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Re: using Hebrew names vs modern names
#belarus
Joanne Saltman <jsaltman@...>
I also use Family Tree Maker, and have found it most useful to assign the
real name, or original spelling of the name as the main name and then put in the new name or modern name as "also known as". The family trees and reports use the also known as name, but I have a way of keeping the original names recorded together. Joanne Saltman, Massachusetts researching MINTZ, Dieveniskes, Lithuania; ZALTSMANOVICH (SALTMAN, SALTZMAN), Kasloyzyna, Belarus; GORENSTEIN, ORENSTEIN, GORIN (GORYNSTEJN), Kremenets, Ukraine; SETRON, Kiev and Odessa, Ukraine; SPARBERG, HARTZBERG, Russia, and Buffalo, NY
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Re: Russian land measures
#belarus
Nancy Fisher-Allison <allifish5@...>
A desyatina is 1.09 hectares or 2.07 acres. "Klapter" is not in my Russian
dictionary. Nancy Fisher-Allison Seattle, Washington Researching: BINYAMINSOHN, CHAIKEN >from Ulla, near Vitebsk
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: using Hebrew names vs modern names
#belarus
Joanne Saltman <jsaltman@...>
I also use Family Tree Maker, and have found it most useful to assign the
real name, or original spelling of the name as the main name and then put in the new name or modern name as "also known as". The family trees and reports use the also known as name, but I have a way of keeping the original names recorded together. Joanne Saltman, Massachusetts researching MINTZ, Dieveniskes, Lithuania; ZALTSMANOVICH (SALTMAN, SALTZMAN), Kasloyzyna, Belarus; GORENSTEIN, ORENSTEIN, GORIN (GORYNSTEJN), Kremenets, Ukraine; SETRON, Kiev and Odessa, Ukraine; SPARBERG, HARTZBERG, Russia, and Buffalo, NY
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Belarus SIG #Belarus re: Russian land measures
#belarus
Nancy Fisher-Allison <allifish5@...>
A desyatina is 1.09 hectares or 2.07 acres. "Klapter" is not in my Russian
dictionary. Nancy Fisher-Allison Seattle, Washington Researching: BINYAMINSOHN, CHAIKEN >from Ulla, near Vitebsk
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CARP and Sephardim
#general
Leon Taranto
Some of us do have names that are identfiably Sephardic, including
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several that I'm researching. (Of course, some are not specifically Jewish surnames, but others, like BARMAIMON, PAPOUCHADO, ALHADEFF, BERESIT, ABOUAF are typically seen only as Jewish names). Leon Taranto Rockville, Maryland Researching: TARANTO, PAPOUCHADO, CAPOUYA (MeCAPOUYA, CAPUIA, CAPUYA, KAPUYA), OUMANO, BARMAIMON (BARBANYON, BARBAGNON, BARBANON, BARBAIMON), CAPELLUTO, HERRERA, ALHADEFF, BERECIT (BERESIT, BERESCIT, BEDRESSI), TABUH (TABOCH), FRANCO, ABOUAF, and probably BENUNO -- mostly >from Izmir (Smyrna) and Rhodes; but also >from Antalya (Adalia) for the OUMANO and HERRERA families
In a message dated 3/3/02 12:59:15 AM, leah25@netvision.net.il writes:
<< There is really no way of knowing whether a particular family is Sephardic or not just by last name or location. >>
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen CARP and Sephardim
#general
Leon Taranto
Some of us do have names that are identfiably Sephardic, including
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several that I'm researching. (Of course, some are not specifically Jewish surnames, but others, like BARMAIMON, PAPOUCHADO, ALHADEFF, BERESIT, ABOUAF are typically seen only as Jewish names). Leon Taranto Rockville, Maryland Researching: TARANTO, PAPOUCHADO, CAPOUYA (MeCAPOUYA, CAPUIA, CAPUYA, KAPUYA), OUMANO, BARMAIMON (BARBANYON, BARBAGNON, BARBANON, BARBAIMON), CAPELLUTO, HERRERA, ALHADEFF, BERECIT (BERESIT, BERESCIT, BEDRESSI), TABUH (TABOCH), FRANCO, ABOUAF, and probably BENUNO -- mostly >from Izmir (Smyrna) and Rhodes; but also >from Antalya (Adalia) for the OUMANO and HERRERA families
In a message dated 3/3/02 12:59:15 AM, leah25@netvision.net.il writes:
<< There is really no way of knowing whether a particular family is Sephardic or not just by last name or location. >>
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Re: Camenetz or Podolsk
#general
Alexander Sharon
"marie darrer" wrote:
... On the declaration his birth place is said to be Camenetz, butMarie, Podolia (Ukrainian: Podilia) where >from "Podolsk" is derived, is the name of the historical region located in the modern Ukraine. It has been ruled in the past by Poland and Russia. During the Russian Imperial rule this region was known as Podolskaya Guberniya (The Governorship or Province). Current town name in Ukrainian is Kamyanets Podilskiy but one will often encounter its previous Russian equivalent name, Kamenets Podolskiy when searching through the genealogical sources. Known Jewish gazetteer, WOWW, provides another alternatives for this town name: Kamenets Podolsk and Komenitz Podolsk. As to summarize: town name is Kamenets Podolskiy (as it listed in 404 entries in JGFF dtabase). Alexander Sharon CAlagary, Alberta
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Re: Olswanger and Schneider
#southafrica
Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
Isaac, are you Isaac Herring >from Herziliya and posibly Herzlia Hostel?
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Didn;t we go to school"together"? It is always nice to see a familiar name. How are you? Ros Romem nee Abrahams.
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From: I Herring <ike@eject.co.za> To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: [safrica] Olswanger and Schneider I am looking for any connection to my grand parents Feiga (Fanny) BashaJoshua Zelick.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Camenetz or Podolsk
#general
Alexander Sharon
"marie darrer" wrote:
... On the declaration his birth place is said to be Camenetz, butMarie, Podolia (Ukrainian: Podilia) where >from "Podolsk" is derived, is the name of the historical region located in the modern Ukraine. It has been ruled in the past by Poland and Russia. During the Russian Imperial rule this region was known as Podolskaya Guberniya (The Governorship or Province). Current town name in Ukrainian is Kamyanets Podilskiy but one will often encounter its previous Russian equivalent name, Kamenets Podolskiy when searching through the genealogical sources. Known Jewish gazetteer, WOWW, provides another alternatives for this town name: Kamenets Podolsk and Komenitz Podolsk. As to summarize: town name is Kamenets Podolskiy (as it listed in 404 entries in JGFF dtabase). Alexander Sharon CAlagary, Alberta
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Olswanger and Schneider
#southafrica
Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
Isaac, are you Isaac Herring >from Herziliya and posibly Herzlia Hostel?
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Didn;t we go to school"together"? It is always nice to see a familiar name. How are you? Ros Romem nee Abrahams.
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From: I Herring <ike@eject.co.za> To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:25 PM Subject: [safrica] Olswanger and Schneider I am looking for any connection to my grand parents Feiga (Fanny) BashaJoshua Zelick.
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PEISEL and Heinrich Jami (Yamey)
#southafrica
adam and lopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
Dear Fellow Investigators, I would be grateful for any
help on the following query: I am descended >from the JAMI family >from Lithuania. The following is information I have in my files: "Moses JAMI Married Dora PEISEL. They lived in Kuliai, Lithuania. He exported linseed and flax to Memel (now Klaipeda, Lith.) before WW1. They had 7 children: Heinrich, Feitel, Elsa, Kurt, Issie, Max,Sheinel. HEINRICH JAMI Batchelor. Lived in Budapest with maternal uncles where they had a brewery. After WW2 came to Wolsely from Shanghai(S. Africa) where he started a business,A few years later he was murdered." I assume that the "maternal uncles" mentioned above were >from the PEISEL family. Does anyone have any information about PEISELs involved in brewing in Budapest prior to WW2? Or anything else in the above extract. please contact me at <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica PEISEL and Heinrich Jami (Yamey)
#southafrica
adam and lopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
Dear Fellow Investigators, I would be grateful for any
help on the following query: I am descended >from the JAMI family >from Lithuania. The following is information I have in my files: "Moses JAMI Married Dora PEISEL. They lived in Kuliai, Lithuania. He exported linseed and flax to Memel (now Klaipeda, Lith.) before WW1. They had 7 children: Heinrich, Feitel, Elsa, Kurt, Issie, Max,Sheinel. HEINRICH JAMI Batchelor. Lived in Budapest with maternal uncles where they had a brewery. After WW2 came to Wolsely from Shanghai(S. Africa) where he started a business,A few years later he was murdered." I assume that the "maternal uncles" mentioned above were >from the PEISEL family. Does anyone have any information about PEISELs involved in brewing in Budapest prior to WW2? Or anything else in the above extract. please contact me at <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>
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Re: Pruseny, Russia
#general
Alexander Sharon
Abel Rosenschein listed his town as Pruseny, Russia when he departed Vera FinbergVera, Pruseny, Russia is most probably what is known nowadays as Pruzhany, Belarus. WOWW provides several alternative names for this town, including Pruzhene, Prusany and others. Pruzhany have been part of the Russia Grodno Guberniya, when Abel Rosenschein was born there in the 19th century. May I also suggest to add JGFF listings to your search tools located at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm When enter town search for "Pruseny" using D-M (Daitch-Mokotoff) Soundex system, Pruzhany, Belarus will be exihibited amongst the other alternative town names. [There are currently 156 entries for town Pruzhany, Belarus in the JGFF database] The very same rule (use of D-M Soundex) applies when search is conducted through the JGFF database for the surname (family names). When enter name Rosenschein using D-M soundex search type, the entry for Rosenshein (note the anglicized spelling) for Izabelin, Belarus will show up. Izabelin is located within the 50 miles distance >from Pruzhany. It could be a match. Alexander Sharon Calgary. Alberta
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Epstein sefardi
#general
Chaim freedman
Leah Aharoni wrote about Ashkenazi families with Sefardi origins:
