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Help with accessing NJ Vital Records #general

Karen Pratt <kvpratt@...>
 

Hello JGenners,
I have tried to deal with NJ before and have had many
stumbling blocks.

Recently,I 'found' the NJ Vital Records Site on-line and I
e-mailed for a Death Cert. for:
Dinah GRUDIN, died on 10/19/1992 in Mercer County, NJ.

I received (ASAP),and paid for, a typed record that did
have:
SS#151365957,
Birth 08/08/1896,
Died in Trenton City, Mercer County
Resided in East Windsor Twp., Mercer County, and
State file #19920053403 (is this a "usable" piece of data?)

But --- without 'Informant', which 'Cemetery', 'Place of
Birth', 'Date of Immigration' etc.

1- Is it possible to get a ~photocopy~ of a death cert.
from NJ records? If so, how?
2- Is it possible for you to 'find' the Cemetery where
Dinah is buried?
3- I have a few other vital records, >from NJ, that I would
like to have (ex: D. Cert. for Blanche ABRAMS, died
11/16/1965 in Cranford, NJ)

As to the above questions, if someone has the time to find
out, I would reimurse for the effort.

Regards,
Karen Pratt, Miami, FL; Board Member-at-Large PBC JGS


Jews of Schwelm 1738 #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

I have a photocopy of the first page of a history of the Jews of Schwelm
by Kurt Wollmerstaedt. That page lists the five Jewish families (23
persons) among the city's 1,300 inhabitants in 1738.
Since this was before the adoption of family names, I list what I can:
--Anschel Hertz, butcher, son of the butcher Joas Hertz
--His mother Frommel, a widow, home maker
--Gottlieb Jude (literally Gottlieb the Jew) (also called Gottlieb
Hertz, butcher, brother of Anschel Hertz
--Meyer Simon, butcher, son of the butcher Simon Jakob
--Abraham Jude (literally Abraham the Jew) (also called Abraham Simon),
butcher, brother of Meyer Simon

There are people with the given name Anschel in my MELCHIOR family tree.

There are also people with the surname HERZ (no "t") in my MELCHIOR and
GOTTSCHALK family trees. Some of those HERZ folk changed their name to
HERZSOHN during the compulsory adoption of family names in the
Napoleonic and post-Napoleonic eras because "Herz" was regarded as a
given name and given names were not allowed as surnames.

--
Stephen G. Esrati
Shaker Heights, OH


Major Update to the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Avotaynu has just made a major update to its Consolidated Jewish
Surname Index located at http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.html.
We have added the surnames contained in the following databases:
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
All-Lithuania Database
All-Belarus Database
All-Latvia Database
JewishGen Family Finder

CJSI is a database of databases. It is an index to 31 different
sources of information about (mostly) Jewish surnames. Rather than
searching the indexes for each source separately to see if there is
information relevant to your research, CJSI indicates which
databases contain surnames of interest to you. Links are provided
to other Web sites that either have the databases or information
about how to access the data. Most of the sources that are not
online are published in books or on microfiche. In combination, all
31 sources represent more than 2 million records for approximately
370,000 unique surnames.

CJSI has some special features to enhance it usefulness. The index
is presented in Daitch-Mokotoff soundex order rather than
alphabetically. This means that many spelling variants of a surname
appear on consecutive lines. CJSI is browseable like a telephone
book. It does not merely provide you with a list of surnames that
match the soundex code. Keying in a given surname places you at a
certain point in the database. You can then search up and down the
database beyond the limits of the soundex code. This allows you
also to review surnames that are small variations of the one being
searched. Finally, an advanced search feature allows you to mix
exact matching and soundexing of the letters of the surname
lowering the incidence of false positives (the procedure is
described at the Internet site).

Because these newly added sources are ever growing, Avotaynu plans
to update CJSI at least semi-annually to include the additions that
have been made to these databases.

Gary Mokotoff


Icek and Ayzyk #general

sallybru@...
 

While I am not a Polish expert, Icek would be pronounced Itzek and Ayzyk
would not have the tz sound. The 2 names are both derived >from the Hebrew
Isaac, of course, but I have seen references where they were considered
different Yiddish names where the Hebrew names differed.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Re: Naming Traditions--Suicide #general

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

I don't know about naming *traditions* in case of a suicide, but I do know
that my father was named for his grandfather, my g-grandfather, who had
committed suicide 14 years earlier.

