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A ShtetLink for Belchatow, Poland is on its way.......... #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

This is to let you know that with a little bit of luck technically,
a great deal of patience, and maybe a few more snow days to stay home
and work on it <grin>, the Belchatow ShtetLink page will be submitted
to the ShtetLink site by the end of this month, as a work in progress,
with updates periodically.


I have received some wonderful material >from families with roots in
Belchatow. I would appreciate any and all donations of photographs,
postcards, documents, testimonies (both oral [taped] and written),
reminisces, and any other information you may have. You will be given
full credit for any material used on the site. I am also interested in
having the names of cemeteries that have Belchatower Burial Sections. I
know about Mt Zion and Montifiore Cemeteries in New York and Riverside
Cemetery in New Jersey. Can someone confirm if Mt Hebron in New York also
has such a section? I would also like to list any Belchatower
Landsmanschaften. Please contact me with any information you have to
help make this ShtetLink a place where people with shared roots can make
connections, gain information about their ancestral home, and take pride
in their history.

By the way, if you haven't searched for your surnames in a while, the
Belchatow indexes are complete on the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
website >from 1809-1899 with only a few missing years which we are trying
to rectify. Also take a look at Belchatow on the JewishGen Yizkor Book
site. Several chapters have been translated and are on-line. There's
more coming in progress now. We also have a pamphlet written in Buenos
Aires in 1959 by many of the same people who wrote the Yizkor Book.
Chapters of this have already been translated and will be on that site
soon. Keep checking these websites for updated informatioin about
Belchatow.

Warmest Regards,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York
ronisl@aol.com


Photographing headstone in Preston Cemetery #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

My maternal grandfather,Israel ROSE (nee Israel DROZDIASZ) is buried in the
Preston Hebrew Cemetery, Preston, Lancs (in the North of England); Grave
H464 NC. He died at aged 66 and was interred on April 6, 1939.

Israel and his wife Sarah Rachel (nee Safirstein) arrived in England from
Poland with their two daughters, Annie and Rita circa 1900. They were
originally >from Karczew, a town a few kilometers >from Warsaw.


If anyone who lives or works near to Preston and is willing to take
photographs the headstone, I would greatly appreciate hearing >from him or
her. I'm particularly interested to confirming the name of Israel Rose's
father (my paternal great grandfather) which I believe would be inscribed in
Hebrew on the headstone. I would gladly pay for any expenses involved (such
as film, postage (mailing to the U.S.), and gasoline (petrol).

My sole contact at the Preston Hebrew Congregation is in ill health and
unable to assist me. According to his daughter, there are very few Jews left
in the community and those who are are quite elderly.

Please reply privately unless you think your response would be of general
interest.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA

Researching:
DROZDIASZ (or variant) Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (or variant) Karczew, Poland
KYJAWSKI (KUJAWSKI) Lodz, Poland
WOLF (Isaac et al) Lodz, Poland
ISAACS (Solomon et al) Poland, anywhere
HORN, Morris (or variant) Poland, anywhere


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen A ShtetLink for Belchatow, Poland is on its way.......... #general

Ronisl@...
 

Dear JGenners,

This is to let you know that with a little bit of luck technically,
a great deal of patience, and maybe a few more snow days to stay home
and work on it <grin>, the Belchatow ShtetLink page will be submitted
to the ShtetLink site by the end of this month, as a work in progress,
with updates periodically.


I have received some wonderful material >from families with roots in
Belchatow. I would appreciate any and all donations of photographs,
postcards, documents, testimonies (both oral [taped] and written),
reminisces, and any other information you may have. You will be given
full credit for any material used on the site. I am also interested in
having the names of cemeteries that have Belchatower Burial Sections. I
know about Mt Zion and Montifiore Cemeteries in New York and Riverside
Cemetery in New Jersey. Can someone confirm if Mt Hebron in New York also
has such a section? I would also like to list any Belchatower
Landsmanschaften. Please contact me with any information you have to
help make this ShtetLink a place where people with shared roots can make
connections, gain information about their ancestral home, and take pride
in their history.

By the way, if you haven't searched for your surnames in a while, the
Belchatow indexes are complete on the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
website >from 1809-1899 with only a few missing years which we are trying
to rectify. Also take a look at Belchatow on the JewishGen Yizkor Book
site. Several chapters have been translated and are on-line. There's
more coming in progress now. We also have a pamphlet written in Buenos
Aires in 1959 by many of the same people who wrote the Yizkor Book.
Chapters of this have already been translated and will be on that site
soon. Keep checking these websites for updated informatioin about
Belchatow.

