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Wilk - Ciechanow, Plock, Poland... #general

Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev <aronbenzev@...>
 

Dear All,

I am new to this group and to genealogy in general, however I am trying to
figure out the ancestry of my father. This is what I have for definite.

Yisroel Tzvi HaKohen Wilk had 3 sons:

Izrajel Szimon Wilk (dob.1876, akt.23)

Abram Ajzyk Wilk (dob.1883, akt.67)

Moszjek Josjek Wilk (dob.1888, akt.1)

Possible mistake of spelling ? Azrijel Szimon m. Ryfka Romanjer in 1897
(akt.12) in the village of Przasnysz, also in the Gubernia of Plock.

We then have Abram Ajzyk (Avraham Yitzchak) Wilk(s) married Sarah Goldstein
in 1906 in London, England.

We also have a very likelihood of the 3 brothers having a sister ?Cyvja La
Wilk (dob.1873, akt.22)?. The reason for my guess here is that my great
grandfather Abram Ajzyk Wilks named 1 of his daughters ?Celia?. Possibility?

We only have some of the descendents of Abram Ajzyk Wilks, however none of
the brothers. Assuming that the record of marriage in Przasnysz is just a
matter of different spellings in different villages, then we know of 1
marriage of 1 of the other brothers.

We can then note, that either all the brothers went on a boat to England
before after 1897 but before 1906, assuming the courting of my great
grandmother took a year and he had to learn English or that at least my
great grandfather went on a boat to England before 1897, without at least 1
brother.

Of course what could help, is somebody else with records. Anything that
might help, I would appreciate.

All the best,

Aron.

Ra'anana, Israel


Help with Yiddish to English names please #general

ComputerCarolyn@...
 

Girsha or Ghirshov =

Faybish or Faytelev =

Leybe =

Dvevr =

= Morris

Carolyn Rossio Javitch, Cleveland OH
Researching: FINESMITH/FAYNSHMIDT, Streshin Belarus
ROSSIO/RASSA, Ostrow Maz Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wilk - Ciechanow, Plock, Poland... #general

Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev <aronbenzev@...>
 

Dear All,

I am new to this group and to genealogy in general, however I am trying to
figure out the ancestry of my father. This is what I have for definite.

Yisroel Tzvi HaKohen Wilk had 3 sons:

Izrajel Szimon Wilk (dob.1876, akt.23)

Abram Ajzyk Wilk (dob.1883, akt.67)

Moszjek Josjek Wilk (dob.1888, akt.1)

Possible mistake of spelling ? Azrijel Szimon m. Ryfka Romanjer in 1897
(akt.12) in the village of Przasnysz, also in the Gubernia of Plock.

We then have Abram Ajzyk (Avraham Yitzchak) Wilk(s) married Sarah Goldstein
in 1906 in London, England.

We also have a very likelihood of the 3 brothers having a sister ?Cyvja La
Wilk (dob.1873, akt.22)?. The reason for my guess here is that my great
grandfather Abram Ajzyk Wilks named 1 of his daughters ?Celia?. Possibility?

We only have some of the descendents of Abram Ajzyk Wilks, however none of
the brothers. Assuming that the record of marriage in Przasnysz is just a
matter of different spellings in different villages, then we know of 1
marriage of 1 of the other brothers.

We can then note, that either all the brothers went on a boat to England
before after 1897 but before 1906, assuming the courting of my great
grandmother took a year and he had to learn English or that at least my
great grandfather went on a boat to England before 1897, without at least 1
brother.

Of course what could help, is somebody else with records. Anything that
might help, I would appreciate.

All the best,

Aron.

Ra'anana, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Yiddish to English names please #general

ComputerCarolyn@...
 

Girsha or Ghirshov =

Faybish or Faytelev =

Leybe =

Dvevr =

= Morris

Carolyn Rossio Javitch, Cleveland OH
Researching: FINESMITH/FAYNSHMIDT, Streshin Belarus
ROSSIO/RASSA, Ostrow Maz Poland


JRI-Poland announces Sokolow Podlaski (Siedlce Archives) indexing project #general

Anne Fendrich <fendrich@...>
 

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland is pleased to announce that indexing is
now underway of the birth, marriage and death records for the town of
Sokolow Podlaski.

