlisz
Brussels Belgium
#43912


Re: A lack of Hebrew on gravestones in London - how strange! #general

Steve Levine <gen_news@...>
 

I've seen a number of Jewish gravestones with English on one face and
Hebrew on the other. On the first such occasion, it was by dumb luck
that I happened to look on the back of the stone.

Steve Levine
W. Hartford, CT


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A lack of Hebrew on gravestones in London - how strange! #general

Steve Levine <gen_news@...>
 

I've seen a number of Jewish gravestones with English on one face and
Hebrew on the other. On the first such occasion, it was by dumb luck
that I happened to look on the back of the stone.

Steve Levine
W. Hartford, CT


Re: Tribe of Moshe Katsav #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear Colin.

Your question can lead to "mine field".
The conservative way of dealing with the bible, states that there is no
knowledge with regard to the "ten lost tribes", and the Jewish people of
today are mainly >from the tribes of Judea and Benjamin, plus Levi and
remains of other tribes.
The new elected president of Israel is one of our brothers who came
from Iran.
Regards. Udi Cain.


Re: Israel Genealogical Society- Jerusalem Branch meeting #general

Carol Raspler
 

Please don't automatically delete the announcement for the IGS meeting
Mathilde Tagger announced for Jerusalem today (it has probably already
taken place). Let's - all of us - try to absorb all the implications of
something as simple as a genealogical society gathering in that city
- at this time.
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL

Mathilde Tagger wrote:>
Dear All, This is to inform you about the: Israel Genealogical Society -
Jerusalem Branch program of meeting Tuesday, October 24, 2000, at 19:30 >