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GRODZINSKY and GROZOFSKY rabbinic families #rabbinic

zerakodesh@...
 

I am updating my records and am looking for information concerning the
GRODZINSKY family of rabbis and also the GROZOFSKY family of rabbis.

Anyone have information about these groups?

George SACKHEIM
Skokie, Illinois


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic GRODZINSKY and GROZOFSKY rabbinic families #rabbinic

zerakodesh@...
 

I am updating my records and am looking for information concerning the
GRODZINSKY family of rabbis and also the GROZOFSKY family of rabbis.

Anyone have information about these groups?

George SACKHEIM
Skokie, Illinois


Re: A Short History of the Jews of Lithuanis by Dov Levin #general

Donald & Sandra Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Thought you'd like to know that this book is available on the JewishGenMall
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall at a special price!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Co-Managers JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, FL

From: "Rosalind Romem" <rromem@...>

This is a beautiful book and a lovely introduction to the subject.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A Short History of the Jews of Lithuanis by Dov Levin #general

Donald & Sandra Hirschhorn <donsandyh@...>
 

Thought you'd like to know that this book is available on the JewishGenMall
http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall at a special price!

Sandy and Don Hirschhorn
Co-Managers JewishGen Mall
Boca Raton, FL

From: "Rosalind Romem" <rromem@...>

This is a beautiful book and a lovely introduction to the subject.


TRUPP/TROPP #general

DREIMAN <m4fab4@...>
 

Hello to all,
Just posting the name in case there are newcomers to the group!

GGF Yosef Trupp >from Tartak Ukraine. Said to be of Prussian descent.
Married to Bersheba Meyerson. Left Russia for Argentina around 1906 with
children Maier, Mendel, Sender, Usher, Feige, Jacie and Eidel. My
grandfather said they lived close enough to Kiev to go >from time to time.
My grandfather (Mendel) used to say they could speak Russian and German, as
well as Yiddish and Hebrew. If they had stayed in Russia, he would have
become a hazan. They are Kohanim, according to the family "legend".

Would love to hear >from others with TRUPP/TROPP in their family tree.

B'shalom
Mirta Trupp Dreiman
California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TRUPP/TROPP #general

DREIMAN <m4fab4@...>
 

Hello to all,
Just posting the name in case there are newcomers to the group!

GGF Yosef Trupp >from Tartak Ukraine. Said to be of Prussian descent.
Married to Bersheba Meyerson. Left Russia for Argentina around 1906 with
children Maier, Mendel, Sender, Usher, Feige, Jacie and Eidel. My
grandfather said they lived close enough to Kiev to go >from time to time.
My grandfather (Mendel) used to say they could speak Russian and German, as
well as Yiddish and Hebrew. If they had stayed in Russia, he would have
become a hazan. They are Kohanim, according to the family "legend".

Would love to hear >from others with TRUPP/TROPP in their family tree.

B'shalom
Mirta Trupp Dreiman
California


SHERMERHORN ? #general

Suzanne <gypsysm@...>
 

If anyone is looking on EIDB for a Pauline SHERMERHORN, it is listed under
BYRON.

Suzanne Fine
Spring Hill, FL

Searching: FINGERGOIT, SURITZ, SCHURITZ in Latvia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen SHERMERHORN ? #general

Suzanne <gypsysm@...>
 

If anyone is looking on EIDB for a Pauline SHERMERHORN, it is listed under
BYRON.

Suzanne Fine
Spring Hill, FL

Searching: FINGERGOIT, SURITZ, SCHURITZ in Latvia


Re: Cohanim-surnames #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2001 9:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
RWeissJGS@... writes:

<< I'd be careful with assuming that most KATZes are cohanim. The name can
also
be derived >from the occupation "katzov" (butcher).
>>

Yes, there are exceptions to every rule. There were Katzav's of course, but
butchers would more likely be called Fleischmann. I think that shortening the
name Katzav to Katz was rare.