The Sokolow Podlaski indices span almost two generations and will
include the following record types and years.

Births: 1826,1865-1899 5,531 records
Grooms: 1826, 1865-1899 904 records
Brides: 1826, 1865-1899 904 records
Deaths: 1826, 1865-1899 3,405 records

Total: 10,744 records

Please note that the Mormons did not film the 1826 vital records.
However, the Sokolow Podlaski indices will include that year.

For more details about the Sokolow Podlaski/Siedlce Archives project,
check the Polish State Archives link on the JRI-Poland web site at
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

JRI-Poland is an independent, non-profit tax exempt organization under
Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service Code. JRI-Poland
is hosted by JewishGen.

Anne Fendrich
Sokolow Podlaski Town Leader
JRI-Poland Siedlce Archive Project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JRI-Poland announces Sokolow Podlaski (Siedlce Archives) indexing project #general

Anne Fendrich <fendrich@...>
 

Jewish Records Indexing-Poland is pleased to announce that indexing is
now underway of the birth, marriage and death records for the town of
Sokolow Podlaski.

The Sokolow Podlaski indices span almost two generations and will
include the following record types and years.

Births: 1826,1865-1899 5,531 records
Grooms: 1826, 1865-1899 904 records
Brides: 1826, 1865-1899 904 records
Deaths: 1826, 1865-1899 3,405 records

Total: 10,744 records

Please note that the Mormons did not film the 1826 vital records.
However, the Sokolow Podlaski indices will include that year.

For more details about the Sokolow Podlaski/Siedlce Archives project,
check the Polish State Archives link on the JRI-Poland web site at
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl

JRI-Poland is an independent, non-profit tax exempt organization under
Section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service Code. JRI-Poland
is hosted by JewishGen.

Anne Fendrich
Sokolow Podlaski Town Leader
JRI-Poland Siedlce Archive Project


2 questions about symbols on manifests #general

Marian
 

In 1903 my maternal great-aunt, her husband and 3 children arrived at Ellis
Island. In looking over the passenger manifest I noticed the numbers "6501"
written directly to the left of her husband's name. Would anyone know the
significance of these numbers?

On the 1900 passenger manifest for my paternal great-uncle, the capital
letters "S" and what appears to be a "C" (i.e. "SC") are written directly
to the left of his name. Any ideas about this one?

All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Marian Levine
Woodstock, NY

researching:
AYVIN,YAVEN/YEVIN (changed to LEVINE) - Nemirov, Mikhalevka, Tulchin, Odessa
Brooklyn,NY
NICKELSBERG (and similar spellings) - Nemirov, Podolsk > NYC > Brooklyn,NY
GUTMAN (changed to GOODMAN) - Bobroisk, Minsk gub. > Brooklyn,NY
FREIDIN/FREIDEN - Nikopol, Ekaterinoslav > Brooklyn,NY and Argentina
GORODETZKY (changed to GORDON)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2 questions about symbols on manifests #general

Marian
 

In 1903 my maternal great-aunt, her husband and 3 children arrived at Ellis
Island. In looking over the passenger manifest I noticed the numbers "6501"
written directly to the left of her husband's name. Would anyone know the
significance of these numbers?

On the 1900 passenger manifest for my paternal great-uncle, the capital
letters "S" and what appears to be a "C" (i.e. "SC") are written directly
to the left of his name. Any ideas about this one?

All suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Marian Levine
Woodstock, NY

researching:
AYVIN,YAVEN/YEVIN (changed to LEVINE) - Nemirov, Mikhalevka, Tulchin, Odessa
Brooklyn,NY
NICKELSBERG (and similar spellings) - Nemirov, Podolsk > NYC > Brooklyn,NY
GUTMAN (changed to GOODMAN) - Bobroisk, Minsk gub. > Brooklyn,NY
FREIDIN/FREIDEN - Nikopol, Ekaterinoslav > Brooklyn,NY and Argentina
GORODETZKY (changed to GORDON)


Re: Genealogy and Your Descendants #general

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

With regards to the theme of helping our descendents to know something of
their family, in the upcoming Australian Census next week, the Australian
Bureau of Statistics is including on the census form a box which can be
ticked to have one's census data microfilmed and preserved in a time
capsule for a 100 years. The idea being that in 100 years time our
descendents will be able to get an idea of what our life is like today.

