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Searching for old topics #general

Nigel Meinrath <meinrath@...>
 

How is it possible to search this list for topics that may have been
discussed previously?

Nigel Meinrath

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Archives contain messages dating >from September 1993.


Genealogy Resource Index for Denmark, GRID #general

genealogyindex@...
 

Hi

If you are interested in Danish related genealogy maybe GRID is the
page for you. The purpose of this site is to collect and present as
many Internet resources pertaining all aspects of Danish genealogy for
an example local archives, personal home pages containing information
about families, census', parish registers an so on.

Please take a look at:

Genealogy Resource Index for Denmark, GRID
http://www.purl.dk/net/9712-0110

Sincerely
Lone Katberg
genealog@hotmail.com


wig = sheitel ? and cholent? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am translating a handwritten story about my great great grandmother
written by her grandaughter and I am having problems with a few words.

First is the Yiddish name of the wig women wear a sheitel. Right?

Now here's an odd one -- is there in effect a verb to be "sheited" to
say the woman wore a wig. Is that a word or did the author make it up?

Then she talks of a special stew the woman prepared before the Sabbath
which she calls "cholent" if I am reading the handwritting correctly?
She says it was made with beef and potatoes and beans. If it helps my
great great grandmother was >from Odessa.

Thanks for your help with these words. (I might have a few more as I go
over this a few more times.)

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com


PHILLIPS / LAZARUS - family connections? - London, 19th Century #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

I am trying to establish a connection between family LAZARUS and
my PHILLIPS family.

In 1851 Census my PHILLIPS live at 19th House [also known as No.
2] Three Ton Alley. The residents are:
Aaron PHILLIPS (67)
Rosetta PHILLIPS (64)
Henry LAZARUS (Visitor, 20)
Amelia LEVY (Grand-daughter, 11).

Also, on 15 May 1880 an Abraham PHILLIPS of 128, Downham Road,
Islington (formerly 47 Clifton Street, Finsbury) dies aged 52.
His wife's brother's were Emanuel LAZARUS and James Philip
LAZARUS.

Does anyone know these LAZARUS or PHILLIPS families?

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


Re: Arrived at Port of New York from Montreal #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Am looking for ship's records for my uncle. In his Petition for
Naturalization he says that he emigrated to the United States from
Montreal, Canada on March 13, 1900 and arrived in the US at the port of
"New York" on the 15th. (He could not remember the name of the ship.)
Where, to what port, would a ship >from Montreal in 1900 have taken him
in "New York"? Ellis Island? And how might I find his ship's records?
Thank you.

Michael Palmer e-mail mpalmer@neca.com
Mansfield/Storrs Connecticut, USA
All the information posted about the St Albans immigration list is fine
*if* he entered the US via a land crossing. However, Michael speaks of an
arrival at the Port of NY. That suggests his uncle traveled by sea from
Montreal to NYC. This was certainly possible and would have resulted in
his being processed as an arrival at the Port of New York. Ellis Island
was for a time the inspection station for the Port of New York, but the
records would be filed *not* as "Ellis Island arrival" but as "arrival at
the Port of New York." So, except as a matter of "flavoring" of the
family history, whether he actually went through Ellis Island is
irrelevant to the problem of finding the records.

You should check the microfilmed arrivals for the Port of NY for 15 March
1900, and perhaps a day on either side. These records are indexed by
surname, so you might try that first.

But bear in mind that he *might* have gotten to NYC by means other than
boat. There was substantial travel between Montreal and NYC on the NY and
Hudson Valley Railroad during this period. Travelers >from Europe would
land in Montreal (or Halifax during the winter), be processed by US
Customs *in Montreal*, and then take a train to NYC. But people who did
that usually said in later days that they entered the US at Rousse's
Point, NY, rather than at the Port of NY. Rousse's Point is a small town
on Lake Champlain at the Canadian border, and the first US town that the
train >from Montreal goes through. Travelers taking this route in 1900
have passenger list entries, just like those who landed at Ellis Island,
but the list shows arrival in Montreal and is among the records of the St.
Alban's Immigration District. Be sure to look at the index of those
records if this is a point of importance to you.

How do I know this? My grandfather traveled >from Riga in the Russian
Empire through the Kiel Canal to Grimsby, England by boat; took the Great
Northern RR across England to Liverpool; took a trans-Atlantic vessel >from
Liverpool to Montreal and then took the train to NYC. I have documented
his travel back to his Liverpool departure, so far. He traveled in
September 1899, about the same time as Michael Palmer's uncle.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@roadrunner.rr.com


Aaron PHILLIPS marries Rose ISAACS - 1802 - London, Great Synagogue #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

Aaron PHILLIPS marries Rose ISAACS - 1802 - London, Great
Synagogue.

Trying to trace ancestors & descendants of both families.

Hebrew names are:
Aharon son of Isaac KZ
Rekla daughter of Abraham

Does anyone have any connections to these persons/families?

