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Help finding cousins in Italy: WIENER LESSER / lESER #general

Kamtraub@...
 

Dear Jenners,

It seems that I have a relative of whom I was unaware living in Italy.
Her family previously was in Zurich, Austria. Her name is or was WIENER
LESSER or WIENER LESER. Her first name is Fanny. She is now living in
Italy, but I have no idea where. I also do not know her age, but am
guessing she is about 50 to 60.

Any ideas on how I might find her would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Phil Weintraub
Oakland, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help finding cousins in Italy: WIENER LESSER / lESER #general

Kamtraub@...
 

Dear Jenners,

It seems that I have a relative of whom I was unaware living in Italy.
Her family previously was in Zurich, Austria. Her name is or was WIENER
LESSER or WIENER LESER. Her first name is Fanny. She is now living in
Italy, but I have no idea where. I also do not know her age, but am
guessing she is about 50 to 60.

Any ideas on how I might find her would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Phil Weintraub
Oakland, CA


Re: Reminder: Ellis Island American Family History Immigration Center #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

When a new database online is announced I make it a practice
to forget about it for at least two weeks. Then it is easier to get
on and takes much less time to download files.

Diane Jacobs
New York

Anybody know what _ time _ this thing is going to become available? It's
going to crash a few minutes later, when ten million crazed genealogists
all try to get access at the same time!

And you thought that it was difficult to get a dial tone on Mother's Day!

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Reminder: Ellis Island American Family History Immigration Center #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

When a new database online is announced I make it a practice
to forget about it for at least two weeks. Then it is easier to get
on and takes much less time to download files.

Diane Jacobs
New York

Anybody know what _ time _ this thing is going to become available? It's
going to crash a few minutes later, when ten million crazed genealogists
all try to get access at the same time!

And you thought that it was difficult to get a dial tone on Mother's Day!

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA


Re: Reminder: Ellis Island American Family History Immigration Center #general

Ernest Fine <efine@...>
 

Anybody know what _ time _ this thing is going to become available? It's
going to crash a few minutes later, when ten million crazed genealogists
all try to get access at the same time!

And you thought that it was difficult to get a dial tone on Mother's Day!

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA


"Nancy Ring-Kendrick" < kendrickkreation@... > wrote:


This correspondence is as a reminder that the Family Immigration Center
site is scheduled to become active on April 17th. For more information:
http://www.ellisisland.org/history.html
http://www.familytreemagazine.com/articles/apr01/ellisdb.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Reminder: Ellis Island American Family History Immigration Center #general

Ernest Fine <efine@...>
 

Anybody know what _ time _ this thing is going to become available? It's
going to crash a few minutes later, when ten million crazed genealogists
all try to get access at the same time!

And you thought that it was difficult to get a dial tone on Mother's Day!

Ernie Fine
Vienna, VA


"Nancy Ring-Kendrick" < kendrickkreation@... > wrote:


This correspondence is as a reminder that the Family Immigration Center
site is scheduled to become active on April 17th. For more information:
http://www.ellisisland.org/history.html
http://www.familytreemagazine.com/articles/apr01/ellisdb.html


Rio de Janeiro: KALSBACH and STEGE #general

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Searching for descendants of Hans and Paula ROSENFELD. Daughters were
Hilde KALSBACH (4 children) and Elsa STEGE (3 children). All emigrated
to Rio de Janeiro during WWII.

Randy Schoenberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rio de Janeiro: KALSBACH and STEGE #general

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Searching for descendants of Hans and Paula ROSENFELD. Daughters were
Hilde KALSBACH (4 children) and Elsa STEGE (3 children). All emigrated
to Rio de Janeiro during WWII.

Randy Schoenberg


(No subject) #general

Curiousyl@...
 

The announcement re the Ellis Island Database was also received by
subscribers to "Nu?What's New?" in Gary Mokotoff's ezine April 1.

".......can be accessed at the family Immigration History Center on the
island or online at:
http://www.ellisisland.org/history.html

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (no subject) #general

Curiousyl@...
 

The announcement re the Ellis Island Database was also received by
subscribers to "Nu?What's New?" in Gary Mokotoff's ezine April 1.

