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Re: Q.Ellis Island DB -1911 SS Furnessia #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners, I am having a problem with the EIDB accessing the
Original Manifest for the SS Furnessia arriving in NY on July 24th 1911.
It brings up the Campania each time I try. If anyone has had this problem
and knows how to get around it I'd appreciate the help. Alternatively who
should I contact to get the manifest I want.

Reply privately to "ajstern48@hotmail.com".

Best Regards, Tony Stern
I have a similar problem concerning the Willehad out of Hamburg or Bremen in
1895 to Ellis Island: calling up the original manifest results in a nice,
clear view of ship called the Trinidad. I ended up a the NY Public Library
and taking notes >from the microfilm. I also sent a note about the error to
the Ellis Island contact address but have heard nothing and have seen no
change in the past couple of months.

Maria Torres
elena@pipeline.com
Maltinsky, Rubinstein, Zellat, Notis (Latvia, NY, GA, PA)
Phillips (Dadacz/Dudacz/Isidore/Eisendor), Pschedesky (Poland, UK, NY)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Q.Ellis Island DB -1911 SS Furnessia #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners, I am having a problem with the EIDB accessing the
Original Manifest for the SS Furnessia arriving in NY on July 24th 1911.
It brings up the Campania each time I try. If anyone has had this problem
and knows how to get around it I'd appreciate the help. Alternatively who
should I contact to get the manifest I want.

Reply privately to "ajstern48@hotmail.com".

Best Regards, Tony Stern
I have a similar problem concerning the Willehad out of Hamburg or Bremen in
1895 to Ellis Island: calling up the original manifest results in a nice,
clear view of ship called the Trinidad. I ended up a the NY Public Library
and taking notes >from the microfilm. I also sent a note about the error to
the Ellis Island contact address but have heard nothing and have seen no
change in the past couple of months.

Maria Torres
elena@pipeline.com
Maltinsky, Rubinstein, Zellat, Notis (Latvia, NY, GA, PA)
Phillips (Dadacz/Dudacz/Isidore/Eisendor), Pschedesky (Poland, UK, NY)


On-Line Passenger Indexes #general

m leonards <m_leonards@...>
 

Perhaps it might be useful to review the on-line availability of passenger
manifests, especially for the period 1850-1950. I'm not thinking of the
individual manifests at sites like the Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild
(http://istg.rootsweb.com/), or Olive Tree Genealogy
(http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/index.shtml). Instead, I'm interested
in the projects to index all the available manifests for a given port of
departure or arrival.

This is the list of sites I've located so far. Is anyone aware of any
others?

==

Ports of Departure:

Hamburg: Manifests indexed for the period 1890-1898. Plans are to complete
indexing, first through 1914; and then >from 1850-1934. Fee-based.

http://www.hamburg.de/fhh/behoerden/staatsarchiv/link_to_your_roots/english/index.htm

Bremen: Manifests indexed for the period 1920-1926 (partial). Plans are to
complete indexing through 1939. Free. (Pre-WWI manifests were destroyed
during the that war.)
http://db.genealogy.net/maus/gate/shiplists.cgi?lang=en

Copenhagen: Manifests indexed for the period 1869-1908. Archives has
records through 1940, but it's unclear whether all will be indexed on-line.
Free.
http://www.emiarch.dk/search.php3?l=en

Finland: (I'm not sure of the port(s).) Manifests indexed for the years
1892-1896, 1899-1914, 1920-1939, 1949-1960. Free.
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/migration/ml/index_e.html

==

Ports of Arrival:

New York City: Obviously, the much-discussed Ellis Island Data Base. Free,
but registration required.
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org
or
http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html

Galveston, Texas: Manifests indexed for the period 1846-1948. Free, but
registration required.
http://www.tsm-elissa.org/immigration-login.htm

Canada: Manifests indexed for all ports for the period 1925-1935. Free.
http://www.archives.ca/02/02011802_e.html

New South Wales, Australia: Manifests for "assisted immigrants" indexed for
the period 1839-1896. Free.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/immigration/introduction.htm

Victoria, Australia: Manifests for "unassisted" immigrants indexed for the
period 1852-1889. Free.
http://www.vic.gov.au/prov/UNASSISTED1.asp

==

Again, if anyone is aware of any other ports whose immigration records have
been made available on-line, please advise the list.

