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Re: Lithuanian Cemeteries
#lithuania
Litvaks@...
Nancy Weiler writes:
<<I was told that a plan to photograph or copy tombstones in Lithuanian cemeteries was to be discussed at the Salt Lake City JGSI convention. Does anyone have information about such a project?>> The Vilna Gaon Museum in Vilnius, Lithuania has initiated a team project to photograph and document all Jewish cemeteries found in Lithuania. Much work has been done already. I would suggest that anyone interested in helping with this project contact: <jmuseum@puni.osf.lt> (The Vilna Gaon Jewish State Museum) The director, Rachel Kostanian will be able to fill you in on the progress of this project, and also will be glad to have help of any kind >from the SIG members. Davida Noyek Handler President, LitvakSIG
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Lithuanian Cemeteries
#lithuania
Litvaks@...
Nancy Weiler writes:
<<I was told that a plan to photograph or copy tombstones in Lithuanian cemeteries was to be discussed at the Salt Lake City JGSI convention. Does anyone have information about such a project?>> The Vilna Gaon Museum in Vilnius, Lithuania has initiated a team project to photograph and document all Jewish cemeteries found in Lithuania. Much work has been done already. I would suggest that anyone interested in helping with this project contact: <jmuseum@puni.osf.lt> (The Vilna Gaon Jewish State Museum) The director, Rachel Kostanian will be able to fill you in on the progress of this project, and also will be glad to have help of any kind >from the SIG members. Davida Noyek Handler President, LitvakSIG
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Re: The name ALKUNEH
#general
Paul Silverstone
This was my uncle (Kenneth)'s Hebrew name. I don't know where it came
from or why he had that name. He was born in 1900 in Canada and thefamily came >from Volhynia Gubernia. Paul Silverstone BABYCAT3 wrote: Last night I came in on the endof a yiddish movie being shown on my localPaul Silverstone New York reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name ALKUNEH
#general
Paul Silverstone
This was my uncle (Kenneth)'s Hebrew name. I don't know where it came
from or why he had that name. He was born in 1900 in Canada and thefamily came >from Volhynia Gubernia. Paul Silverstone BABYCAT3 wrote: Last night I came in on the endof a yiddish movie being shown on my localPaul Silverstone New York reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu
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Re: Andre CITROEN
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BasGinger@...
Henriette and the others,
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(many people seem to be interested in that topic!) Of course you are right about the French word "citron", but the trouble is that, according to a genealogical tree which is in our possession, it is not Andre, but Andre CITROEN's grandfather who changed his name, >from LIMOENMAN to CITROEN, with "oe" at the end. And you are probably right when you say that the two dots over the E where added (not by Andre but by his father and several uncles) in order for the name not to be pronounced in a manner similar to the French word "citron". By the way, this name is quite common among Jews, with various spellings: Citroen, Citron, Cytron, Kitron, Tsitron, Tsytron, Zitron...(see the Avotaynu webpage http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.html). It can be found, among other sources, in the JGFF, the FTJP, the Grodno Gubernia 1912 Voters List,the two Dictionaries by A. Beider (Russian Empire and Poland). About the possible connection between Andre CITROEN and Poland, I noticed his mother's given name, Masza (Masza Amalia Kleinman), which looks Polish to me (but I am not a specialist). Probably more information could be found in a book which was indicated by Eve Line Blum a few days ago (I have not read it). Basile Ginger, Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris http://www.genealoj.org Henriette Moed Roth wrote:=20
One more name to add to the list in my previous message: CITRON, Louis
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Andre CITROEN
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BasGinger@...
