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ROSENER #usa

Herb Sollinger
 

Researching the family ROSENER.Originally >from West Prussia. Immigrated
in mid 1800s.Father was Philip ROSENER, mother Theresa ROSENBAUM
Rosener. Children= Gus (m. Lizzie), Julius(m. Nellie GOLDSMITH), Jacob
(Jack)(m. Miryam), Henry( Harry),Blanche or Beatrice. This family lived
in the Philadelphia area. Last family contact was around 1900, when my
great aunt Emma Kroll COHN visited them in Philadelphia >from NYC
Herb Sollinger
Uniondale, NY


Early American SIG #USA ROSENER #usa

Herb Sollinger
 

Researching the family ROSENER.Originally >from West Prussia. Immigrated
in mid 1800s.Father was Philip ROSENER, mother Theresa ROSENBAUM
Rosener. Children= Gus (m. Lizzie), Julius(m. Nellie GOLDSMITH), Jacob
(Jack)(m. Miryam), Henry( Harry),Blanche or Beatrice. This family lived
in the Philadelphia area. Last family contact was around 1900, when my
great aunt Emma Kroll COHN visited them in Philadelphia >from NYC
Herb Sollinger
Uniondale, NY


Records from the old Philadelphia Congregation Rodeph Shalom #usa

Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
 

I have been attempting to put together a data base of about 800 marriage
records and 1200 circumcision records >from the Congregation Rodeph Shalom in Philadelphia. The circumcision records begin with several entries in Schwarza, Germany in 1835. The Philadelphia records are predominately from
1848 - 1864. There are also many records >from other small Philadelphia
communities and Trenton, NJ. The marriage records are roughly for this
same time period and are a very nice accompanyment to the circumcision
records.

I have already submitted a proposal to Jewishgen to host this database.

They have accepted my request and I am working to finish all of the data
entry. Everything in English has been entered. However, only about half of the Hebrew has even been sent to individuals to translate and so far I have only received about 10% completed.

I desperately need several more volunteers who can help translate the
Hebrew. It is essentially only the Hebrew name of the father and Hebrew
name of the son. This information is vital for the database as the
information in English in most cases only contains a father's first initi al
in script that is often hard for me to read and perhaps only 10% of the
birth records contain name of child.

If you are interested in helping I am even willing to go through and search
out certain surnames for you. (Meaning you can translate only those pages
that include surnames that you are interested in researching. ) This is
what I have been doing for the individuals that have been helping me. In total there are 102 pages and each page contains about 12 records.

Please write to me directly if you can help. I don't want to send a coup le
of pages at a time, but if you can do 10 or more I would love your
assistance.

Janet Billstein Akaha
Salinas, CA


Early American SIG #USA Records from the old Philadelphia Congregation Rodeph Shalom #usa

Janet Akaha <Akaha@...>
 

I have been attempting to put together a data base of about 800 marriage
records and 1200 circumcision records >from the Congregation Rodeph Shalom in Philadelphia. The circumcision records begin with several entries in Schwarza, Germany in 1835. The Philadelphia records are predominately from
1848 - 1864. There are also many records >from other small Philadelphia
communities and Trenton, NJ. The marriage records are roughly for this
same time period and are a very nice accompanyment to the circumcision
records.

I have already submitted a proposal to Jewishgen to host this database.

They have accepted my request and I am working to finish all of the data
entry. Everything in English has been entered. However, only about half of the Hebrew has even been sent to individuals to translate and so far I have only received about 10% completed.

I desperately need several more volunteers who can help translate the
Hebrew. It is essentially only the Hebrew name of the father and Hebrew
name of the son. This information is vital for the database as the
information in English in most cases only contains a father's first initi al
in script that is often hard for me to read and perhaps only 10% of the
birth records contain name of child.

If you are interested in helping I am even willing to go through and search
out certain surnames for you. (Meaning you can translate only those pages
that include surnames that you are interested in researching. ) This is
what I have been doing for the individuals that have been helping me. In total there are 102 pages and each page contains about 12 records.

Please write to me directly if you can help. I don't want to send a coup le
of pages at a time, but if you can do 10 or more I would love your
assistance.

Janet Billstein Akaha
Salinas, CA


Re: [query: Anyone else have mtDNA haplotype H with 3 C- mutations on 189, 356, 362] #dna

Bcg <bcg@...>
 

Hi Judy


Normally I would expect to get a private message of this type, but since it
was "launched" in the Jewishgen forum, I'm happy to respond here.

