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Re: Uma #ukraine

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

Could it be Uman?
Marilyn Feingold

Has anyone ever heard of Uma in the Ukraine?
Thank You,

Lisa Arnett
Finegold >from ?Rovno, Greenblatt Kishinev

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Uma #ukraine

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

Could it be Uman?
Marilyn Feingold

Has anyone ever heard of Uma in the Ukraine?
Thank You,

Lisa Arnett
Finegold >from ?Rovno, Greenblatt Kishinev

Re Uma in the Ukraine #ukraine

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

The inquiry re the location of Uma in the Ukraine is probably Uman, which is
where the late Rabbi Nachman of Breslov is buried, and where thousands of
people flock >from all over the world to honour his memory at Rosh Hashanah.
Rabbi Nachman was the great grandson of the Baal Shem Tov. Uman is in
the Cherkasy Oblast in Central Ukraine.


Lorna Kay
Chairman
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re Uma in the Ukraine #ukraine

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

The inquiry re the location of Uma in the Ukraine is probably Uman, which is
where the late Rabbi Nachman of Breslov is buried, and where thousands of
people flock >from all over the world to honour his memory at Rosh Hashanah.
Rabbi Nachman was the great grandson of the Baal Shem Tov. Uman is in
the Cherkasy Oblast in Central Ukraine.


Lorna Kay
Chairman
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Re: Czechoslovakia did not exist before 1918 #austria-czech

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/30/2006 1:58:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jamgai@... writes:

<< I . . . come with what might have been an amazing family discovery. I was
under the impression that my great, great grandfather SAMUEL NEUWIRTH
was austrian. he's listed as that in the US census. another of his great
great
grandsons informs me he was always taught that "grandpa sam" was czech...
according to my research, SAMUEL NEUWIRTH was born in
1868 in austria >>

==Everyone is right on this one. When your ggf was born, Czechoslovakia did
not exist. Like Galicia and Hungary it was part of the Austrian empire. Your
ggf was probably born in a Czech speaking area (but perhaps a Slovak area)
of Austria, but there was no country named Czechoslovakia before 1918, when you
grandfather was already 50 years old.

==Welcome to our List. Here's a first useful lesson in genealogy--or
anywhere on the Web: the subject line is meant to be used by you to tell others
what is special or important about your message. Many of us get 100 messages a
day. We are forced to delete every message that isn't obviously relevant. My
experience with subject lines like "Hello" (especially all upper-case) is that
it's someone luring me to view dirty movies, buy sham drugs or invest in
penny stocks that will suddenly go up in price tomorrow. I usually do the same
thing to all unidentifiable subject lines--I delete them. And so do most of
the busy, well-informed genners.

==If you'd written "Grandfather, born 1968, Austrian or Czech?" you might
have had 20 people read the message and a dozen answer it.

==And here's a clue for the name. Surprisingly, it's not in the Dictionary
of German Jewish Surnames. Wirt is German for proprietor, landowner or
innkeeper. Neu means new. This could have been the source of the family name. I
have a hunch, though, that they took the name >from a town with a similar name.
Go to jewishgen.org's Shtetl Seeker. Check out, with the soundex option, a
place named Neuwirth, in Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, or Poland. Look up
the name on jewishgen's family finder. And post again, on austriaczech and
on jewishgen a specific query. And this time, in the subject line, put

<< Samuel NEUWIRTH, born "Austria" 1868 >>

Michael Bernet, New York

Equivalent Value of Viennese Reichs Mark #austria-czech

Joyce Eastman
 

Does anyone know what the equivalent of the Viennese Reichs Mark would have
been during the 1938-1942 era? I have documentation regarding seized
property of family members and would like to be able to calculate what the
equivalent value would have been in US dollars.

Please respond privately.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

Re: SPITZER grave #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Micheline GUTMANN wrote: <I have been absent >from this mailing list since many
years. For the first day I come back, I find the mention of a possible
cousin's ancestor.... Our cousin, who died at 50 y.o. a few years ago, was
Philippe SPITZER. He began to be interested in his genealogy. His ggrandfather
was Adolph SPITZER who married Netti POPPER.>

Micheline; welcome back! I presume you mean this grave - but you gave no dates:

ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 8 41 12
Spitzer Adolf age 64 buried 09.12.1886
Spitzer Netti age 83 buried 17.01.1915
Spitzer David age 61 died 26.06.1938

The grave Traude mentoned was a different one in the Zentralfriedhof
Group 6, Row 1.

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en {English}
http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=de {German}

You will find dozens of Adolf SPITZER and many POPPER too - both family names
occur in my family!

Celia Male [U.K.]

