Date   

zali nickname #hungary

Alex Miller <AMiller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

Does anyone know how our clever ancestors got >from SARA to ZALI?

Seems as ZALI should be the short for ROZALIA

Best Regards,

Alex Miller
Reading, PA


Re: Town names #belarus

AttilaRona@...
 

Ujbeszterce was in Trencsen County, and it is now Nova Bystrica.
I could not find Uj-Bela.
I could not find Bialydunajecz either, but it does not sound Hungarian.

Attila Rona


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Town names #hungary

AttilaRona@...
 

Ujbeszterce was in Trencsen County, and it is now Nova Bystrica.
I could not find Uj-Bela.
I could not find Bialydunajecz either, but it does not sound Hungarian.

Attila Rona


Hungary SIG #Hungary zali nickname #hungary

Alex Miller <AMiller@...>
 

Hello Friends,

Does anyone know how our clever ancestors got >from SARA to ZALI?

Seems as ZALI should be the short for ROZALIA

Best Regards,

Alex Miller
Reading, PA


From Naomi Ragen, Jerusalem Journalist: #hungary

acme100 <acme100@...>
 

I received the following >from Tom Gross, a journalist based in
Jerusalem.

Tom writes the following:

"This is a lengthy article written by Conrad Black, owner of several
major
newspapers around the world, defending Israel. It is published today in
the London Spectator, a publication owned by Mr. Black.

The second half of the article in particular, is a remarkable defense of

Israel by Mr. Black, a practicing Roman Catholic. Among other things, he

attacks "the BBC, Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the
Foreign
and Commonwealth Office [as being] rabidly anti-Israel". It is rare for
a
proprietor of one newspaper to comment on other media in this way.

He will no doubt be attacked by many for this article. He has long been
criticized by many in the British establishment for his pro-Israel
views.
Letters of congratulations or otherwise can be sent via the Spectator
web
site.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/

COVER STORY

My friend Taki has gone too far

Last week's anti-Israel diatribe by The Spectator's High Life
columnist is almost worthy of Goebbels, says Conrad Black

The Spectator's social writer, Taki Theodoracopulos, has often
graciously
referred to me as an indulgent proprietor. Our relations have been
cordial
for 15 years and we have frequently been each other's guests, have been

friendly with each other's spouses and have many mutual friends. Long
before I knew him I was aware of his penchant, sometimes entertaining
but
sometimes excessive, to denigrate certain ethnic groups, most often the

Jews. With such a bonhomous character there is a natural tendency to
overlook his lapses of judgment and give him the benefit of the doubt
that
he is only railing against the prissy hypersensitivities of political
correctness. It is hard to imagine that a person with whom you are
friendly
and have had many memorably agreeable times is a racist who wishes and
incites violence against innocent people because of their ethnicity or
religion.

I defended Taki when he was attacked by the Mayor of New York for a
very insulting column about Puerto Ricans in 1997. His remarks were
outrageous but, as the Puerto Ricans did make a mess on Fifth Avenue,
they contained a kernel of truth and did not incite violence against
Puerto
Ricans. Nor are Puerto Ricans under any particular external threat. Nor
do
they have a history of being savagely oppressed. In the same spirit I
defended one of our other writers, William Cash, against the wrath of
the
entire US film industry in 1994, when he published an article about the

leading Jewish figures in that industry which was somewhat insulting
but
well short of an incitement to racial hatred.

These were not among my most enjoyable moments as a publisher, but it
is
the duty of a publisher to defend his writers unless they are, for
whatever
reason, indefensible. Writers, like everyone else, have the right to
dislike
individuals and whole nationalities and ethnic groups. They have the
right to
express their dislike if they do so rationally, are not legally
defamatory, and
if they are within the bounds of civilised taste. Our publications will

never
be hounded into politically correct avoidance of any forceful opinion
touching ethnicity, sectarianism, gender or sexual orientation. To do
so
would be to accept a muzzle on freedom of expression and to prevent
comment on large and interesting aspects of life. My associates and I
would shut down our publications rather than submit to such
restrictions.

