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Deportation lists update #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

As I may have mentioned in a previous message, we have a team leader, Mark
Benisz, for the Szombathely deportation list.
I will be mailing him the material next week, and he will determine how many
volunteers he will need to complete the task. He will be contacting those of
you who have thankfully volunteered. At this time we still need a team
leader for the Debrecen list, and an additional two-three volunteers to
input the data. I would to thank all of you who have volunteered, and I
anxiously wait to hear >from the few additional volunteers still needed.

Louis Schonfeld
H-sig facilitator


Hungary SIG #Hungary Deportation lists update #hungary

Louis Schonfeld <Lmagyar@...>
 

As I may have mentioned in a previous message, we have a team leader, Mark
Benisz, for the Szombathely deportation list.
I will be mailing him the material next week, and he will determine how many
volunteers he will need to complete the task. He will be contacting those of
you who have thankfully volunteered. At this time we still need a team
leader for the Debrecen list, and an additional two-three volunteers to
input the data. I would to thank all of you who have volunteered, and I
anxiously wait to hear >from the few additional volunteers still needed.

Louis Schonfeld
H-sig facilitator


Mussida surname: jewish roots??? #general

Al G. M. <almucida@...>
 

Hello to all,

My name is Alvaro and I'm brazilian. Since I´m very interested in genealogy,
I have done some research about my roots. My greatfather was Italian and
his surname was MUSSIDA. I ended up getting to know some Italian relatives
and one of them is also interested in genealogy. He was able to build our
complete genealogical tree >from the 1600´s and the first record of our
family in Italy is >from the 1400´s. He told me that there´s a hipotesis
that the origin of the Mussida was the arrival in Italy of a person who
was >from Navarra, so possibly this person would have a surname which would
be Mussida or something like this (in my case, Italian Mussida turned into
Brazilian Mucida so another surname could have turned Mussida in Italy).

Since I have researched for a long time my roots in Italy, I simply dont
know where to start seeking Spanish / Sephardic surnames. I actually dont
have any concrete evidence that it might have a sephardic origin, but I
decided to try because of the meaningful presence of Jews in Spain in that
century.

So I would appreciate very much if :

1) Anyone could give me historical facts that support/deny the idea of
Jews >from Spain going to Italy in the XIV/XV centuries. What about Navarra,
is there any particular evidence there? Were there many Jews there?

2) Anyone know any sephardic surname that might sound similar to Mussida?
Does it sound to have a Jewish root?

I would appreciate any other tip/idea to help my research.

Best regards,

Alvaro Guimarães Mucida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mussida surname: jewish roots??? #general

Al G. M. <almucida@...>
 

Hello to all,

My name is Alvaro and I'm brazilian. Since I´m very interested in genealogy,
I have done some research about my roots. My greatfather was Italian and
his surname was MUSSIDA. I ended up getting to know some Italian relatives
and one of them is also interested in genealogy. He was able to build our
complete genealogical tree >from the 1600´s and the first record of our
family in Italy is >from the 1400´s. He told me that there´s a hipotesis
that the origin of the Mussida was the arrival in Italy of a person who
was >from Navarra, so possibly this person would have a surname which would
be Mussida or something like this (in my case, Italian Mussida turned into
Brazilian Mucida so another surname could have turned Mussida in Italy).

Since I have researched for a long time my roots in Italy, I simply dont
know where to start seeking Spanish / Sephardic surnames. I actually dont
have any concrete evidence that it might have a sephardic origin, but I
decided to try because of the meaningful presence of Jews in Spain in that
century.

So I would appreciate very much if :

1) Anyone could give me historical facts that support/deny the idea of
Jews >from Spain going to Italy in the XIV/XV centuries. What about Navarra,
is there any particular evidence there? Were there many Jews there?

2) Anyone know any sephardic surname that might sound similar to Mussida?
Does it sound to have a Jewish root?

I would appreciate any other tip/idea to help my research.

Best regards,

Alvaro Guimarães Mucida


ROTHENBERG FAMILY #general

Mike Fischer <miketran@...>
 

I am looking for any relations of Abe and Sophie ROTHENBERG. Sophie was my
grandmother's sister. Her maiden name was STEINBERG. Sophie had 3 sisters,
Becky, Rose and Dora. This is the only information I have. Dora's
daughter, who is still alive, won't even talk to me about the family. I
think there are some secrets that she thinks I won't find out. I have lots
of time and patience. The STEINBERG family came >from Meseritz, Poland.

Wilma Fischer
Passaic, N.J.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROTHENBERG FAMILY #general

Mike Fischer <miketran@...>
 

I am looking for any relations of Abe and Sophie ROTHENBERG. Sophie was my
grandmother's sister. Her maiden name was STEINBERG. Sophie had 3 sisters,
Becky, Rose and Dora. This is the only information I have. Dora's
daughter, who is still alive, won't even talk to me about the family. I
think there are some secrets that she thinks I won't find out. I have lots
of time and patience. The STEINBERG family came >from Meseritz, Poland.