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Czechoslovakia did not exist before 1918 #austria-czech

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/30/2006 1:58:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jamgai@... writes:

<< I . . . come with what might have been an amazing family discovery. I was
under the impression that my great, great grandfather SAMUEL NEUWIRTH
was austrian. he's listed as that in the US census. another of his great
great
grandsons informs me he was always taught that "grandpa sam" was czech...
according to my research, SAMUEL NEUWIRTH was born in
1868 in austria >>

==Everyone is right on this one. When your ggf was born, Czechoslovakia did
not exist. Like Galicia and Hungary it was part of the Austrian empire. Your
ggf was probably born in a Czech speaking area (but perhaps a Slovak area)
of Austria, but there was no country named Czechoslovakia before 1918, when you
grandfather was already 50 years old.

==Welcome to our List. Here's a first useful lesson in genealogy--or
anywhere on the Web: the subject line is meant to be used by you to tell others
what is special or important about your message. Many of us get 100 messages a
day. We are forced to delete every message that isn't obviously relevant. My
experience with subject lines like "Hello" (especially all upper-case) is that
it's someone luring me to view dirty movies, buy sham drugs or invest in
penny stocks that will suddenly go up in price tomorrow. I usually do the same
thing to all unidentifiable subject lines--I delete them. And so do most of
the busy, well-informed genners.

==If you'd written "Grandfather, born 1968, Austrian or Czech?" you might
have had 20 people read the message and a dozen answer it.

==And here's a clue for the name. Surprisingly, it's not in the Dictionary
of German Jewish Surnames. Wirt is German for proprietor, landowner or
innkeeper. Neu means new. This could have been the source of the family name. I
have a hunch, though, that they took the name >from a town with a similar name.
Go to jewishgen.org's Shtetl Seeker. Check out, with the soundex option, a
place named Neuwirth, in Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, or Poland. Look up
the name on jewishgen's family finder. And post again, on austriaczech and
on jewishgen a specific query. And this time, in the subject line, put

<< Samuel NEUWIRTH, born "Austria" 1868 >>

Michael Bernet, New York

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Equivalent Value of Viennese Reichs Mark #austria-czech

Joyce Eastman
 

Does anyone know what the equivalent of the Viennese Reichs Mark would have
been during the 1938-1942 era? I have documentation regarding seized
property of family members and would like to be able to calculate what the
equivalent value would have been in US dollars.

Please respond privately.

Joyce Eastman
Orange City, FL USA

Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: SPITZER grave #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Micheline GUTMANN wrote: <I have been absent >from this mailing list since many
years. For the first day I come back, I find the mention of a possible
cousin's ancestor.... Our cousin, who died at 50 y.o. a few years ago, was
Philippe SPITZER. He began to be interested in his genealogy. His ggrandfather
was Adolph SPITZER who married Netti POPPER.>

Micheline; welcome back! I presume you mean this grave - but you gave no dates:

ZENTRALFRIEDHOF I. TOR 8 41 12
Spitzer Adolf age 64 buried 09.12.1886
Spitzer Netti age 83 buried 17.01.1915
Spitzer David age 61 died 26.06.1938

The grave Traude mentoned was a different one in the Zentralfriedhof
Group 6, Row 1.

http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en {English}
http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=de {German}

You will find dozens of Adolf SPITZER and many POPPER too - both family names
occur in my family!

Celia Male [U.K.]

Posting Search Names at End of Message #general

Rachelle Berliner <rlberliner@...>
 

This is to express my thanks to all who post their search names at the end
of their specific posts. Many times I have to scan the posts but have been
able to catch the surname search list of those that connect with me or I can
help with.

I normally post only the LEAF-BERLINER search list or the Rachel & Joseph
JACOBS one focusing on the particularly related post. If the webmaster can
allow both this time, it will call attention to the importance of doing
this.

Please - to those of us who forget to do this - let 5767 be the beginning of
adding a search list and a signature along with location. It is most
helpful!

-----
Searching:
LIEBERMAN/LOW(Samson,)patronymic-LEAF and AIN(Alter Neome/Nechamah)/ >from
Szvistrich/Swislowitz/Swisloch, Bialystok, Russia to NY to Savannah),
Joseph Osher LEV/LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LOW(V) or LIEBERMAN (Odessa Region)
BERLINER/SEIDLER/SIDLER/ZAIDLER/STEIN (Goworowo, Ostrolenka, Warsaw,
Lodz to NY to Savannah)

Searching Joseph & Rachel JACOBS Family Connections:
EICHLER/AYKLER/ISLER/GOLDSTEIN/JACOBS/HARRIS/ZAGON >from Ciechanow,
Przasnysz, Posen/Poznan,/Poland/Russia to London, England to Baltimore, MD
to Atlanta, GA. Families of:: Max HELLMAN, Simon LEVY, Rev Hyman COHEN, Sam
& Raymond,FINE, Aaron KAHANOW, Sam LEAF
-----

L'Shanah Tovah!

Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Surname lists at the end of a message are routinely
posted; they should be a maximum of *six lines* long. Longer lists
such as Rachelle's can also be posted as a once-in-a-while update, as
part of the regular message body.

One more tip: It's very helpful to the readers if you put the surnames
only in all capital letters, as Rachelle has done in her list. The surnames
pop out easily that way. (Given names and place names should remain in
normal case; this helps retain the contrast for the surnames.)

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Posting Search Names at End of Message #general

Rachelle Berliner <rlberliner@...>
 

This is to express my thanks to all who post their search names at the end
of their specific posts. Many times I have to scan the posts but have been
able to catch the surname search list of those that connect with me or I can
help with.

I normally post only the LEAF-BERLINER search list or the Rachel & Joseph
JACOBS one focusing on the particularly related post. If the webmaster can
allow both this time, it will call attention to the importance of doing
this.

Please - to those of us who forget to do this - let 5767 be the beginning of
adding a search list and a signature along with location. It is most
helpful!

-----
Searching:
LIEBERMAN/LOW(Samson,)patronymic-LEAF and AIN(Alter Neome/Nechamah)/ >from
Szvistrich/Swislowitz/Swisloch, Bialystok, Russia to NY to Savannah),
Joseph Osher LEV/LEAF/LIFSCHITZ/LOW(V) or LIEBERMAN (Odessa Region)
BERLINER/SEIDLER/SIDLER/ZAIDLER/STEIN (Goworowo, Ostrolenka, Warsaw,
Lodz to NY to Savannah)

Searching Joseph & Rachel JACOBS Family Connections:
EICHLER/AYKLER/ISLER/GOLDSTEIN/JACOBS/HARRIS/ZAGON >from Ciechanow,
Przasnysz, Posen/Poznan,/Poland/Russia to London, England to Baltimore, MD
to Atlanta, GA. Families of:: Max HELLMAN, Simon LEVY, Rev Hyman COHEN, Sam
& Raymond,FINE, Aaron KAHANOW, Sam LEAF
-----

L'Shanah Tovah!

Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Surname lists at the end of a message are routinely
posted; they should be a maximum of *six lines* long. Longer lists
such as Rachelle's can also be posted as a once-in-a-while update, as
part of the regular message body.

One more tip: It's very helpful to the readers if you put the surnames
only in all capital letters, as Rachelle has done in her list. The surnames
pop out easily that way. (Given names and place names should remain in
normal case; this helps retain the contrast for the surnames.)

Napoleon and Lithuania #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Recently, there have been a number of interesting postings and also an issue
of "Roots-Key" (newsletter of the JGSLA) devoted to Napoleon and Jews in
Lithuania.

In doing continuing research on Napoleon which was, at first, prompted by
some interesting notations in the 1811-1817 Revision Lists for Kupiskis,
Lithuania, I have found some info which has not previously been reported
here.

The "Lituanus, Lithuanian Quarterly Journal of Arts and Sciences", Volume
30, No. 1 - Spring, 1984, has an article entitled "Napoleon's Lithuanian
Forces" by Henry L. Gaidis which is quite fascinating in its scope.

The article can be found on-line at:
http://www.lituanus.org/1984_1/84_1_01.htm

Some points of interest in the article were:

1. Evidently, there were a number of Lithuanians/Poles who fled to France
and then were recruited there into the Napoleonic Grand Armee and fought in
a number of Napoleon's campaigns. No information was given on whether any
of these were Jews.

2. Approximately one third of the Lithuanian community was killed during
the Napoleonic Campaigns as expressed by the decline in population between
the Revision Lists of 1811-1817.

3. Military recruitment of Lithuanians for Napoleon's Grand Armee was to
undertaken August 5-30, 1812, for the following regiments at the noted depot
towns:

18th Infantry Regiment, Vilnius
19th Infantry Regiment, Raseiniai
20th Infantry Regiment, Slonim
21st Infantry Regiment Bialystok
17th Cavalry Regiment, Minsk
18th Cavalry Regiment, Kupiskis
18th Cavalry Regiment, Panevezys
18th Cavalry Regiment, Nowogrodek
18th Cavalry Regiment, Pinsk
18th Mounted Rifles, Vilnius

It is Gaidis' feeling that of the 20,000 Lithuanians who were recruited
during this time, only 8,000 survived the campaign. There is no indication
as to how many Jews, if any, were recruited.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Napoleon and Lithuania #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Recently, there have been a number of interesting postings and also an issue
of "Roots-Key" (newsletter of the JGSLA) devoted to Napoleon and Jews in
Lithuania.

