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Suggestions wanted: where is Dzielitz #general

Jeanne Gold <Groupie@...>
 

While searching the Ellis Island data, a friend found a record which
might be my family. However, currently on the text manifest is
available.

from this little information, the people on the manifest show their
last residence as Dzielitz.

Any ideas on where this might be? Has anyone come across the town
before?

If this is indeed my family, my great-grandfather's intent to
naturalize states he was born in Amdur (Indura), Grodno Gubernia.

The folks on this manifest, if his family, would be his brother and
father.

Any possibility of a town, Dzielitz, being near (or within hailing
distance) of Amdur (Indura)?

Any thoughts on this are most welcome.

Jeanne
Visit us at:
http://www.digging4roots.com/


Re: Medingen Mystery Letter from 1946 #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

So, I am very open to suggestions as to how to further research this
mystery family >from Nov. 9, 1946 in Riga and Medingen who were writing to my
mother in Brooklyn.
I would suggest two things, Judy. First write to the Stadtarchiv of
Medingen. You have the address and the first name of the family. They may
be able to research that for you.

from the way I read the letter, Werner is Tilly's son. Have you no Jacks or
Jacobs or Yankels in your mother's family? I had the feeling that either
Jack was one of the people whose wife was killed [the sister in laws], or
he was the person protecting her and Werner. I hope you let us know how
this all comes out!

Martha


EIDB-Here's a huge helping hand #latvia

carol skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Dear Friends,

If you have been frustrated by the many steps you have to go through in the Ellis Island Database in order to get to the actual immigrant names ...


If you have been driven to distraction with the inconsistencies in how the volunteers interpreted and misspelled the surnames they entered...


help is now at hand!


Thanks to JewishGenner Ed Rosenbaum who wrote the name permutation program which will give you every conceivable spelling of any surname you enter, it's here and the JewishGenMall has it!


Ed has also built in a direct access system of getting you directly to the immigrant names, bypassing the EIDB search page. Now you can do your research in less then 1/2 the time.


And if this wasn't good enough news, you are welcome to **try** the program **before** you purchase it. Go directly to http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall


select Browse Mall,

click on Software and scroll down to

EIDB Permutation Program,

click on the link to read a bit about it and then

click on the link that will take you to the Permutation Program


After you've tried it out please come back to the JewishGenMall and make your purchase. It's only $19.99


For all our JewishGenners living outside the U.S. , we will have a credit card payment system online shortly where you can pay and have your card charged in your own currency and JewishGen will receive the proper amount in U.S. dollars.


Hope this helps you all...to make EIDB searches quicker and more complete... to make purchases in the Mall...and to make an annual supportive gift to JewishGen.


Carol


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JewishGen Operations

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Suggestions wanted: where is Dzielitz #general

Jeanne Gold <Groupie@...>
 

While searching the Ellis Island data, a friend found a record which
might be my family. However, currently on the text manifest is
available.

from this little information, the people on the manifest show their
last residence as Dzielitz.

Any ideas on where this might be? Has anyone come across the town
before?

If this is indeed my family, my great-grandfather's intent to
naturalize states he was born in Amdur (Indura), Grodno Gubernia.

The folks on this manifest, if his family, would be his brother and
father.

Any possibility of a town, Dzielitz, being near (or within hailing
distance) of Amdur (Indura)?

Any thoughts on this are most welcome.

Jeanne
Visit us at:
http://www.digging4roots.com/


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Medingen Mystery Letter from 1946 #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

So, I am very open to suggestions as to how to further research this
mystery family >from Nov. 9, 1946 in Riga and Medingen who were writing to my
mother in Brooklyn.
I would suggest two things, Judy. First write to the Stadtarchiv of
Medingen. You have the address and the first name of the family. They may
be able to research that for you.

from the way I read the letter, Werner is Tilly's son. Have you no Jacks or
Jacobs or Yankels in your mother's family? I had the feeling that either
Jack was one of the people whose wife was killed [the sister in laws], or
he was the person protecting her and Werner. I hope you let us know how
this all comes out!

Martha


Latvia SIG #Latvia EIDB-Here's a huge helping hand #latvia

carol skydell <cskydell@...>
 

Dear Friends,

If you have been frustrated by the many steps you have to go through in the Ellis Island Database in order to get to the actual immigrant names ...


