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Re: Treatment of adopted children in family trees #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

Acceptable to whom? It is your family tree, and you are compiling it.
Setting criteria for inclusion is up to you, and nobody else.

That said, I have included adopted children in my tree, and I suppose
I am not the only one. I am sure that there are also people who do not
do so.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:22:26, benkarliner@juno.com (Benjamin Karliner)
opined:

Is it acceptable practice to include a blood relative's adopted child in
one's family tree? I would appreciate any insight on this matter >from our
fellow Genners.
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Treatment of adopted children in family trees #general

Stan Goodman <sheol@...>
 

Acceptable to whom? It is your family tree, and you are compiling it.
Setting criteria for inclusion is up to you, and nobody else.

That said, I have included adopted children in my tree, and I suppose
I am not the only one. I am sure that there are also people who do not
do so.

On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:22:26, benkarliner@juno.com (Benjamin Karliner)
opined:

Is it acceptable practice to include a blood relative's adopted child in
one's family tree? I would appreciate any insight on this matter >from our
fellow Genners.
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

PLEASE NOTE: Messages to the "From:" or "Reply to:" address of this
posting will NOT reach me, but will be deleted automatically unread.
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Re: Jews in the Liquor Industry #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

There was a recent discussion in this group about
the role of Jews in the liquor industry in the old
country. Beer and alcohol were indeed very much
Jewish-dominated business in much of Russia.
There is a slim volume called "Heshetiyya KaDat" by Yehudah Leib
Lipkind, published in 1898, discussing many aspects of alcoholic
beverages, including the new laws and licensing regulations issued
by Czarist Russia.
Fascinating title. You might have mentioned that < ha-shetiyyah ka-dat >
is a punning use of a phrase appearing in the book of Esther chapter one,
meaning (roughly) "drinking is in accordance with the law"!

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews in the Liquor Industry #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

There was a recent discussion in this group about
the role of Jews in the liquor industry in the old
country. Beer and alcohol were indeed very much
Jewish-dominated business in much of Russia.
There is a slim volume called "Heshetiyya KaDat" by Yehudah Leib
Lipkind, published in 1898, discussing many aspects of alcoholic
beverages, including the new laws and licensing regulations issued
by Czarist Russia.
Fascinating title. You might have mentioned that < ha-shetiyyah ka-dat >
is a punning use of a phrase appearing in the book of Esther chapter one,
meaning (roughly) "drinking is in accordance with the law"!

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: mandate era death certificates in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Steve,
If you know where your grandparents are buried, perhaps you could go to
the Chevra Kadisha for that section (>from that time) and get the records?
Raanan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:54:18 +0200 "Bronstein Family"
<sygaa@netvision.net.il> writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Fellow Ukraine SIG Researchers,

One must remember that documents that are matters of public record
in the
US (& perhaps other countries) are not matters of public record here
in
Israel. One correction in Steve Rivkin's posting is that it is the
Ministry of the Interior that issues the Death Certificates. The
rabbinate has nothing to do with them. It is marriage licenses that
they
are responsible for....
I, too,
have applied for my great-grandmother's Death Certificate and spoke
with
people at the Ministry of Interior. I was told that the original
document
is never copied but the information that it contains is copied and
sent to
the family member who requests it. If you are not a family member,
you
need a power of attorney >from the family member to apply for it.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem
Original Message
From: SRivkin742@aol.com
Subject: [ukraine] mandate era death certificates in Israel

Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and found a
solution.

Both my great great grandparents died in Israel in 1924 and the
other in
1925. Its my understanding that these mandate era death certificates
were
in English. Under the British the only death certificate copy I can
get
from Israel is an <extract> >from the Ministry of Religious Affairs
who
issues such certificates. I believe this might be all they have
access to -
but one Rabbi said by writing he was able to get a small bit of
additional
info. They issue these certificates in Hebrew.

I want a photocopy of the orginal certificate which 1] is in English
and
2] it is said they contain additional info often such as a]last
address
and b] perhaps names of parents.

Shalom,
Steve Rivkin


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: mandate era death certificates in Israel #ukraine

Raanan S Isseroff <raanan1@...>
 

BS"D

Steve,
If you know where your grandparents are buried, perhaps you could go to
the Chevra Kadisha for that section (>from that time) and get the records?
Raanan

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:54:18 +0200 "Bronstein Family"
<sygaa@netvision.net.il> writes:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Please visit the Ukraine SIG web site
<http://www.jewishgen.org/ukraine/>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dear Fellow Ukraine SIG Researchers,

One must remember that documents that are matters of public record
in the
US (& perhaps other countries) are not matters of public record here
in
Israel. One correction in Steve Rivkin's posting is that it is the
Ministry of the Interior that issues the Death Certificates. The
rabbinate has nothing to do with them. It is marriage licenses that
they
are responsible for....
I, too,
have applied for my great-grandmother's Death Certificate and spoke
with
people at the Ministry of Interior. I was told that the original
document
is never copied but the information that it contains is copied and
sent to
the family member who requests it. If you are not a family member,
you
need a power of attorney >from the family member to apply for it.
Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem
Original Message
From: SRivkin742@aol.com
Subject: [ukraine] mandate era death certificates in Israel

Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and found a
solution.

