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Gesher Galica Membership
#galicia
Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
I just received my yearly membership form for Gesher Galicia. I remember
from our recent group discussion of the pros/cons of a printed vs. onlinenewsletter, that several people mentioned they have never seen the newsletter. I thought that this may be an opportune time for some on this discussion group to check out the 2001 'Gesher Galicia Family Finder' and 'Galitzianer' Newsletter. Membership is only $20 a year w/in the U.S./Canada and $27 outside the U.S./Canada. Personally, I always enjoy receiving this material, and thought non-members on the list may want to get the full Galician experience. (grin) Debbie Raff;-) California
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Gesher Galica Membership
#galicia
Debbie Raff <seraff@...>
I just received my yearly membership form for Gesher Galicia. I remember
from our recent group discussion of the pros/cons of a printed vs. onlinenewsletter, that several people mentioned they have never seen the newsletter. I thought that this may be an opportune time for some on this discussion group to check out the 2001 'Gesher Galicia Family Finder' and 'Galitzianer' Newsletter. Membership is only $20 a year w/in the U.S./Canada and $27 outside the U.S./Canada. Personally, I always enjoy receiving this material, and thought non-members on the list may want to get the full Galician experience. (grin) Debbie Raff;-) California
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Re: S.S. Koeln 1899
#general
barrychernick@...
Dan wrote,
"I'm trying to find an ancestor who supposedly sailed >from Bremen to Baltimore on the Koeln on July 2, 1899. When looking at the passenger lists for this time period, I did not see any listing for the Koeln. Is there a way to find out when and where this ship sailed around this time? (The Morton Allen directory doesn't list the Koeln until 1901)." The NARA (National Archives) has an index of Baltimore arrivals, if my memory serves me, cover the dates you are interested in. If you can find your relative in the index you can request a copy of the passenger list from the NARA.Are you sure that your relative arrived in 1899? I seem to have spent years chasing arrivals that were one or more years in error. My ancestors had the ships correct but not the year. Barry Chernick CHERNICK, CHERNIK, CZERNIK - StaroKonstantinov, Krasilov, Volocisk MITTLEMAN - Tchan (Tiofipol), Satanov SCHULMAN, SHULMAN - Dolhinov, Minsk, Bialystok KARP, CARPE ? Minsk, Bialystok MODERATOR NOTE: Yes, there are indexes to the Baltimore arrivals. See http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/PassLists/Baltimore.html
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: S.S. Koeln 1899
#general
barrychernick@...
Dan wrote,
"I'm trying to find an ancestor who supposedly sailed >from Bremen to Baltimore on the Koeln on July 2, 1899. When looking at the passenger lists for this time period, I did not see any listing for the Koeln. Is there a way to find out when and where this ship sailed around this time? (The Morton Allen directory doesn't list the Koeln until 1901)." The NARA (National Archives) has an index of Baltimore arrivals, if my memory serves me, cover the dates you are interested in. If you can find your relative in the index you can request a copy of the passenger list from the NARA.Are you sure that your relative arrived in 1899? I seem to have spent years chasing arrivals that were one or more years in error. My ancestors had the ships correct but not the year. Barry Chernick CHERNICK, CHERNIK, CZERNIK - StaroKonstantinov, Krasilov, Volocisk MITTLEMAN - Tchan (Tiofipol), Satanov SCHULMAN, SHULMAN - Dolhinov, Minsk, Bialystok KARP, CARPE ? Minsk, Bialystok MODERATOR NOTE: Yes, there are indexes to the Baltimore arrivals. See http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/PassLists/Baltimore.html
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The town of "Shalat" Austria
#general
Pamela Weisberger <thewks@...>
Dear Genners:
I just received the 1919 NYC marriage certificate of my grandparents in which my grandfather, Samuel Greenhaut, lists his town/country of birth as: "Shalat, Austria." On the shtetlfiner there is only one similar listing--that of "Shlatt, Austria" and many other towns with similar Soundex matches for many other countries. Yet, since he always identified himself as Austrian, and, as family lore has it, he spent some time in Vienna, living with relatives and working as a lamplighter, before emigrating to the states as a teenager in the early 1900s, it would seem that his town, indeed, was in Austria. Although the marriage certificate was filled in by him (in his own handwriting), it is possible he misspelled the town's name. Does anyone have any information on this town (either spelling) and it's Jewish history? The only story we have is that his family owned a "ranch" which was burned to the ground by (I assume) unfriendly forces of the time. Many thanks! Pamela Weisberger Santa Monica, CA thewks@hotmail.com Researching: WEISS/SINGER/WEISBERGER/EISNER-Csap/Cop/Hungary (Ukraine) BRAUN/GROSS-Karasz,Gyulahaz,Tiszaszalka, Hungary GINSBERG/GREENHAUT-Austria OBERMAN/BESSER-Czestochowa,Warsaw/Poland
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The town of "Shalat" Austria
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Pamela Weisberger <thewks@...>
Dear Genners:
I just received the 1919 NYC marriage certificate of my grandparents in which my grandfather, Samuel Greenhaut, lists his town/country of birth as: "Shalat, Austria." On the shtetlfiner there is only one similar listing--that of "Shlatt, Austria" and many other towns with similar Soundex matches for many other countries. Yet, since he always identified himself as Austrian, and, as family lore has it, he spent some time in Vienna, living with relatives and working as a lamplighter, before emigrating to the states as a teenager in the early 1900s, it would seem that his town, indeed, was in Austria. Although the marriage certificate was filled in by him (in his own handwriting), it is possible he misspelled the town's name. Does anyone have any information on this town (either spelling) and it's Jewish history? The only story we have is that his family owned a "ranch" which was burned to the ground by (I assume) unfriendly forces of the time. Many thanks! Pamela Weisberger Santa Monica, CA thewks@hotmail.com Researching: WEISS/SINGER/WEISBERGER/EISNER-Csap/Cop/Hungary (Ukraine) BRAUN/GROSS-Karasz,Gyulahaz,Tiszaszalka, Hungary GINSBERG/GREENHAUT-Austria OBERMAN/BESSER-Czestochowa,Warsaw/Poland
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CWhippman@...
I came home >from work to find Arlene Beare's lovely but somewhat blush
making message. What I know >from my co-ordinator job is that the real kudos go to the volunteers and donors. Believe me without them there would be no projects and no database! One of the things that is in the pipeline is a proper volunteer page with dedications and credits all collected together so that credit can be given to each and every person who has been so generous with time, skills and money. The main thing is that I think you will all really enjoy the latest Latvia SIG newsletter. Lesley Leven has made it look terrific and it is packed with information and updates. Pooling our information and data really has begun to bear fruit. Although we all communicate in cyberspace there is something special about seeing things in print, being able to sit over a cup of coffee reading through all the various contributions and re-read it >from a handbag on the train. Yes the new databases are coming. Watch this space over the next week or two for announcements. Not only are there Dvinsk lists but also lists >from Mitau, Tukums, The Kurland Young Men's Mutual Aid and the Extraordinary Commission records. Everyone of these projects is a group effort and I don't think there is a day that goes by without my feeling the force and inspiration of the collective effort. Anyway this is all getting slightly embarrassing and I just wanted to say thank you to Arlene for the kind words and now back to work. All the new volunteers will receive a personal note within the next 48 hours. I have been out of the country for the past week so I am now catching up slowly. Best regards to all, Constance
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CWhippman@...
I came home >from work to find Arlene Beare's lovely but somewhat blush
making message. What I know >from my co-ordinator job is that the real kudos go to the volunteers and donors. Believe me without them there would be no projects and no database! One of the things that is in the pipeline is a proper volunteer page with dedications and credits all collected together so that credit can be given to each and every person who has been so generous with time, skills and money. The main thing is that I think you will all really enjoy the latest Latvia SIG newsletter. Lesley Leven has made it look terrific and it is packed with information and updates. Pooling our information and data really has begun to bear fruit. Although we all communicate in cyberspace there is something special about seeing things in print, being able to sit over a cup of coffee reading through all the various contributions and re-read it >from a handbag on the train. Yes the new databases are coming. Watch this space over the next week or two for announcements. Not only are there Dvinsk lists but also lists >from Mitau, Tukums, The Kurland Young Men's Mutual Aid and the Extraordinary Commission records. Everyone of these projects is a group effort and I don't think there is a day that goes by without my feeling the force and inspiration of the collective effort. Anyway this is all getting slightly embarrassing and I just wanted to say thank you to Arlene for the kind words and now back to work. All the new volunteers will receive a personal note within the next 48 hours. I have been out of the country for the past week so I am now catching up slowly. Best regards to all, Constance
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Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
Thank for your responses to my question.