Unfortunately, last week in this magazine, Taki's reflections were
indefensible. He expressed a hatred for Israel and a contempt for the
United
States and its political institutions that were irrational and an
offence
to
civilised taste. In the process, I am afraid he uttered a blood libel
on
the
Jewish people wherever they may be.

He wrote that the United States had intended to invade French air space
to
force down fugitive financier Marc Rich's aeroplane (on orders
ultimately
>from the same commander-in-chief who has now pardoned Rich); that
Israeli intelligence knew more of US Air Force activities than the
Pentagon
did and shared this information with Rich because Israel's favour had
been
bought by Rich. For Taki, the United States was not yet
'Israel-occupied
territory'; that is, occupied by 'those nice guys who attack
rock-throwing
youth with armour-piercing missiles'. He acknowledged his anti-Semitism

but implicitly defined it as 'daring to protest about soldiers shooting
at
kids', and he asserted that 'the way to Uncle Sam's heart runs through
Tel
Aviv and Israeli-occupied territory'.

In both its venomous character and its unfathomable absurdity, this
farrago
of lies is almost worthy of Goebbels or the authors of the Protocols of

the
Elders of Zion. The Jews, according to Taki, have suborned the US
government, direct that country's military like a docile attack dog,
and
glory in the murder of innocent or mischievous children. He presents
the
universal Jewish ethos as brutish, vulgar, grasping and cunningly
wicked.

It is a fearful thing to contemplate that someone with whom I have had
such long and cordial relations should use a publication of ours for
such
malignant purposes, however veiled in his familiar recourse to harmless

excess, or even amplified by his frequent and publicly confessed intake
of
intoxicating substances.

I wouldn't suspect Taki of co-ordinating his views with anyone else's.
But
his opinions are not greatly more extreme than those of large sections
of
the
British media which habitually apply a double standard when judging the

Israelis and Palestinians. Behind the spurious defence of merely
seeking
justice for the Palestinians, most of the relevant sections of the BBC,

Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the Foreign and
Commonwealth Office are rabidly anti-Israel. I doubt that most of the
people involved would be hostile to someone merely because that person
was Jewish, though some would, but they are almost all, wittingly or
not,
stoking the inferno of anti-Semitism.

The origins of the Arab-Israeli problem are too complicated for easy
summary, but among the points normally overlooked by most of the
British
media is that the government of the United Kingdom bears a unique
responsibility for the problem. It sold the same real estate twice. In
the
direst moments of the first world war Britain promised the same
territory
to
the Jews and to the Arabs.

Israel, after an unconscionable length of time, and with the exact
borders
still in dispute, has accepted the principle of two states in the
territory it
once hoped to occupy itself. The Palestinians have not accepted the
right
of
the state of Israel to survive. They do not accept the Israelis as an
indigenous people and still think of them as foreign colonial occupiers

like
the British, the Turks and the Romans. This and the implosion of
Arafat's
authority among his own people, and not the actions of the Israelis,
are
the
sources of the present impasse, and every knowledgable observer of the
Middle East knows it.

The West Bank is now governed by groups of thugs, and Arafat has been
afraid to go there for several months. The Palestinian Authority is a
brutal
dictatorship and one of the most financially corrupt regimes in the
world.
The PLO has not lived up to any of its significant obligations under
the
Oslo
Accords, including expunging the anti-Israel clauses of the Palestine
National Charter. Barak went as far as any Israeli leader could
possibly
go
at Camp David and was rewarded with rejection by Arafat and the
unleashing of a new insurrection. Large numbers of Palestinians have
been
persuaded that glorious eternity awaits them if they manage to die at
the
hands of the Israelis. Fortified by this belief, mobs of stone-throwers

have
been pushed forward with snipers interspersed among them and children
in
the vanguard to take the brunt of the Israeli response. Sharon gave the

Muslim leaders plenty of notice of his now famous ten-minute walk on
the
Temple Mount, and did nothing on it that was disrespectful of Islam or
of
the Palestinian people. Arafat has declared that he requires an almost
unlimited right of return of designated Palestinians, including
millions
born
after the initial departure in 1948, and the demographic inundation of
Israel
with Arabs. It is as if the UK were asked to receive 60 million people
of
a
foreign nationality with which we had been at war for more than 50
years.
Apart >from Adolf Eichmann, Israel has never executed anyone, including
terrorists - a refreshing contrast to the peremptory executions
routinely
conducted by the Palestinians and some other neighbouring regimes.