Henriette and the others,
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(many people seem to be interested in that topic!) Of course you are right about the French word "citron", but the trouble is that, according to a genealogical tree which is in our possession, it is not Andre, but Andre CITROEN's grandfather who changed his name, >from LIMOENMAN to CITROEN, with "oe" at the end. And you are probably right when you say that the two dots over the E where added (not by Andre but by his father and several uncles) in order for the name not to be pronounced in a manner similar to the French word "citron". By the way, this name is quite common among Jews, with various spellings: Citroen, Citron, Cytron, Kitron, Tsitron, Tsytron, Zitron...(see the Avotaynu webpage http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.html). It can be found, among other sources, in the JGFF, the FTJP, the Grodno Gubernia 1912 Voters List,the two Dictionaries by A. Beider (Russian Empire and Poland). About the possible connection between Andre CITROEN and Poland, I noticed his mother's given name, Masza (Masza Amalia Kleinman), which looks Polish to me (but I am not a specialist). Probably more information could be found in a book which was indicated by Eve Line Blum a few days ago (I have not read it). Basile Ginger, Cercle de Genealogie Juive, Paris http://www.genealoj.org Henriette Moed Roth wrote:=20
One more name to add to the list in my previous message: CITRON, Louis
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Re: The name ALKUNEH
#general
Simon Barak
BABYCAT3 wrote:
Last night I came in on the end of a yiddish movie.....one of the actorsALKUNEH is the Ashkenazi pronountiation of the Biblical name ELKANAH. There were at least 4 of them in the Bible: 1 The Husband of Hannah and father of Samuel. 2 The Head of a Levitical family. 3 An Officer of Ahaz’s household. 4 The doorkeeper of the Ark of the Covenant. Happy Hannuka Shimon Barak
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name ALKUNEH
#general
Simon Barak
BABYCAT3 wrote:
Last night I came in on the end of a yiddish movie.....one of the actorsALKUNEH is the Ashkenazi pronountiation of the Biblical name ELKANAH. There were at least 4 of them in the Bible: 1 The Husband of Hannah and father of Samuel. 2 The Head of a Levitical family. 3 An Officer of Ahaz’s household. 4 The doorkeeper of the Ark of the Covenant. Happy Hannuka Shimon Barak
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Re: occupation "cutter"
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Chuck Haas <haascn@...>
A "cutter" was a person in the garment trades who cut large stacks of
cloth into the pieces that were sewn together (i.e., using a pattern). My understanding is that this was a frequent occupation for men in the garment industry. -- Charles N. Haas haas@drexel.edu searching: Romania: SIMON, SIMOVITCH, HERZKOVITZ, AVRAM France: ROSENFELD, ROSENFELD-ARON, HAAS
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:occupation "cutter"
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Chuck Haas <haascn@...>
A "cutter" was a person in the garment trades who cut large stacks of
cloth into the pieces that were sewn together (i.e., using a pattern). My understanding is that this was a frequent occupation for men in the garment industry. -- Charles N. Haas haas@drexel.edu searching: Romania: SIMON, SIMOVITCH, HERZKOVITZ, AVRAM France: ROSENFELD, ROSENFELD-ARON, HAAS
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Re: The name ALKUNEH
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m rogow <mrogow@...>
In M. Vashavski's familiar poem about "yikhes", he says (in Yiddish) at
the first line of the second stanza "here comes uncle Alkuneh." I don't as yet know the derivation of the name, but I can make proper inquiries and will certainly let you know. Mel Rogow Los Angeles At 07:55 PM 12/22/00 +0000, you wrote: Last night I came in on the end of a yiddish movie being shown on my local
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name ALKUNEH
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m rogow <mrogow@...>
In M. Vashavski's familiar poem about "yikhes", he says (in Yiddish) at
the first line of the second stanza "here comes uncle Alkuneh." I don't as yet know the derivation of the name, but I can make proper inquiries and will certainly let you know. Mel Rogow Los Angeles At 07:55 PM 12/22/00 +0000, you wrote: Last night I came in on the end of a yiddish movie being shown on my local
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Re: occupation: Cutter??
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
I came across my great-grandfather'sbrother in various records putting hisThis mean's a tailor's cutter -- the guy who cuts out the cloth using a pattern. Judith Romney Wegner
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: occupation: Cutter??
#general
Judith Romney Wegner
I came across my great-grandfather'sbrother in various records putting hisThis mean's a tailor's cutter -- the guy who cuts out the cloth using a pattern. Judith Romney Wegner
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Re: listing family names in the Newsletter
#belarus
Elsebeth Paikin
At 11:25 23-12-00 +0200, Ofer Cohen wrote:
Could you please advise what is the typical time between theI regret to say that there is no "typical time between the submittance of an article until it is published". (The article by Avram Chani which was published a few days ago has been one year under way! That was partly due to difficulties in finding and getting permissions >from the copyrightholders.) I do my best to publish as soon as possible, but it depends on all my other duties, "real" job, health, computer problems etc. Please remember that everything on JewishGen - and Belarus SIG also - is based on volunteer work. These past six months have been absolutely terrible filled with all sorts of problems as well as illness - therefore there has been no new articles between October 6 and yesterday. I have been "the one and only" working on the Belarus Newsletter since Brian Poliakoff had to quit mid-1999. So please bear over with me. (Maybe it'll help to hear that much to my regret I have not had time for my