".......can be accessed at the family Immigration History Center on the
island or online at:
http://www.ellisisland.org/history.html

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
Florida


St. John, New Brunswick #general

Elsie Duman <chava@...>
 

There is indeed a Jewish community in St. John, and you can learn more
about it at the Saint John Jewish Historical Museum, 29 Wellington Row,
Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada E2L 3H4. It was at one time a vibrant
community, but is now desribed as one of the "diminishing" communities of
North America, with most young Jew either leaving or intermarrying.

Elsie Duman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen St. John, New Brunswick #general

Elsie Duman <chava@...>
 

There is indeed a Jewish community in St. John, and you can learn more
about it at the Saint John Jewish Historical Museum, 29 Wellington Row,
Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada E2L 3H4. It was at one time a vibrant
community, but is now desribed as one of the "diminishing" communities of
North America, with most young Jew either leaving or intermarrying.

Elsie Duman


Ellis Island post-1924 #general

irvjs@...
 

In a message dated 04/14/2001 1:02:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Nancy
Ring-Kendrick writes "Remember, Ellis Island did not open until 1892.
The peak period for passenger immigration to Ellis Island according to
their site is "1892 - 1924."

While that is true, Ellis Island was certainly used for many years after
1924. My parents and I were detained on Ellis I. for a week in April 1941,
after arriving on the Serpa Pinto >from Lisbon at the end of March.
Does anyone know (1) what reasons there were for detention at that time,
and (2) how long such use of Ellis I. continued?

Irwin Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno),
HALPERN/GALPERN (Grodno)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ellis Island post-1924 #general

irvjs@...
 

In a message dated 04/14/2001 1:02:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Nancy
Ring-Kendrick writes "Remember, Ellis Island did not open until 1892.
The peak period for passenger immigration to Ellis Island according to
their site is "1892 - 1924."

While that is true, Ellis Island was certainly used for many years after
1924. My parents and I were detained on Ellis I. for a week in April 1941,
after arriving on the Serpa Pinto >from Lisbon at the end of March.
Does anyone know (1) what reasons there were for detention at that time,
and (2) how long such use of Ellis I. continued?

Irwin Schiffres
Rochester, NY
Searching HOLSTEIN or SPEIER-HOLSTEIN (Neuenbrunslar, Gensungen)
KAHN (Alsace, Belgium), SCHIFFRES/SHIFRES/SZYFRES (Grodno),
HALPERN/GALPERN (Grodno)


Glasgow: PIERCE #general

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Helene PIERCE nee TRAUBENBERG. She had three
daughters and lived in Glasgow. Her sister Dorothea FUCHS lived in the USA
and also had 3 children. I am looking for them also.

Randy Schoenberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Glasgow: PIERCE #general

E. Randol Schoenberg <randols@...>
 

Looking for descendants of Helene PIERCE nee TRAUBENBERG. She had three
daughters and lived in Glasgow. Her sister Dorothea FUCHS lived in the USA
and also had 3 children. I am looking for them also.

Randy Schoenberg


Obidiah? #general

Udi Cain
 

In the book of Nechemia chapter 10:
"6. Harim, Meremoth, Obadiah,
7. Daniel, Ginnethon, Baruch,
8. Meshullam, Abijah, Mijamin,
9. Maaziah, Bilgai, Shemaiah; these were the priests."
So. Obadia was a priest, and we know that the bible is full of symbolism.
But, in the dictionary, we have not only: Oved=Slave; Servile; Sert;
Servant etc. Also we have: Worshiper.
So if we have Obadiah represented in the bible as priest, and the
dictionary has an explanation: Worshiper, why choose another explanation
when it's not there?
Since there are no more Priests serving in the temple, their successors
are the Rabbis' and the Cantors in the synagogues.
Abdulla, means indeed a slave / servant of god, but our religion is somehow
different >from that of the Arabs, and so are the words and names, even if
they sound alike, not always do they express the exact same meaning. There
were no Abdullas' priests in the temple.
Also, I wrote that: "I don't know of any direct equivalent"
So why should I be interpreted differently?

