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Berdichev Yizkor Book #ukraine

Steven J. Rosen
 

To Berdichev researchers:
Previously unknown to me, and I suspect to many of you, there is a yizkor
book for Berdichev, in the form of a special issue of a serial publication.
I obtained it today. It is 65 pages, and seems to include some family
histories, but not so far as I can tell a list. It is in Hebrew, which, to
my shame, I am unable to read. I would like to hear >from anyone who is
willing to play a role in translation. I will be happy to provide copies.
--Steve Rosen, Bethesda, Maryland
Rosen20817@aol.com
Researching ROYZENTUR (Rosenthal) and BABCHUK (Vovchik) in Odessa and
Berdichev


Berdichev Yizkor Book
a special Berdichev issue of
Yalkut Volin: osef zikhronot u-teudot [Anthology of Volynia; collection of
memoirs and documents],
Tel Aviv, 1951
vol. 2, nos 12-13.
In Hebrew
Listed in Bibliography of Memorial Book for Jewish Communities in Soviet
Belorussia and SovietUkraine, in "The Holocaust In The Soviet Union."(1993)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Berdichev Yizkor Book #ukraine

Steven J. Rosen
 

To Berdichev researchers:
Previously unknown to me, and I suspect to many of you, there is a yizkor
book for Berdichev, in the form of a special issue of a serial publication.
I obtained it today. It is 65 pages, and seems to include some family
histories, but not so far as I can tell a list. It is in Hebrew, which, to
my shame, I am unable to read. I would like to hear >from anyone who is
willing to play a role in translation. I will be happy to provide copies.
--Steve Rosen, Bethesda, Maryland
Rosen20817@aol.com
Researching ROYZENTUR (Rosenthal) and BABCHUK (Vovchik) in Odessa and
Berdichev


Berdichev Yizkor Book
a special Berdichev issue of
Yalkut Volin: osef zikhronot u-teudot [Anthology of Volynia; collection of
memoirs and documents],
Tel Aviv, 1951
vol. 2, nos 12-13.
In Hebrew
Listed in Bibliography of Memorial Book for Jewish Communities in Soviet
Belorussia and SovietUkraine, in "The Holocaust In The Soviet Union."(1993)


Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.

The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was the
year of the progrom.

Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?

Shmuel Fisher


Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

TerryOstrach <terryostrach@...>
 

You're so fortunate to have this information. Most of it is lost to other
families who have no idea where to begin looking for relatives.

If it's possible, you might try phoning first. I did both letters and phone
calls, and the phone calls worked best, especially when you consider that
these people are probably advanced in years. If the people you intend to
contact are in their 70s or 80s, they may rather talking than doing the
boring task of writing. In my experience, the older the person I contacted
by phone, the more information they gave me. I'd have nothing about my
husband's family at all if I hadn't made a phone call to his 82 year old
aunt who was so thrilled to receive the call, she invited me to call back
regularly. Same with a 90 year old. In fact, both of them gave me
anecdotes that were wonderful for the family history.

One thing you may not have considered. Start first with your own brothers
and sisters and ask them what they remember your own parents telling telling
them. I found that my brother, being 7 years older than I, had an entirely
different set of memories about the stories our father told him.

Good luck,


Terry {Ostrach}

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.
I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.

The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was the
year of the progrom.

Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?

Shmuel Fisher


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

TerryOstrach <terryostrach@...>
 

You're so fortunate to have this information. Most of it is lost to other
families who have no idea where to begin looking for relatives.

If it's possible, you might try phoning first. I did both letters and phone
calls, and the phone calls worked best, especially when you consider that
these people are probably advanced in years. If the people you intend to
contact are in their 70s or 80s, they may rather talking than doing the
boring task of writing. In my experience, the older the person I contacted
by phone, the more information they gave me. I'd have nothing about my
husband's family at all if I hadn't made a phone call to his 82 year old
aunt who was so thrilled to receive the call, she invited me to call back
regularly. Same with a 90 year old. In fact, both of them gave me
anecdotes that were wonderful for the family history.

One thing you may not have considered. Start first with your own brothers
and sisters and ask them what they remember your own parents telling telling
them. I found that my brother, being 7 years older than I, had an entirely
different set of memories about the stories our father told him.

Good luck,


Terry {Ostrach}

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.
I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.