We hear almost nothing of any of this >from most of the British media or

the
Foreign Office. We hear only shrill orchestrated solicitude for the
supposed
underdog and relentless antagonism against Israel - ostensibly the
Israeli
government but, inevitably and implicitly, the Jews.

These Jews are the same people whom Pope John Paul II has recognised
as 'not the cousins but the brothers and sisters of all Christians, the

chosen
people of the Old Testament', to whom the world should repent, as he
did,
for millennia of oppression. The Pope's own record in these matters is
exemplary, but he repented for his one billion co-religionists and for
the
2,000-year history of the world's foremost Church.

Israel has many failings, and of course the treatment of the
Palestinians
by
the Israelis, by the Arab powers who keep them in the camps (breeding
grounds for their terrorist cannon fodder), and by the United Nations
is a
crime in which we are all complicit. Of course the world must put this
right.

But we will not put it right by returning to the ancient and evil
practice of
persecuting the Jewish people, to whom we owe so much for its genius in

almost every field and its courage in heroic circumstances for nearly
6,000
years. The Jews, as much as any other people, have shown the world what

human bravery and perseverance can achieve. It was pathetic and shaming

that many of the distinguished leaders of London's Jewish community
felt
the need to tell me last week, after local performances of the Israeli
Philharmonic Orchestra, that they hoped that 'people will realise that
Israel
doesn't just quell Palestinian riots'.

All Israel really wants is to be like other countries, to be accepted
in
the
world as a people with dignity and a right to a state. Israel has that
right. It
is a sophisticated democracy and a society of laws. Those neurotic
racists
who dispute that right should be forced to come out >from behind the
skirts
of legitimate differences of opinion in Middle Eastern controversies.
They
should be made to face those who would be their victims.

And those who have assisted them, through lassitude or negligence or
malice, should follow the Pope's inspiring example: they should repent.

The
Pharisees and hypocrites in the British press should repent their
calumnies.
A few days after Arafat cavalierly rejected generous concessions from
Israel and unleashed his latest bloodbath, the Foreign Secretary was
photographed walking hand-in-hand with Arafat and caused Britain to
condemn Israel at the United Nations. He should repent and exorcise the

institutional bias of his department.

In our publications justice will be done.


______________________________________________________________________
To unsubscribe, write to NaomiRagen-unsubscribe@...


Hungary SIG #Hungary From Naomi Ragen, Jerusalem Journalist: #hungary

acme100 <acme100@...>
 

I received the following >from Tom Gross, a journalist based in
Jerusalem.

Tom writes the following:

"This is a lengthy article written by Conrad Black, owner of several
major
newspapers around the world, defending Israel. It is published today in
the London Spectator, a publication owned by Mr. Black.

The second half of the article in particular, is a remarkable defense of

Israel by Mr. Black, a practicing Roman Catholic. Among other things, he

attacks "the BBC, Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the
Foreign
and Commonwealth Office [as being] rabidly anti-Israel". It is rare for
a
proprietor of one newspaper to comment on other media in this way.

He will no doubt be attacked by many for this article. He has long been
criticized by many in the British establishment for his pro-Israel
views.
Letters of congratulations or otherwise can be sent via the Spectator
web
site.


http://www.spectator.co.uk/

COVER STORY

My friend Taki has gone too far

Last week's anti-Israel diatribe by The Spectator's High Life
columnist is almost worthy of Goebbels, says Conrad Black

The Spectator's social writer, Taki Theodoracopulos, has often
graciously
referred to me as an indulgent proprietor. Our relations have been
cordial
for 15 years and we have frequently been each other's guests, have been

friendly with each other's spouses and have many mutual friends. Long
before I knew him I was aware of his penchant, sometimes entertaining
but
sometimes excessive, to denigrate certain ethnic groups, most often the

Jews. With such a bonhomous character there is a natural tendency to
overlook his lapses of judgment and give him the benefit of the doubt
that
he is only railing against the prissy hypersensitivities of political
correctness. It is hard to imagine that a person with whom you are
friendly
and have had many memorably agreeable times is a racist who wishes and
incites violence against innocent people because of their ethnicity or
religion.