The rule among rabbis, when questioning a couple about to be married (on the
possibility that the bride is a divorcee or convert), assumes that all Katz's
are Cohanim, unless they can prove they're not.

Michael Bernet


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Cohanim-surnames #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2001 9:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
RWeissJGS@... writes:

<< I'd be careful with assuming that most KATZes are cohanim. The name can
also
be derived >from the occupation "katzov" (butcher).
>>

Yes, there are exceptions to every rule. There were Katzav's of course, but
butchers would more likely be called Fleischmann. I think that shortening the
name Katzav to Katz was rare.

The rule among rabbis, when questioning a couple about to be married (on the
possibility that the bride is a divorcee or convert), assumes that all Katz's
are Cohanim, unless they can prove they're not.

Michael Bernet


Re: Chief Rabbi of Transvaal #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2001 9:14:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rromem@... writes:

<< For the sake of accuracy there has never been a Chief Rabbi of South
Africa,
The late Chief Rabbi Louis RABINOWITZ took care of Transvaal and OFS and
Natal. At the same time Chief Rabbi ABRAHAMS officiated over the Cape, South
West Africa (then) and Northern Rhodesia (then).
>>
==Only two chief rabbis. Our tradition is always to have three schuls and
three poskim, one of each for me, one of each for my wife, and one of each
that neither she nor I would trust.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Chief Rabbi of Transvaal #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/8/2001 9:14:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rromem@... writes:

<< For the sake of accuracy there has never been a Chief Rabbi of South
Africa,
The late Chief Rabbi Louis RABINOWITZ took care of Transvaal and OFS and
Natal. At the same time Chief Rabbi ABRAHAMS officiated over the Cape, South
West Africa (then) and Northern Rhodesia (then).
>>
==Only two chief rabbis. Our tradition is always to have three schuls and
three poskim, one of each for me, one of each for my wife, and one of each
that neither she nor I would trust.

Michael Bernet, New York

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Kielce/Radom BMD records #poland

Saville & Lois Kaufman <saville@...>
 

Please can someone tell me whether there are plans to incorporate the
birth/marriage and death records listed in the Kielce/Radom Journals into
the JRI database, thus providing access to all.

Sincerely,
Lois Kaufman


JRI Poland #Poland Kielce/Radom BMD records #poland

Saville & Lois Kaufman <saville@...>
 

Please can someone tell me whether there are plans to incorporate the
birth/marriage and death records listed in the Kielce/Radom Journals into
the JRI database, thus providing access to all.

Sincerely,
Lois Kaufman


Re: Kielce/Radom BMD records #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:05:51 +0200, "Lois Kaufman"
<saville@...> writes:

Please can someone tell me whether there are plans to incorporate the
birth/marriage and death records listed in the Kielce/Radom Journals into
the JRI database, thus providing access to all.
There is a long-standing agreement between the Kielce-Radom SIG
and Jewish Records Indexing - Poland concerning this.

Indices to the extracts published in the "KR-SIG Journal" are
available to JRI-Poland one year after publication.

Go to < http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/kr-sig.htm > to view
a list of KR-SIG extracts already in the JRI-Poland database.

As for those extracts published more than one year ago that
are NOT yet in the JRI-Poland database... that's primarily
because of formatting issues and the need for volunteers to
convert them >from their current WordPerfect or hardcopy format
into spreadsheet/database format acceptable to JRI-Poland.
If you would like to volunteer to assist, please contact the
KR-SIG Journal editor, Warren Blatt at: wblatt@...

JRI-Poland is very appreciative of the spirit of sharing that is
exemplified by this agreement. At the same time, we encourage
our Shtetl CO-OP leaders and volunteers who have indexed records
for towns that fall within the interests of the Kielce-Radom SIG,
to take the next step and create full extracts for publication
in the "Kielce-Radom SIG Journal".