Of course, the family maintains that my g-grandfather didn't commit
suicide, but died of stomach cancer. Still, they must have known at the
time, and later, too, no matter how hard they tried not to.

My father has his grandfather's exact Hebrew name, so it's a close naming
tie.

Now, if I could only figure out where they buried my g-grandfather. I
suspect there is no gravestone for a suicide, and I'm sure if I'm wrong
someone on the list will correct me. :-)

--Harriet Brown
Madison, WI


Re: "Piusk" ( or "Piesk" or "Piaski") #general

NFatouros@...
 

Yesterday, soon after I sent in my response to Samuel Lenger's inquiry
about a town he spelled as "Piusk" I received a message >from Sue Shifman
who said that she could not find records for a "Piaski Wielke" which she
said was about 15 miles south of Krakow.

So I rummaged about more than I had bothered to do before I answered Mr.
Lenger and discovered >from Suzan Wynne's book that there are several towns
all called Piaski, in various districts: Brody, Brzesko, Lemberg (Lviv),

Wieliczka, Rudki, and Mosciska.

Now I am even less sure sure than I was about what I told Mr. Lenger
and the group, nor can I help Ms. Shifman other than suggesting, as I did,
that she try to find maps for the several Piaskis to find which one was
closest to Krakow. I hope someone more knowledgeable than I can help.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-19-01


Re: Mark Antokolsky, correction #general

NFatouros@...
 

Since I sent in my last message about the sculptor Mark Antokolsky, I
have learned a tiny bit more about the Antokolsky family. But for now I
want to correct two statements I made on February 21, 2001, which my
Antokolsky correspondents have told me were incorrect.

I had said that Dan Rottenberg in his "Finding our Fathers" indicated
that there are Antokolsky family records at the Central Archives in
Jerusalem. But Paul Antokolsky, great-grandson of one of Mark's brothers,
told me that the only record there is a picture of the sculptor's former
residence in Vilna.

Also, Jean Perkin, another of my correspondents told me this morning
that she had examined marriage registrations at a "family records center"
(FHC?) and discovered that Claude Montefiore had married married a
"Therese," a daughter of a Polish rabbi. So it seems that Claude had not
married a daughter of Mark Antokolsky, as Hirsz Abramowicz said on p. 255
of his "Profiles of a Lost World," and as I had repeated.

I thought I'd better inform the group of these two corrections in case
someone someday does a search through the Discussion Group Archives for
either "Montefiore" or "Antokolsky" and relies on my mistakes.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

03-19-01


Re: Jewish suffix? #general

sallybru@...
 

Nechama is a woman's name.

Naum is a man's name.

Reb is probably Rav or Mister but could be Rabbi.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with accessing NJ Vital Records #general

Karen Pratt <kvpratt@...>
 

Hello JGenners,
I have tried to deal with NJ before and have had many
stumbling blocks.

Recently,I 'found' the NJ Vital Records Site on-line and I
e-mailed for a Death Cert. for:
Dinah GRUDIN, died on 10/19/1992 in Mercer County, NJ.

I received (ASAP),and paid for, a typed record that did
have:
SS#151365957,
Birth 08/08/1896,
Died in Trenton City, Mercer County
Resided in East Windsor Twp., Mercer County, and
State file #19920053403 (is this a "usable" piece of data?)

But --- without 'Informant', which 'Cemetery', 'Place of
Birth', 'Date of Immigration' etc.

1- Is it possible to get a ~photocopy~ of a death cert.
from NJ records? If so, how?
2- Is it possible for you to 'find' the Cemetery where
Dinah is buried?
3- I have a few other vital records, >from NJ, that I would
like to have (ex: D. Cert. for Blanche ABRAMS, died
11/16/1965 in Cranford, NJ)

As to the above questions, if someone has the time to find
out, I would reimurse for the effort.