Barnet RABINOWITZ #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for the birthplace of the following individual who is buried
in the Kupishok, Lithuania plot in Union Fields Cemetery in New York:

Barnet (Berel) ben Daniel RABINOWITZ
Born 1875, Lithuania
Came to America 1893
Married Gussie
Died 1955, Brooklyn
Daughter Rose Siskind

I don't believe he was >from Kupishok. I would also like to know his
mother's family name too.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barnet RABINOWITZ #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for the birthplace of the following individual who is buried
in the Kupishok, Lithuania plot in Union Fields Cemetery in New York:

Barnet (Berel) ben Daniel RABINOWITZ
Born 1875, Lithuania
Came to America 1893
Married Gussie
Died 1955, Brooklyn
Daughter Rose Siskind

I don't believe he was >from Kupishok. I would also like to know his
mother's family name too.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Family Histories #general

DanRCav@...
 

I have completed my family history and published copies for the Library of
Congress. Can anyone tell me what other important places I should send a copy
to?

Dan R. Cavalier
danrcav@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: If you have not already done so, please submit
your family tree to FTJP ( Family Tree of the Jewish People) at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/ >. Also, within the JG website
there are different ways of having your material posted for all to
see. For details, please contact Carol Skydell, JG Vice President
for Operations at: < cskydell@jewishgen.org >


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family Histories #general

DanRCav@...
 

I have completed my family history and published copies for the Library of
Congress. Can anyone tell me what other important places I should send a copy
to?

Dan R. Cavalier
danrcav@aol.com

MODERATOR NOTE: If you have not already done so, please submit
your family tree to FTJP ( Family Tree of the Jewish People) at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/ >. Also, within the JG website
there are different ways of having your material posted for all to
see. For details, please contact Carol Skydell, JG Vice President
for Operations at: < cskydell@jewishgen.org >


EFROIKEN - South Africa #general

Roger Froikin <rlefraim@...>
 

Seeking anyone in South Africa who may have ancestors with the name EFROIKEN

Thanks.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EFROIKEN - South Africa #general

Roger Froikin <rlefraim@...>
 

Seeking anyone in South Africa who may have ancestors with the name EFROIKEN

Thanks.


Shprintsa : Etymology #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Ury Link was replying to Abraham Heschel about the name "Shprintsa". I
didn't immediately jump in because I am searching my mother's side of
family not father's side.

However my last name (and my dad's last name) is SPRINTZ. I've seen
this name and similarities in different books over the last few years
while doing research. I even found a Sprintz family in Ciechanow,
Poland, in the process of doing my _maternal) grandmother's family search.

My father was in Israel several years ago and went to the Diaspora
Museum (right?) to ask about our last name.

He was told that his family (>from Russia/Ukraine) had probably come
there >from Italy, were most likely Sephardic, and that the name was
originally Esperanza. This is apparently the Italian, and also Spanish,
for "Hope." A hopeful post this has been to you, I hope.

Lilli


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shprintsa : Etymology #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

Ury Link was replying to Abraham Heschel about the name "Shprintsa". I
didn't immediately jump in because I am searching my mother's side of
family not father's side.

However my last name (and my dad's last name) is SPRINTZ. I've seen
this name and similarities in different books over the last few years
while doing research. I even found a Sprintz family in Ciechanow,
Poland, in the process of doing my _maternal) grandmother's family search.

My father was in Israel several years ago and went to the Diaspora
Museum (right?) to ask about our last name.

He was told that his family (>from Russia/Ukraine) had probably come
there >from Italy, were most likely Sephardic, and that the name was
originally Esperanza. This is apparently the Italian, and also Spanish,
for "Hope." A hopeful post this has been to you, I hope.

Lilli


Bessarabia #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

To: Yoav Epelman

I, too, am looking for information on my grandfather and his family from
what was them called Bessarbia.

Actually, until a few months ago, I didn't know that the place >from which
my grandfather came was called "Bessarabia".

I had been looking for information about Kishinev, a town (capital)
originally of Romania, and then later a section of Romania taken over by
the USSR. Kishinev then became part of what is still called Moldava (or
Moldavia). My mother is the one who told me that years ago, that that
part of the world was also called Bessarabia.

My first suggestion would be to go back and find out which _town_ or city
your relatives were from. See if any of your family members have any hint at all.

I am sending you a couple web sites I quickly searched to find history
information and maps that might help you. The history web-site below
gives along explanation of that area of the work, and Bessarabia is
mentioned toward the bottom.

http://www.feefhs.org/ro/urs/hurs-chr.html

Next:

This next site is a map site. I picked out the specific map that had
Bessarabia in it. Late 1800's? Kind of hard to read, but it helps.

http://feefhs.org/maps/ruse/re-ukrai.html

This site hows one of several maps of that area in the world from, I
believe, 1892. If you look at it carefully, Bessarabia was this sliver
of land west of Podolia and Kherson. The city I mentioned before,
Kishinev, spelled Chisinau (I believe) in Romanian, is on the East side
of Bessarabia.