Given the problems I've had in finding out about my family over the past
100 years I for one will certainly be ticking this box for the benefit of
my future descendents.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Rabinowitz [mailto:annrab@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 8:05 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Genealogy and Your Descendants

Recently,I've been noticing that an increasing number of people, who have
contacted me regarding genealogy, have been focusing on trying to obtain
information on their families for the benefit of their descendants.
< SNIP >

So, the lesson in all this is to talk to your family, enroll them as
members of your genealogy research team, teach them to help you with bits
and pieces as they are able,and most of all,encourage them to learn about
their Jewish heritage through genealogy. It is not all dry records
retrieval by any means!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Genealogy and Your Descendants #general

Stephen Mednick <smednick@...>
 

With regards to the theme of helping our descendents to know something of
their family, in the upcoming Australian Census next week, the Australian
Bureau of Statistics is including on the census form a box which can be
ticked to have one's census data microfilmed and preserved in a time
capsule for a 100 years. The idea being that in 100 years time our
descendents will be able to get an idea of what our life is like today.

Given the problems I've had in finding out about my family over the past
100 years I for one will certainly be ticking this box for the benefit of
my future descendents.

Stephen Mednick
Sydney, Australia
smednick@css.au.com

Researching:
MEDNICK (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)
SACHS/SACKS (Kalius,UKR & London,ENG)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Rabinowitz [mailto:annrab@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2001 8:05 PM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Genealogy and Your Descendants

Recently,I've been noticing that an increasing number of people, who have
contacted me regarding genealogy, have been focusing on trying to obtain
information on their families for the benefit of their descendants.
< SNIP >

So, the lesson in all this is to talk to your family, enroll them as
members of your genealogy research team, teach them to help you with bits
and pieces as they are able,and most of all,encourage them to learn about
their Jewish heritage through genealogy. It is not all dry records
retrieval by any means!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: Family names #galicia

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

If we all had family names since Exodus or before, and there were 10 lost
tribes, that would leave 2 tribes. Add a few priests who would be Cohanim,
and you get surnames you could count on the fingers of one hand-not the
plethora you see today.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family names #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

If we all had family names since Exodus or before, and there were 10 lost
tribes, that would leave 2 tribes. Add a few priests who would be Cohanim,
and you get surnames you could count on the fingers of one hand-not the
plethora you see today.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Wilk - Ciechanow, Poland... #general

Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev <aronbenzev@...>
 

Firstly, thanx to the many people who responded about the AKT's and 3 who
responded about Wilk or Ciechanow.

I have a few questions. I have through the marriage record (>from London) of
my great grandfather, the names of his 2 brothers and father. I have
matched that up with the JRI records and now have 3 birthdates with AKT
records, and some of the details of my grandfather and some of his
siblings, though nowhere near complete.

This is what I have:
Izrajel Szimon Wilk b.876, akt.39
Abram Ajzyk Wilk b.1883, akt.67 - this is my great grandfather (m. Sarah
Goldstein in London in 1906)
Moszjek Josjek Wilk b.1888, akt.1

I know that their father's Hebrew name was Yisroel Tzvi HaKohen Wilk, and
that the whole family was/is Kohanim.

I however have no information of the birth/death/marriage records of their
parents. I also know through a Howard Petrook of Canada, that my great
grandfather was on the same boat to England as the Petrooks, because they
made the match, between his mother (Esther Petrook nee Wilks) and his
father.

If anybody could help me with anything through these records I would
appreciate it.

Note to the NG: Please respond to me directly at aronbenzev@bezeqint.net as
it would have little to do with the newsgroup.

All the best,
Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev,
Ra'anana, ISRAEL.
Researching: Sklaniewicz, Wilk


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wilk - Ciechanow, Poland... #general

Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev <aronbenzev@...>
 

Firstly, thanx to the many people who responded about the AKT's and 3 who
responded about Wilk or Ciechanow.