In addition, perhaps we can compile a list of the status of passenger
manifests. For example, the Public Record Office in Kew apparently has all
trans-oceanic lists (incoming and outgoing) >from all UK ports, but they are
unindexed. The CEMLA project is indexing the Buenos Aires immigrant lists,
but does not intend to make them available on-line. The Holland-America
ticket sales records for 1900-1940 are available on microfiche in several
libraries and >from the Family History Library.

The pre-WWI Antwerp lists were destroyed; do the post-WWI lists exist? Are
there any surviving manifests for Cherbourg and Libau? What about the
Italian and other Mediterranean ports? For what years are South African
passenger manifests available, and in what form?

For the United States, the incoming passenger manifests for Philadelphia,
Baltimore and New Orleans have been indexed, and are available on microfilm
at certain National Archives and libraries, and through the Family History
Library. The Boston manifests are also indexed, except for the period
1892-1902. The New York City manifests remain unindexed for the period
1848-1891. The Canadian crossings (St. Albans Lists) are also indexed for
1895-1954, and available on microfilm. I'm not sure about West Coast ports.
And, so far as I know, there are absolutely no outgoing passenger lists
for any US port.

==

Just a thought.
Monica Leonards
Glenside, PA

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen On-Line Passenger Indexes #general

m leonards <m_leonards@...>
 

Perhaps it might be useful to review the on-line availability of passenger
manifests, especially for the period 1850-1950. I'm not thinking of the
individual manifests at sites like the Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild
(http://istg.rootsweb.com/), or Olive Tree Genealogy
(http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/index.shtml). Instead, I'm interested
in the projects to index all the available manifests for a given port of
departure or arrival.

This is the list of sites I've located so far. Is anyone aware of any
others?

==

Ports of Departure:

Hamburg: Manifests indexed for the period 1890-1898. Plans are to complete
indexing, first through 1914; and then >from 1850-1934. Fee-based.

http://www.hamburg.de/fhh/behoerden/staatsarchiv/link_to_your_roots/english/index.htm

Bremen: Manifests indexed for the period 1920-1926 (partial). Plans are to
complete indexing through 1939. Free. (Pre-WWI manifests were destroyed
during the that war.)
http://db.genealogy.net/maus/gate/shiplists.cgi?lang=en

Copenhagen: Manifests indexed for the period 1869-1908. Archives has
records through 1940, but it's unclear whether all will be indexed on-line.
Free.
http://www.emiarch.dk/search.php3?l=en

Finland: (I'm not sure of the port(s).) Manifests indexed for the years
1892-1896, 1899-1914, 1920-1939, 1949-1960. Free.
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/migration/ml/index_e.html

==

Ports of Arrival:

New York City: Obviously, the much-discussed Ellis Island Data Base. Free,
but registration required.
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org
or
http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html

Galveston, Texas: Manifests indexed for the period 1846-1948. Free, but
registration required.
http://www.tsm-elissa.org/immigration-login.htm

Canada: Manifests indexed for all ports for the period 1925-1935. Free.
http://www.archives.ca/02/02011802_e.html

New South Wales, Australia: Manifests for "assisted immigrants" indexed for
the period 1839-1896. Free.
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/publications/immigration/introduction.htm

Victoria, Australia: Manifests for "unassisted" immigrants indexed for the
period 1852-1889. Free.
http://www.vic.gov.au/prov/UNASSISTED1.asp

==

Again, if anyone is aware of any other ports whose immigration records have
been made available on-line, please advise the list.

In addition, perhaps we can compile a list of the status of passenger
manifests. For example, the Public Record Office in Kew apparently has all
trans-oceanic lists (incoming and outgoing) >from all UK ports, but they are
unindexed. The CEMLA project is indexing the Buenos Aires immigrant lists,
but does not intend to make them available on-line. The Holland-America
ticket sales records for 1900-1940 are available on microfiche in several
libraries and >from the Family History Library.

