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Re: The name Bashe or Basha
#general
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
In my experience I have found Bashe to be a women's name, although
I have come across a Bushy or Bushinkel as a nickname for a youngest child who was a boy. Abraham J. Heschel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Bashe or Basha
#general
Brandler Institute of Chasidic Thought <bict@...>
In my experience I have found Bashe to be a women's name, although
I have come across a Bushy or Bushinkel as a nickname for a youngest child who was a boy. Abraham J. Heschel
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Zhitomer testimonies at Yad V'Shem
#ukraine
Gilda and Bob Kurtzman <gildak@...>
I got the names >from the Beit Volin library in Givatayim which is a branch of Yad
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V'Shem. They told me that in order to access the names we would have to go to the Yad V'Shem ARCHIVES (and not the library). Since we live in Israel the librarian at Beit Volin did not tell me how to access them by internet. First, I suggest you try to find the website for Yad V'Shem and see if the testimonies in the archives can be ordered by internet. Second, if not, please let me know. Although we do not plan to go to the Archives in the near future because we have already spent some time at the library and we don't live in Petach Tikva, there is a possibility that at some future date we will be able to get there. I am not looking for myself but was looking for Mickey Freedman who has done me a few favors in the US and I found the material he needed at Beit Volin. But, my husband is looking for background material on his town and was told to look at the testimonies so I think he will go up there sometime over the winter (and to visit the grandchildren). The testimonies *might* be in Hebrew or Yiddish. Do you read either? Right now the information on Zhitomer we got for Mickey is in Hebrew and we are going to have to sit down and translate it all for him. Before I came on aliyah in 1972, I lived in Far Rockaway. Almost neighbors! Gilda Kurtzman gildak@zahav.net.il Petach Tikva, Israel -->The above list has some interest to me since it includes a Rotenberg -
which is how my grandfather spelled his name on some documents and he camefrom a town a few miles >from Zhitomir . How do I access Rachel Rotenbergand where can I access her statement?
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Re: TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN
#ukraine
Bronstein Family <sygaa@...>
8 Heshvan 5761
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Monday, November 06, 2000 Dear All & especially to all the BRONSTEIN's: In 1971, The Jewish Publication Society published the book "Trotsky and the Jews" by Joseph Nedava. It contains numerous quotes >from Trotsky's book My Life. I am sure that the book is long out of print & I don't know how easy it will be to find in libraries. Of special interest to genealogists may be the following: page 28 - "My father, David Leonteivich BRONSTEIN, was a farmer [Trotsky wrote in his autobiography]. As a little boy, he had left with his parents the Jewish town in the province of Poltava, where he had been born, when they went to seek their fortune on the free steppes of the South. There were at that time about forty Jewish agricultural colonies in the provinces of Kherson and Ekaterinoslav, with a total population of about 25,000 souls." Nedava adds, "When the Jews were expelled >from the villages (for under the 1804 statute, one regulation expelled Jews >from the villages while another invited them to till the soil), many families answered the call. Within fifty years three successive waves of would-be settlers moved to the south. The BRONSTEIN family must have participated in the second migration, sometime in the 1830's. Some of the villages were given Hebrew names: Seidemenuka (Field of Rest), Nahartav (Good River), Yefenahar (Fair River.)" There is not much more about his early years. One other memorable quote in the book which I heard many years before the book came out is found on page 167: "When in 1921 the chief rabbi of Moscow, Rabbi Jacob Maze, appeared before TROTSKY to plead for the Russian Jews. TROTSKY was reputed to have answered him, as he had done on various previous occasions, that he was a Bolshevik revolutionary and did not consider himself a Jew. To this Rabbi Maze replied: "The TROTSKYs make the revolutions, and the BRONSTEINs pay the bills."" A few years back Commentary magazine carried an article about some of TROTSKY's descendants. One of his great-grandsons is a frum Jew