own research the past 1-2 years!?) As for the "the process": That also depends .... Some artciles have already been published elsewhere, and if I receive them with a permission to republish them, they can almost instantly go online. Other articles have to be edited and proof-read (as English is not my mother tongue) and the time it will take depends my time and the time of the proof-reader (other work, illness, vacations, etc.) Other articles again needs permissions/donor agreements >from several people and that can take some time. So all I can say is that I am sorry when articles are delayed for some reason. I do my best -- and so does the proof-reader. ********************* Now to the good news: ********************* I am very grateful and happy to announce that Jack Blagman has just volunteered to join me as editor of the newsletter, so now things will hopefully improve. I want to extend a warm welcome to Jack >from the Belarus SIG and the editorial board. Best wishes for a happy chanukah and new year to all Belarus SIG'ers. And thank you to all who send in articles, photos etc. Elsebeth Paikin, Editor Belarus SIG Online Newsletter http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk --
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: listing family names in the Newsletter
#belarus
Elsebeth Paikin
At 11:25 23-12-00 +0200, Ofer Cohen wrote:
Could you please advise what is the typical time between theI regret to say that there is no "typical time between the submittance of an article until it is published". (The article by Avram Chani which was published a few days ago has been one year under way! That was partly due to difficulties in finding and getting permissions >from the copyrightholders.) I do my best to publish as soon as possible, but it depends on all my other duties, "real" job, health, computer problems etc. Please remember that everything on JewishGen - and Belarus SIG also - is based on volunteer work. These past six months have been absolutely terrible filled with all sorts of problems as well as illness - therefore there has been no new articles between October 6 and yesterday. I have been "the one and only" working on the Belarus Newsletter since Brian Poliakoff had to quit mid-1999. So please bear over with me. (Maybe it'll help to hear that much to my regret I have not had time for my own research the past 1-2 years!?) As for the "the process": That also depends .... Some artciles have already been published elsewhere, and if I receive them with a permission to republish them, they can almost instantly go online. Other articles have to be edited and proof-read (as English is not my mother tongue) and the time it will take depends my time and the time of the proof-reader (other work, illness, vacations, etc.) Other articles again needs permissions/donor agreements >from several people and that can take some time. So all I can say is that I am sorry when articles are delayed for some reason. I do my best -- and so does the proof-reader. ********************* Now to the good news: ********************* I am very grateful and happy to announce that Jack Blagman has just volunteered to join me as editor of the newsletter, so now things will hopefully improve. I want to extend a warm welcome to Jack >from the Belarus SIG and the editorial board. Best wishes for a happy chanukah and new year to all Belarus SIG'ers. And thank you to all who send in articles, photos etc. Elsebeth Paikin, Editor Belarus SIG Online Newsletter http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm e-mail: elsebeth@paikin.dk --
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Re: listing family names in the Newsletter
#belarus
Ofer <oferco@...>
Ms. Paikin,
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Could you please advise what is the typical time between the submittance of an article until it is published and what is the process it is passing? My previous article publication was delayed for almost three months, and my new article and the update of my previous one were submitted by mid November, and were not published as yet. Ofer Cohen Israel
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Elsebeth Paikin wrote:from time to time I get e-mails with requests for listing thenames they are researching in the "Surname list" on the index
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: listing family names in the Newsletter
#belarus
Ofer <oferco@...>
Ms. Paikin,
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Could you please advise what is the typical time between the submittance of an article until it is published and what is the process it is passing? My previous article publication was delayed for almost three months, and my new article and the update of my previous one were submitted by mid November, and were not published as yet. Ofer Cohen Israel
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Elsebeth Paikin wrote:from time to time I get e-mails with requests for listing thenames they are researching in the "Surname list" on the index
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Sara's Children: The Destruction of Chmielnik
#general
Ronald R Seagrave <seagraver@...>
Sara's Children: The Destruction of Chmielnik
By Suzan Esther Hagstrom Sergeant Kirkland's Press www.kirklands.org ISBN: 1-887901-28-0 6 by 9" Trade paper Retail Price $29.95 Publication Date Jan. 15, 2001 Sara's Children is full of love, joy, and hope, Nathan Garfinkel's wedding portrait on the back of this book cover captures one of life's turning points. The occasion, however, was more momentous than any one could ever imagine. Only six years earlier Nathan and his sisters, who surround him in the photograph, were reduced to living skeletons, victims of anti-Semitism that raged out of control during World War II. Nazi Germany and its sympathizers brutally murdered more than 6 million Jews across Europe, wiping out entire families and, in some cases, villages. Through sheer luck and by helping each other, the Garfinkels overcame seemingly insurmountable odds to evade death. Sara's Children records how the five siblings survived slave labor, starvation, beatings, typhus, exposure, and fatigue. The starkly written narrative relies heavily on the Garfinkels' own words and interviews with other survivors >from their hometown of Chmielnik, Poland. The nonfiction work begins with what they lost: loving parents, an extended family, loyal friends, and a simple, but vibrant, lifestyle. Nonetheless, disturbing signs of anti-Semitism mar their happy childhood. Violence and hatred escalate as Germany razes Poland and sweeps Europe. Each chapter explodes with details of the Garfinkels' terrible ordeal. More than just an individual's memoir, Sara's Children expresses a community's destruction via heartbreaking testimonials >from numerous other Holocaust survivors. Written documents >from Germany, photographs >from the late 1940s, and maps reinforce and verify their account. Places like Czestochowa, Kielce, and Skarzysko-Kamienna, where the Garfinkels were imprisoned and exploited, may not be as familiar to readers as Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen, but they were just as deadly. With its vivid descriptions of lesser-known camps, Sara's Children sheds more light on Nazi Germany's vast network of evil. The Garfinkels provide a rare, uplifting footnote to an era of incomprehensible cruelty and unprecedented genocide. While their experience is rooted in the Holocaust, their story of rising above degradation and despair has universal appeal. What People are Saying About Sara's Children: "...portrays the best in Jewish and other people, faith in God, close sibling love, sacrifice in the worst of times and under the most difficult of conditions. This classic restores trust and understanding of other human beings." Dr. Felicja Karay, author of Death Comes in Yellow "...a compelling and absorbing report >from hell. It is skillfully built around the words of the Garfinkels, Polish Jews, four sisters and a brother, all of whom survived nearly three years of Hitler's slave labor camps. The narrative is enhanced and confirmed by the recollections of other Holocaust survivors whose paths crossed those of the Garfinkels in those terrible years. ...a unique and valuable contribution." David S. Wyman, Professor of History, Emeritus University of Massachusetts, Amherst; PBS's The Abandonment of the Jews About the Author: Suzan Esther Hagstorm is a freelance journalist in San Diego and a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of California at Berkeley. She researched and wrote Sara's Children in her spare time while working as a financial news reporter for the Orlando Sentinel in Florida.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sara's Children: The Destruction of Chmielnik
#general
Ronald R Seagrave <seagraver@...>
Sara's Children: The Destruction of Chmielnik
By Suzan Esther Hagstrom Sergeant Kirkland's Press www.kirklands.org ISBN: 1-887901-28-0 6 by 9" Trade paper Retail Price $29.95 Publication Date Jan. 15, 2001 Sara's Children is full of love, joy, and hope, Nathan Garfinkel's wedding portrait on the back of this book cover captures one of life's turning points. The occasion, however, was more momentous than any one could ever imagine. Only six years earlier Nathan and his sisters, who surround him in the photograph, were reduced to living skeletons, victims of anti-Semitism that raged out of control during World War II. Nazi Germany and its sympathizers brutally murdered more than 6 million Jews across Europe, wiping out entire families and, in some cases, villages. Through sheer luck and by helping each other, the Garfinkels overcame seemingly insurmountable odds to evade death. Sara's Children records how the five siblings survived slave labor, starvation, beatings, typhus, exposure, and fatigue. The starkly written narrative relies heavily on the Garfinkels' own words and interviews with other survivors >from their hometown of Chmielnik, Poland. The nonfiction work begins with what they lost: loving parents, an extended family, loyal friends, and a simple, but vibrant, lifestyle. Nonetheless, disturbing signs of anti-Semitism mar their happy childhood. Violence and hatred escalate as Germany razes Poland and sweeps Europe. Each chapter explodes with details of the Garfinkels' terrible ordeal. More than just an individual's memoir, Sara's Children expresses a community's destruction via heartbreaking testimonials >from numerous other Holocaust survivors. Written documents >from Germany, photographs >from the late 1940s, and maps reinforce and verify their account. Places like Czestochowa, Kielce, and Skarzysko-Kamienna, where the Garfinkels were imprisoned and exploited, may not be as familiar to readers as Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen, but they were just as deadly. With its vivid descriptions of lesser-known camps, Sara's Children sheds more light on Nazi Germany's vast network of evil. The Garfinkels provide a rare, uplifting footnote to an era of incomprehensible cruelty and unprecedented genocide. While their experience is rooted in the Holocaust, their story of rising above degradation and despair has universal appeal. What People are Saying About Sara's Children: "...portrays the best in Jewish and other people, faith in God, close sibling love, sacrifice in the worst of times and under the most difficult of conditions. This classic restores trust and understanding of other human beings." Dr. Felicja Karay, author of Death Comes in Yellow "...a compelling and absorbing report >from hell. It is skillfully built around the words of the Garfinkels, Polish Jews, four sisters and a brother, all of whom survived nearly three years of Hitler's slave labor camps. The narrative is enhanced and confirmed by the recollections of other Holocaust survivors whose paths crossed those of the Garfinkels in those terrible years. ...a unique and valuable contribution." David S. Wyman, Professor of History, Emeritus University of Massachusetts, Amherst; PBS's The Abandonment of the Jews About the Author: Suzan Esther Hagstorm is a freelance journalist in San Diego and a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of California at Berkeley. She researched and wrote Sara's Children in her spare time while working as a financial news reporter for the Orlando Sentinel in Florida.
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