"The best example is in the introduction to Tora Temima (a Tora commentary) Written by Rabbi EPSTEIN in Poland in the late 1800's. There he wrote that his family is originally >from Spain. Epstein Sephardic?? Turns out yes." The Epstein family and the Horowitz family, both Leviim, are descended from the Spanish Benveniste family, which, after the expulsion of theJews >from Spain in 1492, fled to Saloniki. Further movements took branches of the family to many places in Europe and two distinct sub-families arose which took the surnames Epstein and Horowitz. It should be noted that these families, as others of Sefardi origin, merged with the local Ashkenazi communities and did not retain their Sefardi customs of prayer, etc. Chaim Freedman Petah Tikvah, Israel email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/17/JewishWorld/JewishWorld.43575.html
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pruseny, Russia
#general
Alexander Sharon
Abel Rosenschein listed his town as Pruseny, Russia when he departed Vera FinbergVera, Pruseny, Russia is most probably what is known nowadays as Pruzhany, Belarus. WOWW provides several alternative names for this town, including Pruzhene, Prusany and others. Pruzhany have been part of the Russia Grodno Guberniya, when Abel Rosenschein was born there in the 19th century. May I also suggest to add JGFF listings to your search tools located at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm When enter town search for "Pruseny" using D-M (Daitch-Mokotoff) Soundex system, Pruzhany, Belarus will be exihibited amongst the other alternative town names. [There are currently 156 entries for town Pruzhany, Belarus in the JGFF database] The very same rule (use of D-M Soundex) applies when search is conducted through the JGFF database for the surname (family names). When enter name Rosenschein using D-M soundex search type, the entry for Rosenshein (note the anglicized spelling) for Izabelin, Belarus will show up. Izabelin is located within the 50 miles distance >from Pruzhany. It could be a match. Alexander Sharon Calgary. Alberta
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Epstein sefardi
#general
Chaim freedman
Leah Aharoni wrote about Ashkenazi families with Sefardi origins:
"The best example is in the introduction to Tora Temima (a Tora commentary) Written by Rabbi EPSTEIN in Poland in the late 1800's. There he wrote that his family is originally >from Spain. Epstein Sephardic?? Turns out yes." The Epstein family and the Horowitz family, both Leviim, are descended from the Spanish Benveniste family, which, after the expulsion of theJews >from Spain in 1492, fled to Saloniki. Further movements took branches of the family to many places in Europe and two distinct sub-families arose which took the surnames Epstein and Horowitz. It should be noted that these families, as others of Sefardi origin, merged with the local Ashkenazi communities and did not retain their Sefardi customs of prayer, etc. Chaim Freedman Petah Tikvah, Israel email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/17/JewishWorld/JewishWorld.43575.html
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new addresses
#lithuania
A. Cassel <acassel@...>
Friends and fellow Keidaners,
This is just an update and reminder, that as of March 1 both my email address and the address of the Keidan website have changed. For now, the Keidan site may be visited at: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acassel/keidan And my own email address is: acassel@comcast.net I'm sorry for the inconvenience; it's occasioned by the bankruptcy of my previous Internet supplier and their takeover by this new outfit. I'm looking into obtaining a permanent web-domain address for the Keidan site -- something like www.keidan.net perhaps; I'll keep you all posted on the progress there. Thanks for your continued support and interest. Andy Cassel
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Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania new addresses
#lithuania
A. Cassel <acassel@...>
Friends and fellow Keidaners,
This is just an update and reminder, that as of March 1 both my email address and the address of the Keidan website have changed. For now, the Keidan site may be visited at: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acassel/keidan And my own email address is: acassel@comcast.net I'm sorry for the inconvenience; it's occasioned by the bankruptcy of my previous Internet supplier and their takeover by this new outfit. I'm looking into obtaining a permanent web-domain address for the Keidan site -- something like www.keidan.net perhaps; I'll keep you all posted on the progress there. Thanks for your continued support and interest. Andy Cassel
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Carp and Sephardim
#general
Udi Cain
Dear Michael.
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The Jewish people of Syria, Baghdad and India (mainly of Iraqi origin), are not Sepharadic Jewish people, but Mizrachim (Eastern) Jewish people. Best regards. Udi Cain. Jerusalem.
I remember at my wedding dinner, my best man's mother,
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Carp and Sephardim
#general
Udi Cain
Dear Michael.
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The Jewish people of Syria, Baghdad and India (mainly of Iraqi origin), are not Sepharadic Jewish people, but Mizrachim (Eastern) Jewish people. Best regards. Udi Cain. Jerusalem.
I remember at my wedding dinner, my best man's mother,
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