Regards,
Karen Pratt, Miami, FL; Board Member-at-Large PBC JGS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews of Schwelm 1738 #general

Stephen G. Esrati <stevsta@...>
 

I have a photocopy of the first page of a history of the Jews of Schwelm
by Kurt Wollmerstaedt. That page lists the five Jewish families (23
persons) among the city's 1,300 inhabitants in 1738.
Since this was before the adoption of family names, I list what I can:
--Anschel Hertz, butcher, son of the butcher Joas Hertz
--His mother Frommel, a widow, home maker
--Gottlieb Jude (literally Gottlieb the Jew) (also called Gottlieb
Hertz, butcher, brother of Anschel Hertz
--Meyer Simon, butcher, son of the butcher Simon Jakob
--Abraham Jude (literally Abraham the Jew) (also called Abraham Simon),
butcher, brother of Meyer Simon

There are people with the given name Anschel in my MELCHIOR family tree.

There are also people with the surname HERZ (no "t") in my MELCHIOR and
GOTTSCHALK family trees. Some of those HERZ folk changed their name to
HERZSOHN during the compulsory adoption of family names in the
Napoleonic and post-Napoleonic eras because "Herz" was regarded as a
given name and given names were not allowed as surnames.

--
Stephen G. Esrati
Shaker Heights, OH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Major Update to the Consolidated Jewish Surname Index #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Avotaynu has just made a major update to its Consolidated Jewish
Surname Index located at http://www.avotaynu.com/csi/csi-home.html.
We have added the surnames contained in the following databases:
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
All-Lithuania Database
All-Belarus Database
All-Latvia Database
JewishGen Family Finder

CJSI is a database of databases. It is an index to 31 different
sources of information about (mostly) Jewish surnames. Rather than
searching the indexes for each source separately to see if there is
information relevant to your research, CJSI indicates which
databases contain surnames of interest to you. Links are provided
to other Web sites that either have the databases or information
about how to access the data. Most of the sources that are not
online are published in books or on microfiche. In combination, all
31 sources represent more than 2 million records for approximately
370,000 unique surnames.

CJSI has some special features to enhance it usefulness. The index
is presented in Daitch-Mokotoff soundex order rather than
alphabetically. This means that many spelling variants of a surname
appear on consecutive lines. CJSI is browseable like a telephone
book. It does not merely provide you with a list of surnames that
match the soundex code. Keying in a given surname places you at a
certain point in the database. You can then search up and down the
database beyond the limits of the soundex code. This allows you
also to review surnames that are small variations of the one being
searched. Finally, an advanced search feature allows you to mix
exact matching and soundexing of the letters of the surname
lowering the incidence of false positives (the procedure is
described at the Internet site).

Because these newly added sources are ever growing, Avotaynu plans
to update CJSI at least semi-annually to include the additions that
have been made to these databases.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Icek and Ayzyk #general

sallybru@...
 

While I am not a Polish expert, Icek would be pronounced Itzek and Ayzyk
would not have the tz sound. The 2 names are both derived >from the Hebrew
Isaac, of course, but I have seen references where they were considered
different Yiddish names where the Hebrew names differed.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming Traditions--Suicide #general

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

I don't know about naming *traditions* in case of a suicide, but I do know
that my father was named for his grandfather, my g-grandfather, who had
committed suicide 14 years earlier.

Of course, the family maintains that my g-grandfather didn't commit
suicide, but died of stomach cancer. Still, they must have known at the
time, and later, too, no matter how hard they tried not to.

My father has his grandfather's exact Hebrew name, so it's a close naming
tie.

Now, if I could only figure out where they buried my g-grandfather. I
suspect there is no gravestone for a suicide, and I'm sure if I'm wrong
someone on the list will correct me. :-)

--Harriet Brown
Madison, WI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "Piusk" ( or "Piesk" or "Piaski") #general

NFatouros@...
 

Yesterday, soon after I sent in my response to Samuel Lenger's inquiry
about a town he spelled as "Piusk" I received a message >from Sue Shifman
who said that she could not find records for a "Piaski Wielke" which she
said was about 15 miles south of Krakow.

So I rummaged about more than I had bothered to do before I answered Mr.
Lenger and discovered >from Suzan Wynne's book that there are several towns
all called Piaski, in various districts: Brody, Brzesko, Lemberg (Lviv),

Wieliczka, Rudki, and Mosciska.

Now I am even less sure sure than I was about what I told Mr. Lenger
and the group, nor can I help Ms. Shifman other than suggesting, as I did,
that she try to find maps for the several Piaskis to find which one was
closest to Krakow. I hope someone more knowledgeable than I can help.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.
03-19-01


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mark Antokolsky, correction #general

NFatouros@...
 

