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Re: using Hebrew names vs modern names #belarus

Joanne Saltman <jsaltman@...>
 

I also use Family Tree Maker, and have found it most useful to assign the
real name, or original spelling of the name as the main name and then put in
the new name or modern name as "also known as". The family trees and
reports use the also known as name, but I have a way of keeping the original
names recorded together.
Joanne Saltman, Massachusetts
researching MINTZ, Dieveniskes, Lithuania; ZALTSMANOVICH (SALTMAN,
SALTZMAN), Kasloyzyna, Belarus; GORENSTEIN, ORENSTEIN, GORIN (GORYNSTEJN),
Kremenets, Ukraine; SETRON, Kiev and Odessa, Ukraine; SPARBERG, HARTZBERG,
Russia, and Buffalo, NY


Re: Russian land measures #belarus

Nancy Fisher-Allison <allifish5@...>
 

A desyatina is 1.09 hectares or 2.07 acres. "Klapter" is not in my Russian
dictionary.

Nancy Fisher-Allison
Seattle, Washington

Researching: BINYAMINSOHN, CHAIKEN >from Ulla, near Vitebsk


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: using Hebrew names vs modern names #belarus

Joanne Saltman <jsaltman@...>
 

I also use Family Tree Maker, and have found it most useful to assign the
real name, or original spelling of the name as the main name and then put in
the new name or modern name as "also known as". The family trees and
reports use the also known as name, but I have a way of keeping the original
names recorded together.
Joanne Saltman, Massachusetts
researching MINTZ, Dieveniskes, Lithuania; ZALTSMANOVICH (SALTMAN,
SALTZMAN), Kasloyzyna, Belarus; GORENSTEIN, ORENSTEIN, GORIN (GORYNSTEJN),
Kremenets, Ukraine; SETRON, Kiev and Odessa, Ukraine; SPARBERG, HARTZBERG,
Russia, and Buffalo, NY


Belarus SIG #Belarus re: Russian land measures #belarus

Nancy Fisher-Allison <allifish5@...>
 

A desyatina is 1.09 hectares or 2.07 acres. "Klapter" is not in my Russian
dictionary.

Nancy Fisher-Allison
Seattle, Washington

Researching: BINYAMINSOHN, CHAIKEN >from Ulla, near Vitebsk


CARP and Sephardim #general

Leon Taranto
 

Some of us do have names that are identfiably Sephardic, including
several that I'm researching. (Of course, some are not specifically
Jewish surnames, but others, like BARMAIMON, PAPOUCHADO, ALHADEFF,
BERESIT, ABOUAF are typically seen only as Jewish names).

Leon Taranto
Rockville, Maryland

Researching: TARANTO, PAPOUCHADO, CAPOUYA (MeCAPOUYA, CAPUIA,
CAPUYA, KAPUYA), OUMANO, BARMAIMON (BARBANYON, BARBAGNON,
BARBANON, BARBAIMON), CAPELLUTO, HERRERA, ALHADEFF, BERECIT
(BERESIT, BERESCIT, BEDRESSI), TABUH (TABOCH), FRANCO, ABOUAF,
and probably BENUNO -- mostly >from Izmir (Smyrna) and Rhodes; but
also >from Antalya (Adalia) for the OUMANO and HERRERA families

In a message dated 3/3/02 12:59:15 AM, leah25@netvision.net.il writes:

<< There is really no way of knowing whether a particular family is
Sephardic or not just by last name or location. >>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen CARP and Sephardim #general

Leon Taranto
 

Some of us do have names that are identfiably Sephardic, including
several that I'm researching. (Of course, some are not specifically
Jewish surnames, but others, like BARMAIMON, PAPOUCHADO, ALHADEFF,
BERESIT, ABOUAF are typically seen only as Jewish names).