I would like to query the Wilhelm Stieda's text written in "Die Aerzte Kurlands" by I. Brennsohn of 1929. You see many names of town in the text. Although www.jewishgen.org/Courland/towns.htm and www.jewishgen.org/Courland/baltics.jpg are very useful, the towns (or seem to be towns) seen in Wilhelm Stieda's biography are still unfamiliar to me; like Dorpat, Kemmern, Kitschkas, Jekaterinoslaw, Galizien, Tiflis, Michailowskaja, Ter, Dobrjany (or Dorbjany?, according to other document). Which town belongs to Courland, and where is it in Courland? Which does not , and where? Akira Hashimoto, Nagoya, Japan I add the Wilhelm Stieda's short biography after "Die Aerzte Kurlands" by I. Brennsohn of 1929: Stieda, Wilhelm, geb. 31. Aug. 1875 a. St. in Petersburg als Sohn des Wegebauingenieurs Eugen St., bes. das Stadtgymn. in Riga 1886-94, stud. an d. mil.-med. akad. in Petersburg 94-99, Arzt cum eximia laude; war dann asseretatm. jueng. Beamter des Mediz.-Departem. 99-1903; zugleich Ordinator am Krankenhaus Nikolai des Wundertaeters in Petersburg 01-02; prom. 03 zum Dr. med. ebenfalls in Petersburg, nachdem er das Doktorexamen in Dorpat abgelegt hatte; setzte 03-04 seine Studien in Heidelberg fort u. war auch daselbst Volontaerassistent an d. Irrenklinik. Vom 1. Mai 1904 bis 1. Sept. 1909 zweiter Arzt der Irrenanstalt der kurlaend. Ritterschaft Guenthershof bei Mitau, dazwischen Mai 1904-April 1906 Reservearzt auf d. russ. japan. Kriegsschauplatz; liess sich im Aug. 1909 als freipraktiz. Arzt in Riga nieder, praktiz. bis 1910 in Riga, d. Sommer 10 in Kemmern, dann Leiter der Mennoniten-Irrenanst. "Bethania" zu Kitschkas im Gouv. Jekaterinoslaw. Erwarb Jan. 14 die Dr. Sokolowskische Nervenheilanst. in Thorensberg bei Riga, wurde jedoch bereits im Juli als Arzt d. Reserve in d. Militaerdienst einberufen, diente in Galizien, Tiflis, als Leiter der Irrenanst. der Terek-Kosaken zu Michailowskaja im Ter-Gebiet bis Herbst 1917, seit 1. Okt. 17 Gehilfe d. Bevollmaechtigten d. psychiatr. Organisation d. Rot. Kreuz. im Kaukasus, seit Jan. 1918 vom Dienst befreit, praktiz. er wieder seit Maerz 1918 in Riga. + am Flecktyph. zu Dobrjany anfang Mai 1920. Verm 10. Sept. 1907 m. Barbara Poorten, T. ein Rechtsanwalts in Dorpat.
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First Names from Czechoslovakia
#general
Dale and Rinnah <dburns60@...>
Hello everyone,
I have 2 Great-grandmothers >from Czechoslovakia. Their first names are JUTTE and KUNEGUNDA. Can anyone tell me what these names mean? Thank You, Rinnah Burns Akron,Ohio
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Akira Hashimoto <aha@...>
Thank for your responses to my question.