If you have been driven to distraction with the inconsistencies in how the volunteers interpreted and misspelled the surnames they entered...


help is now at hand!


Thanks to JewishGenner Ed Rosenbaum who wrote the name permutation program which will give you every conceivable spelling of any surname you enter, it's here and the JewishGenMall has it!


Ed has also built in a direct access system of getting you directly to the immigrant names, bypassing the EIDB search page. Now you can do your research in less then 1/2 the time.


And if this wasn't good enough news, you are welcome to **try** the program **before** you purchase it. Go directly to http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgenmall


select Browse Mall,

click on Software and scroll down to

EIDB Permutation Program,

click on the link to read a bit about it and then

click on the link that will take you to the Permutation Program


After you've tried it out please come back to the JewishGenMall and make your purchase. It's only $19.99


For all our JewishGenners living outside the U.S. , we will have a credit card payment system online shortly where you can pay and have your card charged in your own currency and JewishGen will receive the proper amount in U.S. dollars.


Hope this helps you all...to make EIDB searches quicker and more complete... to make purchases in the Mall...and to make an annual supportive gift to JewishGen.


Carol


Carol W. Skydell, Vice President

JewishGen Operations

<bold><italic>JewishGen is a public service non-profit 501(c)3
institution

Pledge Your Support To JewishGen, Today.

Your gift makes it all happen!

</italic></bold>

http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/


River Routes and Jewish Sailors #latvia

Knud and Lorraine Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

Further to the discussion re Jewish sailors, my late Mama Nana (maternal
GM), born in Libau in 1898, ended up in Odessa with her Mother (born Vilna)
and then emigrated with my GF and my Mother (both born Odessa) to Monreal
in the mid-1920s.

My Mama Nana's step-sister, possibly born about 1900 (not sure where
exactly, but possibly somewhere in Podolya) married Marek Gorodnik who was
possibly an officer in the Russian merchant fleet. I definitely know he
was a soldier in the Russian Army in WWI and possibly also a
prisoner-of-war (like my GF) as we have a copy of a postcard he sent back
to Odessa >from Germany, bearing his photograph, in uniform (possibly though
it is a military, not naval uniform - but I am really not sure about this -
I only have a scan of the postcard).

Anyway, we have another photograph of my Mama Nana's step-sister and her
husband, taken sometime in the 1950s in Odessa, and Marek is wearing a
peaked cap, which my friend Filipp assured me is definitely a merchant
officer's cap, although Marek would have definitely been retired when the
photograph was taken.

So I think it is quite possible that Jewish men served in Russian merchant
and military naval fleets.

Lorraine Bertelsen


Latvia SIG #Latvia River Routes and Jewish Sailors #latvia

Knud and Lorraine Bertelsen <klb@...>
 

Further to the discussion re Jewish sailors, my late Mama Nana (maternal
GM), born in Libau in 1898, ended up in Odessa with her Mother (born Vilna)
and then emigrated with my GF and my Mother (both born Odessa) to Monreal
in the mid-1920s.

My Mama Nana's step-sister, possibly born about 1900 (not sure where
exactly, but possibly somewhere in Podolya) married Marek Gorodnik who was
possibly an officer in the Russian merchant fleet. I definitely know he
was a soldier in the Russian Army in WWI and possibly also a
prisoner-of-war (like my GF) as we have a copy of a postcard he sent back
to Odessa >from Germany, bearing his photograph, in uniform (possibly though
it is a military, not naval uniform - but I am really not sure about this -
I only have a scan of the postcard).

Anyway, we have another photograph of my Mama Nana's step-sister and her
husband, taken sometime in the 1950s in Odessa, and Marek is wearing a
peaked cap, which my friend Filipp assured me is definitely a merchant
officer's cap, although Marek would have definitely been retired when the
photograph was taken.

So I think it is quite possible that Jewish men served in Russian merchant
and military naval fleets.