living in Kiryat Arba a suburb of Hebron. Shalom BRONSTEIN, Jerusalem Researching - SHULMAN/SHILLMAN - Panevezys; BLOCH - Krekanava (Lithania); the DIMMERMAN, BECK & GELMAN families >from Ostrog & vicinity (Volhyn); BRONSTEIN, BROWNSTEIN, RUNSTEIN, ROCHMANN - Kishinev (Moldava); GOLDSTEIN - Iasi (Romania) - those who came to America all settled in Philadelphia; GOLDZWEIG & LETZTER - Cholojow/Uzlovoye (Eastern Galicia/Ukraine) Original Messages From: Max Stool [mailto:makstool@delrio.com] Subject: [ukraine] Re: TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN Dennis, I read with interest your posting. My mother, who came from Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, told me that her mother's family name was BRONSTEIN and that was TROTSKY's name before he changed it. Max Stool Del Rio, TX From: <Pharmer329@aol.com> Subject: [ukraine] TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN
"Dear Udi, Dennis BROWN (BRONSTEIN)
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Zhitomer testimonies at Yad V'Shem
#ukraine
Gilda and Bob Kurtzman <gildak@...>
I got the names >from the Beit Volin library in Givatayim which is a branch of Yad
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
V'Shem. They told me that in order to access the names we would have to go to the Yad V'Shem ARCHIVES (and not the library). Since we live in Israel the librarian at Beit Volin did not tell me how to access them by internet. First, I suggest you try to find the website for Yad V'Shem and see if the testimonies in the archives can be ordered by internet. Second, if not, please let me know. Although we do not plan to go to the Archives in the near future because we have already spent some time at the library and we don't live in Petach Tikva, there is a possibility that at some future date we will be able to get there. I am not looking for myself but was looking for Mickey Freedman who has done me a few favors in the US and I found the material he needed at Beit Volin. But, my husband is looking for background material on his town and was told to look at the testimonies so I think he will go up there sometime over the winter (and to visit the grandchildren). The testimonies *might* be in Hebrew or Yiddish. Do you read either? Right now the information on Zhitomer we got for Mickey is in Hebrew and we are going to have to sit down and translate it all for him. Before I came on aliyah in 1972, I lived in Far Rockaway. Almost neighbors! Gilda Kurtzman gildak@zahav.net.il Petach Tikva, Israel -->The above list has some interest to me since it includes a Rotenberg -
which is how my grandfather spelled his name on some documents and he camefrom a town a few miles >from Zhitomir . How do I access Rachel Rotenbergand where can I access her statement?
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN
#ukraine
Bronstein Family <sygaa@...>
8 Heshvan 5761
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Monday, November 06, 2000 Dear All & especially to all the BRONSTEIN's: In 1971, The Jewish Publication Society published the book "Trotsky and the Jews" by Joseph Nedava. It contains numerous quotes >from Trotsky's book My Life. I am sure that the book is long out of print & I don't know how easy it will be to find in libraries. Of special interest to genealogists may be the following: page 28 - "My father, David Leonteivich BRONSTEIN, was a farmer [Trotsky wrote in his autobiography]. As a little boy, he had left with his parents the Jewish town in the province of Poltava, where he had been born, when they went to seek their fortune on the free steppes of the South. There were at that time about forty Jewish agricultural colonies in the provinces of Kherson and Ekaterinoslav, with a total population of about 25,000 souls." Nedava adds, "When the Jews were expelled >from the villages (for under the 1804 statute, one regulation expelled Jews >from the villages while another invited them to till the soil), many families answered the call. Within fifty years three successive waves of would-be settlers moved to the south. The BRONSTEIN family must have participated in the second migration, sometime in the 1830's. Some of the villages were given Hebrew names: Seidemenuka (Field of Rest), Nahartav (Good River), Yefenahar (Fair River.)" There is not much more about his early years. One other memorable quote in the book which I heard many years before the book came out is found on page 167: "When in 1921 the chief rabbi of Moscow, Rabbi Jacob Maze, appeared before TROTSKY to plead for the Russian Jews. TROTSKY was reputed to have answered him, as he had done on various previous occasions, that he was a Bolshevik revolutionary