Leon Taranto
Rockville, Maryland

Researching: TARANTO, PAPOUCHADO, CAPOUYA (MeCAPOUYA, CAPUIA,
CAPUYA, KAPUYA), OUMANO, BARMAIMON (BARBANYON, BARBAGNON,
BARBANON, BARBAIMON), CAPELLUTO, HERRERA, ALHADEFF, BERECIT
(BERESIT, BERESCIT, BEDRESSI), TABUH (TABOCH), FRANCO, ABOUAF,
and probably BENUNO -- mostly >from Izmir (Smyrna) and Rhodes; but
also >from Antalya (Adalia) for the OUMANO and HERRERA families

In a message dated 3/3/02 12:59:15 AM, leah25@netvision.net.il writes:

<< There is really no way of knowing whether a particular family is
Sephardic or not just by last name or location. >>


Re: Camenetz or Podolsk #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"marie darrer" wrote:

... On the declaration his birth place is said to be Camenetz, but
on the petition it is said to be Podolsk. Can anyone suggest what I
should do to reconcile these two bits of information.
Marie,

Podolia (Ukrainian: Podilia) where >from "Podolsk" is derived, is the
name of the historical region located in the modern Ukraine.
It has been ruled in the past by Poland and Russia.

During the Russian Imperial rule this region was known as Podolskaya
Guberniya (The Governorship or Province).

Current town name in Ukrainian is Kamyanets Podilskiy but one will often
encounter its previous Russian equivalent name, Kamenets Podolskiy when
searching through the genealogical sources.

Known Jewish gazetteer, WOWW, provides another alternatives for this town
name: Kamenets Podolsk and Komenitz Podolsk.

As to summarize: town name is Kamenets Podolskiy (as it listed in 404
entries in JGFF dtabase).

Alexander Sharon
CAlagary, Alberta


Re: Olswanger and Schneider #southafrica

Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
 

Isaac, are you Isaac Herring >from Herziliya and posibly Herzlia Hostel?
Didn;t we go to school"together"?
It is always nice to see a familiar name. How are you?
Ros Romem nee Abrahams.

----- Original Message -----
From: I Herring <ike@eject.co.za>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: [safrica] Olswanger and Schneider


I am looking for any connection to my grand parents Feiga (Fanny) Basha
Olswanger born 1884 Riga. Father's name David.

Feiga married Isaac Jacob Schneider born 1865 Latvia. Father's name
Joshua
Zelick.

They settled in Oudtshoorn SA abt 1900.

isaac herring
ike@eject.co.za


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Camenetz or Podolsk #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"marie darrer" wrote:

... On the declaration his birth place is said to be Camenetz, but
on the petition it is said to be Podolsk. Can anyone suggest what I
should do to reconcile these two bits of information.
Marie,

Podolia (Ukrainian: Podilia) where >from "Podolsk" is derived, is the
name of the historical region located in the modern Ukraine.
It has been ruled in the past by Poland and Russia.

During the Russian Imperial rule this region was known as Podolskaya
Guberniya (The Governorship or Province).

Current town name in Ukrainian is Kamyanets Podilskiy but one will often
encounter its previous Russian equivalent name, Kamenets Podolskiy when
searching through the genealogical sources.

Known Jewish gazetteer, WOWW, provides another alternatives for this town
name: Kamenets Podolsk and Komenitz Podolsk.

As to summarize: town name is Kamenets Podolskiy (as it listed in 404
entries in JGFF dtabase).

Alexander Sharon
CAlagary, Alberta


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Olswanger and Schneider #southafrica

Rosalind Romem <rromem@...>
 

Isaac, are you Isaac Herring >from Herziliya and posibly Herzlia Hostel?
Didn;t we go to school"together"?
It is always nice to see a familiar name. How are you?
Ros Romem nee Abrahams.

----- Original Message -----
From: I Herring <ike@eject.co.za>
To: South Africa SIG <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: [safrica] Olswanger and Schneider


I am looking for any connection to my grand parents Feiga (Fanny) Basha
Olswanger born 1884 Riga. Father's name David.

Feiga married Isaac Jacob Schneider born 1865 Latvia. Father's name
Joshua
Zelick.

They settled in Oudtshoorn SA abt 1900.

isaac herring
ike@eject.co.za


PEISEL and Heinrich Jami (Yamey) #southafrica

adam and lopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Dear Fellow Investigators, I would be grateful for any
help on the following query:

I am descended >from the JAMI family >from Lithuania.
The following is information I have in my files:

"Moses JAMI

Married Dora PEISEL. They lived in Kuliai, Lithuania.
He exported linseed and flax to Memel (now Klaipeda,
Lith.) before WW1. They had 7 children: Heinrich,
Feitel, Elsa, Kurt, Issie, Max,Sheinel.

HEINRICH JAMI

Batchelor. Lived in Budapest with maternal uncles
where they had a brewery. After WW2 came to Wolsely
from Shanghai(S. Africa) where he started a business,
A few years later he was murdered."

I assume that the "maternal uncles" mentioned above
were >from the PEISEL family. Does anyone have any
information about PEISELs involved in brewing in
Budapest prior to WW2? Or anything else in the above
extract.
please contact me at <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica PEISEL and Heinrich Jami (Yamey) #southafrica

adam and lopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Dear Fellow Investigators, I would be grateful for any
help on the following query:

I am descended >from the JAMI family >from Lithuania.
The following is information I have in my files:

"Moses JAMI

Married Dora PEISEL. They lived in Kuliai, Lithuania.
He exported linseed and flax to Memel (now Klaipeda,
Lith.) before WW1. They had 7 children: Heinrich,
Feitel, Elsa, Kurt, Issie, Max,Sheinel.

HEINRICH JAMI

Batchelor. Lived in Budapest with maternal uncles
where they had a brewery. After WW2 came to Wolsely
from Shanghai(S. Africa) where he started a business,
A few years later he was murdered."

I assume that the "maternal uncles" mentioned above
were >from the PEISEL family. Does anyone have any
information about PEISELs involved in brewing in
Budapest prior to WW2? Or anything else in the above
extract.
please contact me at <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: Pruseny, Russia #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Abel Rosenschein listed his town as Pruseny, Russia when he departed
Hamburg in 1890. His daughters listed their place of birth as Grodno
in the 1920 census. Using Where Once We walked and the Shetlfinder I
have not been able to identify the town. any help is welcome.
Vera Finberg
Fairfax, Va
Vera,

Pruseny, Russia is most probably what is known nowadays as Pruzhany,
Belarus.

WOWW provides several alternative names for this town, including Pruzhene,
Prusany and others. Pruzhany have been part of the Russia Grodno Guberniya,
when Abel Rosenschein was born there in the 19th century.

May I also suggest to add JGFF listings to your search tools located at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

When enter town search for "Pruseny" using D-M (Daitch-Mokotoff) Soundex
system, Pruzhany, Belarus will be exihibited amongst the other alternative
town names. [There are currently 156 entries for town Pruzhany, Belarus in
the JGFF database]

The very same rule (use of D-M Soundex) applies when search is conducted
through the JGFF database for the surname (family names).

When enter name Rosenschein using D-M soundex search type, the entry for
Rosenshein (note the anglicized spelling) for Izabelin, Belarus will show
up. Izabelin is located within the 50 miles distance >from Pruzhany. It
could be a match.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary. Alberta


Epstein sefardi #general

Chaim freedman
 

Leah Aharoni wrote about Ashkenazi families with Sefardi origins:
"The best example is in the introduction to Tora Temima (a Tora
commentary) Written by Rabbi EPSTEIN in Poland in the late 1800's.
There he wrote that his family is originally >from Spain.
Epstein Sephardic?? Turns out yes."

The Epstein family and the Horowitz family, both Leviim, are descended
from the Spanish Benveniste family, which, after the expulsion of the
Jews >from Spain in 1492, fled to Saloniki. Further movements took
branches of the family to many places in Europe and two distinct
sub-families arose which took the surnames Epstein and Horowitz. It
should be noted that these families, as others of Sefardi origin, merged
with the local Ashkenazi communities and did not retain their Sefardi
customs of prayer, etc.


Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/17/JewishWorld/JewishWorld.43575.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pruseny, Russia #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Abel Rosenschein listed his town as Pruseny, Russia when he departed
Hamburg in 1890. His daughters listed their place of birth as Grodno
in the 1920 census. Using Where Once We walked and the Shetlfinder I
have not been able to identify the town. any help is welcome.
Vera Finberg
Fairfax, Va
Vera,

Pruseny, Russia is most probably what is known nowadays as Pruzhany,
Belarus.