Both my great great grandparents died in Israel in 1924 and the
other in
1925. Its my understanding that these mandate era death certificates
were
in English. Under the British the only death certificate copy I can
get
from Israel is an <extract> >from the Ministry of Religious Affairs
who
issues such certificates. I believe this might be all they have
access to -
but one Rabbi said by writing he was able to get a small bit of
additional
info. They issue these certificates in Hebrew.

I want a photocopy of the orginal certificate which 1] is in English
and
2] it is said they contain additional info often such as a]last
address
and b] perhaps names of parents.

Shalom,
Steve Rivkin


Israilovka #ukraine

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Hi
I'm searching for my ancestors born in Israilovka. I have found this shtetl
in the M. Atlas Encarta, 48dg 32' NO 27dg 44'E, but I haven't found it at
any map nor town list at Jewishgen. It not appears into the Indexuke nor the
Shtetlseeker. Several families having their roots in Israilovka named it
also as Yazer, that I could not found too.

Anybody knows in which Russian Empire Gubernia that shtetl was? It is abt.
98 Km SO >from Vinnytsya, close (10 km to North) of Mohyliv-Podols'kyy and
the Moldavian border.
It corresponds at this time to Vinnyts'ka Oblast.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Israilovka #ukraine

Mario Jeifetz <mjeifetz@...>
 

Hi
I'm searching for my ancestors born in Israilovka. I have found this shtetl
in the M. Atlas Encarta, 48dg 32' NO 27dg 44'E, but I haven't found it at
any map nor town list at Jewishgen. It not appears into the Indexuke nor the
Shtetlseeker. Several families having their roots in Israilovka named it
also as Yazer, that I could not found too.

Anybody knows in which Russian Empire Gubernia that shtetl was? It is abt.
98 Km SO >from Vinnytsya, close (10 km to North) of Mohyliv-Podols'kyy and
the Moldavian border.
It corresponds at this time to Vinnyts'ka Oblast.

Mario Jeifetz
Moises Ville
Argentina


COGAN #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

Looking for COGAN family name >from Germany, Croatia,,,,thanks

Merle Kucan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen COGAN #general

MERLE KUCAN <BUTCHKUCAN@...>
 

Looking for COGAN family name >from Germany, Croatia,,,,thanks

Merle Kucan


Re: Searching: HYMAN #general

news@...
 

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

This lot appear in the UK 1881 census:

Dwelling:8 Saint St
Census Place: Leeds, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342084 PRO Ref
RG11 Piece 4517 Folio 76 Page 35
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Phillip HYMAN M 35 M Poland
Rel: Head
Occ: Glazier
Rebecca HYMAN M 25 F Poland
Rel: Wife
Isaac HYMAN 5 M Leeds, York, England
Rel: Son
Hetty HYMAN 4 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Mary HYMAN 1 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Harris JACOB U 21 M Poland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Tailor

Amanda Jones


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching: HYMAN #general

news@...
 

Parents: Philip (born 1849) & Rebecca HYMAN (born 1858)
Children:
Abraham Hyman (born 1875 in England)
Yetta (or Hattie) Hyman (born 1878 in Leeds)
Mary Hyman (born 1879 in Leeds)
Bessie Hyman (born 1881 in England)
Louis Hyman (born 1884 in England)
Rose Hyman (born 1887 in New York)
Jacob Hyman (born 1889 in New York)
Moses Hyman (born 1891 in New York)
Max Hyman (born 1893 in New York)

This lot appear in the UK 1881 census:

Dwelling:8 Saint St
Census Place: Leeds, York, England Source: FHL Film 1342084 PRO Ref
RG11 Piece 4517 Folio 76 Page 35
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Phillip HYMAN M 35 M Poland
Rel: Head
Occ: Glazier
Rebecca HYMAN M 25 F Poland
Rel: Wife
Isaac HYMAN 5 M Leeds, York, England
Rel: Son
Hetty HYMAN 4 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Mary HYMAN 1 F Leeds, York, England
Rel: Daug
Harris JACOB U 21 M Poland
Rel: Visitor
Occ: Tailor

Amanda Jones


Re: London - Looking for burial place. Where to start? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Hi,

How can I locate my G-G-Grandfather's burial site ?. He died in London in
1924, but I don't have any idea where exactly did he lived.

I've got his Death Certificate >from the General Register Office. The
registration District was the "Mile End Old Town, South Western, County of
London". The informant was registered as "Deputy Coroner for the Eastern
District of London". These are the only clues I have about his residence...
Yaacov Slizak
Mile End was an area of the East End of London heavily populated by Jews
before WW2. Unfortunately some of the cemeteries on that side of London,
which were probably still used by Jews dying in the 1920s, were either
bombed during the war or have fallen into disrepair so that the stones are
rarely legible today even if you can accessthem. But some are still
extant, so you might get lucky, especially if you can pinpoint which
synagogue he belonged to, which in turn might enable you to pinpoint which
cemetery he would most likely have been buried in. Try writing to Cyril
Fox of JGSGB (the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain) who is
very expert in these matters. (I can give you his e-mail if you would like
to do this).

