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Re: St. Albans District Manifest Records
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Jody Blanke <blanke_j@...>
Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest atRecords of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals My grandfather left Liverpool for New York City in 1902. His boat sunkCanadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924? at sea, and was rescued by a ship that continued on to Canada instead. I was unsuccessful searching the New York passenger lists for him, even though we knew when he arrived. It was not until I received his naturalization papers, that I learned he was officially entered in the St. Albans records, presumably because that was the first port city he encountered on the train ride >from Canada to New York. I don't know how many such occurrences there were, but there is at least one shipload of passengers that was bound for New York in 1902 that is recorded in the St. Albans manifest. Jody Blanke jody83@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: St. Albans District Manifest Records
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Jody Blanke <blanke_j@...>
Does anyone know what is contained in the St. Albans District Manifest atRecords of Aliens Arriving >from Foreign Contiguous Territory: Arrivals My grandfather left Liverpool for New York City in 1902. His boat sunkCanadian Border Ports, Jan. 1895 - June 30, 1924? at sea, and was rescued by a ship that continued on to Canada instead. I was unsuccessful searching the New York passenger lists for him, even though we knew when he arrived. It was not until I received his naturalization papers, that I learned he was officially entered in the St. Albans records, presumably because that was the first port city he encountered on the train ride >from Canada to New York. I don't know how many such occurrences there were, but there is at least one shipload of passengers that was bound for New York in 1902 that is recorded in the St. Albans manifest. Jody Blanke jody83@aol.com
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Translators needed for the JewishGen International Desk
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Susana Leistner Bloch
Dear Friends,
The Jewishgen International Desk has been a great success. We have translated and posted messages on behalf of Genners who do not speak / write English and our outreach programs in different parts of the world have helped researchers enter their surnames / towns of interest in the Jewishgen Family Finder (JGFF). Our volunteer translators are overburdened with the sheer volume of mail and need help. If you can translate >from another language to English or to another language >from English, please consider being part of our team. At the moment our most critical need is for Italian and Spanish but we do need all languages. Hope to hear >from many of you.... Regards, Susana Leistner Bloch, Project Manager JewishGen International Desk
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Translators needed for the JewishGen International Desk
#galicia
Susana Leistner Bloch
Dear Friends,
The Jewishgen International Desk has been a great success. We have translated and posted messages on behalf of Genners who do not speak / write English and our outreach programs in different parts of the world have helped researchers enter their surnames / towns of interest in the Jewishgen Family Finder (JGFF). Our volunteer translators are overburdened with the sheer volume of mail and need help. If you can translate >from another language to English or to another language >from English, please consider being part of our team. At the moment our most critical need is for Italian and Spanish but we do need all languages. Hope to hear >from many of you.... Regards, Susana Leistner Bloch, Project Manager JewishGen International Desk
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Re: St. Albans District Manifest Records
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Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@...>
Paul,
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I have had the opportunity to review the St. Alban's films and can tell you a bit about them. 1) There are two overall sections of microfilm. One has the soundex index, which has lots of information on its own, and is also the key to finding what you want on the other part. The other section has the actual passenger manifests, which are sometimes ships and sometimes trains, etc. 2) First you will need to find the soundex film that covers the part of the alphabet you are searching for. The surnames are arranged by soundex code, and then the first names are alphabetical within soundex code. The soundex will tell you (a) WHEN this person came across the border, (b) WHERE this person came across the border, and (c) which microfilm and section you need to view to find the actual passenger manifest entry. 3) Once you find the right passenger manifest film, finding the actual page you want can be tricky. It took me some time to figure out just where the actual page number was. Once I figured that out (took LOTS of cranking to figure it out), then I found the actual page with little to to problem at all. So, if anybody else can offer some pointers about what part of the film to look at to find the right page numbers, that would help [unfortunately I don't remember now]. 4) You will of course find both the soundex index and the passenger manifests in Salt Lake City; that's where I was when I viewed them -- and yes, I did find proof that my grandfather crossed through the U.S. on his way >from Montreal to Cuba. 5) You will also find the soundex index films at the New England Historical and Genealogical Society Library in Boston; I would imagine that if they have the soundex, they probably have the manifests as well. 6) They are not online anywhere that I know of, but a guide that tells you which soundex index film number you want can be found at the LDS website via the Family History Catalog. I'm sure there must be other libraries that carry this set of films; you mentioned the New York Public Library and perhaps there are others as well. But I must admit that I am confused by one thing with regard to these films. I found my husband's great-grandfather on one passenger manifest for one of the ships, and I also think I found the rest of the family on another manifest about a year later. What I do not know however is if what I was looking at was the recording of a ship landing at the Port of Quebec, where all passengers then headed south for the U.S., or whether what I was seeing was just a fraction of the true passenger list, recording only those passengers that chose to travel further south to the U.S. [In other words, I don't know if somewhere there might be yet another passenger manifest that records the actual arrival of my husband's family in the Port of Quebec >from the foreign port.] Good luck in your search, Mary D. Taffet Paul Concus wrote:
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: St. Albans District Manifest Records
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Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@...>
Paul,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I have had the opportunity to review the St. Alban's films and can tell you a bit about them. 1) There are two overall sections of microfilm. One has the soundex index, which has lots of information on its own, and is also the key to finding what you want on the other part. The other section has the actual passenger manifests, which are sometimes ships and sometimes trains, etc. 2) First you will need to find the soundex film that covers the part of the alphabet you are searching for. The surnames are arranged by soundex code, and then the first names are alphabetical within soundex code. The soundex will tell you (a) WHEN this person came across the border, (b) WHERE this person came across the border, and (c) which microfilm and section you need to view to find the actual passenger manifest entry. 3) Once you find the right passenger manifest film, finding the actual page you want can be tricky. It took me some time to figure out just where the actual page number was. Once I figured that out (took LOTS of cranking to figure it out), then I found the actual page with little to to problem at all. So, if anybody else can offer some pointers about what part of the film to look at to find the right page numbers, that would help [unfortunately I don't remember now]. 4) You will of course find both the soundex index and the passenger manifests in Salt Lake City; that's where I was when I viewed them -- and yes, I did find proof that my grandfather crossed through the U.S. on his way >from Montreal to Cuba. 5) You will also find the soundex index films at the New England Historical and Genealogical Society Library in Boston; I would imagine that if they have the soundex, they probably have the manifests as well. 6) They are not online anywhere that I know of, but a guide that tells you which soundex index film number you want can be found at the LDS website via the Family History Catalog. I'm sure there must be other libraries that carry this set of films; you mentioned the New York Public Library and perhaps there are others as well. But I must admit that I am confused by one thing with regard to these films. I found my husband's great-grandfather on one passenger manifest for one of the ships, and I also think I found the rest of the family on another manifest about a year later. What I do not know however is if what I was looking at was the recording of a ship landing at the Port of Quebec, where all passengers then headed south for the U.S., or whether what I was seeing was just a fraction of the true passenger list, recording only those passengers that chose to travel further south to the U.S. [In other words, I don't know if somewhere there might be yet another passenger manifest that records the actual arrival of my husband's family in the Port of Quebec >from the foreign port.] Good luck in your search, Mary D. Taffet Paul Concus wrote:
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Check Out Surname Lists! - There may be a surprise for you.
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Susan Stone <stonegs@...>
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I finally followed my own advice! As the Siedlce Archive Coordinator for Jewish Records Indexing - Polands' Polish State Archives Project, I have posted several messages on JewishGen and JRI-Poland lists encouraging researchers to check out surname lists. These surname lists can be accessed on the JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives status page at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/status.htm A branch of my family lived in Wegrow and Sokolow Podlaski. (respectively 42 and 52 miles ENE of Warsaw). There was no reason to think that part of the family lived far >from these towns. To my surprise, I found a few of my families (with very unusual names) listed among the surnames of Kolbiel, located 32 and 39 miles southwest of Wegrow and Sokolow Podlaski! While the surname lists for Kolbiel and many other towns are available on the JRI-Poland web site, the indices to the records have not yet been released to the database. I now will check out all the surname lists on the JRI-Poland site for my family names. Try it. You might also find the unexpected. Susan Stone New York, N.Y.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Check Out Surname Lists! - There may be a surprise for you.
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Susan Stone <stonegs@...>
Dear Fellow Researchers,
I finally followed my own advice! As the Siedlce Archive Coordinator for Jewish Records Indexing - Polands' Polish State Archives Project, I have posted several messages on JewishGen and JRI-Poland lists encouraging researchers to check out surname lists. These surname lists can be accessed on the JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives status page at http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/status.htm A branch of my family lived in Wegrow and Sokolow Podlaski. (respectively 42 and 52 miles ENE of Warsaw). There was no reason to think that part of the family lived far >from these towns. To my surprise, I found a few of my families (with very unusual names) listed among the surnames of Kolbiel, located 32 and 39 miles southwest of Wegrow and Sokolow Podlaski! While the surname lists for Kolbiel and many other towns are available on the JRI-Poland web site, the indices to the records have not yet been released to the database. I now will check out all the surname lists on the JRI-Poland site for my family names. Try it. You might also find the unexpected. Susan Stone New York, N.Y.
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Re: Biro
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Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
A friend who has considerable knowledge of the history of writing
implements told me that the ball point pen was invented by a Hungarian named BIRO and was first used by the US navy during WWII as the writing would not disappear under water. (Also, I supposed, it made sense to be able to have use of a pen for which you didn't have also to keep a supply of ink.) It was my understanding that he was a Jewish refugee living in South America when he gave the invention to the US. After the War for several years no pen manufacturer believed that there could ever be a market for such an implement and they refused to retool their factories. Many of them (including her husband's) went out of business as a consequence. In England, any ballpoint pen is called a biro in the same way that a vacuum cleaner is called a hoover. Roberta Sheps Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg,Canada) Searching: COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I), BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE: Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Biro
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Roberta Sheps <roberta.sheps@...>
A friend who has considerable knowledge of the history of writing
implements told me that the ball point pen was invented by a Hungarian named BIRO and was first used by the US navy during WWII as the writing would not disappear under water. (Also, I supposed, it made sense to be able to have use of a pen for which you didn't have also to keep a supply of ink.) It was my understanding that he was a Jewish refugee living in South America when he gave the invention to the US. After the War for several years no pen manufacturer believed that there could ever be a market for such an implement and they refused to retool their factories. Many of them (including her husband's) went out of business as a consequence. In England, any ballpoint pen is called a biro in the same way that a vacuum cleaner is called a hoover. Roberta Sheps Colchester, England (born in Winnipeg,Canada) Searching: COHEN, KLAIMON and GROSSMAN, Talna (Ukraine); BELOVITSKY(I), BELOV/BELOFF/BELL: (Popishok/Popiskes), Lithuania/ Montreal; YAFFE: Wiliez, nr Vilna/ Winnipeg/ Montreal/ North Dakotah; SHEPS, KRASNOW AND POTASHNIKOW: Odessa area
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Re: Where is Woronce, Russia?
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Stan Goodman <safeq@...>
marife@mindspring.com (marife) opined:
I have located a cousin of my grandmother who was >from Woronce, Russia. Voronezh perhaps? Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better): http://www.hashkedim.com
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Message for Judith Caplan
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MBernet@...
Can somone please send me (privately, of course) the e-mail address for
Judith Caplan who will be presenting at the Toronto conference in 3 weeks? Many thanks Michael Bernet, New York
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researching: Boris MARCUS (Chicago, 1902)
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Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
I'm looking for anyone with knowledge of a Boris MARCUS, who
was living on W. 12th Place in Chicago in 1902. He was listed as relative/destination and 'brother-in-law' on an Ellis Island ship manifest. Please reply privately to <meyers01@comcast.net> Thanks, Marty Meyers
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is Woronce, Russia?
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Stan Goodman <safeq@...>
marife@mindspring.com (marife) opined:
I have located a cousin of my grandmother who was >from Woronce, Russia. Voronezh perhaps? Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better): http://www.hashkedim.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Message for Judith Caplan
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MBernet@...