I defended Taki when he was attacked by the Mayor of New York for a
very insulting column about Puerto Ricans in 1997. His remarks were
outrageous but, as the Puerto Ricans did make a mess on Fifth Avenue,
they contained a kernel of truth and did not incite violence against
Puerto
Ricans. Nor are Puerto Ricans under any particular external threat. Nor
do
they have a history of being savagely oppressed. In the same spirit I
defended one of our other writers, William Cash, against the wrath of
the
entire US film industry in 1994, when he published an article about the

leading Jewish figures in that industry which was somewhat insulting
but
well short of an incitement to racial hatred.

These were not among my most enjoyable moments as a publisher, but it
is
the duty of a publisher to defend his writers unless they are, for
whatever
reason, indefensible. Writers, like everyone else, have the right to
dislike
individuals and whole nationalities and ethnic groups. They have the
right to
express their dislike if they do so rationally, are not legally
defamatory, and
if they are within the bounds of civilised taste. Our publications will

never
be hounded into politically correct avoidance of any forceful opinion
touching ethnicity, sectarianism, gender or sexual orientation. To do
so
would be to accept a muzzle on freedom of expression and to prevent
comment on large and interesting aspects of life. My associates and I
would shut down our publications rather than submit to such
restrictions.

Unfortunately, last week in this magazine, Taki's reflections were
indefensible. He expressed a hatred for Israel and a contempt for the
United
States and its political institutions that were irrational and an
offence
to
civilised taste. In the process, I am afraid he uttered a blood libel
on
the
Jewish people wherever they may be.

He wrote that the United States had intended to invade French air space
to
force down fugitive financier Marc Rich's aeroplane (on orders
ultimately
>from the same commander-in-chief who has now pardoned Rich); that
Israeli intelligence knew more of US Air Force activities than the
Pentagon
did and shared this information with Rich because Israel's favour had
been
bought by Rich. For Taki, the United States was not yet
'Israel-occupied
territory'; that is, occupied by 'those nice guys who attack
rock-throwing
youth with armour-piercing missiles'. He acknowledged his anti-Semitism

but implicitly defined it as 'daring to protest about soldiers shooting
at
kids', and he asserted that 'the way to Uncle Sam's heart runs through
Tel
Aviv and Israeli-occupied territory'.

In both its venomous character and its unfathomable absurdity, this
farrago
of lies is almost worthy of Goebbels or the authors of the Protocols of

the
Elders of Zion. The Jews, according to Taki, have suborned the US
government, direct that country's military like a docile attack dog,
and
glory in the murder of innocent or mischievous children. He presents
the
universal Jewish ethos as brutish, vulgar, grasping and cunningly
wicked.

It is a fearful thing to contemplate that someone with whom I have had
such long and cordial relations should use a publication of ours for
such
malignant purposes, however veiled in his familiar recourse to harmless

excess, or even amplified by his frequent and publicly confessed intake
of
intoxicating substances.

I wouldn't suspect Taki of co-ordinating his views with anyone else's.
But
his opinions are not greatly more extreme than those of large sections
of
the
British media which habitually apply a double standard when judging the

Israelis and Palestinians. Behind the spurious defence of merely
seeking
justice for the Palestinians, most of the relevant sections of the BBC,

Independent, Guardian, Evening Standard and the Foreign and
Commonwealth Office are rabidly anti-Israel. I doubt that most of the
people involved would be hostile to someone merely because that person
was Jewish, though some would, but they are almost all, wittingly or
not,
stoking the inferno of anti-Semitism.

