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Re: jri-pl digest: February 02, 2001 #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 2/3/01 1:15:20 AM, jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Gminy Potok Zloty >>

"Gminy" was an administrative unit in Congress Poland. The word means
community. It could be one town or a group of small towns. This is the
community of Potok Zloty (zloty means gold). I've seen reference to this
town, but I can't remember where.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


1896 Birth Certificate--only one date?! #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am not sure what to make of the document below. It is a birth
certificate >from Piotrkow (north of Czestochowa), >from 1896. Unlike
the usual document >from this time period, there is only one date give
for the birth and for the day of registration. What should I make of
this? I would like to record a birth day--but should I interpret the
date as being in the old calendar or the new calendar??

Smallest file
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34S.jpg

Larger file--better quality
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34M.jpg

Very large file--excellent quality, but needs scrolling
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34L.jpg

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Piotrkow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul and Aleppo & Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Re: New Search Engines #poland

MILTGOLD@...
 

In a message dated 2/2/01 12:04:56 PM, EDENSARA@aol.com writes:

<< The following is a list of specialty search engines designed to make
finding
deeply imbedded data which exists in cyberspace:

CompletePlanet www.completeplanet.com

Specialty Search Engines searchenginewatch.com/links/Specialty_Search

Direct Search gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~gprice/direct/htm

Overview of Specialized Search Engines
websearch.about.com/Internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa030698.htm

Perhaps one or more of them will prove useful in our genealogical research.
>>

Thanks for sharing and posting the above leads, all of which I didn't know
about. However, not to top what you provided above, may I mention the two
perhaps consistently regarded as best genealogical search engines that Gary
Motokoff was good enough to share in a recent newsletter of his, and that
Drew Smith wrote about in a recent issue of Genealogical Computing by doing
research on hit rates--- alltheweb.com and google.com

However, a friend just told me of an enormous search engine that in the
website's words, represents--- "Over 500 of the Internet's best search
engines, databases, indexes, and directories in a single site. The
ALL-IN-ONE starting point for Internet searching!"

It is--- allonesearch.com [Notice that the separate words are "all one
search"]

I used it the other day, and found some leads I didn't know of, especially at
their People sublink (There's a list of alternative types of sites on their
home page, and you select one set at a time.)

Best of luck!

Milton R. Goldsamt
Silver Spring, MD
miltgold.com

***********

Researching: GOLDSAMT/GOLDSAND/GOLDSAM (Within Galicia--- Bochnia/Wisnicz
Nowy, Krakow, Limanowa, Nowy Sacz, Podgorze, Szczawnica, Tarnow, and
Wieliczka, Poland), GOLDZAND (Czyzewo and Zdunska Wola, Poland), and
GOLDZAMD (Lutsk and Lotache, Volhyn). Also, BALDINGER (Nowy Sacz, Poland).

Also researching outside of Galicia: GOLDZANT (Zareby Koscielne, Poland),
GOLDZAMD (Tomaszow Lubelski, Poland), ABRAMOWITZ (Ilowa, Russia), and LASKY
(Lodz, Poland)


Additional Hamburg passengers on list online #poland

BARBARU@...
 

I thought that those of you who had ancestors who left Europe via Hamburg
might want to know that the list of Hamburg passengers has been expanded. In
addition to the list for 1890, the list of those who left via Hamburg in 1891
has now been completed and there are partial lists for 1892, 1893 and 1894.
Good luck in your searches.

<A HREF="http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/welcome.htm">Hamburg
passengers</A> or go to:
http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/start.htm

Barbara Adelman Seidman
NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM/NUSSBAUMER/WERTHEIM Mieczyrzec/Seidlce/Warszawa Poland
ADELMAN/EDELMAN/EIDELMANN/COHEN Korsun/Kiyev Russia (Ukraine)
COHEN/KOHEN/KOGAN Podaliy/Odessa Russia (Ukraine)


JRI Poland #Poland Re: jri-pl digest: February 02, 2001 #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 2/3/01 1:15:20 AM, jri-pl@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Gminy Potok Zloty >>

"Gminy" was an administrative unit in Congress Poland. The word means
community. It could be one town or a group of small towns. This is the
community of Potok Zloty (zloty means gold). I've seen reference to this
town, but I can't remember where.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


JRI Poland #Poland 1896 Birth Certificate--only one date?! #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

I am not sure what to make of the document below. It is a birth
certificate >from Piotrkow (north of Czestochowa), >from 1896. Unlike
the usual document >from this time period, there is only one date give
for the birth and for the day of registration. What should I make of
this? I would like to record a birth day--but should I interpret the
date as being in the old calendar or the new calendar??