Since I sent in my last message about the sculptor Mark Antokolsky, I
have learned a tiny bit more about the Antokolsky family. But for now I
want to correct two statements I made on February 21, 2001, which my
Antokolsky correspondents have told me were incorrect.

I had said that Dan Rottenberg in his "Finding our Fathers" indicated
that there are Antokolsky family records at the Central Archives in
Jerusalem. But Paul Antokolsky, great-grandson of one of Mark's brothers,
told me that the only record there is a picture of the sculptor's former
residence in Vilna.

Also, Jean Perkin, another of my correspondents told me this morning
that she had examined marriage registrations at a "family records center"
(FHC?) and discovered that Claude Montefiore had married married a
"Therese," a daughter of a Polish rabbi. So it seems that Claude had not
married a daughter of Mark Antokolsky, as Hirsz Abramowicz said on p. 255
of his "Profiles of a Lost World," and as I had repeated.

I thought I'd better inform the group of these two corrections in case
someone someday does a search through the Discussion Group Archives for
either "Montefiore" or "Antokolsky" and relies on my mistakes.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY, Odessa, Berdichev; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SHUTZ, SCHUTZ,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse;SAS, Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol; BEHAM,
Salok, Kharkov.

03-19-01


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish suffix? #general

sallybru@...
 

Nechama is a woman's name.

Naum is a man's name.

Reb is probably Rav or Mister but could be Rabbi.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Brzeziny PSA Project -JRI Poland #general

Judith Silver <JRSilver@...>
 

The town of _Brzeziny_ is located some 19 kilometres East of Lodz at
Latitude 51/48 and Longitude 19/45.

There has been a Jewish presence in Brzeziny since the 16th Century and
the Jewish population of the town was recorded as 243 in 1765.
In 1826 , Brzeziny had a similar Jewish population ( 109 Births, 29
Marriages and 50 Deaths ) to neighbouring Lodz , but was gradually
eclipsed in size by the growing metropolis. It nevertheless remained a
significant centre of Jewish life and, like its larger neighbour, was by
the end of the nineteenth century a centre for textiles and tailoring.

The Jewish vital records for Brzeziny for the years 1826 - 1877 were
microfilmed by LDS and the majority of the indexes to these records have
been transcribed by JRI -Poland volunteers and can be accessed online
(http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL).

The Brzeziny PSA Project of JRI-Poland is a project to index the years
-1878-1898 - which were not microfilmed by the Mormons. Most of these
vital records are held in the the Rawa Mazowiecka Regional Archive .
These indices will soon be made available in the JRI-Poland searchable
database.


For more details about the agreement between JRI-Poland and the Polish
State Archives (PSA) and updates on the progress of the Brzeziny PSA
project please see: http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm
and click on 'Status Report: PSA Project Underway'. On the 'Status
Report' page, click on 'Rawa Mazowiecka' in the drop-down menu.

Once the indexes are uploaded to the JRI-Poland database, you may simply
print out an order form >from the JRI-Poland web site and order the records
from the Polish State Archives. For more information, please browse the
website at: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/index.htm.

With your further support, we hope it will be possible to make this data
available very shortly on the JRI-Poland web site.

Judith Silver

Brzeziny Town Leader


Australia CD-ROM Jewish history titles #general

Bernard Kouchel <koosh@...>
 

The Jewish Museum of Australia has published two new CD ROM titles---
-A Distant Home, a history of Jews in Australia
-Jews In Australia, a Swag of Stories
For details contact: info@jewishmuseum.com.au

--
bkouchel@jewishgen.org
Bernard I. Kouchel


Riga and Jekabpils URL change #general

Arlene Beare <arl@...>
 

Jewishgen are moving shtetlinks to new addresses in stages.

new URL for jewishgen shtetlinks <http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org>

The URLs for Riga and Jekabpils are-

<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/riga/rigapage.htm>

<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Jekabpils/Jekabpils.htm>

Please bookmark these new URLs.

Arlene Beare
President Latvia SIG

London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001
info.london2001@talk21.com


NICANOR #general

Laurent Germanaud <malaviel@...>
 

Hello to everyone.

I've found the name Nicanor in my father's family.
Does somone know something about it?
Where does it come from?What does it mean?

Thanks In Advance
Violette Novo Germanaud
malaviel@club-internet.fr