The origins of the Arab-Israeli problem are too complicated for easy
summary, but among the points normally overlooked by most of the
British
media is that the government of the United Kingdom bears a unique
responsibility for the problem. It sold the same real estate twice. In
the
direst moments of the first world war Britain promised the same
territory
to
the Jews and to the Arabs.

Israel, after an unconscionable length of time, and with the exact
borders
still in dispute, has accepted the principle of two states in the
territory it
once hoped to occupy itself. The Palestinians have not accepted the
right
of
the state of Israel to survive. They do not accept the Israelis as an
indigenous people and still think of them as foreign colonial occupiers

like
the British, the Turks and the Romans. This and the implosion of
Arafat's
authority among his own people, and not the actions of the Israelis,
are
the
sources of the present impasse, and every knowledgable observer of the
Middle East knows it.

The West Bank is now governed by groups of thugs, and Arafat has been
afraid to go there for several months. The Palestinian Authority is a
brutal
dictatorship and one of the most financially corrupt regimes in the
world.
The PLO has not lived up to any of its significant obligations under
the
Oslo
Accords, including expunging the anti-Israel clauses of the Palestine
National Charter. Barak went as far as any Israeli leader could
possibly
go
at Camp David and was rewarded with rejection by Arafat and the
unleashing of a new insurrection. Large numbers of Palestinians have
been
persuaded that glorious eternity awaits them if they manage to die at
the
hands of the Israelis. Fortified by this belief, mobs of stone-throwers

have
been pushed forward with snipers interspersed among them and children
in
the vanguard to take the brunt of the Israeli response. Sharon gave the

Muslim leaders plenty of notice of his now famous ten-minute walk on
the
Temple Mount, and did nothing on it that was disrespectful of Islam or
of
the Palestinian people. Arafat has declared that he requires an almost
unlimited right of return of designated Palestinians, including
millions
born
after the initial departure in 1948, and the demographic inundation of
Israel
with Arabs. It is as if the UK were asked to receive 60 million people
of
a
foreign nationality with which we had been at war for more than 50
years.
Apart >from Adolf Eichmann, Israel has never executed anyone, including
terrorists - a refreshing contrast to the peremptory executions
routinely
conducted by the Palestinians and some other neighbouring regimes.

We hear almost nothing of any of this >from most of the British media or

the
Foreign Office. We hear only shrill orchestrated solicitude for the
supposed
underdog and relentless antagonism against Israel - ostensibly the
Israeli
government but, inevitably and implicitly, the Jews.

These Jews are the same people whom Pope John Paul II has recognised
as 'not the cousins but the brothers and sisters of all Christians, the

chosen
people of the Old Testament', to whom the world should repent, as he
did,
for millennia of oppression. The Pope's own record in these matters is
exemplary, but he repented for his one billion co-religionists and for
the
2,000-year history of the world's foremost Church.

Israel has many failings, and of course the treatment of the
Palestinians
by
the Israelis, by the Arab powers who keep them in the camps (breeding
grounds for their terrorist cannon fodder), and by the United Nations
is a
crime in which we are all complicit. Of course the world must put this
right.

But we will not put it right by returning to the ancient and evil
practice of
persecuting the Jewish people, to whom we owe so much for its genius in

almost every field and its courage in heroic circumstances for nearly
6,000
years. The Jews, as much as any other people, have shown the world what

human bravery and perseverance can achieve. It was pathetic and shaming

that many of the distinguished leaders of London's Jewish community
felt
the need to tell me last week, after local performances of the Israeli
Philharmonic Orchestra, that they hoped that 'people will realise that
Israel
doesn't just quell Palestinian riots'.

All Israel really wants is to be like other countries, to be accepted
in
the
world as a people with dignity and a right to a state. Israel has that
right. It
is a sophisticated democracy and a society of laws. Those neurotic
racists
who dispute that right should be forced to come out >from behind the
skirts
of legitimate differences of opinion in Middle Eastern controversies.
They
should be made to face those who would be their victims.

And those who have assisted them, through lassitude or negligence or
malice, should follow the Pope's inspiring example: they should repent.

