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MAISEL / MEISEL #belarus

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

I am researching the HIRSOHN side of my family and have this little note
which states that our real name was Meisel. It was changed to a non-Jewish
name in order to buy a tavern. I guess in Belarus at that time Jews could
not own property and/or certain businesses.

I had almost forgotten about this little story. I would think Maisel
and Meisel aren't that far apart, right?

Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA


Belarus SIG #Belarus MAISEL / MEISEL #belarus

dorothy rivers <dotvic@...>
 

I am researching the HIRSOHN side of my family and have this little note
which states that our real name was Meisel. It was changed to a non-Jewish
name in order to buy a tavern. I guess in Belarus at that time Jews could
not own property and/or certain businesses.

I had almost forgotten about this little story. I would think Maisel
and Meisel aren't that far apart, right?

Dorothy Auerbach Rivers New Mexico, USA


POPOVA GORA, S #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I found my grandmothers maiden name listed in the Surname search
ZALMINOVICH the town listed is Popova Gors S, Uzed Surazh, Gubernia
Chernigov. Does anyone know where this is located. it is listed in
1895.
Thank you for your help
Renee Marcus
Researching
Zalminovic, Frayerman, Freyerman, Markus


Belarus SIG #Belarus POPOVA GORA, S #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I found my grandmothers maiden name listed in the Surname search
ZALMINOVICH the town listed is Popova Gors S, Uzed Surazh, Gubernia
Chernigov. Does anyone know where this is located. it is listed in
1895.
Thank you for your help
Renee Marcus
Researching
Zalminovic, Frayerman, Freyerman, Markus


Status of Translation and Indexing of Minsk Gubernia Revision List #belarus

Susan Goldsmith
 

What is the status of translation and indexing of the Minsk Gubernia
Revision List? What is the date of the Revision List are we referring to?
How much money is required? How much has been raised? It would be very
helpful if our Belarus site could post such information in general. I would
like to contribute, but would like to have this information. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Susan Goldsmith
Piedmont CA
jcwsmg@sprintmail.com

Researching HOROWITZ, DROSNAN Dolginovo
TOBIAS Novyy Sverzhen


Belarus SIG #Belarus Status of Translation and Indexing of Minsk Gubernia Revision List #belarus

Susan Goldsmith
 

What is the status of translation and indexing of the Minsk Gubernia
Revision List? What is the date of the Revision List are we referring to?
How much money is required? How much has been raised? It would be very
helpful if our Belarus site could post such information in general. I would
like to contribute, but would like to have this information. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Susan Goldsmith
Piedmont CA
jcwsmg@sprintmail.com

Researching HOROWITZ, DROSNAN Dolginovo
TOBIAS Novyy Sverzhen


Suggestion for Mitochondrial Result Notes #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I'm starting to look up my particular nucleotide substitutions on the Web,
but I'm not totally sure how to refer to the substitution positions.
Example: If I have a T at position 16112 on the mitochondrial D-Loop, at a
position where most other folks have a C, it seems as if I can search for
that substitution as "16112" or "16112C/T," or something like that.

But it looks to me as if some databases put a prefix like GI or something
like that before EACH position address.

I think it would be helpful if Family Tree DNA has a FAQ answer describing
some of the major ways to refer to mitochondrial DNA positions.

I also think it would be good if Family Tree DNA had a chart on its site
that people could use to convert Family Tree DNA position numbers into
Cambridge Reference System numbers. To me, it seems the current process
of finding a conversion chart and using it would be a little cumbersome
for the typical layperson.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri


DNA Research #DNA Suggestion for Mitochondrial Result Notes #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I'm starting to look up my particular nucleotide substitutions on the Web,
but I'm not totally sure how to refer to the substitution positions.
Example: If I have a T at position 16112 on the mitochondrial D-Loop, at a
position where most other folks have a C, it seems as if I can search for
that substitution as "16112" or "16112C/T," or something like that.

But it looks to me as if some databases put a prefix like GI or something
like that before EACH position address.

I think it would be helpful if Family Tree DNA has a FAQ answer describing
some of the major ways to refer to mitochondrial DNA positions.

I also think it would be good if Family Tree DNA had a chart on its site
that people could use to convert Family Tree DNA position numbers into
Cambridge Reference System numbers. To me, it seems the current process
of finding a conversion chart and using it would be a little cumbersome
for the typical layperson.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri


got my genes!! #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I just got my mitochondrial test results back and found I have
polymorphisms, if that's the right word, at 16112, 16224, 16226 and 16363.

The 16224 spot seems to have something to do with whether you're Finnish
or Basque, but I'm not sure because all I can read on Emory University's
Mitomap site are the abstracts, not the sections of the papers that
actually going into the nitty-gritty genetic details.

If you polymorph where I polymorph, even in one spot, please email me
privately and maybe we can talk family trees.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri
allbell@vnet.net


DNA Research #DNA got my genes!! #dna

Al Bell <allbell@...>
 

I just got my mitochondrial test results back and found I have
polymorphisms, if that's the right word, at 16112, 16224, 16226 and 16363.

The 16224 spot seems to have something to do with whether you're Finnish
or Basque, but I'm not sure because all I can read on Emory University's
Mitomap site are the abstracts, not the sections of the papers that
actually going into the nitty-gritty genetic details.