I would like to query the Wilhelm Stieda's text written in "Die Aerzte Kurlands" by I. Brennsohn of 1929. You see many names of town in the text. Although www.jewishgen.org/Courland/towns.htm and www.jewishgen.org/Courland/baltics.jpg are very useful, the towns (or seem to be towns) seen in Wilhelm Stieda's biography are still unfamiliar to me; like Dorpat, Kemmern, Kitschkas, Jekaterinoslaw, Galizien, Tiflis, Michailowskaja, Ter, Dobrjany (or Dorbjany?, according to other document). Which town belongs to Courland, and where is it in Courland? Which does not , and where? Akira Hashimoto, Nagoya, Japan I add the Wilhelm Stieda's short biography after "Die Aerzte Kurlands" by I. Brennsohn of 1929: Stieda, Wilhelm, geb. 31. Aug. 1875 a. St. in Petersburg als Sohn des Wegebauingenieurs Eugen St., bes. das Stadtgymn. in Riga 1886-94, stud. an d. mil.-med. akad. in Petersburg 94-99, Arzt cum eximia laude; war dann asseretatm. jueng. Beamter des Mediz.-Departem. 99-1903; zugleich Ordinator am Krankenhaus Nikolai des Wundertaeters in Petersburg 01-02; prom. 03 zum Dr. med. ebenfalls in Petersburg, nachdem er das Doktorexamen in Dorpat abgelegt hatte; setzte 03-04 seine Studien in Heidelberg fort u. war auch daselbst Volontaerassistent an d. Irrenklinik. Vom 1. Mai 1904 bis 1. Sept. 1909 zweiter Arzt der Irrenanstalt der kurlaend. Ritterschaft Guenthershof bei Mitau, dazwischen Mai 1904-April 1906 Reservearzt auf d. russ. japan. Kriegsschauplatz; liess sich im Aug. 1909 als freipraktiz. Arzt in Riga nieder, praktiz. bis 1910 in Riga, d. Sommer 10 in Kemmern, dann Leiter der Mennoniten-Irrenanst. "Bethania" zu Kitschkas im Gouv. Jekaterinoslaw. Erwarb Jan. 14 die Dr. Sokolowskische Nervenheilanst. in Thorensberg bei Riga, wurde jedoch bereits im Juli als Arzt d. Reserve in d. Militaerdienst einberufen, diente in Galizien, Tiflis, als Leiter der Irrenanst. der Terek-Kosaken zu Michailowskaja im Ter-Gebiet bis Herbst 1917, seit 1. Okt. 17 Gehilfe d. Bevollmaechtigten d. psychiatr. Organisation d. Rot. Kreuz. im Kaukasus, seit Jan. 1918 vom Dienst befreit, praktiz. er wieder seit Maerz 1918 in Riga. + am Flecktyph. zu Dobrjany anfang Mai 1920. Verm 10. Sept. 1907 m. Barbara Poorten, T. ein Rechtsanwalts in Dorpat.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen First Names from Czechoslovakia
#general
Dale and Rinnah <dburns60@...>
Hello everyone,
I have 2 Great-grandmothers >from Czechoslovakia. Their first names are JUTTE and KUNEGUNDA. Can anyone tell me what these names mean? Thank You, Rinnah Burns Akron,Ohio
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Obtaining Form SS-5 without a Social Security Number
#general
Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Has anyone tried to obtain a Form SS-5 without supplying the applicant's
Social Security Number? If yes, I'd like to know if you were successful, especially if the person had a common surname. I know you pay for the search even if it yields no results, so I'd like to have some sense of the Social Security Administration's track record before deciding whether it is fruitful to try this approach. Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching: DIENER (Gorodenka, Ukr); KOFLER; SCHOR (Gorodenka. Ukr); SONNENBLUM; STUPP SCHAUDER; SCHIEBER; SCHNEID; SOCKEL (Solotwina, Ukr) DWORSKI; LEVATINSKY; MINSKY; SILVERSTEIN (Raczki, Pol) BRAMA; BRAUN / BROWN (Rypin, Pol); GRZEBIEN then GESBEN; LOPATKA (Sierpc, Pol)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obtaining Form SS-5 without a Social Security Number
#general
Deborah Dworski <ddworski@...>
Has anyone tried to obtain a Form SS-5 without supplying the applicant's
Social Security Number? If yes, I'd like to know if you were successful, especially if the person had a common surname. I know you pay for the search even if it yields no results, so I'd like to have some sense of the Social Security Administration's track record before deciding whether it is fruitful to try this approach. Deborah Dworski Arlington, Virginia U.S.A. searching: DIENER (Gorodenka, Ukr); KOFLER; SCHOR (Gorodenka. Ukr); SONNENBLUM; STUPP SCHAUDER; SCHIEBER; SCHNEID; SOCKEL (Solotwina, Ukr) DWORSKI; LEVATINSKY; MINSKY; SILVERSTEIN (Raczki, Pol) BRAMA; BRAUN / BROWN (Rypin, Pol); GRZEBIEN then GESBEN; LOPATKA (Sierpc, Pol)
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New Web Site
#lithuania
DrWASaxton@...