Wilma Fischer
Passaic, N.J.


Family disinterest #general

Lancy
 

I get reactions like: "What are you going to do with what you find?" or
"It's enough if you update me just once in a while".
Actually, there was an item in ancestry.com a couple of weeks ago about
this phenomenon. The lady who wrote it commented that she learned to
share her thoughts and emotions with her pet.
It seems that the interest and the excitement is all ours and we have
our fellow JewishGenners to share it with. Personally, I've decided not
to let their disinterest discourage me.
I really enjoy it and that's fine with me.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family disinterest #general

Lancy
 

I get reactions like: "What are you going to do with what you find?" or
"It's enough if you update me just once in a while".
Actually, there was an item in ancestry.com a couple of weeks ago about
this phenomenon. The lady who wrote it commented that she learned to
share her thoughts and emotions with her pet.
It seems that the interest and the excitement is all ours and we have
our fellow JewishGenners to share it with. Personally, I've decided not
to let their disinterest discourage me.
I really enjoy it and that's fine with me.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel


Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

Dave Lewak <dlewak@...>
 

Hi Mark,
I recently went through such an experience,
contacting a distant cousin who did not know
my side of the family. I made contact by calling
on the phone, introducing myself and saying that
I was doing genealogy research, then explaining
how I was related to this cousin.

Good luck -- Dave Lewak, Berkeley CA, USA

Mark Saul wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need advice about the personal side of genealogy.

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.

I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.

Will a discreet note, mentioning my purposes and also the
above issues, do the trick? If I get no response, should
I cross the name of my list?

I think I need advice >from folks who have been in this

situation.

Mark Saul
New York, NY

Researching: KAMENIR, RUBENSTEIN: Novograd Volinsky, Zhitomir, Berdichev

LISENCO, KOTANOV: Brailov, Rachni, Mogilev Podolsk
TELISHEVSKY: Gomel', Ekaterinoslav
SOLOMOVITCH/SOLOMOWITZ: Gomel'


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

Dave Lewak <dlewak@...>
 

Hi Mark,
I recently went through such an experience,
contacting a distant cousin who did not know
my side of the family. I made contact by calling
on the phone, introducing myself and saying that
I was doing genealogy research, then explaining
how I was related to this cousin.

Good luck -- Dave Lewak, Berkeley CA, USA

Mark Saul wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I need advice about the personal side of genealogy.

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.

I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.

Will a discreet note, mentioning my purposes and also the
above issues, do the trick? If I get no response, should
I cross the name of my list?

I think I need advice >from folks who have been in this

situation.

Mark Saul
New York, NY

Researching: KAMENIR, RUBENSTEIN: Novograd Volinsky, Zhitomir, Berdichev

LISENCO, KOTANOV: Brailov, Rachni, Mogilev Podolsk
TELISHEVSKY: Gomel', Ekaterinoslav
SOLOMOVITCH/SOLOMOWITZ: Gomel'


Re: Please Help! #ukraine

Maida Dacher
 

David Donn is looking for family in Siberia. Where in Siberia is he looking.
It is a big place. I am, also, researching Siberia. Names and towns listed
below.

Maida Dacher
Sherman Oaks, CA

YOFER, LEVENTINE: Krasnoyarsk
YOFER, RUDOFSKY: Irkursk
RUDOFSKY; Kansk


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Please Help! #ukraine

Maida Dacher
 

David Donn is looking for family in Siberia. Where in Siberia is he looking.
It is a big place. I am, also, researching Siberia. Names and towns listed
below.

Maida Dacher
Sherman Oaks, CA

YOFER, LEVENTINE: Krasnoyarsk
YOFER, RUDOFSKY: Irkursk
RUDOFSKY; Kansk


Berdichev Yizkor Book #ukraine

Steven J. Rosen
 

To Berdichev researchers:
Previously unknown to me, and I suspect to many of you, there is a yizkor
book for Berdichev, in the form of a special issue of a serial publication.
I obtained it today. It is 65 pages, and seems to include some family
histories, but not so far as I can tell a list. It is in Hebrew, which, to
my shame, I am unable to read. I would like to hear >from anyone who is
willing to play a role in translation. I will be happy to provide copies.
--Steve Rosen, Bethesda, Maryland
Rosen20817@aol.com
Researching ROYZENTUR (Rosenthal) and BABCHUK (Vovchik) in Odessa and
Berdichev


Berdichev Yizkor Book
a special Berdichev issue of
Yalkut Volin: osef zikhronot u-teudot [Anthology of Volynia; collection of
memoirs and documents],
Tel Aviv, 1951
vol. 2, nos 12-13.
In Hebrew
Listed in Bibliography of Memorial Book for Jewish Communities in Soviet
Belorussia and SovietUkraine, in "The Holocaust In The Soviet Union."(1993)


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Berdichev Yizkor Book #ukraine

Steven J. Rosen
 

To Berdichev researchers:
Previously unknown to me, and I suspect to many of you, there is a yizkor
book for Berdichev, in the form of a special issue of a serial publication.
I obtained it today. It is 65 pages, and seems to include some family
histories, but not so far as I can tell a list. It is in Hebrew, which, to
my shame, I am unable to read. I would like to hear >from anyone who is
willing to play a role in translation. I will be happy to provide copies.
--Steve Rosen, Bethesda, Maryland
Rosen20817@aol.com
Researching ROYZENTUR (Rosenthal) and BABCHUK (Vovchik) in Odessa and
Berdichev


Berdichev Yizkor Book
a special Berdichev issue of
Yalkut Volin: osef zikhronot u-teudot [Anthology of Volynia; collection of
memoirs and documents],
Tel Aviv, 1951
vol. 2, nos 12-13.
In Hebrew
Listed in Bibliography of Memorial Book for Jewish Communities in Soviet
Belorussia and SovietUkraine, in "The Holocaust In The Soviet Union."(1993)


Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.

The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was the
year of the progrom.

Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?

Shmuel Fisher


Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

TerryOstrach <terryostrach@...>
 

You're so fortunate to have this information. Most of it is lost to other
families who have no idea where to begin looking for relatives.

If it's possible, you might try phoning first. I did both letters and phone
calls, and the phone calls worked best, especially when you consider that
these people are probably advanced in years. If the people you intend to
contact are in their 70s or 80s, they may rather talking than doing the
boring task of writing. In my experience, the older the person I contacted
by phone, the more information they gave me. I'd have nothing about my
husband's family at all if I hadn't made a phone call to his 82 year old
aunt who was so thrilled to receive the call, she invited me to call back
regularly. Same with a 90 year old. In fact, both of them gave me
anecdotes that were wonderful for the family history.

One thing you may not have considered. Start first with your own brothers
and sisters and ask them what they remember your own parents telling telling
them. I found that my brother, being 7 years older than I, had an entirely
different set of memories about the stories our father told him.

Good luck,


Terry {Ostrach}

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.
I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Fraternal Significant Tie Tack or Lapel Pin? #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

Dear Genners,

This morning thinking about this lapel pin the year 1903 struck home.

The family story was that my father came >from Kishinev(the K). 1903 was the
year of the progrom.

Therefore, was there any organization in the USA that commemorated the
progrom that had the initials, KSBA?

Shmuel Fisher


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: reaching out to family #ukraine

TerryOstrach <terryostrach@...>
 

You're so fortunate to have this information. Most of it is lost to other
families who have no idea where to begin looking for relatives.

If it's possible, you might try phoning first. I did both letters and phone
calls, and the phone calls worked best, especially when you consider that
these people are probably advanced in years. If the people you intend to
contact are in their 70s or 80s, they may rather talking than doing the
boring task of writing. In my experience, the older the person I contacted
by phone, the more information they gave me. I'd have nothing about my
husband's family at all if I hadn't made a phone call to his 82 year old
aunt who was so thrilled to receive the call, she invited me to call back
regularly. Same with a 90 year old. In fact, both of them gave me
anecdotes that were wonderful for the family history.

One thing you may not have considered. Start first with your own brothers
and sisters and ask them what they remember your own parents telling telling
them. I found that my brother, being 7 years older than I, had an entirely
different set of memories about the stories our father told him.

Good luck,


Terry {Ostrach}

I have lists of names, and even addresses, of distant
relatives in America whom I would like to contact. My
grandparents knew their grandparents, my parents
corresponded with their parents, but time has passed
and I don't know them or their adult children.
I would like to make contact, ask about extant documents,
old memories, or traditions. But I don't want to be seen
as invading their privacy.


Barnet RABINOWITZ #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for the birthplace of the following individual who is buried
in the Kupishok, Lithuania plot in Union Fields Cemetery in New York:

Barnet (Berel) ben Daniel RABINOWITZ
Born 1875, Lithuania
Came to America 1893
Married Gussie
Died 1955, Brooklyn
Daughter Rose Siskind

I don't believe he was >from Kupishok. I would also like to know his
mother's family name too.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Barnet RABINOWITZ #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am looking for the birthplace of the following individual who is buried
in the Kupishok, Lithuania plot in Union Fields Cemetery in New York:

Barnet (Berel) ben Daniel RABINOWITZ
Born 1875, Lithuania
Came to America 1893
Married Gussie
Died 1955, Brooklyn
Daughter Rose Siskind

I don't believe he was >from Kupishok. I would also like to know his
mother's family name too.

Thanks for any assistance.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net