If you polymorph where I polymorph, even in one spot, please email me
privately and maybe we can talk family trees.

a.l. bell
kansas city, missouri
allbell@vnet.net


Chaim Pertz GORDON #general

Yoni Shapiro <torahgen@...>
 

Does anyone have a Chaim pertz Gordon >from Luthinaia
in there records...
Yonasan Shapiro


Re: Passenger Listing #general

Howard Zakai
 

In a message dated 01/18/2001 3:15:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
herbiem@mindspring.com writes:

<< Diane Jacobs wrote in message
>I hate to throw a damper on this connection, but naturalization
>records are notorious for having incorrect information. I was doing
>a search for someone for April 7, 1903 and three ships they said
>their family came on at that time. I finally gave up looking for the
>ships and went to the soundex indexes. I finally found the person
>and lo and behold the April 7 was rightbut the year was l904.
>
>There is no guarantee if any or part of the information you have
>on the naturalization papers are incorrect. >>

Indeed you are correct. I have learned that passengers coming before 1906
did not have to prove when they arrived. But afterwards, they did. My
great-grandfather had his certificate of arrival with his naturalization
papers so everything matched up, but he listed his wife's arrival
incorrectly as he did not have to prove her arrival.
I have unfortunately learned not to take all information seriously.
Soundex indicies, although harder to research are infallible.

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, NY


Sadowne Poland #general

esta <ehome@...>
 

Looking for anyone >from that village
I am looking for information on Sadowne (sadobne) Poland. Anyone who
had family there. Am trying to trace my husband's family >from that
town.

The family name I'm looking for is Ofgang or Zbrak (Tzbrak).

I can be reached at given e-mail:ehome@barak-online.net

Esta Dekel


Paterson Cemeteries #general

Yoni Shapiro <torahgen@...>
 

Does anyone know if there are any cemertaries near
Paterson, NJ ????
Yonasan Shapiro

MODERATOR NOTE: Check out the IAJGS International Cemetery Project's
New Jersey webpage at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/northamerica/us/nj.html>,
where you will find many Cemeteries that are close to Paterson.


SWERNOFSKY/HECHT/KATZENELENSON #general

Herb Sollinger
 

Looking for a family named SWERNOFSKY >from what is now Belarus. Ben
HECHT of Chicago, famous American author, was a cousin, but I don't
know how. Possibly he was related to Fanny KATZENELENSON orig from
Bobruisk, Belarus(Russia) who lived in NYC. Ben Hecht's mother was a
Swernofsky.

Herb Sollinger
Uniondale, NY


Re: Ike LONDON #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Plotzk is a much bigger city by the fact that I have heard of it. Ripin
is smaller because I haven't. For more precise information, check an
on-line map or gazeteer (or another genner who will give you exact
information). ;-)

All secondary information is suspect. He said so-and-so in his
Russian/Yiddish/German (whatever) accent, and the clerk wrote down one
thing or another. The only way of knowing the ship and time is to find
him on a passenger list. Remember, his name may not have been London
but something else, so you may never find it. I know because I have
searched for years for my great grandparents who came at such and such a
time to NY. I am sure they swam.

In the US, a German is a German. We know it wasn't that way in Europe,
but we were at war with Germany, and who was to say your wife was not
the daughter of Kaiser Wilhelm.

Ike could have been Israel Lazowsky-but you cannot assume that. He
could have been 19 or 22 or something else. He could have been on
another ship. It may have been just before or after midnight and the
date is wrong by 1. It could be another date all together. He probably
sailed out of Holland-which is too bad, Hamburg Passenger Lists exist.

Check early directories in NY or wherever he lived. Check whatever you
can. He may have changed his name somewhat after he came, and if he was
Israel Lazowsky you may be able to find him with his wife (and maybe
kids) and be able to say with some degree of certainty that this guy was
married to a woman with the same name, kids with the same name, the ages
are right, so it probably is him.

Keep on trying,

Sally


Searching... #general

Yoni Shapiro <torahgen@...>
 

Abella Pinczow Poland
Bley Texas USA
Cohen Jerusalem Israel
Fajnstadt Pinczow Poland
Flatau Suwalki Poland
Grossman Stropkov Slovakia
Jaworkowski Filipow Poland
Kolko Grajewo Poland
Levin Sztabin Poland
Liebman Kobrin Belarus
Fishel,Yudel Lazer Morris Rochester,NY
Nusbaum Grajewo Poland
Yitzchok Wolker and familyFrysztak Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaim Pertz GORDON #general

Yoni Shapiro <torahgen@...>
 

Does anyone have a Chaim pertz Gordon >from Luthinaia
in there records...
Yonasan Shapiro


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Passenger Listing #general

Howard Zakai
 

In a message dated 01/18/2001 3:15:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
herbiem@mindspring.com writes:

<< Diane Jacobs wrote in message
>I hate to throw a damper on this connection, but naturalization
>records are notorious for having incorrect information. I was doing
>a search for someone for April 7, 1903 and three ships they said
>their family came on at that time. I finally gave up looking for the
>ships and went to the soundex indexes. I finally found the person
>and lo and behold the April 7 was rightbut the year was l904.
>
>There is no guarantee if any or part of the information you have
>on the naturalization papers are incorrect. >>

Indeed you are correct. I have learned that passengers coming before 1906
did not have to prove when they arrived. But afterwards, they did. My
great-grandfather had his certificate of arrival with his naturalization
papers so everything matched up, but he listed his wife's arrival
incorrectly as he did not have to prove her arrival.
I have unfortunately learned not to take all information seriously.
Soundex indicies, although harder to research are infallible.

Howie Zakai
Staten Island, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sadowne Poland #general

esta <ehome@...>
 

Looking for anyone >from that village
I am looking for information on Sadowne (sadobne) Poland. Anyone who
had family there. Am trying to trace my husband's family >from that
town.

The family name I'm looking for is Ofgang or Zbrak (Tzbrak).

I can be reached at given e-mail:ehome@barak-online.net

Esta Dekel