The
Pharisees and hypocrites in the British press should repent their
calumnies.
A few days after Arafat cavalierly rejected generous concessions from
Israel and unleashed his latest bloodbath, the Foreign Secretary was
photographed walking hand-in-hand with Arafat and caused Britain to
condemn Israel at the United Nations. He should repent and exorcise the

institutional bias of his department.

In our publications justice will be done.


______________________________________________________________________
To unsubscribe, write to NaomiRagen-unsubscribe@...


need help translating documents #hungary

cohentalk@...
 

Dear Members,

I recently received copies of papers >from a relative. I really need
help to understand what the papers say. If it's too time
consuming to translate all of it, I understand; but please let me
know what the documents are.

The first is a document filled out with my grandparents' names and
their parents' names.

The Title:
Vytah z matriky snatkove

and its columns:
1. Bezne cislo
2. Misto den,mesic a rok anatku
Zenicha
3. jmeno prijmeni,zamesinani,nabozenstvi,vek a misto, pobytu
4. jmeno a prijmeni rodicu
Nevesty
5. same as 3
6. same as 4
7. jmeno,prijemeni a bydliste _ _edka
8. Prohlaseni snatkove pripadne poznamky pred podpisem. Podpisy.

There's a little more but I'm assuming it's not important to the gist of
the document.

from the second one (it's very dark and hard to read):
Folyo szam 79, 1901 Title: KIVONAT
A kotet betuje IV
A l_ _ szatna __ szule esi anyakonyvebol

Folyo szam: 13.
Neme ferti vagy _ _:ferfi
Allapotta torvenyas vagy torvenytelen:sorvenyes
Finknal: korujmettelo neve :Veisz Hersch
A koma--neve foialkozasa _ _ _ _?: Veisz Salamon Rer_ _ _ _?

Munkacs
Leanyoknal: Has squiggle marks filled in.

Thank you very much for your time and help.
Regards,
Linda Cohen
MichiganUSA


Hungary SIG #Hungary need help translating documents #hungary

cohentalk@...
 

Dear Members,

I recently received copies of papers >from a relative. I really need
help to understand what the papers say. If it's too time
consuming to translate all of it, I understand; but please let me
know what the documents are.

The first is a document filled out with my grandparents' names and
their parents' names.

The Title:
Vytah z matriky snatkove

and its columns:
1. Bezne cislo
2. Misto den,mesic a rok anatku
Zenicha
3. jmeno prijmeni,zamesinani,nabozenstvi,vek a misto, pobytu
4. jmeno a prijmeni rodicu
Nevesty
5. same as 3
6. same as 4
7. jmeno,prijemeni a bydliste _ _edka
8. Prohlaseni snatkove pripadne poznamky pred podpisem. Podpisy.

There's a little more but I'm assuming it's not important to the gist of
the document.

from the second one (it's very dark and hard to read):
Folyo szam 79, 1901 Title: KIVONAT
A kotet betuje IV
A l_ _ szatna __ szule esi anyakonyvebol

Folyo szam: 13.
Neme ferti vagy _ _:ferfi
Allapotta torvenyas vagy torvenytelen:sorvenyes
Finknal: korujmettelo neve :Veisz Hersch
A koma--neve foialkozasa _ _ _ _?: Veisz Salamon Rer_ _ _ _?

Munkacs
Leanyoknal: Has squiggle marks filled in.

Thank you very much for your time and help.
Regards,
Linda Cohen
MichiganUSA


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Ginsberg #southafrica

Roland Tompowsky <macki@...>
 

I am looking for a family Ginsberg living in South Africa about =
1870-1940. a father Jacob Leopold Ginsberg and a mother Bertha Ginsberg, =
maiden name Tumpowsky. Their children Sybil, Lillian Annie, Ernest =
Joseph, Henry and Florence Hannah - the last child was born on the 1st =
of February 1910. Any information would be of great value to me. Please =
answer me directly on email below.
Warmest regards to all of you.
Roland Tompowsky
Pr=E4stakullegatan 21
432 37 Varberg
Sweden
Telno 0046-34092754
macki@...