Thank You.
Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, London


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for old topics #general

Nigel Meinrath <meinrath@...>
 

How is it possible to search this list for topics that may have been
discussed previously?

Nigel Meinrath

MODERATOR NOTE: By visiting the Discussion Group Archives at
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop

There you will find instructions for search syntax, and an
option for limiting the time frame of your search. The
Archives contain messages dating >from September 1993.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Genealogy Resource Index for Denmark, GRID #general

genealogyindex@...
 

Hi

If you are interested in Danish related genealogy maybe GRID is the
page for you. The purpose of this site is to collect and present as
many Internet resources pertaining all aspects of Danish genealogy for
an example local archives, personal home pages containing information
about families, census', parish registers an so on.

Please take a look at:

Genealogy Resource Index for Denmark, GRID
http://www.purl.dk/net/9712-0110

Sincerely
Lone Katberg
genealog@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen wig = sheitel ? and cholent? #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am translating a handwritten story about my great great grandmother
written by her grandaughter and I am having problems with a few words.

First is the Yiddish name of the wig women wear a sheitel. Right?

Now here's an odd one -- is there in effect a verb to be "sheited" to
say the woman wore a wig. Is that a word or did the author make it up?

Then she talks of a special stew the woman prepared before the Sabbath
which she calls "cholent" if I am reading the handwritting correctly?
She says it was made with beef and potatoes and beans. If it helps my
great great grandmother was >from Odessa.

Thanks for your help with these words. (I might have a few more as I go
over this a few more times.)

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PHILLIPS / LAZARUS - family connections? - London, 19th Century #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

I am trying to establish a connection between family LAZARUS and
my PHILLIPS family.

In 1851 Census my PHILLIPS live at 19th House [also known as No.
2] Three Ton Alley. The residents are:
Aaron PHILLIPS (67)
Rosetta PHILLIPS (64)
Henry LAZARUS (Visitor, 20)
Amelia LEVY (Grand-daughter, 11).

Also, on 15 May 1880 an Abraham PHILLIPS of 128, Downham Road,
Islington (formerly 47 Clifton Street, Finsbury) dies aged 52.
His wife's brother's were Emanuel LAZARUS and James Philip
LAZARUS.

Does anyone know these LAZARUS or PHILLIPS families?

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Arrived at Port of New York from Montreal #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Am looking for ship's records for my uncle. In his Petition for
Naturalization he says that he emigrated to the United States from
Montreal, Canada on March 13, 1900 and arrived in the US at the port of
"New York" on the 15th. (He could not remember the name of the ship.)
Where, to what port, would a ship >from Montreal in 1900 have taken him
in "New York"? Ellis Island? And how might I find his ship's records?
Thank you.

Michael Palmer e-mail mpalmer@neca.com
Mansfield/Storrs Connecticut, USA
All the information posted about the St Albans immigration list is fine
*if* he entered the US via a land crossing. However, Michael speaks of an
arrival at the Port of NY. That suggests his uncle traveled by sea from
Montreal to NYC. This was certainly possible and would have resulted in
his being processed as an arrival at the Port of New York. Ellis Island
was for a time the inspection station for the Port of New York, but the
records would be filed *not* as "Ellis Island arrival" but as "arrival at
the Port of New York." So, except as a matter of "flavoring" of the
family history, whether he actually went through Ellis Island is
irrelevant to the problem of finding the records.

You should check the microfilmed arrivals for the Port of NY for 15 March
1900, and perhaps a day on either side. These records are indexed by
surname, so you might try that first.

But bear in mind that he *might* have gotten to NYC by means other than
boat. There was substantial travel between Montreal and NYC on the NY and
Hudson Valley Railroad during this period. Travelers >from Europe would
land in Montreal (or Halifax during the winter), be processed by US
Customs *in Montreal*, and then take a train to NYC. But people who did
that usually said in later days that they entered the US at Rousse's
Point, NY, rather than at the Port of NY. Rousse's Point is a small town
on Lake Champlain at the Canadian border, and the first US town that the
train >from Montreal goes through. Travelers taking this route in 1900
have passenger list entries, just like those who landed at Ellis Island,
but the list shows arrival in Montreal and is among the records of the St.
Alban's Immigration District. Be sure to look at the index of those
records if this is a point of importance to you.

How do I know this? My grandfather traveled >from Riga in the Russian
Empire through the Kiel Canal to Grimsby, England by boat; took the Great
Northern RR across England to Liverpool; took a trans-Atlantic vessel >from
Liverpool to Montreal and then took the train to NYC. I have documented
his travel back to his Liverpool departure, so far. He traveled in
September 1899, about the same time as Michael Palmer's uncle.


--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON@roadrunner.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Aaron PHILLIPS marries Rose ISAACS - 1802 - London, Great Synagogue #general

Laurence Harris <laurence_harris@...>
 

Aaron PHILLIPS marries Rose ISAACS - 1802 - London, Great
Synagogue.

Trying to trace ancestors & descendants of both families.