and did not consider himself a Jew. To this Rabbi Maze replied: "The TROTSKYs make the revolutions, and the BRONSTEINs pay the bills."" A few years back Commentary magazine carried an article about some of TROTSKY's descendants. One of his great-grandsons is a frum Jew living in Kiryat Arba a suburb of Hebron. Shalom BRONSTEIN, Jerusalem Researching - SHULMAN/SHILLMAN - Panevezys; BLOCH - Krekanava (Lithania); the DIMMERMAN, BECK & GELMAN families >from Ostrog & vicinity (Volhyn); BRONSTEIN, BROWNSTEIN, RUNSTEIN, ROCHMANN - Kishinev (Moldava); GOLDSTEIN - Iasi (Romania) - those who came to America all settled in Philadelphia; GOLDZWEIG & LETZTER - Cholojow/Uzlovoye (Eastern Galicia/Ukraine) Original Messages From: Max Stool [mailto:makstool@delrio.com] Subject: [ukraine] Re: TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN Dennis, I read with interest your posting. My mother, who came from Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, told me that her mother's family name was BRONSTEIN and that was TROTSKY's name before he changed it. Max Stool Del Rio, TX From: <Pharmer329@aol.com> Subject: [ukraine] TROTSKY AS BRONSTEIN
"Dear Udi, Dennis BROWN (BRONSTEIN)
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Re: Re Yelisevetgrad
#ukraine
Howard Bensen <aj680@...>
HELENHARV@aol.com wrote:
Recently, Dmitry wrote about Yelisevetgrad and said the place wasYou've probably received a ton of answers by now, since I'm a little late in reading my email. I had a similar proplem with a place spelled either Gorodishche or Horodishche. I finally concluded that a Cyrillic equivalent to "G" is pronounced as "H". If you receive any more scientific explanation, please forward a copy to me. Howard Bensen Woodland Hills, CA
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Re Yelisevetgrad
#ukraine
Howard Bensen <aj680@...>
HELENHARV@aol.com wrote:
Recently, Dmitry wrote about Yelisevetgrad and said the place wasYou've probably received a ton of answers by now, since I'm a little late in reading my email. I had a similar proplem with a place spelled either Gorodishche or Horodishche. I finally concluded that a Cyrillic equivalent to "G" is pronounced as "H". If you receive any more scientific explanation, please forward a copy to me. Howard Bensen Woodland Hills, CA
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Re: Samgorodok
#ukraine
NFatouros@...
In his messages of September 28,2000 and of November 5,2000, Len Chernos
asked about "Samgorodok." In the earlier of the two he wrote that his research had found three Samgorodoks. My 1962 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer has an entry for only one Samgorodok. It says only of the town that in 1926 it had a population of 4,221, is (or was?) in the North Vinnitsa oblast,is 25 miles northeast of Vinnitsa, and is noted for metalworks and kaolin. Without more hints >from his family history, I don't know how Mr. Chernos can determine whether the C-L entry is the right Samgorodok. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@aol.com Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse.
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Samgorodok
#ukraine
NFatouros@...
In his messages of September 28,2000 and of November 5,2000, Len Chernos
asked about "Samgorodok." In the earlier of the two he wrote that his research had found three Samgorodoks. My 1962 Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer has an entry for only one Samgorodok. It says only of the town that in 1926 it had a population of 4,221, is (or was?) in the North Vinnitsa oblast,is 25 miles northeast of Vinnitsa, and is noted for metalworks and kaolin. Without more hints >from his family history, I don't know how Mr. Chernos can determine whether the C-L entry is the right Samgorodok. Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN) Bloomington, Indiana NFatouros@aol.com Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ, Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse.
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Miriam Weiner's book
#poland
bobroth1@...
Ellen in Casselberry, FL mentioned that she found out >from Miriam
Weiner's book that only 2-3 Jewish families were living in Bielcza at the time of the Shoah. Can someone answer the following: 1) What is Miriam Weiner's book and how can it be found? 2) I would like to obtain similar information for the town of Ostashin, Belarus. Would Miriam Weiner's book cover Belarus? Thanks to all for your help. Bob Roth bobroth1@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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JRI Poland #Poland Miriam Weiner's book
#poland
bobroth1@...