Warmest Regards,
Roni Seibel Liebowitz
New York
ronisl@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photographing headstone in Preston Cemetery #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

My maternal grandfather,Israel ROSE (nee Israel DROZDIASZ) is buried in the
Preston Hebrew Cemetery, Preston, Lancs (in the North of England); Grave
H464 NC. He died at aged 66 and was interred on April 6, 1939.

Israel and his wife Sarah Rachel (nee Safirstein) arrived in England from
Poland with their two daughters, Annie and Rita circa 1900. They were
originally >from Karczew, a town a few kilometers >from Warsaw.


If anyone who lives or works near to Preston and is willing to take
photographs the headstone, I would greatly appreciate hearing >from him or
her. I'm particularly interested to confirming the name of Israel Rose's
father (my paternal great grandfather) which I believe would be inscribed in
Hebrew on the headstone. I would gladly pay for any expenses involved (such
as film, postage (mailing to the U.S.), and gasoline (petrol).

My sole contact at the Preston Hebrew Congregation is in ill health and
unable to assist me. According to his daughter, there are very few Jews left
in the community and those who are are quite elderly.

Please reply privately unless you think your response would be of general
interest.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA

Researching:
DROZDIASZ (or variant) Karczew, Poland
SAFIRSTEIN (or variant) Karczew, Poland
KYJAWSKI (KUJAWSKI) Lodz, Poland
WOLF (Isaac et al) Lodz, Poland
ISAACS (Solomon et al) Poland, anywhere
HORN, Morris (or variant) Poland, anywhere


Basic Manners #general

Anthony Kaplan <antkap@...>
 

As we enter another year (C.E.) perhaps you will grant me a little
latitude. For some 2-3 years I have felt indeed privileged to belong to
the wide circle of people that JewishGen has so successfully established.
And I doubt if there is any person who has not gained >from this incredible
manner of sharing, exchanging and learning. Almost all letters, either to
the list or directed personally, are conspicuous for their warmth and
politeness and are testimony to that particular writer's own upbringing
and education - perhaps even genetic coding. And mail that I have
exchanged with others, >from New York to Miami to California, >from Canada,
the UK, France and Australia all fall into that very category that one
expects. Consequently, when mail arrives that does not conform to
expectations, a recipient may well experience emotions which could fall
anywhere along a spectrum. Indeed, >from a mild "tut-tut" to an exquisite
proctalgia fugax.

We all receive "out of the blue" mail requests, and those of us who live
in South Africa are by no means excluded. And I am sure my fellow citizens
will endorse my stating that if we are able to help we shall. And surely
this applies to all of us, irrespective of country. But some letters are
really the limit. They lack thought, they lack substance and are
frequently void of couth. I should like to cite 2 recent examples. In mid
2000 a letter told me to "go to Cape Town and photograph my cousin's
tombstone. I think her married name was XYZ". Obviously the word _ please
_ was alien to the writer. The fact that I live 1000 miles away was either
not appreciated or was considered irrelevant. A reply was not deemed
necessary. The second letter told me everything about it's author, and
nothing else. On 25/12/2000 an email arrived with the subject "RE :
KAPLAN" - the body of the message was to the point - "Write me." I
was tempted to send back an email with the simple word - ME-, but elected
instead to let the writer know what I really felt ! Is the word _please_
that difficult to spell and write? Who was this person, what was his
particular interest and what particular information was he hoping to
obtain? I could continue ad nauseam on this particular writer, but I do
question the adequacy/integrity of the person's Betz cells.

I could place other "beauts" on record and have no doubt that many could
trump my offerings. Thankfully these people are an absolute minority, and
it is to be hoped that the quality of their correspondence may help them
to understand why they often fail to elicit any response.

To the overwhelming majority of JewishGenners may I say thank you for what
you have given, and I look forward to reading future letters, always so
full of wisdom and consideration.

Anthony Kaplan
Johannesburg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Basic Manners #general

Anthony Kaplan <antkap@...>
 

As we enter another year (C.E.) perhaps you will grant me a little
latitude. For some 2-3 years I have felt indeed privileged to belong to
the wide circle of people that JewishGen has so successfully established.
And I doubt if there is any person who has not gained >from this incredible
manner of sharing, exchanging and learning. Almost all letters, either to
the list or directed personally, are conspicuous for their warmth and
politeness and are testimony to that particular writer's own upbringing
and education - perhaps even genetic coding. And mail that I have
exchanged with others, >from New York to Miami to California, >from Canada,
the UK, France and Australia all fall into that very category that one
expects. Consequently, when mail arrives that does not conform to
expectations, a recipient may well experience emotions which could fall
anywhere along a spectrum. Indeed, >from a mild "tut-tut" to an exquisite
proctalgia fugax.