The pre-WWI Antwerp lists were destroyed; do the post-WWI lists exist? Are
there any surviving manifests for Cherbourg and Libau? What about the
Italian and other Mediterranean ports? For what years are South African
passenger manifests available, and in what form?

For the United States, the incoming passenger manifests for Philadelphia,
Baltimore and New Orleans have been indexed, and are available on microfilm
at certain National Archives and libraries, and through the Family History
Library. The Boston manifests are also indexed, except for the period
1892-1902. The New York City manifests remain unindexed for the period
1848-1891. The Canadian crossings (St. Albans Lists) are also indexed for
1895-1954, and available on microfilm. I'm not sure about West Coast ports.
And, so far as I know, there are absolutely no outgoing passenger lists
for any US port.

==

Just a thought.
Monica Leonards
Glenside, PA

MODERATOR NOTE: This post is a good start toward an InfoFile on indexes to
passenger lists. If you would like to incorporate any additional
information you receive and make this information available as an InfoFile,
please e-mail <support@jewishgen.org> for further instructions.

Note that the URL for the Hamburg lists given above will not work with all
browsers. See recent posts for additonal information.


Re: Uploading Gedcom Files #general

rokoco1@...
 

Dear Genners:

Can someone tell me what settings we should use in Family Tree Maker when we
export a gedcom file for upload.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give us.

A Very Happy New Year,

Bobbi & Jerry Cohen
San Diego

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Uploading Gedcom Files #general

rokoco1@...
 

Dear Genners:

Can someone tell me what settings we should use in Family Tree Maker when we
export a gedcom file for upload.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give us.

A Very Happy New Year,

Bobbi & Jerry Cohen
San Diego

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: Sowalki #poland

Willie46@...
 

Dear Henry:

The AGAD project is one of many Polish State Archives (PSA)
projects that have commenced to index the vital records of the
branch archives of the PSA. The AGAD Archives in Warsaw
houses vital records >from the eastern portion of the former
Austrian province of Galicia. This territory is now in Ukraine
but was part of Poland between the Wars, 1921-1939.

There is a separate project to index the holdings (not previously
microfilmed by the LDS Church) of the Suwalki branch of the
PSA. For more information on this project and the name of the
Archive coordinator please see the Suwalki Archive webpage at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psasuwalki.htm>.

There are also indices for towns in Suwalki Gubernia (including
the town of Suwalki) that were prepared >from the LDS Microfilms.

For more information on the availability of index entries for towns
in Suwalki Gubernia, you should search the Contents of the
Database page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jripldat.htm>.
This page is organized alphabetically by town and the Gubernia
of the town is identified in the second column. Look for "SU" in the
second column which denotes that town is in Suwalki Gubernia.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

Are there any AGAD records for Sowalki area? (Also does Marijyampol -
Lithuania have any records?)
If so where do I find them?
I would be grateful if you could put me in the right direction


Drzewica #poland

Michel Heyman <mheyman@...>
 

It has been sometime since I did any research in Poland. Reocrds for
Drzewica are not apparently available through JRI-PSA and/or through LDS.
However, records for Drewica are available at the PSA. I have approximately
five surnames to research at the PSA branch in Radom. What are the latest
means for requesting these records on the Web if any? Must we still write
directly to the PSA or can this be done through "Sezam". If the research
can be done through "Sezam" how do you request a blanket search by surname?
Thank you for any input.


Re: AGAD search #poland

Willie46@...
 

Can someone please tell me how I get >from the JRI-AGAD index to the film
number? I found ancestors listed in the AGAD index. They are listed in
the
index for the town of Nadworna, Galicia, Ukraine, Fond 300 in AGAD Archive.
Unlike Poland indexes, no film numbers are given. What do I do next?
Dear Aliza:

JRI-Poland has two major sources for its records. The first is
LDS films, where the index entry and the search results
summary at the bottom of your search results page show the
Film Number where you can find those records.

The second source is directly >from the branch office of the
Polish State Archives. These are for records that have not been
filmed by the LDS. All AGAD indices are sourced directly >from
the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives as the AGAD
records were never filmed by the LDS. Please see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm> for more
explanation of the Polish State Archives Projects.

All the Nadworna records that show an index entry can be
ordered >from AGAD for $11 each through the JRI-Poland
processing system. After searching, you will get a page with
your search results. Copy all the information contained in the
index entries that are of interest to you. Then scroll to the bottom
of the page, where you will see a box with two columns --
"Datafile" and "(LDS Films / contact information)". In the left
column you will see Nadworna births or deaths. Click the
hyperlink "Click here for more information" on the right. Read
the instruction in the web pages that follow and then click
"ORDER FORM."

Now fill out the order form with the information requested,
including the index information for those records you wish to
order. When complete, click "Create order form." Print out form,
write a check and send it to the address on top of the form.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
write.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator


Re: Janow, Poland (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi Daniel and others,
=20
I wonder what your take is on this: For decades I was under the impressio=
n
that my grandparents (maternal) were >from Yanow in what is now Poland. Th=
en
about 3 years ago, while living in the Detroit area where there is a larg=
e
Polish population, I was told that there are/were numerous cities/towns n=
amed
Yanow, and based on our discussion of the geography and that one of my
relatives was >from Rymanow, it was likely that they were >from Yanow Lubel=
ski.
Since that discussion I have been unable to find any further information.=
Do
you have any knowledge of Yanow vs. Yanow Lubelski?

Yes, I do have a lot of information on this city. First, note that "Yanow"
is actually "Janow." Next, note the LDS films listings for "Janow":

Janow KA B 1863-1882 1,646,267 =A0
Janow KA BMD 1880/1888 1,646,268 =A0
Janow Lubelski LU BMD 1883-1887 1,808,843 =A0
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1826-1839 807,766 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1840-1843 807,767 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1844-1865 807,768 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1866-1869 937,498 LA
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1855/1877 1,496,625 =A0

These listings suggest that there are Jewish 3 Janows. (In fact, there are
many other Janows--but not Jewish Janows!)

Next, note the results for "Janow" at JewishGen's FamilyFinder:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

You will find these:

Janow Lubelski Poland
Janow Podlaski Poland
Janow Sokolski Poland
Janow Poland

There are, then, 3 or 4 different "Janows." Just plain "Janow," however,
refers to the Janow that is near Czestochowa, Zarki, Mstow, Lelow, and
Przyrow, here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0828.pol-map2.jpg

And it was this Janow which I was referring to in my earlier message.

A listing of surnames in the PSA records for this Janow may be found here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1107.czesto.html

Also, you should be able to locate the other Janows here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA
and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Sowalki #poland

Willie46@...
 

Dear Henry:

The AGAD project is one of many Polish State Archives (PSA)
projects that have commenced to index the vital records of the
branch archives of the PSA. The AGAD Archives in Warsaw
houses vital records >from the eastern portion of the former
Austrian province of Galicia. This territory is now in Ukraine
but was part of Poland between the Wars, 1921-1939.

There is a separate project to index the holdings (not previously
microfilmed by the LDS Church) of the Suwalki branch of the
PSA. For more information on this project and the name of the
Archive coordinator please see the Suwalki Archive webpage at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psasuwalki.htm>.

There are also indices for towns in Suwalki Gubernia (including
the town of Suwalki) that were prepared >from the LDS Microfilms.

For more information on the availability of index entries for towns
in Suwalki Gubernia, you should search the Contents of the
Database page at <http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jripldat.htm>.
This page is organized alphabetically by town and the Gubernia
of the town is identified in the second column. Look for "SU" in the
second column which denotes that town is in Suwalki Gubernia.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator

Are there any AGAD records for Sowalki area? (Also does Marijyampol -
Lithuania have any records?)
If so where do I find them?
I would be grateful if you could put me in the right direction


JRI Poland #Poland Drzewica #poland

Michel Heyman <mheyman@...>
 

It has been sometime since I did any research in Poland. Reocrds for
Drzewica are not apparently available through JRI-PSA and/or through LDS.
However, records for Drewica are available at the PSA. I have approximately
five surnames to research at the PSA branch in Radom. What are the latest
means for requesting these records on the Web if any? Must we still write
directly to the PSA or can this be done through "Sezam". If the research
can be done through "Sezam" how do you request a blanket search by surname?
Thank you for any input.


JRI Poland #Poland Re: AGAD search #poland

Willie46@...
 

Can someone please tell me how I get >from the JRI-AGAD index to the film
number? I found ancestors listed in the AGAD index. They are listed in
the
index for the town of Nadworna, Galicia, Ukraine, Fond 300 in AGAD Archive.
Unlike Poland indexes, no film numbers are given. What do I do next?
Dear Aliza:

JRI-Poland has two major sources for its records. The first is
LDS films, where the index entry and the search results
summary at the bottom of your search results page show the
Film Number where you can find those records.

The second source is directly >from the branch office of the
Polish State Archives. These are for records that have not been
filmed by the LDS. All AGAD indices are sourced directly >from
the AGAD branch of the Polish State Archives as the AGAD
records were never filmed by the LDS. Please see
<http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm> for more
explanation of the Polish State Archives Projects.

All the Nadworna records that show an index entry can be
ordered >from AGAD for $11 each through the JRI-Poland
processing system. After searching, you will get a page with
your search results. Copy all the information contained in the
index entries that are of interest to you. Then scroll to the bottom
of the page, where you will see a box with two columns --
"Datafile" and "(LDS Films / contact information)". In the left
column you will see Nadworna births or deaths. Click the
hyperlink "Click here for more information" on the right. Read
the instruction in the web pages that follow and then click
"ORDER FORM."

Now fill out the order form with the information requested,
including the index information for those records you wish to
order. When complete, click "Create order form." Print out form,
write a check and send it to the address on top of the form.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to
write.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Janow, Poland (near Czestochowa) #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi Daniel and others,
=20
I wonder what your take is on this: For decades I was under the impressio=
n
that my grandparents (maternal) were >from Yanow in what is now Poland. Th=
en
about 3 years ago, while living in the Detroit area where there is a larg=
e
Polish population, I was told that there are/were numerous cities/towns n=
amed
Yanow, and based on our discussion of the geography and that one of my
relatives was >from Rymanow, it was likely that they were >from Yanow Lubel=
ski.
Since that discussion I have been unable to find any further information.=
Do
you have any knowledge of Yanow vs. Yanow Lubelski?

Yes, I do have a lot of information on this city. First, note that "Yanow"
is actually "Janow." Next, note the LDS films listings for "Janow":

Janow KA B 1863-1882 1,646,267 =A0
Janow KA BMD 1880/1888 1,646,268 =A0
Janow Lubelski LU BMD 1883-1887 1,808,843 =A0
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1826-1839 807,766 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1840-1843 807,767 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1844-1865 807,768 DO
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1866-1869 937,498 LA
Janow Podlaski LU BMD 1855/1877 1,496,625 =A0

These listings suggest that there are Jewish 3 Janows. (In fact, there are
many other Janows--but not Jewish Janows!)

Next, note the results for "Janow" at JewishGen's FamilyFinder:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

You will find these:

Janow Lubelski Poland
Janow Podlaski Poland
Janow Sokolski Poland
Janow Poland

There are, then, 3 or 4 different "Janows." Just plain "Janow," however,
refers to the Janow that is near Czestochowa, Zarki, Mstow, Lelow, and
Przyrow, here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/0828.pol-map2.jpg

And it was this Janow which I was referring to in my earlier message.