On the female side there is a standard that was established 0 years ago
called the Cambridge Reference Sequence that looks at 400 base pairs near
the end of the mitochronia, which is provided to each person, male or
female, by their mother.

the red letters on our reports indicate places on the Cambridge Reference
Sequence that you differ. If two people differ in exactly the same place
and with the same letter then they have a female ancestor in
common. Please with several deviations >from the Cambridge Reference
Sequence are probably more closely related then those that just have 1
deviation that is common to another person.

The way we might express these deviations would be 189C ad 311T (means that
you have a deviation form the Cambridge Reference Sequence in both position
189 an 311 and that the deviation was by a C and T respectively) in that
way you can compare yourself to another person.

In the near future we will have built a phylogenic tree, and or search
that will allow people to see if someone else in our database matches your
deviations form the Standard. That would mean that those (that) other
person is a genetic cousin on the female side.


Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston


At 03:39 PM 01/13/2001 -0800, you wrote:
I think you know more about this than I do.

My certificate has ten columns numbered ten thru one-hundred and each
column has four seperate series of letters. I have a red "c" at the
front of the last series on number 20. Does anyone else out there
have one of these?

What is the Cambridge Reference Sequence and where can I go to read
up on it?

I hope someone sees this letter.

Sincerely, Yudy



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DNA Research #DNA Re: [query: Anyone else have mtDNA haplotype H with 3 C- mutations on 189, 356, 362] #dna

Bcg <bcg@...>
 

Hi Judy


Normally I would expect to get a private message of this type, but since it
was "launched" in the Jewishgen forum, I'm happy to respond here.

On the female side there is a standard that was established 0 years ago
called the Cambridge Reference Sequence that looks at 400 base pairs near
the end of the mitochronia, which is provided to each person, male or
female, by their mother.

the red letters on our reports indicate places on the Cambridge Reference
Sequence that you differ. If two people differ in exactly the same place
and with the same letter then they have a female ancestor in
common. Please with several deviations >from the Cambridge Reference
Sequence are probably more closely related then those that just have 1
deviation that is common to another person.

The way we might express these deviations would be 189C ad 311T (means that
you have a deviation form the Cambridge Reference Sequence in both position
189 an 311 and that the deviation was by a C and T respectively) in that
way you can compare yourself to another person.

In the near future we will have built a phylogenic tree, and or search
that will allow people to see if someone else in our database matches your
deviations form the Standard. That would mean that those (that) other
person is a genetic cousin on the female side.


Bennett Greenspan FTDNA Houston


At 03:39 PM 01/13/2001 -0800, you wrote:
I think you know more about this than I do.

My certificate has ten columns numbered ten thru one-hundred and each
column has four seperate series of letters. I have a red "c" at the
front of the last series on number 20. Does anyone else out there
have one of these?

What is the Cambridge Reference Sequence and where can I go to read
up on it?

I hope someone sees this letter.

Sincerely, Yudy



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Re: Cambridge Reference Sequence #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Hi Judy--
You wrote:
<< What is the Cambridge Reference Sequence and where can I go to read
up on it? >>

Try these sites:

http://www.gen.emory.edu/MITOMAP/mitoseq.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/Entrez/framik?db=Genome&gi=12188

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/projects/dna/paper.html (this paper current only
to 1995)

http://shelob.bioanth.cam.ac.uk/mtDNA/toc.html (1998 update)

Donn Devine, CG, CGI
Wilmington Delaware USA

CG, Certified Genealogist, CGI, and Certified Genealogical Instructor are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under
license by board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations,
and the board name is registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.


DNA Research #DNA Re: Cambridge Reference Sequence #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Hi Judy--
You wrote:
<< What is the Cambridge Reference Sequence and where can I go to read
up on it? >>

Try these sites:

http://www.gen.emory.edu/MITOMAP/mitoseq.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/Entrez/framik?db=Genome&gi=12188

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/projects/dna/paper.html (this paper current only
to 1995)

http://shelob.bioanth.cam.ac.uk/mtDNA/toc.html (1998 update)

Donn Devine, CG, CGI
Wilmington Delaware USA

CG, Certified Genealogist, CGI, and Certified Genealogical Instructor are
service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under
license by board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations,
and the board name is registered in the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.


Re: Bet Hatefutsoth and Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Please be aware that Bet Hatefutsoth does not rely
entirely on an article in any one reference book.
People add things all the time to the description of
various communities. I myself have updated the Iran
entries with the proper person at BH with more
information (which had stopped in 1950 until I added
more). So, in this case, the basis for the Gomel
article was obviously the JE article, but the person
who actually wrote the BH article had access to and
included more information than was in the JE article.
So, the 75-year rule will hold as I understand it, if
one uses the original JE article. Not if another source
is used. However, it may be possible to get permission
from BH to use their article.
One should also be aware that the BH photo division has
a very interesting collection. I am in contact with
Mike Meshenberg (Belarus SIG) about getting permission
from the division for including Belarus photographs.
My personal opinion is that the original JE articles
are better. One can always update with a separate
addendum. This is the joy of the JE - written so early
about a specific place, not superimposed on with later
events.
I have the original articles for Mogilev, etc. but they
are back in the states. If anyone would like to send it
to me, plus anywhere else in Belarus, I would be
pleased to type it out. Bobruisk, Vitebsk, Baranovich,
Orsha, etc. etc. but particularly my MOgilev!
Best regards,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net


---------------------------
Adarelanab@cs.com wrote:

Yesterday I indicated that I have the article on Gomel >from the Jewish
Encyclopedia. Today I discovered that there may be an easier way to make
these articles available to everyone. I also have an on Gomel >from Bet
Hatfutsot (The Diaspora Museum) in Tel Aviv. The two articles are word
for word identical except for a short phrase in the Bet Hatfutsot article
about something that occurred in 1923. Since the Bet Hatfutsot articles
are already computerized, it seems like the effort can be avoided.
---------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Bet Hatefutsoth and Jewish Encyclopedia #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Please be aware that Bet Hatefutsoth does not rely
entirely on an article in any one reference book.
People add things all the time to the description of
various communities. I myself have updated the Iran
entries with the proper person at BH with more
information (which had stopped in 1950 until I added
more). So, in this case, the basis for the Gomel
article was obviously the JE article, but the person
who actually wrote the BH article had access to and
included more information than was in the JE article.
So, the 75-year rule will hold as I understand it, if
one uses the original JE article. Not if another source
is used. However, it may be possible to get permission
from BH to use their article.
One should also be aware that the BH photo division has
a very interesting collection. I am in contact with
Mike Meshenberg (Belarus SIG) about getting permission
from the division for including Belarus photographs.
My personal opinion is that the original JE articles
are better. One can always update with a separate
addendum. This is the joy of the JE - written so early
about a specific place, not superimposed on with later
events.
I have the original articles for Mogilev, etc. but they
are back in the states. If anyone would like to send it
to me, plus anywhere else in Belarus, I would be
pleased to type it out. Bobruisk, Vitebsk, Baranovich,
Orsha, etc. etc. but particularly my MOgilev!
Best regards,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net


---------------------------
Adarelanab@cs.com wrote:

Yesterday I indicated that I have the article on Gomel >from the Jewish
Encyclopedia. Today I discovered that there may be an easier way to make
these articles available to everyone. I also have an on Gomel >from Bet
Hatfutsot (The Diaspora Museum) in Tel Aviv. The two articles are word
for word identical except for a short phrase in the Bet Hatfutsot article
about something that occurred in 1923. Since the Bet Hatfutsot articles
are already computerized, it seems like the effort can be avoided.
---------------------------


copyright #belarus

Richard Sandler <DICKSAND@...>
 

I aways thought that one can copy anything in the library if it is for
personal use. Even in school copying articles are common place as long
as credit is given to the author and the article is not used for
commercial purposes.

Richard Sandler
Brooklyn , New york


Belarus SIG #Belarus copyright #belarus

Richard Sandler <DICKSAND@...>
 

I aways thought that one can copy anything in the library if it is for
personal use. Even in school copying articles are common place as long
as credit is given to the author and the article is not used for
commercial purposes.

Richard Sandler
Brooklyn , New york


ZALMINOVICH/FREYERMAN #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I wish to thank the belarus web page because of all there listings I was
able to find my great grandparents name and discover there true place of
residence. ZALMINOVICH did own a grocery store in Klimovichskii Mogilev
as I was told by my mother about her mothers family. All I had to go on
was that little information about a store and a passport name. I look
forward to new information >from the Belarus web site. This is the first
information that I have found in my three year search. Thank you again
and to all the volunteers that typed it all out. God Bless all of you.
I was also able to locate a cousin on my fathers side because of Romanian
sig. God Bless Joel for doing all the work that he has done. None of
this would have been possible without the Jewish gen web site.

Renee Marcus
Searching for ZALMINOVICH/FREYERMAN


Belarus SIG #Belarus ZALMINOVICH/FREYERMAN #belarus

renee1056@...
 