Smallest file
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34S.jpg

Larger file--better quality
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34M.jpg

Very large file--excellent quality, but needs scrolling
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/pol/TaHeRaB34L.jpg

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland--Czestochowa, Plawno, Radomsko, Przyrow, Mstow, Piotrkow, Zgierz
Ukraine--Proskurov, Zaslav, Krasilov, Medvedovka, Mikolayev, Mogilev
Turkey--Istanbul and Aleppo & Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JRI Poland #Poland Re: New Search Engines #poland

MILTGOLD@...
 

In a message dated 2/2/01 12:04:56 PM, EDENSARA@aol.com writes:

<< The following is a list of specialty search engines designed to make
finding
deeply imbedded data which exists in cyberspace:

CompletePlanet www.completeplanet.com

Specialty Search Engines searchenginewatch.com/links/Specialty_Search

Direct Search gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~gprice/direct/htm

Overview of Specialized Search Engines
websearch.about.com/Internet/websearch/library/weekly/aa030698.htm

Perhaps one or more of them will prove useful in our genealogical research.
>>

Thanks for sharing and posting the above leads, all of which I didn't know
about. However, not to top what you provided above, may I mention the two
perhaps consistently regarded as best genealogical search engines that Gary
Motokoff was good enough to share in a recent newsletter of his, and that
Drew Smith wrote about in a recent issue of Genealogical Computing by doing
research on hit rates--- alltheweb.com and google.com

However, a friend just told me of an enormous search engine that in the
website's words, represents--- "Over 500 of the Internet's best search
engines, databases, indexes, and directories in a single site. The
ALL-IN-ONE starting point for Internet searching!"

It is--- allonesearch.com [Notice that the separate words are "all one
search"]

I used it the other day, and found some leads I didn't know of, especially at
their People sublink (There's a list of alternative types of sites on their
home page, and you select one set at a time.)

Best of luck!

Milton R. Goldsamt
Silver Spring, MD
miltgold.com

***********

Researching: GOLDSAMT/GOLDSAND/GOLDSAM (Within Galicia--- Bochnia/Wisnicz
Nowy, Krakow, Limanowa, Nowy Sacz, Podgorze, Szczawnica, Tarnow, and
Wieliczka, Poland), GOLDZAND (Czyzewo and Zdunska Wola, Poland), and
GOLDZAMD (Lutsk and Lotache, Volhyn). Also, BALDINGER (Nowy Sacz, Poland).

Also researching outside of Galicia: GOLDZANT (Zareby Koscielne, Poland),
GOLDZAMD (Tomaszow Lubelski, Poland), ABRAMOWITZ (Ilowa, Russia), and LASKY
(Lodz, Poland)


JRI Poland #Poland Additional Hamburg passengers on list online #poland

BARBARU@...
 

I thought that those of you who had ancestors who left Europe via Hamburg
might want to know that the list of Hamburg passengers has been expanded. In
addition to the list for 1890, the list of those who left via Hamburg in 1891
has now been completed and there are partial lists for 1892, 1893 and 1894.
Good luck in your searches.

<A HREF="http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/welcome.htm">Hamburg
passengers</A> or go to:
http://www.hamburg.de/LinkToYourRoots/english/start.htm

Barbara Adelman Seidman
NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM/NUSSBAUMER/WERTHEIM Mieczyrzec/Seidlce/Warszawa Poland
ADELMAN/EDELMAN/EIDELMANN/COHEN Korsun/Kiyev Russia (Ukraine)
COHEN/KOHEN/KOGAN Podaliy/Odessa Russia (Ukraine)


Holon Cemetery look up advice #lithuania

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...>
 

I would appreciate some advice in tracking down the death certificate for a
great aunt who died in Israel in the 1950's. I have been informed by the
vital records office in Israel that the name of my great aunt is not
sufficient information and that I need her date of death. While her date
of death can be obtained >from a reading of her gravestone at the Holon
Cemetery in Bat Yam, I have no way to get this information. Is is possible
for me to write to the Cemetery and seek a look up of my great aunt's date
of death? Who might that be and what is the address to write to? Is there
someone who might be able to get this information for me by visiting the
grave site? I would be happy to pay for this service. I looking to
any suggestions because the death certificate of this particular relative
is key to my research on this family.

Jordan Konisky
Houston

RIMDZIUN/RYMDZIUN in Vilna, Vilijampole, Mikaliskes
VAKS, VAKS-ZYSKOND in Oshmiany, Vilna
HYMAN in Kovno
KONINISKI in Warsaw, Kolo, London

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Holon Cemetery look up advice #lithuania

Jordan Konisky <konisky@...>
 

I would appreciate some advice in tracking down the death certificate for a
great aunt who died in Israel in the 1950's. I have been informed by the
vital records office in Israel that the name of my great aunt is not
sufficient information and that I need her date of death. While her date
of death can be obtained >from a reading of her gravestone at the Holon
Cemetery in Bat Yam, I have no way to get this information. Is is possible
for me to write to the Cemetery and seek a look up of my great aunt's date
of death? Who might that be and what is the address to write to? Is there
someone who might be able to get this information for me by visiting the
grave site? I would be happy to pay for this service. I looking to
any suggestions because the death certificate of this particular relative
is key to my research on this family.

Jordan Konisky
Houston

RIMDZIUN/RYMDZIUN in Vilna, Vilijampole, Mikaliskes
VAKS, VAKS-ZYSKOND in Oshmiany, Vilna
HYMAN in Kovno
KONINISKI in Warsaw, Kolo, London

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


rietevas #lithuania

raymond epstein <rayepstein@...>
 

looking for data on family names Grol, Grolman and Sachs in Rietevas.
Please respond to raye@thepowhatan.com. Thanks

Raymond Epstein

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Remember to check the JewishGen Family Finder and the All-Lithuania Database. A search with the Daitch-Mokotoff soundex system may yield a variant spelling for your family names.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania rietevas #lithuania

raymond epstein <rayepstein@...>
 

looking for data on family names Grol, Grolman and Sachs in Rietevas.
Please respond to raye@thepowhatan.com. Thanks

Raymond Epstein

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Remember to check the JewishGen Family Finder and the All-Lithuania Database. A search with the Daitch-Mokotoff soundex system may yield a variant spelling for your family names.


Re: Zelman and Samuel #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

It is very common situation.
I have a couple of Tunkels whose name has been changed >from
ARE to HARRY, >from ZALMAN to SAMUEL etc.
Answer on the rest of your question I do not know.

Roman Tunkel
Arlington, MA
ronatuf@yahoo.com

Searching for:
TUNKEL/TOONKEL/TYHKE/\b (russ) and TERUCHKIN (appr. 1850-1880),
NEMERZEL' (appr. 1880-1920), ERENBURG (appr.1890-1930),
VOLKOV (appr. 1900-1920), RABKIN (appr. 1900-1930), FRID (appr. 1910-1940)
FAMILIES....
SEE TUNKEL's WEB SITE: http://www.geocities.com/ronatuf

---------------------------
Linda Morzillo writes:

Over a year ago I obtained >from a private genealogical service firm
a listing of a soldier killed or missing in action on September 29,
1904. The name of the soldier was Zel'man Amchislavskij.
No proof, but I have been wondering if this is grandpa.
The negative clue is that his home province was listed as Poltava
while grandpa came >from Rostov-on-Don, so I don't think so.
What do people think concerning the Zelman/Samuel name connection?
---------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Zelman and Samuel #belarus

tunkelr@...
 

It is very common situation.
I have a couple of Tunkels whose name has been changed >from
ARE to HARRY, >from ZALMAN to SAMUEL etc.
Answer on the rest of your question I do not know.