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Kielce/Radom BMD records #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated Fri, 8 Jun 2001 19:05:51 +0200, "Lois Kaufman"
<saville@...> writes:

Please can someone tell me whether there are plans to incorporate the
birth/marriage and death records listed in the Kielce/Radom Journals into
the JRI database, thus providing access to all.
There is a long-standing agreement between the Kielce-Radom SIG
and Jewish Records Indexing - Poland concerning this.

Indices to the extracts published in the "KR-SIG Journal" are
available to JRI-Poland one year after publication.

Go to < http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/kr-sig.htm > to view
a list of KR-SIG extracts already in the JRI-Poland database.

As for those extracts published more than one year ago that
are NOT yet in the JRI-Poland database... that's primarily
because of formatting issues and the need for volunteers to
convert them >from their current WordPerfect or hardcopy format
into spreadsheet/database format acceptable to JRI-Poland.
If you would like to volunteer to assist, please contact the
KR-SIG Journal editor, Warren Blatt at: wblatt@...

JRI-Poland is very appreciative of the spirit of sharing that is
exemplified by this agreement. At the same time, we encourage
our Shtetl CO-OP leaders and volunteers who have indexed records
for towns that fall within the interests of the Kielce-Radom SIG,
to take the next step and create full extracts for publication
in the "Kielce-Radom SIG Journal".

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


June Meeting Greater Orlando Florida #general

SSeckbach
 

Our next meeting is Tuesday, June 12, 2001, in the Senior Lounge of the
JCC. This is our annual sharing success stories and problem solving
meeting. If you have a success story to share please e-mail me so that
I can place you on the agenda. Tuesday bring all of your successes and
problem.

Sim Seckbach
Sseckbach@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen June Meeting Greater Orlando Florida #general

SSeckbach
 

Our next meeting is Tuesday, June 12, 2001, in the Senior Lounge of the
JCC. This is our annual sharing success stories and problem solving
meeting. If you have a success story to share please e-mail me so that
I can place you on the agenda. Tuesday bring all of your successes and
problem.

Sim Seckbach
Sseckbach@...


Kindness & Rudeness #general

Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
 

It seems that some people reply immediately, appreciating that that is the
beauty of email. Others do not differentiate it >from snailmail and forget
to reply. I've had replies after a month. And some don't ever.

However I am overwhelmed at the kindness of people I have never met,
strangers and newly discovered relative alike. After 4 months I have a
wonderful family tree with real people behind some of the "leaves" of the
tree. A big thank you to those wonderful people who make this possible.

However one unpleasant event was a stream of letters >from a regular genner
who objected to the content of a letter I had not actually written but
replied to and eventually became obusive. I gave up trying to reply her.

Shabbat Shalom

Ros Romem


Brooklyn Marriage Indices & Salt Lake City #general

Carol Raspler
 

From: Carol Raspler <craspler@...>
I'm looking for a Brooklyn (Kings County) Marriage Index for 1890 on.
The Family History Catalogue lists one (under New York City) 1894-1897
for Booklyn, and then they exist >from 1897, but I don't see one for the
years preceding.<

Jeremy Frankel of Oakland, CA <jfrankel@...> responded:
In the LDS Research Outline for New York, it lists on page 31 that for
Brooklyn the 1894 - 1937 index is a groom index. They have microfilmed
the marriage certificates for the period 1866-1937. . . There is also
a "consolidated" five borough Soundex index from, I believe 1888 -1937.<


Hi Jeremy and All:
'though my search on the LDS Catalogue is for a Brooklyn Marriage Index
from 1890 and I still don't see it, I have found Groom Index Cards on LDS
Film back to 1866. I hope they include Brooklyn. Is that what you meant?

Jeremy, can you tell us what the LDS Research Outline for New York is?

I am preparing for a summer research trip to SLC by trying to locate the
LDS Film Numbers for everything I want to find out there. One tries to do
this by accessing the LDS Catalogue at FamilySearch.org and working one's
way through it. Sometimes it gives you as much grief as the EIDB. Other
times you get a hit -- also like the EIDB!

These are the same microfilms that you can order through your local Family
History Center should you be fortunate enough to have one in your town.
Good luck to us all,
Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL