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Immigration Records #general

Jeff T. Severson <JEFFTS@...>
 

Hi all,
I was just doing another search on the Ellis Island website
(http://www.ellisislandrecords.org) and I came across something weird. I
was doing a search for my great-grandfather, Joseph Rosenthal, and I checked
the close matches. There was only one match in the close matches and the
name was Joseph Rosenthall. This persons age and place of residence match
my great-grandfather but the date of arrival is the weird part.

My great-grandfather was born in 1891 and, if my aunt interpreted the his
Certificate of Naturalization correctly, he petitioned in 1915. He lived in
Ulster Park, NY.

The record that I found for Joseph Rosenthall says that his place of
residence was Ulster Park, NY and that he was 28 yrs. old. The only
problem, it says his date of arrival was 1920.

As I said, the age matches for 1920 and the place of residence definately
matches. The name is also almost an exact match. Is there any possibility
that whoever entered the data at the Ellis Island website may have typed the
wrong number? Is there anyone I can contact to verify this information?

Thanks,

Jeff T. Severson
Ulster Park, NY
http://www.rosenthal-severson.com

ROSENTHAL (Brooklyn NY, Ulster Park NY, Kingston NY, Poland)
FELLERMAN (NYC, Miedzyrzec Podlaski)
SIMON (Poland, Russia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Immigration Records #general

Jeff T. Severson <JEFFTS@...>
 

Hi all,
I was just doing another search on the Ellis Island website
(http://www.ellisislandrecords.org) and I came across something weird. I
was doing a search for my great-grandfather, Joseph Rosenthal, and I checked
the close matches. There was only one match in the close matches and the
name was Joseph Rosenthall. This persons age and place of residence match
my great-grandfather but the date of arrival is the weird part.

My great-grandfather was born in 1891 and, if my aunt interpreted the his
Certificate of Naturalization correctly, he petitioned in 1915. He lived in
Ulster Park, NY.

The record that I found for Joseph Rosenthall says that his place of
residence was Ulster Park, NY and that he was 28 yrs. old. The only
problem, it says his date of arrival was 1920.

As I said, the age matches for 1920 and the place of residence definately
matches. The name is also almost an exact match. Is there any possibility
that whoever entered the data at the Ellis Island website may have typed the
wrong number? Is there anyone I can contact to verify this information?

Thanks,

Jeff T. Severson
Ulster Park, NY
http://www.rosenthal-severson.com

ROSENTHAL (Brooklyn NY, Ulster Park NY, Kingston NY, Poland)
FELLERMAN (NYC, Miedzyrzec Podlaski)
SIMON (Poland, Russia)


WASSERTRILLING #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:45:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rabbfour@... writes:

<< It turns out these WASSERTRILLINGs are >from Boskowitz, and now I am trying
to link them up to WASSERTRILLING >from Hessen. >>

==Wassertrilling was the Jewish name for the town of Wassertruedingen, south
of Ansbach in Middle Franconia, Germany. (The literary TRILLING family takes
its name >from here--or was it the near-by Treuchtlingen--by memory is a
little porous). It is likelyn that the two families by this name both
originated in Wassertruedingen.

Michael Bernet, New York, seeking

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen WASSERTRILLING #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/11/2002 6:45:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rabbfour@... writes:

<< It turns out these WASSERTRILLINGs are >from Boskowitz, and now I am trying
to link them up to WASSERTRILLING >from Hessen. >>

==Wassertrilling was the Jewish name for the town of Wassertruedingen, south
of Ansbach in Middle Franconia, Germany. (The literary TRILLING family takes
its name >from here--or was it the near-by Treuchtlingen--by memory is a
little porous). It is likelyn that the two families by this name both
originated in Wassertruedingen.

Michael Bernet, New York, seeking

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina); BERNET,
BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


search engine #general

Sharken880@...
 

Dear Members,
For a couple of years I have been using the search engine
www.ixquick.com I have found that you can submit almost any surname and it
will pull up many hits >from all over the globe.
I keep it on my favorites list and use it for everything.
Sharron Budreski Reed

BUDRECKIS,BARTASEVICIUS,KOJRO.SWIDERSKI,LEMPICKI.ROLENC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen search engine #general

Sharken880@...
 