WOWW provides several alternative names for this town, including Pruzhene,
Prusany and others. Pruzhany have been part of the Russia Grodno Guberniya,
when Abel Rosenschein was born there in the 19th century.

May I also suggest to add JGFF listings to your search tools located at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/jgffweb.htm

When enter town search for "Pruseny" using D-M (Daitch-Mokotoff) Soundex
system, Pruzhany, Belarus will be exihibited amongst the other alternative
town names. [There are currently 156 entries for town Pruzhany, Belarus in
the JGFF database]

The very same rule (use of D-M Soundex) applies when search is conducted
through the JGFF database for the surname (family names).

When enter name Rosenschein using D-M soundex search type, the entry for
Rosenshein (note the anglicized spelling) for Izabelin, Belarus will show
up. Izabelin is located within the 50 miles distance >from Pruzhany. It
could be a match.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary. Alberta


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Epstein sefardi #general

Chaim freedman
 

Leah Aharoni wrote about Ashkenazi families with Sefardi origins:
"The best example is in the introduction to Tora Temima (a Tora
commentary) Written by Rabbi EPSTEIN in Poland in the late 1800's.
There he wrote that his family is originally >from Spain.
Epstein Sephardic?? Turns out yes."

The Epstein family and the Horowitz family, both Leviim, are descended
from the Spanish Benveniste family, which, after the expulsion of the
Jews >from Spain in 1492, fled to Saloniki. Further movements took
branches of the family to many places in Europe and two distinct
sub-families arose which took the surnames Epstein and Horowitz. It
should be noted that these families, as others of Sefardi origin, merged
with the local Ashkenazi communities and did not retain their Sefardi
customs of prayer, etc.


Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
email: chaimjan@zahav.net.il
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2002/02/17/JewishWorld/JewishWorld.43575.html


new addresses #lithuania

A. Cassel <acassel@...>
 

Friends and fellow Keidaners,

This is just an update and reminder, that as of March 1 both my email
address and the address of the Keidan website have changed.

For now, the Keidan site may be visited at:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acassel/keidan

And my own email address is:

acassel@comcast.net

I'm sorry for the inconvenience; it's occasioned by the bankruptcy of my
previous Internet supplier and their takeover by this new outfit. I'm
looking into obtaining a permanent web-domain address for the Keidan site --
something like www.keidan.net perhaps; I'll keep you all posted on the
progress there.

Thanks for your continued support and interest.

Andy Cassel


Keidan Jews #Keidan #Lithuania new addresses #lithuania

A. Cassel <acassel@...>
 

Friends and fellow Keidaners,

This is just an update and reminder, that as of March 1 both my email
address and the address of the Keidan website have changed.

For now, the Keidan site may be visited at:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/acassel/keidan

And my own email address is:

acassel@comcast.net

I'm sorry for the inconvenience; it's occasioned by the bankruptcy of my
previous Internet supplier and their takeover by this new outfit. I'm
looking into obtaining a permanent web-domain address for the Keidan site --
something like www.keidan.net perhaps; I'll keep you all posted on the
progress there.

Thanks for your continued support and interest.

Andy Cassel


Carp and Sephardim #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear Michael.

The Jewish people of Syria, Baghdad and India (mainly of Iraqi origin),
are not Sepharadic Jewish people, but Mizrachim (Eastern) Jewish people.

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

I remember at my wedding dinner, my best man's mother,
a Sephardi Jew with origins in India, Baghdad and Syria, ...

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Carp and Sephardim #general

Udi Cain
 

Dear Michael.

The Jewish people of Syria, Baghdad and India (mainly of Iraqi origin),
are not Sepharadic Jewish people, but Mizrachim (Eastern) Jewish people.

Best regards.
Udi Cain. Jerusalem.

I remember at my wedding dinner, my best man's mother,
a Sephardi Jew with origins in India, Baghdad and Syria, ...

Michael Bernet, New York