I have a few questions. I have through the marriage record (>from London) of
my great grandfather, the names of his 2 brothers and father. I have
matched that up with the JRI records and now have 3 birthdates with AKT
records, and some of the details of my grandfather and some of his
siblings, though nowhere near complete.

This is what I have:
Izrajel Szimon Wilk b.876, akt.39
Abram Ajzyk Wilk b.1883, akt.67 - this is my great grandfather (m. Sarah
Goldstein in London in 1906)
Moszjek Josjek Wilk b.1888, akt.1

I know that their father's Hebrew name was Yisroel Tzvi HaKohen Wilk, and
that the whole family was/is Kohanim.

I however have no information of the birth/death/marriage records of their
parents. I also know through a Howard Petrook of Canada, that my great
grandfather was on the same boat to England as the Petrooks, because they
made the match, between his mother (Esther Petrook nee Wilks) and his
father.

If anybody could help me with anything through these records I would
appreciate it.

Note to the NG: Please respond to me directly at aronbenzev@bezeqint.net as
it would have little to do with the newsgroup.

All the best,
Aron Y.B. Ben-Zev,
Ra'anana, ISRAEL.
Researching: Sklaniewicz, Wilk


Re: Burial societies #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Most generalities will have exceptions, so chances are that some would do
one thing and some another. However, I have a cousin who immigrated about
1900 and died only a couple years later. He is buried in a plot belonging
to a burial society of a town which isn't even near where he came from. How
he ended up there, I don't know, but it doesn't seem likely he had an 'old
country' connection to the town. Maybe neighbors in NY?

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Burial societies #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Most generalities will have exceptions, so chances are that some would do
one thing and some another. However, I have a cousin who immigrated about
1900 and died only a couple years later. He is buried in a plot belonging
to a burial society of a town which isn't even near where he came from. How
he ended up there, I don't know, but it doesn't seem likely he had an 'old
country' connection to the town. Maybe neighbors in NY?

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Re: Pre-1890 Immigrants #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

New York City Immigration lists are indexed up to 1836 (I believe). Then
there is a large gap which is picked up by the Ellis Island Database. The
passenger lists exist, but they are hard to search unless you have very
specific and accurate information (I haven't found most of my families in
spite of 'knowing' when the came-one >from the Baden Emigration List, others
from family history).
However, since your family lived in Boston, perhaps they immigrated through
Boston-or Philadelphia or some place else. Most other ports have indices.

Also, there are books-Germans to America and such which might help,
depending on the year and the origin of your families.

There is also an Early American SIG in Jewishgen which might interest you.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pre-1890 Immigrants #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

New York City Immigration lists are indexed up to 1836 (I believe). Then
there is a large gap which is picked up by the Ellis Island Database. The
passenger lists exist, but they are hard to search unless you have very
specific and accurate information (I haven't found most of my families in
spite of 'knowing' when the came-one >from the Baden Emigration List, others
from family history).
However, since your family lived in Boston, perhaps they immigrated through
Boston-or Philadelphia or some place else. Most other ports have indices.

Also, there are books-Germans to America and such which might help,
depending on the year and the origin of your families.

There is also an Early American SIG in Jewishgen which might interest you.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Re: Commitment for insanity #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

This is something that might vary >from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but a
friend of mine found the following in Buffalo, NY:

1. The census includes the people. The US federal census would include
institutionalized people in any jurisdiction-I cannot say but would guess
that state censuses would also.

2. The people definitely do have death certificates-in Buffalo they seem
to be separate >from the general population-but they are available for
genealogy. Also, medical records (at least some) are available.

As to annulment and burial, I would defer those questions, but it seems to
me that the only burial prohibition is for suicide.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Commitment for insanity #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

This is something that might vary >from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but a
friend of mine found the following in Buffalo, NY:

1. The census includes the people. The US federal census would include
institutionalized people in any jurisdiction-I cannot say but would guess
that state censuses would also.

2. The people definitely do have death certificates-in Buffalo they seem
to be separate >from the general population-but they are available for
genealogy. Also, medical records (at least some) are available.

As to annulment and burial, I would defer those questions, but it seems to
me that the only burial prohibition is for suicide.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY