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Portable Computer #latvia

CWhippman@...
 

Dear All,
I am writing in hopes that one or more of you may be in a position to donate
a good condition second hand portable computer that you no longer need to the
All Latvia Database project. We have managed to make some excellent contacts
in Riga with whom we are working who would be willing to help with data entry
if we are able to assist with the loan of a portable computer. I know this
is a lot to ask but just on the off chance that someone may be upgrading and
be willing to see their old model put to good hard work preserving the Jewish
heritage of Latvia this is the perfect opportunity. The specification does
no need to be unduly high but we need to be able to sustain programmes for
Excel and basic Word for Windows. If possible Windows 95 or higher. If you
could e-mail me and tell me where you are then we will try to think of a way
to get it transported to Riga.....with someone travelling there. I am likely
to be going over in the next few months and certainly in November. Since a
number of you are coming over to London to the conference there is a good
chance we may be able to find someone who will be able to get it >from the US
to London that way. I can then get it to Riga. Believe me it will be put to
good use and we will all benefit >from it in a very short time.
For those of you considering coming to the wonderful JewishGen conference
here in London I am happy to report that the sun is shinning and it is going
to be great fun. Please e-mail me or Arlene if you have Latvian roots. This
is going to be the best conference ever.
Best to all,
Constance [e-mailing >from London, Database Co-Ordinator]


Latvia SIG #Latvia Portable Computer #latvia

CWhippman@...
 

Dear All,
I am writing in hopes that one or more of you may be in a position to donate
a good condition second hand portable computer that you no longer need to the
All Latvia Database project. We have managed to make some excellent contacts
in Riga with whom we are working who would be willing to help with data entry
if we are able to assist with the loan of a portable computer. I know this
is a lot to ask but just on the off chance that someone may be upgrading and
be willing to see their old model put to good hard work preserving the Jewish
heritage of Latvia this is the perfect opportunity. The specification does
no need to be unduly high but we need to be able to sustain programmes for
Excel and basic Word for Windows. If possible Windows 95 or higher. If you
could e-mail me and tell me where you are then we will try to think of a way
to get it transported to Riga.....with someone travelling there. I am likely
to be going over in the next few months and certainly in November. Since a
number of you are coming over to London to the conference there is a good
chance we may be able to find someone who will be able to get it >from the US
to London that way. I can then get it to Riga. Believe me it will be put to
good use and we will all benefit >from it in a very short time.
For those of you considering coming to the wonderful JewishGen conference
here in London I am happy to report that the sun is shinning and it is going
to be great fun. Please e-mail me or Arlene if you have Latvian roots. This
is going to be the best conference ever.
Best to all,
Constance [e-mailing >from London, Database Co-Ordinator]


Re: Ilukste,Latvia,Duma Lists,and South Africa #latvia

Stan Hertzbach <sshertzbach@...>
 

I can answer one part of your question:
"Also on the 1907 Duma revisionary lists there is a number given for some
sort of voting status? Does anyone know how to interprete those numbers?"

There is a description of The Courland 1907 Duma Voters Lists at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/Duma1907.htm
These descriptions are well written, and contain a wealth of information. I
think anyone using a database should take the time to read the description.

Regarding the first column it says:
"The Entry number is of potential interest. The 1907 Voters lists are
organised in two parts. Voters in Section A (sometimes called Section 1),
had substantial real estate or business interests. Those in section B
(sometimes called Section 2) were fully entitled to vote but generally had
less economic and social status than those in Section A. Those included in
Section A were entitled to vote in the first stage of the election and
controlled a large proportion of the vote despite the fact that they are
numerically smaller than number than those voters in the second group. The
importance of the Jewish community to the commercial life of the cities and
towns of Courland is reflected in the high proportion of Jews listed in
both sections. "

Also, for the last column it says:
"Comment Including Eligibility Basis to Vote:
In common with other European countries only males were allowed to vote at
this time. Although the Jews were considered a nationality as opposed to a
religion there was no restriction on their right to vote. In order to be
eligible to vote an individual had to qualify under one of the following eight
categories:
1.Those with real property.
2.Those carrying on a business (retail). This would include
small shopkeepers and there are many Jewish entries.
3.Those engaged in manufacturing business.
4.Those paying house tax.
5.Those paying industrial or business tax.
6.Those living in separate flats (leases of property were not uncommon).
7.Government employees.
8.Those drawing a government pension (former government employees).
In some cases no qualifying basis is given. It is not clear why this is."

The above is but a small fraction of the description of this one database.

Stan Hertzbach
San Francisco CA, USA


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Ilukste,Latvia,Duma Lists,and South Africa #latvia

Stan Hertzbach <sshertzbach@...>
 

I can answer one part of your question:
"Also on the 1907 Duma revisionary lists there is a number given for some
sort of voting status? Does anyone know how to interprete those numbers?"

