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Re: Uzbekhistan #general

Nigel Meinrath <meinrath@...>
 

My in-laws did the same, but ended up migrating to Australia.

Nigel Meinrath

A branch of my Geller family >from the Kiev area (Illintcy aka "Linitz")
survived the war by moving east to Uzbekhistan, settling in Tashkent. One
family group emigrated >from there to the California in the early 1970's.
Another family group migrated back to Kiev and most emigrated to Dallas
in the 1990's.


Committee of Emigrants from Tuchin and Kripa #general

Vladimir Ponimansky <PONI@...>
 

Can somebody help me to find the way to contact the
Committee of Emigrants >from Tuchin and Kripe (in Israel?).
Any kind of contact information (post address, phone, e-mail, etc)
is welcome. I'm looking for information about family of my father
Ilya (Elia?) Ponimansky who was born in Tuchin suburb Horyngrod
(Kripe) near 1918.
Thanks for any help.

V.Ponimansky
poni@...

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Re: From Posen to Berlin #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

Spanish Jews also settled in the Low Countries (Belgium, Netherlands,
and the German Rhineland).

Sally is the common nickname for Salomon, the German/Dutch way of
spelling Solomon. Jews did not have surnames in 1492.


Spanish Jews went to places they thought they could
remain Spanish -Portugal and Islamic lands. Some went to Spanish
colonies where they continued to practice their religion in secret.
If they maintained a Sephardi heritage, they would most likely have
retained their surnames also, which they didn't.

PS In English, Sally is a woman's name. You probably mean Solly-short
for Solomon-a man's name. :-) I had to read the part about Sally
marrying Jenny 3 times before it made sense!

Stephen G. Esrati
Shaker Heights, OH


Abbreviation in Communidad Hebrea de Cuba #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

Checking the index of names in "Communidad Hebrea de Cuba" on Daniel
Kazez' web page for relative "Yaacov Rogozin", I found "CT" next to
his name. Browsing through the other names, one finds this abbreviation
next to other names, as well. I could not find an explanation in the key
to abbreviations. Does anyone know what "CT" stands for?
Thank you.

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone Israel


Re: Serge Koussevitzky #general

M. Ronn
 

Someone recently contacted me (after noticing my name in the Jewishgen
archives in regard to the name Koussevitzky), but the telephone and
e-mail did not print out properly (and I unfortunately deleted the e-mail
already). If you are reading this listserve, please contact me again.

Yours truly,

Michoel Ronn
(netronn@...)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uzbekhistan #general

Nigel Meinrath <meinrath@...>
 

My in-laws did the same, but ended up migrating to Australia.

Nigel Meinrath

A branch of my Geller family >from the Kiev area (Illintcy aka "Linitz")
survived the war by moving east to Uzbekhistan, settling in Tashkent. One
family group emigrated >from there to the California in the early 1970's.
Another family group migrated back to Kiev and most emigrated to Dallas
in the 1990's.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Committee of Emigrants from Tuchin and Kripa #general

Vladimir Ponimansky <PONI@...>
 

Can somebody help me to find the way to contact the
Committee of Emigrants >from Tuchin and Kripe (in Israel?).
Any kind of contact information (post address, phone, e-mail, etc)
is welcome. I'm looking for information about family of my father
Ilya (Elia?) Ponimansky who was born in Tuchin suburb Horyngrod
(Kripe) near 1918.
Thanks for any help.

V.Ponimansky
poni@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Please send only institutional contact
information to the list. Personal addresses and phone
numbers should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: From Posen to Berlin #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

Spanish Jews also settled in the Low Countries (Belgium, Netherlands,
and the German Rhineland).

Sally is the common nickname for Salomon, the German/Dutch way of
spelling Solomon. Jews did not have surnames in 1492.


Spanish Jews went to places they thought they could
remain Spanish -Portugal and Islamic lands. Some went to Spanish
colonies where they continued to practice their religion in secret.
If they maintained a Sephardi heritage, they would most likely have
retained their surnames also, which they didn't.

PS In English, Sally is a woman's name. You probably mean Solly-short
for Solomon-a man's name. :-) I had to read the part about Sally
marrying Jenny 3 times before it made sense!

Stephen G. Esrati
Shaker Heights, OH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abbreviation in Communidad Hebrea de Cuba #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

Checking the index of names in "Communidad Hebrea de Cuba" on Daniel
Kazez' web page for relative "Yaacov Rogozin", I found "CT" next to
his name. Browsing through the other names, one finds this abbreviation
next to other names, as well. I could not find an explanation in the key
to abbreviations. Does anyone know what "CT" stands for?
Thank you.

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Serge Koussevitzky #general

M. Ronn
 

Someone recently contacted me (after noticing my name in the Jewishgen
archives in regard to the name Koussevitzky), but the telephone and
e-mail did not print out properly (and I unfortunately deleted the e-mail
already). If you are reading this listserve, please contact me again.