I wish to thank the belarus web page because of all there listings I was
able to find my great grandparents name and discover there true place of
residence. ZALMINOVICH did own a grocery store in Klimovichskii Mogilev
as I was told by my mother about her mothers family. All I had to go on
was that little information about a store and a passport name. I look
forward to new information >from the Belarus web site. This is the first
information that I have found in my three year search. Thank you again
and to all the volunteers that typed it all out. God Bless all of you.
I was also able to locate a cousin on my fathers side because of Romanian
sig. God Bless Joel for doing all the work that he has done. None of
this would have been possible without the Jewish gen web site.

Renee Marcus
Searching for ZALMINOVICH/FREYERMAN


Surnames in Cuba and South America - origins? #general

Ben Fox <bfgp@...>
 

In Latin America (and Spain) it is customary for children to bear
both the father's and mother's surname.
Does anyone know where this traditon originates? I have discovered that
someone on my family tree >from Liepaja (was Libava) in Latvia appeared
to have a double barrelled surname. The first part was a shortened
version of his mother's surname, and the last part was his father's
surname in full.

I am not unsure whether his father's name is double barrelled as well,
or whether the name "Azriel" was a middle name.

Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,

Gail

For example, I was Maria
Fernandez Rosales before I married. Women used their married
names as an addendum to their maiden names. My mother was Nilda
Rosales de Fernandez in Cuba (the "de" means literally "of").
When children were born, they would have a compound surname. If
you didn't have the double surname, people knew you were the
product of a relationship outside of marriage. Women were always
very proud of bearing their father's surname besides their
husbands (at least my mother always was). This custom still
abounds in the Spanish-speaking countries. Hope this helps.
Kindest Regards,
:) Maria Krane <MariaKrane@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames in Cuba and South America - origins? #general

Ben Fox <bfgp@...>
 

In Latin America (and Spain) it is customary for children to bear
both the father's and mother's surname.
Does anyone know where this traditon originates? I have discovered that
someone on my family tree >from Liepaja (was Libava) in Latvia appeared
to have a double barrelled surname. The first part was a shortened
version of his mother's surname, and the last part was his father's
surname in full.

I am not unsure whether his father's name is double barrelled as well,
or whether the name "Azriel" was a middle name.

Any suggestions would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,

Gail

For example, I was Maria
Fernandez Rosales before I married. Women used their married
names as an addendum to their maiden names. My mother was Nilda
Rosales de Fernandez in Cuba (the "de" means literally "of").
When children were born, they would have a compound surname. If
you didn't have the double surname, people knew you were the
product of a relationship outside of marriage. Women were always
very proud of bearing their father's surname besides their
husbands (at least my mother always was). This custom still
abounds in the Spanish-speaking countries. Hope this helps.
Kindest Regards,
:) Maria Krane <MariaKrane@aol.com>


Morris FEIGEN - SS-5 #general

Sally Hohensee <hohensees@...>
 

I have the Social Security application for Morris FEIGEN, born 1917
in Minnesota, father Isreal FEIGEN, mother Jennie MEIZLIN. Resident
of California in 1938. If he is "yours" please contact me at
HohenseeS@hotmail.com and I will be happy to mail it to you.

Sally Hohensee
Prairie Village, Kansas, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morris FEIGEN - SS-5 #general

Sally Hohensee <hohensees@...>
 

I have the Social Security application for Morris FEIGEN, born 1917
in Minnesota, father Isreal FEIGEN, mother Jennie MEIZLIN. Resident
of California in 1938. If he is "yours" please contact me at
HohenseeS@hotmail.com and I will be happy to mail it to you.

Sally Hohensee
Prairie Village, Kansas, USA


Klarsfeld's Book on Jewish Deportees From Belgium #general

Jerry Dressner <idajer@...>
 

Does anyone know where I can purchase a copy of the book, "Memorial de
la Deportation des Juifs de Belgique"? It was compiled by Serge
Klarsfeld and Maxime Steinberg. I don't know the publisher or the date
of publication.

Jerry Dressner
Lake Worth
Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Klarsfeld's Book on Jewish Deportees From Belgium #general

Jerry Dressner <idajer@...>
 

Does anyone know where I can purchase a copy of the book, "Memorial de
la Deportation des Juifs de Belgique"? It was compiled by Serge
Klarsfeld and Maxime Steinberg. I don't know the publisher or the date
of publication.

Jerry Dressner
Lake Worth
Florida