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: London - Looking for burial place. Where to start? #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

Hi,

How can I locate my G-G-Grandfather's burial site ?. He died in London in
1924, but I don't have any idea where exactly did he lived.

I've got his Death Certificate >from the General Register Office. The
registration District was the "Mile End Old Town, South Western, County of
London". The informant was registered as "Deputy Coroner for the Eastern
District of London". These are the only clues I have about his residence...
Yaacov Slizak
Mile End was an area of the East End of London heavily populated by Jews
before WW2. Unfortunately some of the cemeteries on that side of London,
which were probably still used by Jews dying in the 1920s, were either
bombed during the war or have fallen into disrepair so that the stones are
rarely legible today even if you can accessthem. But some are still
extant, so you might get lucky, especially if you can pinpoint which
synagogue he belonged to, which in turn might enable you to pinpoint which
cemetery he would most likely have been buried in. Try writing to Cyril
Fox of JGSGB (the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain) who is
very expert in these matters. (I can give you his e-mail if you would like
to do this).

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Cypress Hills Cemetery #usa

Hopina@...
 

There are actually two Cypress Hills cemeteries. New Cypress Hills and
Cypress Hills. They are located adjacent to one another on the
Brooklyn/Queens border. Check to see which one responded to you and get
in touch with the other one. Perhaps he is buried there.

Hope Langner
Albany, NY
Searching YANOWSKI, BUCHHOLZ, PREMINGER, KAWKIEWICZ

Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> (BABYCAT3)wrote:

<< My uncle's death certificate >from 1922 lists the cemetery as Cypress Hills,
Long Island, NY. The only one I located is in Brooklyn which is one of the
5 boroughs and I presume, not actually Long Island. I wrote to the one in
Brooklyn and they have no record of his burial there. Would anyone know if
there is another Cypress Hills Cemetery out on Long Island? If not, how
can I pursue with the one in Brooklyn if they may not be thoroughly
searching their records?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cypress Hills Cemetery #general

Hopina@...
 

There are actually two Cypress Hills cemeteries. New Cypress Hills and
Cypress Hills. They are located adjacent to one another on the
Brooklyn/Queens border. Check to see which one responded to you and get
in touch with the other one. Perhaps he is buried there.

Hope Langner
Albany, NY
Searching YANOWSKI, BUCHHOLZ, PREMINGER, KAWKIEWICZ

Barbara Meyers <babycat3@aol.com> (BABYCAT3)wrote:

<< My uncle's death certificate >from 1922 lists the cemetery as Cypress Hills,
Long Island, NY. The only one I located is in Brooklyn which is one of the
5 boroughs and I presume, not actually Long Island. I wrote to the one in
Brooklyn and they have no record of his burial there. Would anyone know if
there is another Cypress Hills Cemetery out on Long Island? If not, how
can I pursue with the one in Brooklyn if they may not be thoroughly
searching their records?


Ungarn #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> wrote

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that
he was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]
Dear Martha,
Ungarn is Hungary in Yidish and in German. In Jerusalem there are the Batei
Ungarn, founded and settled by Jews >from Hungary in the 19th crntury.
Alter Ophir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ungarn #general

Alter & Dina Ophir <alterdina@...>
 

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> wrote

A cousin just sent me a birth certificate wherein the father stated that
he was born in "Ungarn". Was there a place in Hungary called Ungarn, or is
that the way a Hungarian would pronounce Hungary in New York City in the
late 1800's? Or what ideas do you have that could help? [ I am a total
twit when it comes to Hungary!]
Dear Martha,
Ungarn is Hungary in Yidish and in German. In Jerusalem there are the Batei
Ungarn, founded and settled by Jews >from Hungary in the 19th crntury.
Alter Ophir


Philip SOLOMON-Paterson, New Jersey #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Philip SOLOMON, aged 17, in 1922, was on a sled with my Uncle Julius KLEIN
when they struck a tree. The incident took place on Temple Street in
Paterson, New Jersey and I am wondering if anyone out there might be related
to Philip. He sustained minor injuries, my Uncle died the next morning.
Sound familiar? I just received the newspaper articles of the incident.
Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philip SOLOMON-Paterson, New Jersey #general

BABYCAT3 <babycat3@...>
 

Philip SOLOMON, aged 17, in 1922, was on a sled with my Uncle Julius KLEIN
when they struck a tree. The incident took place on Temple Street in
Paterson, New Jersey and I am wondering if anyone out there might be related
to Philip. He sustained minor injuries, my Uncle died the next morning.
Sound familiar? I just received the newspaper articles of the incident.
Barbara Klein Meyers
babycat3@aol.com