Roman Tunkel
Arlington, MA
ronatuf@yahoo.com

Searching for:
TUNKEL/TOONKEL/TYHKE/\b (russ) and TERUCHKIN (appr. 1850-1880),
NEMERZEL' (appr. 1880-1920), ERENBURG (appr.1890-1930),
VOLKOV (appr. 1900-1920), RABKIN (appr. 1900-1930), FRID (appr. 1910-1940)
FAMILIES....
SEE TUNKEL's WEB SITE: http://www.geocities.com/ronatuf

---------------------------
Linda Morzillo writes:

Over a year ago I obtained >from a private genealogical service firm
a listing of a soldier killed or missing in action on September 29,
1904. The name of the soldier was Zel'man Amchislavskij.
No proof, but I have been wondering if this is grandpa.
The negative clue is that his home province was listed as Poltava
while grandpa came >from Rostov-on-Don, so I don't think so.
What do people think concerning the Zelman/Samuel name connection?
---------------------------


Re: Mutel and Shaver #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

A friend of mine's grand parents had the first names of Mutel and Shaver.
He would like to know the English equivilents.
These names are usually transliterated Mottel and Sheva. Mottel is a
nickname for Mordechai (the male "lead" in the Book of Esther). Sheva is
presumably an abbreviation for Bat-Sheva (Bathsheba), She was David's great
passion in 2 Samuel 11, which tells how he deliberately sent her husband
Uriah the Hittite to be killed in the front line so that she would be
widowed and he could marry her. She became the mother of King Solomon, who
succeeded David on the throne due to her clever manipulations (see I Kings
1).

There are no specific English "equivalents" for these names-- only
"soundalikes." (Men called Mordechai usually have a name like Mark or Max;
and Sheba might select a soundalike such as Shelley or Sheila.)

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mutel and Shaver #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

A friend of mine's grand parents had the first names of Mutel and Shaver.
He would like to know the English equivilents.
These names are usually transliterated Mottel and Sheva. Mottel is a
nickname for Mordechai (the male "lead" in the Book of Esther). Sheva is
presumably an abbreviation for Bat-Sheva (Bathsheba), She was David's great
passion in 2 Samuel 11, which tells how he deliberately sent her husband
Uriah the Hittite to be killed in the front line so that she would be
widowed and he could marry her. She became the mother of King Solomon, who
succeeded David on the throne due to her clever manipulations (see I Kings
1).

There are no specific English "equivalents" for these names-- only
"soundalikes." (Men called Mordechai usually have a name like Mark or Max;
and Sheba might select a soundalike such as Shelley or Sheila.)

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Uzbekhistan #general

AvrmGeller <avrmgeller@...>
 

A branch of my Geller family >from the Kiev area (Illintcy aka "Linitz")
survived the war by moving east to Uzbekhistan, settling in Tashkent. One
family group emigrated >from there to the California in the early 1970's.
Another family group migrated back to Kiev and most emigrated to Dallas
in the 1990's.

Avrum Geller


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uzbekhistan #general

AvrmGeller <avrmgeller@...>
 

A branch of my Geller family >from the Kiev area (Illintcy aka "Linitz")
survived the war by moving east to Uzbekhistan, settling in Tashkent. One
family group emigrated >from there to the California in the early 1970's.
Another family group migrated back to Kiev and most emigrated to Dallas
in the 1990's.

Avrum Geller


Kudos and Kisses to JGSOregon! #general

Carol Raspler
 

To: Ron Doctor, Pres., JGS Oregon
Dear Ron:
Tonight I have made a donation to Jewish Generosity in Honor of the JGS
Oregon and in gratitude for your personal and general efforts to assist me
in connecting with the RICEN/SWETT Family of Portland. We are most
definitely related and what took me over six months of foot-dragging has
been cleared within 10 days time with your help and with the help of many
who saw my messages on JewishGen.org.

As we strengthen and glue the family jigsaw puzzle in the next weeks and
months we will keep you all apprised of our results. Again, with
gratitude,
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL (on behalf of the SWETT/RICEN Clan
- of Odessa, Russia)

I can't thank you all enough


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kudos and Kisses to JGSOregon! #general

Carol Raspler
 

To: Ron Doctor, Pres., JGS Oregon
Dear Ron:
Tonight I have made a donation to Jewish Generosity in Honor of the JGS
Oregon and in gratitude for your personal and general efforts to assist me
in connecting with the RICEN/SWETT Family of Portland. We are most
definitely related and what took me over six months of foot-dragging has
been cleared within 10 days time with your help and with the help of many
who saw my messages on JewishGen.org.

As we strengthen and glue the family jigsaw puzzle in the next weeks and
months we will keep you all apprised of our results. Again, with
gratitude,
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL (on behalf of the SWETT/RICEN Clan
- of Odessa, Russia)

I can't thank you all enough