Ellen in Casselberry, FL mentioned that she found out >from Miriam
Weiner's book that only 2-3 Jewish families were living in Bielcza at the time of the Shoah. Can someone answer the following: 1) What is Miriam Weiner's book and how can it be found? 2) I would like to obtain similar information for the town of Ostashin, Belarus. Would Miriam Weiner's book cover Belarus? Thanks to all for your help. Bob Roth bobroth1@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
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Re: Starting out
#ukraine
David Cantor <David@...>
Greetings >from England
Having just embarked on researching my ancestory I have been fascinated by the messages sent via the Ukraine SIG. Being a 'mischling'I can relate very much to Paula Gowans in Australia and the difficulties posed by having Jewish and non-Jewish parentage. The matter has also been made more difficult by a 'mini diaspora' during WW11 when many people were evacuated to country areas to avoid the bombs falling on London. Anyhow, my Grandmother nee Sarah SCHWARTZ came >from Sigivka (now Dzgivka) near Yampol on the Dneister river. My grandfather Philip(aka Pina?)CANTOR the family legend has it was >from Kiev, that's all I know. Date of arrival in England unknown. If anybody has information about Sigivka or can offer advice, it would be much appreciated. Good luck in your quests David Cantor david@barwell.co.uk
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE:Starting out
#ukraine
David Cantor <David@...>
Greetings >from England
Having just embarked on researching my ancestory I have been fascinated by the messages sent via the Ukraine SIG. Being a 'mischling'I can relate very much to Paula Gowans in Australia and the difficulties posed by having Jewish and non-Jewish parentage. The matter has also been made more difficult by a 'mini diaspora' during WW11 when many people were evacuated to country areas to avoid the bombs falling on London. Anyhow, my Grandmother nee Sarah SCHWARTZ came >from Sigivka (now Dzgivka) near Yampol on the Dneister river. My grandfather Philip(aka Pina?)CANTOR the family legend has it was >from Kiev, that's all I know. Date of arrival in England unknown. If anybody has information about Sigivka or can offer advice, it would be much appreciated. Good luck in your quests David Cantor david@barwell.co.uk
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Myaskofka, Russia
#general
David & Diana Goldenberg <danddgoldenberg@...>
Dear Genners-
I am seeking help in locating Myaskofka, Russia. I managed to obtain the Petition for Naturalization belonging to my grandfather, Abraham David Goldenberg. He arrived in NY 10/13/03, on the Vaderland. He listed Myaskofka as his place of birth. Any help would be appreciated. David Goldenberg Milwaukee, WI
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Regarding Jewish Communal Register
#general
marshall shapiro <mkshapiro@...>
I recently posted a message about the jewish communal
register and made an error. My grandfather, the barber, is Jacob Epstein, not Shapiro. My grandfather the butcher was Julius Shapiro. Sorry for the confusion. Marshall Shapiro mkshapiro@hotmail.com
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Social Security Death Index
#general
Roberta Berman <danber@...>
I sent away for 4 SS-5's in July. Within a month, I received 3 of
them. The last one has not arrived as yet and I think my request must have gotten lost somewhere. I mailed the 4 requests in 4 separate envelopes with 4 separate letters and 4 separate checks to: SSA, Office of Central Records Operations, Attention: FOIA Workgroup, PO Box 17772, 300 N. Greene St., Baltimore, MD 21290. I am having difficulty locating a telephone number so I can find out where the missing SS-5 is. I called the 800 information number, but they were unable to find a phone number for that office. Does anyone have the phone number? TIA, Roberta Wagner Berman San Diego, CA
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The name Bashe or Basha
#general
AIChernoff@...
Would anyone know whether the name Basha or Bashe was generally a man's
name? The individual bearing this name came >from Belarus in the early 1900's. Thanks Amoz Chernoff Potomac, MD
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Myaskofka, Russia
#general
David & Diana Goldenberg <danddgoldenberg@...>
Dear Genners-
I am seeking help in locating Myaskofka, Russia. I managed to obtain the Petition for Naturalization belonging to my grandfather, Abraham David Goldenberg. He arrived in NY 10/13/03, on the Vaderland. He listed Myaskofka as his place of birth. Any help would be appreciated. David Goldenberg Milwaukee, WI
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Regarding Jewish Communal Register
#general
marshall shapiro <mkshapiro@...>
I recently posted a message about the jewish communal
register and made an error. My grandfather, the barber, is Jacob Epstein, not Shapiro. My grandfather the butcher was Julius Shapiro. Sorry for the confusion. Marshall Shapiro mkshapiro@hotmail.com
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