Yours truly,

Michoel Ronn
(netronn@...)


child marriages #general

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

Yes, there were child marriages in Europe, especially in
Khasidic communities. But let us not get carried away. These
stories are noteworthy in part because the incidence was so rare,
as well as because it would be unusual or illegal today.
For instance, I have examined the marriage records of Nezhin
Ukraine, a town subject to considerable Lubovicher influence,
for 1886 and 1895. In 155 marriages, or 310 marriage partners,
there were 2 16-year-old girls, 1 17-year-old girl, 7 18-year-old girls,
and 2 18-year-old boys. No one was under 16.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA
lazer@...


Publishing a family history #general

Robert Fraser <rgfraser@...>
 

Once you have completed a family history, what do you do with it? I have
been fortunate to have inherited a very full personal history of both my
parent's families, written by them whilst I was still able to ask questions
about it (but far too few!). I was able to research, update, edit and
rewrite it. I am still updating as new information comes to light, so in a
real sense it can never be finished. I gave copies to some relatives I
thought would be interested, but what else to do with it? The genealogy is
on FTJP and JGFF.
Any suggestions welcomed.

Robert W Fraser
rgfraser@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen child marriages #general

Bert Lazerow <lazer@...>
 

Yes, there were child marriages in Europe, especially in
Khasidic communities. But let us not get carried away. These
stories are noteworthy in part because the incidence was so rare,
as well as because it would be unusual or illegal today.
For instance, I have examined the marriage records of Nezhin
Ukraine, a town subject to considerable Lubovicher influence,
for 1886 and 1895. In 155 marriages, or 310 marriage partners,
there were 2 16-year-old girls, 1 17-year-old girl, 7 18-year-old girls,
and 2 18-year-old boys. No one was under 16.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
San Diego CA
lazer@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Publishing a family history #general

Robert Fraser <rgfraser@...>
 

Once you have completed a family history, what do you do with it? I have
been fortunate to have inherited a very full personal history of both my
parent's families, written by them whilst I was still able to ask questions
about it (but far too few!). I was able to research, update, edit and
rewrite it. I am still updating as new information comes to light, so in a
real sense it can never be finished. I gave copies to some relatives I
thought would be interested, but what else to do with it? The genealogy is
on FTJP and JGFF.
Any suggestions welcomed.

Robert W Fraser
rgfraser@...


follow up on Pinkas HaKehillot #yizkorbooks

Joyce Field <jfield@...>
 

Just wanted all of you to know that the response >from Yad Vashem to
the first list of translations for which I requested permission was
phenomenal. Within 24 hours I had received permission for the 8
chapters I had listed!

Let me reiterate that the process will go faster if you will submit
the volume number and page numbers for the chapters you are
translating. There are 17 volumes now published, and I understand
that the volume on Czechoslovakia will be out shortly; Poland alone
has 7 volumes. Therefore, it is imperative that you provide me exact
details so that the chapters can be readily located.

If you are requesting permission for multiple chapters, you can send
one donor agreement. It would be helpful if you added the names of
the chapters on a separate page, just to confirm my records. If you
plan on submitting additional translations in the future, check the
box "work in progress" on the form and no other donor agreements
will be required. The agreement is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/donation/form1.html

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks follow up on Pinkas HaKehillot #yizkorbooks

Joyce Field <jfield@...>
 

Just wanted all of you to know that the response >from Yad Vashem to
the first list of translations for which I requested permission was
phenomenal. Within 24 hours I had received permission for the 8
chapters I had listed!

Let me reiterate that the process will go faster if you will submit
the volume number and page numbers for the chapters you are
translating. There are 17 volumes now published, and I understand
that the volume on Czechoslovakia will be out shortly; Poland alone
has 7 volumes. Therefore, it is imperative that you provide me exact
details so that the chapters can be readily located.

If you are requesting permission for multiple chapters, you can send
one donor agreement. It would be helpful if you added the names of
the chapters on a separate page, just to confirm my records. If you
plan on submitting additional translations in the future, check the
box "work in progress" on the form and no other donor agreements
will be required. The agreement is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/donation/form1.html

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@...


Website listing location of Galician towns and records #general

Adelle Gloger
 

Dear JewishGen Community,

The other night I was 'surfing' and found a site that listed Galician
Administrative Districts, Sub Districts and Current Country. In addition,
also found a site that searches towns/district/country and then lists what
records are available (BMD/years) and whether in Polish Archives or Ukrainian
Archives.

This is the 'main' site:
http://maxpages.com/poland/Galician_Research

Administrative Districts:
http://www.pgsa.org/galizien.htm

Towns by Administrative District:
http://www.polishroots.com/galicia_towns.htm

On this page, if you use the "Jewish Kehila" entry for
town/district all towns in that district come up.
On that same page, if you click on 'Archive Holdings', and
then click on Jewish Records you will get:
http://www.polishroots.com/galicia_records_jewish.htm
Which will give you a "Galician Records Locator". Enter town/adm.
district and a table listing BMD/year and which archive the records
are located.

I was able to find the town of my father's-in-law birth which I
couldn't even find on the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker using the D-M Soundex.
By entering the 'old' name I came up with the current name. It's an
interesting site.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio
agloger@...


Another Take on Alien Registration #general

JGLois@...
 

I have followed the threads on Alien Registration on
Jewishgen for many years. Even with informed instructions
by Chuck Printz, Rachel Vetter and Howard Rosen, I was
never successful in obtaining an Alien Registration (1940)
although I have it on good authority that, in the case of
my grandmother Bessie SERNOFF, one was filed.

While catching up on the digests recently I came across
the latest thread on this subject which reminded me that
I found quite a few Naturalizations that were begun
at that same time period for family members who had arrived
in the US 35-40 years earlier.

This raises the question, would it have been necessary for
an Alien (in 1940) to file an Alien Registration if they began the
Naturalization process instead?

Lois Sernoff [Philadelphia, PA]
<JGLois@...>

MEZHIRITZKY [MERITZ, MARRITZ, MARRITS] >from Korsun in Kiev Gub. to Phila.
SOSNOVSKY [SOSNOFSKY, SOSNOV - all spelling variations] >from Gorodishche
in Cherkassy uyezd, Kiev Gub.-> Ekaterinoslav -> Philadelphia, PA or
anywhere.
FRIEDMAN >from Beltsy/Balti ["Bels" Bessarabia] Moldova to anywhere
KUSHNER [all variations} >from Tomashpol and Yampol in Podolia Gub. to anywhere


Questions about the given names Chaim Shalom (Haim Shulem etc.). #general

hankman <hankman@...>
 

Hi,

I would like to ask several questions about the given names Chaim
Shalom (Haim Shulem etc.).

1) Does anyone know of any well known Rabbis (Rebbes etc) who had this
combination of first and middle names?

2) Statistically, is this a common combination of a pair of names, or
is it fairly rare to pair the names Chaim with Shalom? Names like
Benyamin Zev and Yehuda Leib and others are commonly paired together,
is this like those?

3) Is it possible to tie the pair of names to a particular
geographical location (in Poland or Eastern Europe of 1800-1900)
through the higher frequency of occurrence of this name in specific
locations as compared to other locations? Does anyone have such
statistics?

The reason I ask, is, I have a gfather named Chaim Shalom Frydman (a
very common surname) born circa 1879 in Tomazsow Maz. I have recently
received email >from someone with a ggfather also named Haim Shulem
Frydman, but >from Slawatycze, Biala Podlaska, Poland and born circa
1840. We have no other data that could tie these two men to the same
family. This has prompted the above questions. I am trying to
determine the likelihood that they were related and named for the same
person higher up in the family tree, or if perhaps they are both
named for some famous Rabbi of the period and therefore possibly not
related despite the same name.

Interested in your opinions or experiences with this sort of
genealogical thinking.

Regards,
Chaim Manaster
Montreal, Canada

Researching:
MANASTER/MONASTER/MONESTER >from Lesko (Lisko, Linsk) / Sanok,Galicia
SUSSWEIN/ZYSWAJN, FREY/FRY >from Lesko (Lisko, Linsk), Galicia
WASSERMAN, BRAND/BRANDT >from Lesko (Lisko, Linsk) / Sanok,Galicia
FRYDMAN/FRIDMAN/FRIEDMAN/FRIEDMANN >from Lodz / Tomaszow Maz.,Poland
GOTTSTEIN/GOTSZTEJN >from Lodz / Tomaszow Maz., Poland
GINGOLD, MEYERFELD/MAJERFELD >from Lodz / Tomaszow Maz., Poland
[edited to 6 lines allowed - Mod.]


ideas of next steps needed #general

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

Two cousins arrived in the USA, port of Philadelphia, >from Kuzmin,
Ukraine, in 1904. They were:

Joine Maschtalier 18 M Single
Tailor going to Phila, to sister Maria Millstein, 323 Monroe St
Arr >from Antwerp 4/6/1904 on "Rhynland"

Jankel Maschtalier 21 M Single
Saddler ? to cousin Mr Sawonsky, 232 Monroe St
met a landing
Arr >from Liverpool 11/14/1904 on "Merion"
in London England 6 mos.
Blitzstein Steamship ticket purchase by Joine Maschtaler
232 Monroe St, sent to Jankel age 21 162 Brick Lane Spitalfields
London Eng.

I can find no trace of Joine, Jankel or sister Maria Milstein in the USA.
I have looked at PA / Phila census, city directories, naturalizations. I
have also looked in NJ and NY. None are in the SSDI. The address given
in the arrivals seems to be that of a ticket agent.

What else can I look for? Were else can I look?

Bobby Furst
Redondo Beach, CA