In doing continuing research on Napoleon which was, at first, prompted by
some interesting notations in the 1811-1817 Revision Lists for Kupiskis,
Lithuania, I have found some info which has not previously been reported
here.

The "Lituanus, Lithuanian Quarterly Journal of Arts and Sciences", Volume
30, No. 1 - Spring, 1984, has an article entitled "Napoleon's Lithuanian
Forces" by Henry L. Gaidis which is quite fascinating in its scope.

The article can be found on-line at:
http://www.lituanus.org/1984_1/84_1_01.htm

Some points of interest in the article were:

1. Evidently, there were a number of Lithuanians/Poles who fled to France
and then were recruited there into the Napoleonic Grand Armee and fought in
a number of Napoleon's campaigns. No information was given on whether any
of these were Jews.

2. Approximately one third of the Lithuanian community was killed during
the Napoleonic Campaigns as expressed by the decline in population between
the Revision Lists of 1811-1817.

3. Military recruitment of Lithuanians for Napoleon's Grand Armee was to
undertaken August 5-30, 1812, for the following regiments at the noted depot
towns:

18th Infantry Regiment, Vilnius
19th Infantry Regiment, Raseiniai
20th Infantry Regiment, Slonim
21st Infantry Regiment Bialystok
17th Cavalry Regiment, Minsk
18th Cavalry Regiment, Kupiskis
18th Cavalry Regiment, Panevezys
18th Cavalry Regiment, Nowogrodek
18th Cavalry Regiment, Pinsk
18th Mounted Rifles, Vilnius

It is Gaidis' feeling that of the 20,000 Lithuanians who were recruited
during this time, only 8,000 survived the campaign. There is no indication
as to how many Jews, if any, were recruited.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@...

Re: Richmond Hill, Queens, NY #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Recently I posted an inquiry concerning Richmond Hill. The response from
genners has been stupendous! I wish to thank those posters that I may not
have thanked with a direct reply.

Burt Hecht

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: RE: Richmond Hill, Queens, NY #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

Recently I posted an inquiry concerning Richmond Hill. The response from
genners has been stupendous! I wish to thank those posters that I may not
have thanked with a direct reply.

Burt Hecht

Re: Jews with same name in late 18C London #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

I would like to know if there is anywhere to check for people in late
18C London, so that I can find (or not) discrepancy information.
Where I've already looked is mostly stuff from
http://www.jewishgen.org/ and
http://www.jeffreymaynard.com/ and
http://www.british-jewry.org.uk/New%20Member%20Area/dbhome2.htm.

Cecilia Nyleve

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews with same name in late 18C London #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

I would like to know if there is anywhere to check for people in late
18C London, so that I can find (or not) discrepancy information.
Where I've already looked is mostly stuff from
http://www.jewishgen.org/ and
http://www.jeffreymaynard.com/ and
http://www.british-jewry.org.uk/New%20Member%20Area/dbhome2.htm.

Cecilia Nyleve

Searching Isaac GUTMAN Family in Mexico #latinamerica

Marilynn & Dick
 

Hello I am trying to locate a missing cousin who lived in Mexico or Still
does. If any of the members of the Latin Sig, can help locaate him or know
him it would be great. I have just located in France several family members
who were unaware of the family for 65 years.

Info on Isaac Gutman he lived on Pachuca, Colonia Hipodromo Mexico DF. His
son Nathan was Bar Mitzva Feb 22, 1975 at Temple Rabt Yehuda Halevt Montery
359.

Isaac wife is named Rebecca.

Again any help would be great.

My email birdmom37@...

Richard & Marilynn Wenig (Bloch)
Annapolis Maryland USA

email if you need mailing address and or phone number I do not speak
Spanish.

Searching BLOCH, Poland Belarus, LEWIN Poland Belarus, GUTMAN Poland Mexico.

Latin America #LatinAmerica Searching Isaac GUTMAN Family in Mexico #latinamerica

Marilynn & Dick
 

Hello I am trying to locate a missing cousin who lived in Mexico or Still
does. If any of the members of the Latin Sig, can help locaate him or know
him it would be great. I have just located in France several family members
who were unaware of the family for 65 years.

Info on Isaac Gutman he lived on Pachuca, Colonia Hipodromo Mexico DF. His
son Nathan was Bar Mitzva Feb 22, 1975 at Temple Rabt Yehuda Halevt Montery
359.

Isaac wife is named Rebecca.

Again any help would be great.

My email birdmom37@...

Richard & Marilynn Wenig (Bloch)
Annapolis Maryland USA

email if you need mailing address and or phone number I do not speak
Spanish.

Searching BLOCH, Poland Belarus, LEWIN Poland Belarus, GUTMAN Poland Mexico.