Lorraine Bertelsen


Searching Descendants of Chaim, Joseph, David KRAVITZ #general

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

I had despaired of ever finding out anything about my grandfather's KRAWITZ
/ KRAVITZ family, since my ggf died while my gf was young, and very little
was known about him (I even have conflicting evidence about what his first
name was). In any case, I was thrilled to find my gf's ship manifest on
the EIDB, and found that he listed his uncle, "H. Crowitz, *** Suffolk, NY"
as the relative he was going to join. "H. Crowitz" was variously Herman,
Hyman, or Hayam KRAVITZ (the original spelling was KRAWITZ). He married
Ida/Anna (Chaie), and had children named Fannie (Feige), Jennie (Selde),
Joseph (Jossel), Ethel, and David. Ship record for the mother and three
children shows that they were >from "Shud", most likely Shkud (Skuodas), but
probably originating in nearby Mosedis. The mother listed her husband as
"C. Krawitz", so I'm guessing his name was Chaim. Ethel and David were
born in the U.S., in about 1904 and 1906, respectively. Father came to the
U.S. about 1896.

I'd love to find descendants of this family, and am still in hot pursuit
tracing them, but figured I would post this in case any of this sounds
familiar to anybody. According to census records, the family lived in New
York in 1905, and the mother, father, Ethel and David were still in New
York City in 1920.

Please contact me privately if this rings a bell.

Marion Werle <werle@...>

Searching: MOLCHADSKY (Kossovo, Bereza and Pruzhany, Belarus); RATNER
(Kossovo, Belarus); SKUTELSKI, GETZ (Riebene, Latvia); MINSK (Daugavpils,
Latvia); SKUDER/SCUDER, COHEN (Skuodas and Anyksciai, Lith.); KRAWITZ
(Mosedis, Lith.);
MARCUS (Anyksciai and Ukmerge, Lith.); PANOVSKY/PANOFF (Ukmerge and
Anyksciai, Lith.)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching Descendants of Chaim, Joseph, David KRAVITZ #general

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

I had despaired of ever finding out anything about my grandfather's KRAWITZ
/ KRAVITZ family, since my ggf died while my gf was young, and very little
was known about him (I even have conflicting evidence about what his first
name was). In any case, I was thrilled to find my gf's ship manifest on
the EIDB, and found that he listed his uncle, "H. Crowitz, *** Suffolk, NY"
as the relative he was going to join. "H. Crowitz" was variously Herman,
Hyman, or Hayam KRAVITZ (the original spelling was KRAWITZ). He married
Ida/Anna (Chaie), and had children named Fannie (Feige), Jennie (Selde),
Joseph (Jossel), Ethel, and David. Ship record for the mother and three
children shows that they were >from "Shud", most likely Shkud (Skuodas), but
probably originating in nearby Mosedis. The mother listed her husband as
"C. Krawitz", so I'm guessing his name was Chaim. Ethel and David were
born in the U.S., in about 1904 and 1906, respectively. Father came to the
U.S. about 1896.

I'd love to find descendants of this family, and am still in hot pursuit
tracing them, but figured I would post this in case any of this sounds
familiar to anybody. According to census records, the family lived in New
York in 1905, and the mother, father, Ethel and David were still in New
York City in 1920.

Please contact me privately if this rings a bell.

Marion Werle <werle@...>

Searching: MOLCHADSKY (Kossovo, Bereza and Pruzhany, Belarus); RATNER
(Kossovo, Belarus); SKUTELSKI, GETZ (Riebene, Latvia); MINSK (Daugavpils,
Latvia); SKUDER/SCUDER, COHEN (Skuodas and Anyksciai, Lith.); KRAWITZ
(Mosedis, Lith.);
MARCUS (Anyksciai and Ukmerge, Lith.); PANOVSKY/PANOFF (Ukmerge and
Anyksciai, Lith.)


Re: Given name Manim or Monim #general

Elizabeth Melekis <elizabethmelekis@...>
 

So "Munim" would be unique in being the only
Arabic
given name used by
Ashkenazi Jews.
Yes...it would be exceedingly strange :)..but it
does
sound similar...and I think the Arabic would be
spelled similar to the Hebrew that was
mentioned...with the consonants being mem-nun-mem.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Given name Manim or Monim #general

Elizabeth Melekis <elizabethmelekis@...>
 

So "Munim" would be unique in being the only
Arabic
given name used by
Ashkenazi Jews.
Yes...it would be exceedingly strange :)..but it
does
sound similar...and I think the Arabic would be
spelled similar to the Hebrew that was
mentioned...with the consonants being mem-nun-mem.


Town Szineyvaelyc(?) #general

M. Ronn
 

A close friend recently found on the Ellis Island database 1921 ship's
passenger list which list the town of birth of his great-grandfatger
Sigmund Fried which appears to be spelled as "Szineyvaelyc" and is either
in Romania or Hungary. Can anyone help? The Shtetl Seeker has not helped
me. But could it be Szinervaralja (now called Seini) in Romania?

Your helped is appreciated. Please contact me privately.

Yours,

Michoel Ronn
netronn@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town Szineyvaelyc(?) #general

M. Ronn
 

A close friend recently found on the Ellis Island database 1921 ship's
passenger list which list the town of birth of his great-grandfatger
Sigmund Fried which appears to be spelled as "Szineyvaelyc" and is either
in Romania or Hungary. Can anyone help? The Shtetl Seeker has not helped
me. But could it be Szinervaralja (now called Seini) in Romania?

Your helped is appreciated. Please contact me privately.

Yours,

Michoel Ronn
netronn@...


Gotthard Deutsch #general

M. Ronn
 

Writing for a friend: Has anyone done extensive research on the life or
genealogy of the well-known person Gotthard Deutsch (1881-1921).

Yours truly,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY
netronn@...

PS Please respond privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gotthard Deutsch #general

M. Ronn
 

Writing for a friend: Has anyone done extensive research on the life or
genealogy of the well-known person Gotthard Deutsch (1881-1921).

Yours truly,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY
netronn@...

PS Please respond privately.


Translation of Russian language birth record - VM 671 (resend) #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

All,

This is a re-request for a translation of a Russian language birth record
that I have posted on ViewMate. I unfortunately didn't get any response
the first time. It's possible that no one was interested or had time to
respond, but I figured it couldn't hurt to try again.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm671.html

I'm most interested in the usual pertinent info (names, places and dates),
but even just the names would be very helpful. I'm trying to determine if
this is definitely a record of a family member or not.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland

Genealogy Chatroom - http://www.chatsystems.com/~elise/jgchat/
My Genealogy Website - http://www.gencircles.com/users/efriedman/
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK (Horodetz, Kobryn); LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ
(Brest-Litowsk); GORONOVICH/GORONOWITZ (Grodietsk); COOPER/KUPER
(Drohitchyn); EISNER, SASS (Myslowice); MILLER, TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of Russian language birth record - VM 671 (resend) #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

All,

This is a re-request for a translation of a Russian language birth record
that I have posted on ViewMate. I unfortunately didn't get any response
the first time. It's possible that no one was interested or had time to
respond, but I figured it couldn't hurt to try again.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm671.html

I'm most interested in the usual pertinent info (names, places and dates),
but even just the names would be very helpful. I'm trying to determine if
this is definitely a record of a family member or not.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland

Genealogy Chatroom - http://www.chatsystems.com/~elise/jgchat/
My Genealogy Website - http://www.gencircles.com/users/efriedman/
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK (Horodetz, Kobryn); LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ
(Brest-Litowsk); GORONOVICH/GORONOWITZ (Grodietsk); COOPER/KUPER
(Drohitchyn); EISNER, SASS (Myslowice); MILLER, TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo)


mention on a tombstone #rabbinic

Hendlisz Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Hello,
On the tomstone of one of my ancestors, there is an epitaph and I do not
understand all the words:
"Szlama ben Ha Rav Dovid "ZAIN TZADDIK LAMED LAMED YOD HEY", "ALEPH BEIT YOD
DALED",
"DALED KHAF YOD KHAF" Piantki.
I know for sure that this ancestor Szlama HENDLISZ, schojchet in Lodz was
the son of David, Rabbi of PIATEK, that's all. Could somebody help me with
those hebrew words/acronyms ?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic mention on a tombstone #rabbinic

Hendlisz Gilbert <gilbert.hendlisz@...>
 

Hello,
On the tomstone of one of my ancestors, there is an epitaph and I do not
understand all the words:
"Szlama ben Ha Rav Dovid "ZAIN TZADDIK LAMED LAMED YOD HEY", "ALEPH BEIT YOD
DALED",
"DALED KHAF YOD KHAF" Piantki.
I know for sure that this ancestor Szlama HENDLISZ, schojchet in Lodz was
the son of David, Rabbi of PIATEK, that's all. Could somebody help me with
those hebrew words/acronyms ?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Gilbert Hendlisz (Brussels)