We all receive "out of the blue" mail requests, and those of us who live
in South Africa are by no means excluded. And I am sure my fellow citizens
will endorse my stating that if we are able to help we shall. And surely
this applies to all of us, irrespective of country. But some letters are
really the limit. They lack thought, they lack substance and are
frequently void of couth. I should like to cite 2 recent examples. In mid
2000 a letter told me to "go to Cape Town and photograph my cousin's
tombstone. I think her married name was XYZ". Obviously the word _ please
_ was alien to the writer. The fact that I live 1000 miles away was either
not appreciated or was considered irrelevant. A reply was not deemed
necessary. The second letter told me everything about it's author, and
nothing else. On 25/12/2000 an email arrived with the subject "RE :
KAPLAN" - the body of the message was to the point - "Write me." I
was tempted to send back an email with the simple word - ME-, but elected
instead to let the writer know what I really felt ! Is the word _please_
that difficult to spell and write? Who was this person, what was his
particular interest and what particular information was he hoping to
obtain? I could continue ad nauseam on this particular writer, but I do
question the adequacy/integrity of the person's Betz cells.

I could place other "beauts" on record and have no doubt that many could
trump my offerings. Thankfully these people are an absolute minority, and
it is to be hoped that the quality of their correspondence may help them
to understand why they often fail to elicit any response.

To the overwhelming majority of JewishGenners may I say thank you for what
you have given, and I look forward to reading future letters, always so
full of wisdom and consideration.

Anthony Kaplan
Johannesburg


Re: Vansburg #general

jebenhausen@...
 

This is doubtlessly Vandsburg, formerly in the district (Kreis) of Flatow
in West Prussia (Westpreussen) - nowadays Wiêcbork in Poland. Note that the
Polish State Archives at Bydgoszcz have birth, marriage and death registers
of the Vandsburg Jewish community covering the years 1825-1847, and I am
told the church of LDS have microfilmed these registers.


Hope this helps,

--
Jacques Bauland
Marsaxlokk, Malta

Jebenhausen - A Jewish Community in Wuerttemberg
http://www.worldzone.net/family/jebenhausen


Re: online phone book #belarus

Greenpass@...
 

Adam,

Could you tell us which on-line telephone web site you used to find this
information.

Lillian Henking Greenberg
Bethesda, Md.

Researching: HENKIN/GENKIN ->Nevel/Vitebsk, St Petersburg, Belarus/Russia
MAGID ->Nevel/Vitebsk Belarus/Russia
ZELDA (ZINA) MAGID LIPMAN ->England
STVOLINSKY ->Nevel/Vitebsk Belarus/Russia
KWIATEK ->Lutostan, Lumza Poland
GREENBERG ->Pultusk, Poland, Brooklyn, NY


Given name Tonchin #general

Alan Steinfeld <alan.steinfeld@...>
 

A recent posting discussed the origin of this given name.
Would the respondent please re-send the information to me.
It is not yet archived.


Thanks,



Alan Steinfeld


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Vansburg #general

jebenhausen@...
 

This is doubtlessly Vandsburg, formerly in the district (Kreis) of Flatow
in West Prussia (Westpreussen) - nowadays Wiêcbork in Poland. Note that the
Polish State Archives at Bydgoszcz have birth, marriage and death registers
of the Vandsburg Jewish community covering the years 1825-1847, and I am
told the church of LDS have microfilmed these registers.


Hope this helps,

--
Jacques Bauland
Marsaxlokk, Malta

Jebenhausen - A Jewish Community in Wuerttemberg
http://www.worldzone.net/family/jebenhausen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: online phone book #general

Greenpass@...
 

Adam,

Could you tell us which on-line telephone web site you used to find this
information.

Lillian Henking Greenberg
Bethesda, Md.

Researching: HENKIN/GENKIN ->Nevel/Vitebsk, St Petersburg, Belarus/Russia
MAGID ->Nevel/Vitebsk Belarus/Russia
ZELDA (ZINA) MAGID LIPMAN ->England
STVOLINSKY ->Nevel/Vitebsk Belarus/Russia
KWIATEK ->Lutostan, Lumza Poland
GREENBERG ->Pultusk, Poland, Brooklyn, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given name Tonchin #general

Alan Steinfeld <alan.steinfeld@...>
 

A recent posting discussed the origin of this given name.
Would the respondent please re-send the information to me.
It is not yet archived.


Thanks,



Alan Steinfeld


BLUSTEIN / BLUSHTEIN #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear all.

On behalf of my good friend Meir Eshel (Vagshul).
His grandfather was Dr. Meir Blushtein >from Stopnitza, Poland, his mother
is Lea (Lola), she had few brothers, one of them was sent with her to
concentration camp and worked in "Hasag" ammunition factory.
Her brother, Leon Blushtein, was heart in his eye and was taken by the
Germans, in 1941 or 1942. Since then there was no connection or any sign.
A friend of Lola, who was with her in the same camp, Getsel Liss, later
from NY, was the last witness who also gave Leon a piece of bread before
he was taken.

Regards. Udi Cain.


Russian Congregation question #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

What was meant by the designation "rusische shul" or "Russian
Congregation"? Were the founders >from Russia itself and not >from the
"Pale of Settlement"? Or were the founders >from Ukraine which was often
considered part of Russia itself as opposed to those >from Lithuania and
Poland?

I am inquiring specifically about the rusische or Russian Congregation
Anshei Sfard in Brockton, Massachusetts. Did all "Russian Congregations"
follow Nusach Sfard?

Steven Weiss
Chicago
HURWITZ and SCHWARTZBERG >from Brockton, MA


Holocaust Memorial Day #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

This Friday, fast of the tenth of Teveth was designated by the Chief
Rabbinate of Israel in the early days of the State as the day of general
kaddish for Holocaust victims. In practice, the custom is that people who
do not know when their family members were killed say kaddish on this day.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BLUSTEIN / BLUSHTEIN #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear all.

On behalf of my good friend Meir Eshel (Vagshul).
His grandfather was Dr. Meir Blushtein >from Stopnitza, Poland, his mother
is Lea (Lola), she had few brothers, one of them was sent with her to
concentration camp and worked in "Hasag" ammunition factory.
Her brother, Leon Blushtein, was heart in his eye and was taken by the
Germans, in 1941 or 1942. Since then there was no connection or any sign.
A friend of Lola, who was with her in the same camp, Getsel Liss, later
from NY, was the last witness who also gave Leon a piece of bread before
he was taken.

Regards. Udi Cain.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russian Congregation question #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

What was meant by the designation "rusische shul" or "Russian
Congregation"? Were the founders >from Russia itself and not >from the
"Pale of Settlement"? Or were the founders >from Ukraine which was often
considered part of Russia itself as opposed to those >from Lithuania and
Poland?

I am inquiring specifically about the rusische or Russian Congregation
Anshei Sfard in Brockton, Massachusetts. Did all "Russian Congregations"
follow Nusach Sfard?

Steven Weiss
Chicago
HURWITZ and SCHWARTZBERG >from Brockton, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust Memorial Day #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

This Friday, fast of the tenth of Teveth was designated by the Chief
Rabbinate of Israel in the early days of the State as the day of general
kaddish for Holocaust victims. In practice, the custom is that people who
do not know when their family members were killed say kaddish on this day.

Israel Pickholtz


Re: European Education #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 


I was telling a friend that another friend has traced their family back
to the 1500's. My friend told me that this was impossible because that
period of time was considered the Dark Ages and that written records were
not kept and that there was no possible way of this person or any person
going back that far in search for a Jewish family. She, being a teacher,
told me that the Jews back then did not write or read. I know that this
sounds ridiculous but I must check it out. I have searched my personal
library but unfortunately I cannot find any information on this. I really
need your help.
TIA,
Lois Friedman
The idea that Jews as a whole in 1500 were illiterate is indeed ridiculous,
as you say. As in other cultures (both then and now) some people could
read and some could not. Furthermore, if your teacher friend characterized
the 1500s as the Dark Ages, he or she is way out of line and should go
back to school on the other side of the desk! 1500 was not the Dark Ages,
even in the (then relatively backward) lands of Christendom -- and
certainly not in the lands of Islam for centuries prior to that -- a
flourishing and literate culture in which many Jews lived. The
expression "Dark Ages" is usually applied by Europeans to a much earlier
period, namely the early Middle Ages in Europe (say, between about 600-
1000 CE), and is in any case it is a very ethnocentric designation, as it
ignores the highly literate Islamic culture that flourished in those early
centuries (not to speak of others such as the Chinese).

While it is certainly true that most individuals in most cultures could not
read or write in 1500 (or for that matter even in 1800) this was probably
less true of the Jews, at least for males, many of whom were taught to read
Hebrew in order to recite lengthy daily prayers (the earliest written
Hebrew prayer book goes back to the 10th century) and the mitzvah of Torah
study. But in any case, people who were illiterate could seek the services
of scribes when they needed to record important information.

However, this much said, it is difficult (except for famous dynasties,
which among the Jews means the leading rabbinic dynasties) to trace
families back that far in almost any culture, because official record
keeping hardly existed back then, except for the church and the nobility.
One notable exception is Holland, where I have learned that general b/d/m
records do in fact go back to the 1500s.

Judith Romney Wegner


Eurocheck #general

David Gottdenker <davidg5@...>
 

After writing them, I received a notice >from the Osterriechisches
Staatsarchiv that there are assets in an account of an ancestor. To
provide details of the assets, they are requesting payment via
Eurocheck. How do I go about obtaining a Eurocheck in the U.S.?

Thanks!