Hebrew names are:
Aharon son of Isaac KZ
Rekla daughter of Abraham

Does anyone have any connections to these persons/families?

Thank You.
Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, London


Subject Lines #general

Al Wirtzbaum <nycityal@...>
 

No matter how descriptive, the subject line usually doesn't
present the whole message -- there's just not enough space. Not
only that, but many people use a signature block which lists names
of people they are researching. Several months ago, somebody
posted a message the subject of which was of no interest to me.
If I were one who deleted all messages the subjects of which were
of no interest, I might have missed a very important signature
block. Thanks to my perusing all messages, I noticed the maiden
name of my brother-in-law's mother among the names being
researched by this poster. He was indeed related to my
brother-in-law, and thanks to my e-mailing this person I have been
able to put the families together for the first time in over 40
years. So, my advice is that even if the subject is of no
interest it pays to find out if there is a list of names being
researched at the bottom of the message. And don't think that
because you know a certain person is always looking for the same
people you can ignore that list of people, think about how often
you come across new lines you would like help with.

Al Wirtzbaum
mailto:nycityal@erols.com


Library of Congress #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Perhaps can someone visit the Library of Congress (Washington, D.C.),
to look up something for me? Thanks! (Of course, I have all of the
details....)

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland (Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
Ukraine (Zaslav-Mikolayev-Krasilov-Medvedovka-Proskurov-Mogilev)
Istanbul, Aleppo, Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


Re: Name Clarification #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:00:37, armata+@pitt.edu (Joe Armata) opined:

a problem, because the name "Ruchla Germanovitch Karashov" means that
the second word, apparently a patronymic, has a gender problem, and
should be "Germanovna", "Daughter of Herman".
One thought: the name may have been translated >from "Ruchla z
Germanovitchov Karashov," which would have been grammatically OK (Ruchla,
nee Hermanovitch, Karashov).
That's good thinking, but I don't think I have ever seen such a name.
The usual construction is <name> z <father's given name>, which
doesn't fit your hypothesis. Nor have I ever seen a surname like
<root>ovichov. If you have seen either of these, please correct me. If
not, then any way you slice it, the name is problematic.


--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please note: To send me email, please delete the REMOVE_THIS >from my
address.


Re: Yoshi #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:03:10, wizard@pipeline.com (alan benjamin)
opined:

Can someone please tell me if Yoshi might be a dimunitive
for Yisroel? Thank you so much.
Alan Benjamin
It's much more likely to be a nickname for Yehoshua.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please note: To send me email, please delete the REMOVE_THIS >from my
address.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Subject Lines #general

Al Wirtzbaum <nycityal@...>
 

No matter how descriptive, the subject line usually doesn't
present the whole message -- there's just not enough space. Not
only that, but many people use a signature block which lists names
of people they are researching. Several months ago, somebody
posted a message the subject of which was of no interest to me.
If I were one who deleted all messages the subjects of which were
of no interest, I might have missed a very important signature
block. Thanks to my perusing all messages, I noticed the maiden
name of my brother-in-law's mother among the names being
researched by this poster. He was indeed related to my
brother-in-law, and thanks to my e-mailing this person I have been
able to put the families together for the first time in over 40
years. So, my advice is that even if the subject is of no
interest it pays to find out if there is a list of names being
researched at the bottom of the message. And don't think that
because you know a certain person is always looking for the same
people you can ignore that list of people, think about how often
you come across new lines you would like help with.

Al Wirtzbaum
mailto:nycityal@erols.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Library of Congress #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Perhaps can someone visit the Library of Congress (Washington, D.C.),
to look up something for me? Thanks! (Of course, I have all of the
details....)

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland (Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
Ukraine (Zaslav-Mikolayev-Krasilov-Medvedovka-Proskurov-Mogilev)
Istanbul, Aleppo, Rhodes
http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/ent/fam.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Name Clarification #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:00:37, armata+@pitt.edu (Joe Armata) opined:

a problem, because the name "Ruchla Germanovitch Karashov" means that
the second word, apparently a patronymic, has a gender problem, and
should be "Germanovna", "Daughter of Herman".
One thought: the name may have been translated >from "Ruchla z
Germanovitchov Karashov," which would have been grammatically OK (Ruchla,
nee Hermanovitch, Karashov).
That's good thinking, but I don't think I have ever seen such a name.
The usual construction is <name> z <father's given name>, which
doesn't fit your hypothesis. Nor have I ever seen a surname like
<root>ovichov. If you have seen either of these, please correct me. If
not, then any way you slice it, the name is problematic.


--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please note: To send me email, please delete the REMOVE_THIS >from my
address.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yoshi #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 21:03:10, wizard@pipeline.com (alan benjamin)
opined:

Can someone please tell me if Yoshi might be a dimunitive
for Yisroel? Thank you so much.
Alan Benjamin
It's much more likely to be a nickname for Yehoshua.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com

Please note: To send me email, please delete the REMOVE_THIS >from my
address.