Ginsberg #southafrica

Roland Tompowsky <macki@...>
 

I am looking for a family Ginsberg living in South Africa about =
1870-1940. a father Jacob Leopold Ginsberg and a mother Bertha Ginsberg, =
maiden name Tumpowsky. Their children Sybil, Lillian Annie, Ernest =
Joseph, Henry and Florence Hannah - the last child was born on the 1st =
of February 1910. Any information would be of great value to me. Please =
answer me directly on email below.
Warmest regards to all of you.
Roland Tompowsky
Pr=E4stakullegatan 21
432 37 Varberg
Sweden
Telno 0046-34092754
macki@...


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: South African National Archives #southafrica

Lionel <tovli@...>
 

Dear Paul,
Many thanks for the site information. Can you perhaps recommend any
researchers in South Africa?
Regards
Lionel Michels


***Moderator's note: Please reply directly to tovli@... --
Jewishgen does not allow "advertising" of individual researchers.***

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Cheifitz" <pcheiftz@...>

The search engine of the National Archives has just been launched on the
internet. It's an amazing resource for all SA researchers and I'm sure
that
you will all find some interesting family material here.

Follow these steps:
1. click on: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/
2. then click on: search
3. I usually use: RSA
4. type in the surname you are seeking and "Viola".

It is important to remember that the archives are unable to look at or
research these documents on your behalf. You still need to hire a
researcher
to check the material for you.


Re: South African National Archives #southafrica

Lionel <tovli@...>
 

Dear Paul,
Many thanks for the site information. Can you perhaps recommend any
researchers in South Africa?
Regards
Lionel Michels


***Moderator's note: Please reply directly to tovli@... --
Jewishgen does not allow "advertising" of individual researchers.***

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Cheifitz" <pcheiftz@...>

The search engine of the National Archives has just been launched on the
internet. It's an amazing resource for all SA researchers and I'm sure
that
you will all find some interesting family material here.

Follow these steps:
1. click on: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/
2. then click on: search
3. I usually use: RSA
4. type in the surname you are seeking and "Viola".

It is important to remember that the archives are unable to look at or
research these documents on your behalf. You still need to hire a
researcher
to check the material for you.


Re: Witnesses on 19th century records #poland

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

Does anyone know the criteria for being a witness on Polish vital
records? Literacy? Standing in the community? Who you knew? Did
witnesses get paid? I keep finding people in my families who were
witnesses for some periods of time, sometimes only a few records,
sometimes a couple years, other times, decades, which is why I am
interested in this topic.


Debbi Korman
Los Angeles


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Witnesses on 19th century records #poland

korman3 <korman3@...>
 

Does anyone know the criteria for being a witness on Polish vital
records? Literacy? Standing in the community? Who you knew? Did
witnesses get paid? I keep finding people in my families who were
witnesses for some periods of time, sometimes only a few records,
sometimes a couple years, other times, decades, which is why I am
interested in this topic.


Debbi Korman
Los Angeles


What is new at the Belarus SIG #belarus

erosenbaum@...
 

In the last few months, the following information has been added to the
Belarus SIG website

-The State archive of the Gomel area (translated) was added to the Archive
section of the Belarus Resources.
- Museum of Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center) was added to the Holocaust
section of the Belarus Resources.
-Links to information >from the Simon Wiesenthal Center were added to the
"Shtetls of Belarus" page for Baranovichi, Bereza, Bobruisk, Borisov, and
over 40 other shtetls.
-Minsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Mogilev, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Grodno, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-1906 Lida voter list; appendix to #90 Vilna Gubernia Vedemosti, by Irene
Newhouse
-Brest-Litovsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Pinsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Jewish Tavern Keepers Registering in Lyakhovichi (1805), contributed by
the Lachowicze research group, Foreword by Neville Lamdan
-Lyakhovichi 1880 draft list, by Gary Palgon
-Lyakhovichi 1889 draft list, by Gary Palgon
-Lists of donors to the United Grodner Relief of New York. March 1940,
September 1944, March 1948, and 1949, by Edward Rosenbaum
-Bragin region Nazi victims, by A.L. Bell
-Vitebsk Cemetery, by Eliyahu Tavger

Happy hunting...