Dear Members,
For a couple of years I have been using the search engine
www.ixquick.com I have found that you can submit almost any surname and it
will pull up many hits >from all over the globe.
I keep it on my favorites list and use it for everything.
Sharron Budreski Reed

BUDRECKIS,BARTASEVICIUS,KOJRO.SWIDERSKI,LEMPICKI.ROLENC


Re: NY obits #general

Sara Lynns
 

don't know about the rest of you
just looked at the website
searching goes back to 1996 only (online)

Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman

searching Lerner/Shulman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: NY obits #general

Sara Lynns
 

don't know about the rest of you
just looked at the website
searching goes back to 1996 only (online)

Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman

searching Lerner/Shulman


Re: Plymouth Rock Cemetery, Brockton, MA #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Anne,
You might try mailing one of those one-use "disposable" cameras to the
cemetery office, and ask them to take the photos and return the camera
to you. Include a return address label and return postage, so their
task is made as simple as possible. Tell them what you want photos of,
including whether you need to read the inscriptions, see the scenery,
etc. Let them know what's important to you.

Besides not having to get someone to go to a whole lot of effort with
travel, photos, postage, etc., you'll end up with much better photos
using a one-use camera than using a Polaroid.

I've had good luck with this method, even to getting photos of graves in
London, England. (For this, I sent some English money I had, instead of
trying to include return postage.)

Hilary Henkin


Riga, Latvia - or the other Riga? #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

Dear All,
Thank you all for your responses to my query about the 'other' Riga.
from all the responses I received, I have deduced that there IS only one
Riga - in Latvia.
However the country Riga is in was previously classed as Russia.
The surnames my family used were: Schneider, Myers, Goldstein and Milner.
Thanks for the clarification!
Daniel Gee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Plymouth Rock Cemetery, Brockton, MA #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear Anne,
You might try mailing one of those one-use "disposable" cameras to the
cemetery office, and ask them to take the photos and return the camera
to you. Include a return address label and return postage, so their
task is made as simple as possible. Tell them what you want photos of,
including whether you need to read the inscriptions, see the scenery,
etc. Let them know what's important to you.

Besides not having to get someone to go to a whole lot of effort with
travel, photos, postage, etc., you'll end up with much better photos
using a one-use camera than using a Polaroid.

I've had good luck with this method, even to getting photos of graves in
London, England. (For this, I sent some English money I had, instead of
trying to include return postage.)

Hilary Henkin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Riga, Latvia - or the other Riga? #general

robert.gleek <robert.gleek@...>
 

Dear All,
Thank you all for your responses to my query about the 'other' Riga.
from all the responses I received, I have deduced that there IS only one
Riga - in Latvia.
However the country Riga is in was previously classed as Russia.
The surnames my family used were: Schneider, Myers, Goldstein and Milner.
Thanks for the clarification!
Daniel Gee


Re: help with Polish translation #galicia

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I've received reports >from a number of you that you have received messages
in Polish >from Marek Szukalak. Szukalak is an author writing a book on
Lodz Jews. In his message he is soliciting information about the surnames
and individuals you are researching and asking you to confirm the
information he already has. He apparently obtained your email addresses
from the JewishGen Family Finder. Please respond to him at your own risk.
Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
LARG Co-coordinator

From: Hafcjf@...

Hi everyone! I've just received two emails with the subject lines of FUKS
and FUCHS, both surnames that I am researching. They appear to be
identical.
However, they are written in Polish. Is there anyone out there who can
translate them for me? I've included the text below.

Thanks so much,
Cathy J. Flamholtz
Lawrenceville, GA
hafcjf@...
>>


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: help with Polish translation #poland #lodz

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I've received reports >from a number of you that you have received messages
in Polish >from Marek Szukalak. Szukalak is an author writing a book on
Lodz Jews. In his message he is soliciting information about the surnames
and individuals you are researching and asking you to confirm the
information he already has. He apparently obtained your email addresses
from the JewishGen Family Finder. Please respond to him at your own risk.
Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
LARG Co-coordinator

From: Hafcjf@...

Hi everyone! I've just received two emails with the subject lines of FUKS
and FUCHS, both surnames that I am researching. They appear to be
identical.
However, they are written in Polish. Is there anyone out there who can
translate them for me? I've included the text below.

Thanks so much,
Cathy J. Flamholtz
Lawrenceville, GA
hafcjf@...
>>


Search Engines #general

Heilbrunn <rabbfour@...>
 

For years I have been searching for information regarding ELCHANAN HEHNLE
KIRCHAN author of Simchat Hanefesh >from all sources including several
postings to Jewishgen. At best I could glean only very sparse information.
About two months ago I decided to do a Google search.
Immediately Google responded with the spelling KIRCHAN (instead of KirchaHn
which I had thought to eb the most correct spelling).

The amended spelling brought up several hits, including one for Hollanders
Book store which had a reprint of Simchat Hanefesh in good condition of
which I am now the proud owner. Apart >from the book itself, there is a
section on his life and family background.

Flushed with my success, I then typed in the name WASSERTRILLING (Kirchan's
son in law) for which I also had very little information into Google. Again
I got several hits including a large family tree and the information that
later on WASSERTRILLING was amended to WASSING.

It turns out these WASSERTRILLINGs are >from Boskowitz, and now I am trying
to link them up to WASSERTRILLING >from Hessen.

I therefore highly recommend Google searches of names and obscure
information if it's on the 'net, Google will tease it out!

Of course, if anyone out there can fill me in with more information, I'd be
delighted.

Philip Heilbrunn


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search Engines #general

Heilbrunn <rabbfour@...>
 

For years I have been searching for information regarding ELCHANAN HEHNLE
KIRCHAN author of Simchat Hanefesh >from all sources including several
postings to Jewishgen. At best I could glean only very sparse information.
About two months ago I decided to do a Google search.
Immediately Google responded with the spelling KIRCHAN (instead of KirchaHn
which I had thought to eb the most correct spelling).

The amended spelling brought up several hits, including one for Hollanders
Book store which had a reprint of Simchat Hanefesh in good condition of
which I am now the proud owner. Apart >from the book itself, there is a
section on his life and family background.

Flushed with my success, I then typed in the name WASSERTRILLING (Kirchan's
son in law) for which I also had very little information into Google. Again
I got several hits including a large family tree and the information that
later on WASSERTRILLING was amended to WASSING.

It turns out these WASSERTRILLINGs are >from Boskowitz, and now I am trying
to link them up to WASSERTRILLING >from Hessen.

I therefore highly recommend Google searches of names and obscure
information if it's on the 'net, Google will tease it out!

Of course, if anyone out there can fill me in with more information, I'd be
delighted.

Philip Heilbrunn


Re: Birthdates #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

One of the things the discussion about birthdates points out: it really
depends where your family lived. Russia and 'the East', generally had
little knowledge of birthdates (of course, there is a lot of variation-some
knew the year and the Jewish date, some knew the Jewish date, etc.). In
Germany, where M. Bernet's ancestors came from, civil registration started
very early-some places in the 1700's. Where the Bruckheimer family came
from (now in Baden, but then the property the Electorate of the Main), civil
registration started in 1871 with the formation of the country 'Germany'.
If they were in Baden before that, they would have civil registration in
1807.

So, like so many things, you have to consider exactly where your family
lived in the year of the event.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Birthdates #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

One of the things the discussion about birthdates points out: it really
depends where your family lived. Russia and 'the East', generally had
little knowledge of birthdates (of course, there is a lot of variation-some
knew the year and the Jewish date, some knew the Jewish date, etc.). In
Germany, where M. Bernet's ancestors came from, civil registration started
very early-some places in the 1700's. Where the Bruckheimer family came
from (now in Baden, but then the property the Electorate of the Main), civil
registration started in 1871 with the formation of the country 'Germany'.
If they were in Baden before that, they would have civil registration in
1807.

So, like so many things, you have to consider exactly where your family
lived in the year of the event.

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY


Rabbi FRYDHEIM of Lublin #rabbinic

Ann Wine <annw@...>
 

Hi everyone

Does anyone know of a Rabbi in Lublin, Rabbi Izrael Icek FRYDGAJM
or FRYDHEIM?

He was probably born around 1850 and was apparently at some time on
the Beth Din - maybe in 1910 there abouts.

Does anyone have any idea where I could look to find this out? I am
in Sydney, Australia.

Thanks

Ann Wine
Sydney, Australia

WAJNBAUM, WEINBAUM , HERSZKOWICZ, STRAUSZ, BIDLOWSKI,
ZARKOVSKI/CHARKOVSKI, ORZECH, KALISTEN (LODZ , NOWY KORCZYN)
ORZECH (USA), SZTERN (PRZYSUCHA), ZEIDNER (KAZMIERZ DOLNY,
ARGENTINA), GEFEN,WAJNBAUM (ISRAEL), WEINBAUM (ARGENTINA)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi FRYDHEIM of Lublin #rabbinic

Ann Wine <annw@...>
 

Hi everyone

Does anyone know of a Rabbi in Lublin, Rabbi Izrael Icek FRYDGAJM
or FRYDHEIM?

He was probably born around 1850 and was apparently at some time on
the Beth Din - maybe in 1910 there abouts.

Does anyone have any idea where I could look to find this out? I am
in Sydney, Australia.

Thanks

Ann Wine
Sydney, Australia

WAJNBAUM, WEINBAUM , HERSZKOWICZ, STRAUSZ, BIDLOWSKI,
ZARKOVSKI/CHARKOVSKI, ORZECH, KALISTEN (LODZ , NOWY KORCZYN)
ORZECH (USA), SZTERN (PRZYSUCHA), ZEIDNER (KAZMIERZ DOLNY,
ARGENTINA), GEFEN,WAJNBAUM (ISRAEL), WEINBAUM (ARGENTINA)