There is a description of The Courland 1907 Duma Voters Lists at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Latvia/Duma1907.htm
These descriptions are well written, and contain a wealth of information. I
think anyone using a database should take the time to read the description.

Regarding the first column it says:
"The Entry number is of potential interest. The 1907 Voters lists are
organised in two parts. Voters in Section A (sometimes called Section 1),
had substantial real estate or business interests. Those in section B
(sometimes called Section 2) were fully entitled to vote but generally had
less economic and social status than those in Section A. Those included in
Section A were entitled to vote in the first stage of the election and
controlled a large proportion of the vote despite the fact that they are
numerically smaller than number than those voters in the second group. The
importance of the Jewish community to the commercial life of the cities and
towns of Courland is reflected in the high proportion of Jews listed in
both sections. "

Also, for the last column it says:
"Comment Including Eligibility Basis to Vote:
In common with other European countries only males were allowed to vote at
this time. Although the Jews were considered a nationality as opposed to a
religion there was no restriction on their right to vote. In order to be
eligible to vote an individual had to qualify under one of the following eight
categories:
1.Those with real property.
2.Those carrying on a business (retail). This would include
small shopkeepers and there are many Jewish entries.
3.Those engaged in manufacturing business.
4.Those paying house tax.
5.Those paying industrial or business tax.
6.Those living in separate flats (leases of property were not uncommon).
7.Government employees.
8.Those drawing a government pension (former government employees).
In some cases no qualifying basis is given. It is not clear why this is."

The above is but a small fraction of the description of this one database.

Stan Hertzbach
San Francisco CA, USA


Re: Novgorod #latvia

BABYCAT3@...
 

since i have been so far unable to find what alk is derived from, i thought
the town olyka might contain a clue. i know for sure that alk was shortened,
i just don't know >from what.
regards
barbara


Searching Barmazel/Barmasel/Bahrmazel family #latvia

mbarmazel@...
 

Hello-
I have been researching my family and seemed to have hit
a wall. I am looking for more information about Wulff
Barmasel (circa early 1800's) and his sons Meyer (myggf),
Moshe and Avram Mordechai >from Dvinsk (Daugavpils).

Most of the Barmazels/Barmasels/Bahrmasels emigrated in
the early 1900's-1910's to the US (although I heard one
went to London and used the name Bromsel).

I know that Meyer's son Michael (my gf) came to the US on
the ship the Russia out of Libau in 1909 at the age of 11
with his older brother Itzchac. I also found "family
records" on the Jewish Families of Dvinsk database at
JewishGen (although I don't know what "family records"
means and would like to find out the sources for this).

I would like to find out more information on the
Barmazels of Dvinsk. If anyone can help me with this, I
would be grateful.

-Michelle Barmazel


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Novgorod #latvia

BABYCAT3@...
 

since i have been so far unable to find what alk is derived from, i thought
the town olyka might contain a clue. i know for sure that alk was shortened,
i just don't know >from what.
regards
barbara


Latvia SIG #Latvia Searching Barmazel/Barmasel/Bahrmazel family #latvia

mbarmazel@...
 

Hello-
I have been researching my family and seemed to have hit
a wall. I am looking for more information about Wulff
Barmasel (circa early 1800's) and his sons Meyer (myggf),
Moshe and Avram Mordechai >from Dvinsk (Daugavpils).

Most of the Barmazels/Barmasels/Bahrmasels emigrated in
the early 1900's-1910's to the US (although I heard one
went to London and used the name Bromsel).

I know that Meyer's son Michael (my gf) came to the US on
the ship the Russia out of Libau in 1909 at the age of 11
with his older brother Itzchac. I also found "family
records" on the Jewish Families of Dvinsk database at
JewishGen (although I don't know what "family records"
means and would like to find out the sources for this).

I would like to find out more information on the
Barmazels of Dvinsk. If anyone can help me with this, I
would be grateful.

-Michelle Barmazel


Miami, Florida Probates #general

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

Can anyone assist me in locating a probate of someone who died in Miami or
Miami Beach (Is there a difference?) in 1953?

Please reply privately.

Louis Zetler
zetler@kinneret.co.il

Searching: ZETLER >from Dyatlovo (formerly Zhetl), Baranovich and South
Africa; GORONOVSKY >from Slonim and South Africa; CHAIT >from Birzh, ZAK
from Shukian; GOLDBERG >from Akmene, Tartu & South Africa; SUNTOTSKY from
Lithuania; ZATZ >from Volhenya; SUGAR >from Hull; SHUSTER >from England.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Miami, Florida Probates #general

Louis Zetler <zetler@...>
 

Can anyone assist me in locating a probate of someone who died in Miami or
Miami Beach (Is there a difference?) in 1953?