To all Rakishok (Rokiskis) researchers - and other LitvakSIG subscribers, as well:
A woman in London, Emma Freeman, has taken it upon herself to create a Web site about the shtetl of Abel (Obeliai). She is looking for input. Because of the close proximity of this northeast Lithuania shtetl to both Rakishok and Zarasai, and the documented interaction between all these towns, those researching these communities may have some valuable information for Emma. Others may have an interest and/or data, too. I know that she will greatly appreciate any help that you may give her. Please feel free to contact her privately about this at <em-ma@rocketmail.com>. Bill Saxton Boca Raton, Florida
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania New Web Site
#lithuania
DrWASaxton@...
To all Rakishok (Rokiskis) researchers - and other LitvakSIG subscribers, as well:
A woman in London, Emma Freeman, has taken it upon herself to create a Web site about the shtetl of Abel (Obeliai). She is looking for input. Because of the close proximity of this northeast Lithuania shtetl to both Rakishok and Zarasai, and the documented interaction between all these towns, those researching these communities may have some valuable information for Emma. Others may have an interest and/or data, too. I know that she will greatly appreciate any help that you may give her. Please feel free to contact her privately about this at <em-ma@rocketmail.com>. Bill Saxton Boca Raton, Florida
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FINKLEBERG? KRAMER? ROGOVOI?
#general
delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
I am trying to find out how the following person would be related to
my maternal Des Moines KRAMER and ROGOVOI family: According to the California Death Index Helen KRAMER ROGOVOI (whose mother's maiden name was FINKLEBERG) was born in Iowa on 10/23/1907 and died in Orange County, California on 1/19/1996. An elderly Des Moines KRAMER relative, who was a friend of Helen's, tells me that Helen was not related to "our" KRAMERs.- and as far as I know there are no FINKLEBERGS to whom I am related- but there a deceased paternal Des Moines relative married a Joe ROGOVOI (also deceased). Joe had relatives named Kitty, Sam and Harry so I'm hoping someone can connect the unusual ROGOVOI surname to Helen. Stacy Harris
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FINKLEBERG? KRAMER? ROGOVOI?
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delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
I am trying to find out how the following person would be related to
my maternal Des Moines KRAMER and ROGOVOI family: According to the California Death Index Helen KRAMER ROGOVOI (whose mother's maiden name was FINKLEBERG) was born in Iowa on 10/23/1907 and died in Orange County, California on 1/19/1996. An elderly Des Moines KRAMER relative, who was a friend of Helen's, tells me that Helen was not related to "our" KRAMERs.- and as far as I know there are no FINKLEBERGS to whom I am related- but there a deceased paternal Des Moines relative married a Joe ROGOVOI (also deceased). Joe had relatives named Kitty, Sam and Harry so I'm hoping someone can connect the unusual ROGOVOI surname to Helen. Stacy Harris
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BARNETT, SERRINS
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delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
I am seeking information on the family of Joel Adlai SERRINS who was
born and who died in Los Angeles on the same date: October 22, 1958, according to the California Death Index. Joel's mother's maiden name was BARNETT I am trying to figure out among my SERRINS and BARNETT relatives who Joel's parents siblings would be. Stacy Harris
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BARNETT, SERRINS
#general
delete_this_to_reply_stacy_harris@...
I am seeking information on the family of Joel Adlai SERRINS who was
born and who died in Los Angeles on the same date: October 22, 1958, according to the California Death Index. Joel's mother's maiden name was BARNETT I am trying to figure out among my SERRINS and BARNETT relatives who Joel's parents siblings would be. Stacy Harris
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