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

M.B. wrote:

==May I make some corrections please so that others not be misled:

Ovadyah (Obadiah) is the name of one of the "Lesser Twelve" prophets and
author of the brief book by that name, wich means "servant of God." It is
in no way associated with or limited to ritual functions, and is in now
way llimited to or assciated with being as priest, rabbi, cantor or
anything else, whether Orthodox or reform, male or female. and is in
common usage among Jews as a first and as a family name. The Hebrew name
can be equated with the Arabic Abdullah, which is a direct translation.
Furthermore, the functions of rabbi or cantor did not exist until many,
many centuries after the time of the prophet Ovadyah

There is not, to the best of my knowledge, any Hebrew name that is in any
way a female equivalent. Perhaps the closest is Batya (Bassye in
Yiddish, often rendered Bessie in English) which means "daughter of God."
The is the name attributed to the daughter of a famed rabbi who, despite
being a woman, was a talmud scholar in her own right and who donned
tallit and tefillin for prayer. That could be a fitting name to chose
for calling a female in honor of a departed Ovadya

If you're looking for a genealogical equivalent to Ovadyah, there is
none.

Michael bernet, New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obidiah? #general

Udi Cain
 

In the book of Nechemia chapter 10:
"6. Harim, Meremoth, Obadiah,
7. Daniel, Ginnethon, Baruch,
8. Meshullam, Abijah, Mijamin,
9. Maaziah, Bilgai, Shemaiah; these were the priests."
So. Obadia was a priest, and we know that the bible is full of symbolism.
But, in the dictionary, we have not only: Oved=Slave; Servile; Sert;
Servant etc. Also we have: Worshiper.
So if we have Obadiah represented in the bible as priest, and the
dictionary has an explanation: Worshiper, why choose another explanation
when it's not there?
Since there are no more Priests serving in the temple, their successors
are the Rabbis' and the Cantors in the synagogues.
Abdulla, means indeed a slave / servant of god, but our religion is somehow
different >from that of the Arabs, and so are the words and names, even if
they sound alike, not always do they express the exact same meaning. There
were no Abdullas' priests in the temple.
Also, I wrote that: "I don't know of any direct equivalent"
So why should I be interpreted differently?

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

M.B. wrote:

==May I make some corrections please so that others not be misled:

Ovadyah (Obadiah) is the name of one of the "Lesser Twelve" prophets and
author of the brief book by that name, wich means "servant of God." It is
in no way associated with or limited to ritual functions, and is in now
way llimited to or assciated with being as priest, rabbi, cantor or
anything else, whether Orthodox or reform, male or female. and is in
common usage among Jews as a first and as a family name. The Hebrew name
can be equated with the Arabic Abdullah, which is a direct translation.
Furthermore, the functions of rabbi or cantor did not exist until many,
many centuries after the time of the prophet Ovadyah

There is not, to the best of my knowledge, any Hebrew name that is in any
way a female equivalent. Perhaps the closest is Batya (Bassye in
Yiddish, often rendered Bessie in English) which means "daughter of God."
The is the name attributed to the daughter of a famed rabbi who, despite
being a woman, was a talmud scholar in her own right and who donned
tallit and tefillin for prayer. That could be a fitting name to chose
for calling a female in honor of a departed Ovadya

If you're looking for a genealogical equivalent to Ovadyah, there is
none.

Michael bernet, New York
MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately


Witeldovo?Latvia #latvia

Craig Sugerman <csug18@...>
 

Can anyone identify a shtetl in Latvia called Witeldovo? Is it possible this
is located near(Daugavpils)Dvinsk? The name Witeldovo is how it reads on
boat manifest as last residence. The person in question was born in Dvinsk.
Thank You, Craig Sugerman
email csug18@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Witeldovo?Latvia #latvia

Craig Sugerman <csug18@...>
 

Can anyone identify a shtetl in Latvia called Witeldovo? Is it possible this
is located near(Daugavpils)Dvinsk? The name Witeldovo is how it reads on
boat manifest as last residence. The person in question was born in Dvinsk.
Thank You, Craig Sugerman
email csug18@...