Please reply privately.

Louis Zetler
zetler@kinneret.co.il

Searching: ZETLER >from Dyatlovo (formerly Zhetl), Baranovich and South
Africa; GORONOVSKY >from Slonim and South Africa; CHAIT >from Birzh, ZAK
from Shukian; GOLDBERG >from Akmene, Tartu & South Africa; SUNTOTSKY from
Lithuania; ZATZ >from Volhenya; SUGAR >from Hull; SHUSTER >from England.


Beth Moses Cemetery, Pinelawn, NY #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Is there anyone out there planning on visiting Beth Moses Cemetery
during the coming month? If so, would it be possible for you to take
one tombstone photo for me?

If you can do this, please contact me privately, and I will give you the
necessary information.

Thanks,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
South Florida
<rickiz@mindspring.com>


Re: When, and where did the Holocaust start? #general

GRAMAW
 

Holocaust scholars generally refer to Kristallnacht, November 9, 1938
as the beginning of the Holocaust, though incidents occured prior to
that date.
Myra Shalet, Leawood, KS <Myrashalet@aol.com>


ICOWICZ/ITZKOWICZ #general

aubrey <marie@...>
 

I have relaetives >from Skierniewice of this name - last heard of in
NY 1969. There is an Israeli food manufacturer with this name

Information gratefully received

Aubrey Jacobus
check my Genealogical Website
www.mjacobus.freeserve.co.uk
reply to
aubrey@jacobus.org


Henry James GOLDSTON #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <Dandr@...>
 

I just wanted to thank everyone for replying so quickly to my request for
details on Henry James Goldston. Silly me, I forgot to say that Bremerton
was in Washington State - some of the replies queried this.

With best wishes for Pesach.

Rosemary Wenzerul
( dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk )
Researching: VANDERMOLEN/MOLEN, GOLDSTON, BARNETT, NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN,
BENJAMIN, MYERS AND WENZERUL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Beth Moses Cemetery, Pinelawn, NY #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Is there anyone out there planning on visiting Beth Moses Cemetery
during the coming month? If so, would it be possible for you to take
one tombstone photo for me?

If you can do this, please contact me privately, and I will give you the
necessary information.

Thanks,
(Mrs.) Ricki Randall Zunk
South Florida
<rickiz@mindspring.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: When, and where did the Holocaust start? #general

GRAMAW
 

Holocaust scholars generally refer to Kristallnacht, November 9, 1938
as the beginning of the Holocaust, though incidents occured prior to
that date.
Myra Shalet, Leawood, KS <Myrashalet@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ICOWICZ/ITZKOWICZ #general

aubrey <marie@...>
 

I have relaetives >from Skierniewice of this name - last heard of in
NY 1969. There is an Israeli food manufacturer with this name

Information gratefully received

Aubrey Jacobus
check my Genealogical Website
www.mjacobus.freeserve.co.uk
reply to
aubrey@jacobus.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Henry James GOLDSTON #general

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <Dandr@...>
 

I just wanted to thank everyone for replying so quickly to my request for
details on Henry James Goldston. Silly me, I forgot to say that Bremerton
was in Washington State - some of the replies queried this.

With best wishes for Pesach.

Rosemary Wenzerul
( dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk )
Researching: VANDERMOLEN/MOLEN, GOLDSTON, BARNETT, NUNES-MARTINES/MARTIN,
BENJAMIN, MYERS AND WENZERUL.


Accuracy of Records #general

ctf-genealogy@...
 

If anyone doubts that there are inaccuracies on their ancestors or their
own birth records, etc. count the typos in one days worth of JewishGen
mailing list e-mails. Everyone makes mistakes sometimes. I just found my
father's cousin and we already found one spelling difference! I just look
at it as a new surname to check until I find this woman and her family.

V. Friedman
Acworth, GA
ctf-genealogy@mindspring.com


Re: Migration from Ukraine to Lithuania? #general

Dov Levin <dovlevin@...>
 

Dear Mr. Cohen and other friends to whom it may concern,
Shalom >from Yerushalayim,
As you can find in my book "The Litvaks" (p.81) over 1,500 Lithuanian
Jewish families had settled in Kherson and other localities in Southern
Russia. While a large proportion of of these made their living >from rafts
or agriculture,there were others who engaged in petty trade and peddling.
Once settled, they attracted relatives, friends and aquaitances to these
regions.
Have a nice and Kosher Pessach
Prof. Dov Levin

From: Morton Cohen <cohenme@localnet.com,>

I have seen many references to Jews going >from Lithuania to other
places in Russia but wonder if movement the other way was common.