Can somone please send me (privately, of course) the e-mail address for
Judith Caplan who will be presenting at the Toronto conference in 3 weeks? Many thanks Michael Bernet, New York
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researching: Boris MARCUS (Chicago, 1902)
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Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
I'm looking for anyone with knowledge of a Boris MARCUS, who
was living on W. 12th Place in Chicago in 1902. He was listed as relative/destination and 'brother-in-law' on an Ellis Island ship manifest. Please reply privately to <meyers01@comcast.net> Thanks, Marty Meyers
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Re: Looking for roots - BIRO
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Carlos Glikson
Hello Irena, I am sorry I can't tell about the Jewish origin or not of the
BIRO family name in your particular case, but I wanted to share something with you and other JewishGenners about a BIRO with a Jewish origin.. The inventor of the ball-point pen was Ladislao Jose BIRO. A search for Mr. BIRO in Internet shows he was Hungarian, and directed a newspaper in Budapest - his birthplace. He was a Jew, and his partner helped him escape >from Paris during the war, his final destination Argentina. According to Internet search results, Mr. Biro was an artist , a hypnotist, a car racer and a very productive inventor too. He was a very creative and industrious man, and invented lots of other things - 32 different inventions. He filed the patent for the ball-point pen in Hungary in 1938, but had to escape the war before getting the patent, then started production in Argentina, and later sold the patent. A ball-point pen is popularly known here as Birome (Mr. Biro's partner's last name was Meyne). The new pen would write 200,000 words without refilling. Today BIC alone manufactures about 10.000.000 ball points a day. He also invented a mechanical automatic shift box for cars and sold it to GM. Mr. Biro was inexperienced when he negotiated the contract. Apparently, they only bought it to avoid the competition benefitting >from it. They never manufactured it, and used a hydraulic type box. He lived in Argentina, his daughter Mariana directs a school, and the Argentine Association of Inventors meets at the school's facilities. In Argentina, the Inventors' Day is celebrated on his birthday, September 29. I do not know if BIRO is a usual last name, but if you would like to get in touch with Miss Biro, let me know and I will try to get her eMail for you. Best wishes Carlos Glikson Buenos Aires, Argentina PD: Hope you will get better responses >from more knowledgeable JGenners, but in the meantime I would suggest you enter your last names and town information in the JewishGen Family Finder - if you haven't done so yet -. If you do, anyone researching the Biro name will know you are researching too, and may get in contact with you.
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Name JANCZER - is it Hungarian Jewish?
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GreGG <gregg@...>
Dear Genners,
I've got a problem with another name - the name Janczar could have been originally JANCZER - probably Hungarian Jewish but I'm not sure. Before the end of WW1 there were no Janczers in Lemberg/Lwow, in the 1930's directory there are plenty. Regards, G. Gembala
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NY Times article on Belechow
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MMBegun@...
Tomorrow's Sunday NY Times Magazine section features a wonderful,
hearfelt, and beautifully written account of a trip to Belechow, Ukraine to learn the true story about the deaths and possible betrayal of the author's great uncle and his family during the early 1940s part of the Holocaust in Belechow. It is written by Daniel Mendelsohn, who mentions the contacts he made on the "Jewish Genealogy Web site," which started him on his research of his relatives and eventually led to planning the visit to the ancestral town with 2 of his siblings. Full of details of discovery and the people they met, this is a great story. If you don't have direct access to the NY Times, you can see it on their web site: http://www.nytimes.com/ Look on the right side for "In Sunday's Times," and click on "The Magazine" which has the article as its main feature. Regards, Mila Begun in NYC
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for roots - BIRO
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Carlos Glikson
Hello Irena, I am sorry I can't tell about the Jewish origin or not of the
BIRO family name in your particular case, but I wanted to share something with you and other JewishGenners about a BIRO with a Jewish origin.. The inventor of the ball-point pen was Ladislao Jose BIRO. A search for Mr. BIRO in Internet shows he was Hungarian, and directed a newspaper in Budapest - his birthplace. He was a Jew, and his partner helped him escape >from Paris during the war, his final destination Argentina. According to Internet search results, Mr. Biro was an artist , a hypnotist, a car racer and a very productive inventor too. He was a very creative and industrious man, and invented lots of other things - 32 different inventions. He filed the patent for the ball-point pen in Hungary in 1938, but had to escape the war before getting the patent, then started production in Argentina, and later sold the patent. A ball-point pen is popularly known here as Birome (Mr. Biro's partner's last name was Meyne). The new pen would write 200,000 words without refilling. Today BIC alone manufactures about 10.000.000 ball points a day. He also invented a mechanical automatic shift box for cars and sold it to GM. Mr. Biro was inexperienced when he negotiated the contract. Apparently, they only bought it to avoid the competition benefitting >from it. They never manufactured it, and used a hydraulic type box. He lived in Argentina, his daughter Mariana directs a school, and the Argentine Association of Inventors meets at the school's facilities. In Argentina, the Inventors' Day is celebrated on his birthday, September 29. I do not know if BIRO is a usual last name, but if you would like to get in touch with Miss Biro, let me know and I will try to get her eMail for you. Best wishes Carlos Glikson Buenos Aires, Argentina PD: Hope you will get better responses >from more knowledgeable JGenners, but in the meantime I would suggest you enter your last names and town information in the JewishGen Family Finder - if you haven't done so yet -. If you do, anyone researching the Biro name will know you are researching too, and may get in contact with you.
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