Bessarabia seems to have been what is now (or in part, now) part of
Moldava. It has lots of towns listed there. Perhaps you can use the
names of the town to do your research from, and find surnames you are
looking for associated with those towns.

Hope this helps.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@tc.umn.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bessarabia #general

Lilli Sprintz <spri0037@...>
 

To: Yoav Epelman

I, too, am looking for information on my grandfather and his family from
what was them called Bessarbia.

Actually, until a few months ago, I didn't know that the place >from which
my grandfather came was called "Bessarabia".

I had been looking for information about Kishinev, a town (capital)
originally of Romania, and then later a section of Romania taken over by
the USSR. Kishinev then became part of what is still called Moldava (or
Moldavia). My mother is the one who told me that years ago, that that
part of the world was also called Bessarabia.

My first suggestion would be to go back and find out which _town_ or city
your relatives were from. See if any of your family members have any hint at all.

I am sending you a couple web sites I quickly searched to find history
information and maps that might help you. The history web-site below
gives along explanation of that area of the work, and Bessarabia is
mentioned toward the bottom.

http://www.feefhs.org/ro/urs/hurs-chr.html

Next:

This next site is a map site. I picked out the specific map that had
Bessarabia in it. Late 1800's? Kind of hard to read, but it helps.

http://feefhs.org/maps/ruse/re-ukrai.html

This site hows one of several maps of that area in the world from, I
believe, 1892. If you look at it carefully, Bessarabia was this sliver
of land west of Podolia and Kherson. The city I mentioned before,
Kishinev, spelled Chisinau (I believe) in Romanian, is on the East side
of Bessarabia.

Bessarabia seems to have been what is now (or in part, now) part of
Moldava. It has lots of towns listed there. Perhaps you can use the
names of the town to do your research from, and find surnames you are
looking for associated with those towns.

Hope this helps.

Lilli Sprintz
email: spri0037@tc.umn.edu


Gravestone Inscription Help Needed #general

Udi Cain
 

Any idea what the following dates might be? All three
are >from the cemetery in Turku, Finland.

11 bet-khet-resh-shin-alef-kaf 5647
bet-vav shin-bet-vav-ayin-yod-mem 5645
mem-vav-tsadee'' yod-vav-kaf 5660

Thanks in advance,

Eric Adler
Dear Eric.

It seems that you got few letters wrong. I think that it can be:
11 of the month Av 1887.
In the age of Seventy 1885.
The conclusion of Yom Kipur 1900.

Regards. Udi Cain.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gravestone Inscription Help Needed #general

Udi Cain
 

Any idea what the following dates might be? All three
are >from the cemetery in Turku, Finland.

11 bet-khet-resh-shin-alef-kaf 5647
bet-vav shin-bet-vav-ayin-yod-mem 5645
mem-vav-tsadee'' yod-vav-kaf 5660

Thanks in advance,

Eric Adler
Dear Eric.

It seems that you got few letters wrong. I think that it can be:
11 of the month Av 1887.
In the age of Seventy 1885.
The conclusion of Yom Kipur 1900.

Regards. Udi Cain.


The _real_ Stritsivke? #general

Patti Couture <pjcouture@...>
 

Genners,
After submitting my request for someone researching in Stritsivke, I
looked hard in Where Once We Walked _and_ the Shtetl-Finder and cant
identify which shtetl might be Stritsivke. The shtetl name I have is from
a death certificate.

Any suggestions? The people are >from Ukraine, so I have eliminated those
shtetls which are Polish. Hope you can help.
Patti Couture, JGSGB Boston

For: PUSTILNIK and RUBINSTEIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The _real_ Stritsivke? #general

Patti Couture <pjcouture@...>
 

Genners,
After submitting my request for someone researching in Stritsivke, I
looked hard in Where Once We Walked _and_ the Shtetl-Finder and cant
identify which shtetl might be Stritsivke. The shtetl name I have is from
a death certificate.

Any suggestions? The people are >from Ukraine, so I have eliminated those
shtetls which are Polish. Hope you can help.
Patti Couture, JGSGB Boston

For: PUSTILNIK and RUBINSTEIN