A listing of surnames in the PSA records for this Janow may be found here:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/1107.czesto.html

Also, you should be able to locate the other Janows here:

http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/

Dan

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@mail.wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: Czestochowa-Przyrow-Mstow-Janow-Plawno-Radomsko-Piotrkow-Zgierz)
TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA
and ZYLBERBERG
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/englander/


Baron de Hirsh colonies #ukraine

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I noted Moshe Davis' item on the Digest regarding
Argentina Baron De Hirsh colony. My family went to
the one he established in North Dakota (Dakota
Territory then) - Painted Woods. There was also one,
I think, at or near Fargo, North Dakota. I am still
trying to find out where in Russia they came from. I
am going to list the names of the colonists, as far as
I have them >from information on the drawing of the
"Wechsler Russian Jewish Immgrant FArm at Painted
Woods" - appearing in many places including a book by
Abba Eban.
In addition to my ancestors, Solomon and Levi Isaac
DILLER (DELLAR), there were: Abraham and J. AXELROD
(he seemed to be one of the leaders), B, BARON, N.
BROMBERG, N. COHEN, B. J. and M DORFMAN, David DUBIVER
(married into my family), J. FUCHE, A and J GALE or
GALL, Louis GERSTMAN (married into my family), Hyman,
David and J. GOLDSTEIN, Baruch HECHTMAN, Barnett
ISRAEL, Nachum and Simon KATZ, A and Joeph KARTMAN
(married into my family), N. and A. KJOSOFSKY, N, G
and J LEVIFANSKY, M. MARCULES, G. and M. NUDELMAN (a
NUDELMAN was the organizer and leader of the group and
even had the post office names for him for a time)
Simon ROGWOL, J. ROGOWOL (same name?), Moses and S.
STEINMAN, J and L. SHENK and Abraham WOLF.
The information is >from the American JewishArchives.
If these names are familiar to anyone in the group and
you know the town(s) they came >from in the Ukraine or
any other data, I would love to know. I am stuck at
trying to find where the DILLER family came from. One
daughter remained in Russia for a time - married to
Hirsh RUBENSTEIN and after he died to Isaac SAVRANSKY
and she and Isaac joined her father and brothers in
St. Paul for a time and they all went west to Oregon
and Washington after the colony died.
Apparently few of the agricultural settlements were
successful

Dorothy Dellar Kohanski


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Baron de Hirsh colonies #ukraine

Dorothy Kohanski <dkohanski@...>
 

I noted Moshe Davis' item on the Digest regarding
Argentina Baron De Hirsh colony. My family went to
the one he established in North Dakota (Dakota
Territory then) - Painted Woods. There was also one,
I think, at or near Fargo, North Dakota. I am still
trying to find out where in Russia they came from. I
am going to list the names of the colonists, as far as
I have them >from information on the drawing of the
"Wechsler Russian Jewish Immgrant FArm at Painted
Woods" - appearing in many places including a book by
Abba Eban.
In addition to my ancestors, Solomon and Levi Isaac
DILLER (DELLAR), there were: Abraham and J. AXELROD
(he seemed to be one of the leaders), B, BARON, N.
BROMBERG, N. COHEN, B. J. and M DORFMAN, David DUBIVER
(married into my family), J. FUCHE, A and J GALE or
GALL, Louis GERSTMAN (married into my family), Hyman,
David and J. GOLDSTEIN, Baruch HECHTMAN, Barnett
ISRAEL, Nachum and Simon KATZ, A and Joeph KARTMAN
(married into my family), N. and A. KJOSOFSKY, N, G
and J LEVIFANSKY, M. MARCULES, G. and M. NUDELMAN (a
NUDELMAN was the organizer and leader of the group and
even had the post office names for him for a time)
Simon ROGWOL, J. ROGOWOL (same name?), Moses and S.
STEINMAN, J and L. SHENK and Abraham WOLF.
The information is >from the American JewishArchives.
If these names are familiar to anyone in the group and
you know the town(s) they came >from in the Ukraine or
any other data, I would love to know. I am stuck at
trying to find where the DILLER family came from. One
daughter remained in Russia for a time - married to
Hirsh RUBENSTEIN and after he died to Isaac SAVRANSKY
and she and Isaac joined her father and brothers in
St. Paul for a time and they all went west to Oregon
and Washington after the colony died.
Apparently few of the agricultural settlements were
successful

Dorothy Dellar Kohanski


Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

Dear David and everyone,

If you're looking into the South Jersey Baron de Hirsch colonies, I would
recommend a book called Immigrants to Freedom: Jewish Communities in Rural
New Jersey Since 1882, by Joseph Brandes (University of Pennsylvania Press:
1971). The NJ colonies were much different than the Argentina ones, though,
by what I know.

My great-grandparents, Benjamin and Basha BRUCHANSKY, came >from Priluki,
near Kiev, to Carmel, New Jersey, in 1904. They were later joined by
cousins >from the DOLGIN family, >from the same general area of the Ukraine.

I am still trying to find out what became of my great-great-grandfather,
Israel or Ilka BRUCHANSKY, who emigrated with them and disappeared sometime
between 1904 and 1910. And I'm still searching for the grave of my
great-grandfather, Benjamin, who committed suicide in 1916 in Philadelphia.

Regards,

Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
(formerly Pennsauken, NJ)
Researching: BRUCHANSKY, BRAHINSKY, BROWN, Priluki, Ukraine--> Carmel, NJ
--> Camden, Philadelphia
KHAZANOVICH, Priluki, Ukraine
TANTLEFSKY, Priluki, Ukraine
SCHNEURSOHN, Priluki, Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Ukraine to Argentina 1890 #ukraine

Harriet Brown <hnbrown@...>
 

Dear David and everyone,

If you're looking into the South Jersey Baron de Hirsch colonies, I would
recommend a book called Immigrants to Freedom: Jewish Communities in Rural
New Jersey Since 1882, by Joseph Brandes (University of Pennsylvania Press:
1971). The NJ colonies were much different than the Argentina ones, though,
by what I know.

My great-grandparents, Benjamin and Basha BRUCHANSKY, came >from Priluki,
near Kiev, to Carmel, New Jersey, in 1904. They were later joined by
cousins >from the DOLGIN family, >from the same general area of the Ukraine.

I am still trying to find out what became of my great-great-grandfather,
Israel or Ilka BRUCHANSKY, who emigrated with them and disappeared sometime
between 1904 and 1910. And I'm still searching for the grave of my
great-grandfather, Benjamin, who committed suicide in 1916 in Philadelphia.

Regards,

Harriet Brown
Madison, WI
(formerly Pennsauken, NJ)
Researching: BRUCHANSKY, BRAHINSKY, BROWN, Priluki, Ukraine--> Carmel, NJ
--> Camden, Philadelphia
KHAZANOVICH, Priluki, Ukraine
TANTLEFSKY, Priluki, Ukraine
SCHNEURSOHN, Priluki, Ukraine


PENZUR #ukraine

DGittel863@...
 

Dear Genners:
I am searching for my maternal grandmother's family, PENZUR,
who came >from a town near Ekatrinoslav to Philadelphia in or around 1905.
I think they travelled through Liverpool, but I'm not sure. I know all of
the current Philadelphia PENZURS who are cousins. Does anyone have any
information about other PENZURS >from the Ukraine. Also, the name of the
town, translated into English, was "Little hands that reach out and grab
things." Does anyone have any idea what the Russian or Ukrainian name was?
I'd appreciate any inforamtion. Also searching AXELROD, BOOKBINDER, AND
LIPSKY, >from Belarus or Ukraine.

Thank you.

Diana Gittelman,
New YOrk, N.Y.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine PENZUR #ukraine

DGittel863@...
 

Dear Genners:
I am searching for my maternal grandmother's family, PENZUR,
who came >from a town near Ekatrinoslav to Philadelphia in or around 1905.
I think they travelled through Liverpool, but I'm not sure. I know all of
the current Philadelphia PENZURS who are cousins. Does anyone have any
information about other PENZURS >from the Ukraine. Also, the name of the
town, translated into English, was "Little hands that reach out and grab
things." Does anyone have any idea what the Russian or Ukrainian name was?
I'd appreciate any inforamtion. Also searching AXELROD, BOOKBINDER, AND
LIPSKY, >from Belarus or Ukraine.

Thank you.

Diana Gittelman,
New YOrk, N.Y.