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...


Belarus SIG #Belarus What is new at the Belarus SIG #belarus

erosenbaum@...
 

In the last few months, the following information has been added to the
Belarus SIG website

-The State archive of the Gomel area (translated) was added to the Archive
section of the Belarus Resources.
- Museum of Tolerance (Simon Wiesenthal Center) was added to the Holocaust
section of the Belarus Resources.
-Links to information >from the Simon Wiesenthal Center were added to the
"Shtetls of Belarus" page for Baranovichi, Bereza, Bobruisk, Borisov, and
over 40 other shtetls.
-Minsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Mogilev, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Grodno, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-1906 Lida voter list; appendix to #90 Vilna Gubernia Vedemosti, by Irene
Newhouse
-Brest-Litovsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Pinsk, an article >from The Jewish Encyclopedia
-Jewish Tavern Keepers Registering in Lyakhovichi (1805), contributed by
the Lachowicze research group, Foreword by Neville Lamdan
-Lyakhovichi 1880 draft list, by Gary Palgon
-Lyakhovichi 1889 draft list, by Gary Palgon
-Lists of donors to the United Grodner Relief of New York. March 1940,
September 1944, March 1948, and 1949, by Edward Rosenbaum
-Bragin region Nazi victims, by A.L. Bell
-Vitebsk Cemetery, by Eliyahu Tavger

Happy hunting...

Edward Rosenbaum
Bergenfield, NJ
Webmaster, Belarus SIG (http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus)
President, JGS of Bergen County, New Jersey
(http://www.crosswinds.nett/~erosenbaum/jgsbc)
email: erosenbaum@...


Jewish life in Gorki (Belarus) #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear colleagues!

Dr. Vladimir Livshits >from Gorki Mogilev region (Belarus) noted that now is
in preparation a book about the destiny of Jews in Gorki, the fomer shtetle
and Jewish town in Belarus. Vladimir Livshits is a head of the Gorki Jewish
Society and at the same time is a director of the Town's History Museum. If
anybody have any information about Jewish life in Gorky. Please share with
Dr. Vladimir Livshits. His mail address is:

Belarus
Mogilev region,
Gorki, 213410
Sovetskaya Str., 4/41
Dr. Vladimir Livshits

Sincerely yours,
Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky
Diaspora Research Institute of Tel Aviv University.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Jewish life in Gorki (Belarus) #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear colleagues!

Dr. Vladimir Livshits >from Gorki Mogilev region (Belarus) noted that now is
in preparation a book about the destiny of Jews in Gorki, the fomer shtetle
and Jewish town in Belarus. Vladimir Livshits is a head of the Gorki Jewish
Society and at the same time is a director of the Town's History Museum. If
anybody have any information about Jewish life in Gorky. Please share with
Dr. Vladimir Livshits. His mail address is:

Belarus
Mogilev region,
Gorki, 213410
Sovetskaya Str., 4/41
Dr. Vladimir Livshits

Sincerely yours,
Dr. Leonid Smilovitsky
Diaspora Research Institute of Tel Aviv University.


Dukla, Galicia #general

glosonc@...
 

Dear Genners:
My maternal great-grandparents were Roza (Blime) Hirsch >from Dukla,
Poland and her husband Pinkusz Landsberger >from Krakow. Any information
would be appreciated.
Best Regards,
George Losonci
GLOSONC@...
Searching: HIRSCH >from Dukla,Galicia,Poland
LANDSBERGER >from Krakow, Poland
LEFKOVITS >from Olaszliszka and Hajdusamson, Hungary
GOLDBERGER >from Olaszliszka, Hungary
KUHN, KUN >from Hajdunanas, Hungary
ROT, ROHT >from Viss, Hungary; MULLER >from Viss, Hungary


Tulchin #general

zerakodesh@...
 

Hello
I would like very much to hear >from people >from the town of Tulchin
in Vinnitza province. I have written to most people on the Jewish Family
Finder.
Thank you for any help you can offer.
Sholom
Esther Feinstein Sackheim
ZeraKodesh@...