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Re: Seforim in Israel #general

Stan Goodman <safeq@...>
 

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:56:54 UTC, jblu14@... (Jeff Blustein)
opined:


Were seforim generally Levites or did this not make a difference? Is
there an organization in Israel that seforim would belong to? Although
BOKSENBAUM means box tree or Carob tree, could it also be some type of
accrostic that has to do with Levites, seforim, etc? Outside of writing to
every Boksenbaum in Israel is there a more efficient way to find out if
any of them are descnded >from the soferim? Outside of changing the name
to HARUVI, is there another name this may have been Hebraicized into?

Firstly, I hope you will pardon a correction, not trivial in the present
context: *Seforim/Sefarin* means *books*, not *scribes*. The word you are
looking for is *Sofrim*. The point is that the Subject line is misleading,
so that people who might have been interested in helping with your search
may not be tempted to read your message, while others (like me) will read
it to little avail.

I can, however, tell you that scribes are not necessarily Levi'im; I do
not think there is any preponderance of Levi'im among them. My ggf, not a
Levi, was a scribe.

As for name changes, I think *H.ARUVI* is too restrictive, even as a
translation. You would have to consider names like *'ILAN* (tree),
*'ETZIONI* (not a translation, but a phonetic play on another word for
tree), and probably anything beginning with B. I don't know how many
BOKSENBAUMs there are in the Israel telephone directory, but I would
think that a letter typed on your computer, with umpty-leven copies
printed out in one fell swoop, would be your best and most economical bet.
Especially if you can send them all in envelopes to a colleague in Israel
for local mailing.

I wish I could offer advice about a guild of scribes to narrow your
search; perhaps someone else will do so.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
Although the given Reply address is a valid one, mail is retrieved
from it only infrequently. If you wish a more timely response >from me,
please visit my website (see the address just above), where you will find
my primary address. I regret any inconvenience.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seforim in Israel #general

Stan Goodman <safeq@...>
 

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:56:54 UTC, jblu14@... (Jeff Blustein)
opined:


Were seforim generally Levites or did this not make a difference? Is
there an organization in Israel that seforim would belong to? Although
BOKSENBAUM means box tree or Carob tree, could it also be some type of
accrostic that has to do with Levites, seforim, etc? Outside of writing to
every Boksenbaum in Israel is there a more efficient way to find out if
any of them are descnded >from the soferim? Outside of changing the name
to HARUVI, is there another name this may have been Hebraicized into?

Firstly, I hope you will pardon a correction, not trivial in the present
context: *Seforim/Sefarin* means *books*, not *scribes*. The word you are
looking for is *Sofrim*. The point is that the Subject line is misleading,
so that people who might have been interested in helping with your search
may not be tempted to read your message, while others (like me) will read
it to little avail.

I can, however, tell you that scribes are not necessarily Levi'im; I do
not think there is any preponderance of Levi'im among them. My ggf, not a
Levi, was a scribe.

As for name changes, I think *H.ARUVI* is too restrictive, even as a
translation. You would have to consider names like *'ILAN* (tree),
*'ETZIONI* (not a translation, but a phonetic play on another word for
tree), and probably anything beginning with B. I don't know how many
BOKSENBAUMs there are in the Israel telephone directory, but I would
think that a letter typed on your computer, with umpty-leven copies
printed out in one fell swoop, would be your best and most economical bet.
Especially if you can send them all in envelopes to a colleague in Israel
for local mailing.

I wish I could offer advice about a guild of scribes to narrow your
search; perhaps someone else will do so.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, ROKITA: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better):
http://www.hashkedim.com
Although the given Reply address is a valid one, mail is retrieved
from it only infrequently. If you wish a more timely response >from me,
please visit my website (see the address just above), where you will find
my primary address. I regret any inconvenience.
Tsipa or Josif BERLATCHI from Baltsi, Romania #general

Suzy Lampert <suzylampert@...>
 

Shalom:

from the Ellis Island database, I found 2 people with the same last name
(and >from the same country) as my grandfather's family, all of whom
disappeared during the Holocaust. The names on the database are:

Tsipa BERLTACHI
From: Baltsi, Romania
Date of Arrival in US: April 5, 1921
Marital Status: Single
Age Upon Arrival: 22
Ship of Travel: Kroonland
Point Of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium

Josif BERLATCHI
Same information, except age is 9 months old

If anyone knows of these people, would you please contact me?

Thank you.


Suzy Lampert
Dallas, Texas USA
suzylampert@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tsipa or Josif BERLATCHI from Baltsi, Romania #general

Suzy Lampert <suzylampert@...>
 

Shalom:

from the Ellis Island database, I found 2 people with the same last name
(and >from the same country) as my grandfather's family, all of whom
disappeared during the Holocaust. The names on the database are:

Tsipa BERLTACHI
From: Baltsi, Romania
Date of Arrival in US: April 5, 1921
Marital Status: Single
Age Upon Arrival: 22
Ship of Travel: Kroonland
Point Of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium

Josif BERLATCHI
Same information, except age is 9 months old

If anyone knows of these people, would you please contact me?

Thank you.


Suzy Lampert
Dallas, Texas USA
suzylampert@...
Where do I go from here? #general

waldingerz <epic@...>
 

I am reasearching ZARCHIN and all of its variants. Jewish Gen has been
instrumental in my education of records researching.
One thing is clear: I received a document that lists this name (ZARKHIN)
as showing up fro the first time in 1834 in Belarus. The newest family
story says that before Belarus, we were in Germany. I am assuming that
the name was only official in 1834 in Belarus and that it might have been
around in some wya, shape or form.

I haven't the slightest idea how to research Germany previous to 1834.
Help!!!

ASW
http://waldinger.net
http://zarchin.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where do I go from here? #general

waldingerz <epic@...>
 

I am reasearching ZARCHIN and all of its variants. Jewish Gen has been
instrumental in my education of records researching.
One thing is clear: I received a document that lists this name (ZARKHIN)
as showing up fro the first time in 1834 in Belarus. The newest family
story says that before Belarus, we were in Germany. I am assuming that
the name was only official in 1834 in Belarus and that it might have been
around in some wya, shape or form.

I haven't the slightest idea how to research Germany previous to 1834.
Help!!!

ASW
http://waldinger.net
http://zarchin.com
Manhattan Naturalization: 1896-1900 #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

Could someone please tell me how I would obtain my g.g.grandfather's
naturalization >from Manhattan? It would have taken place between 1896-
1900, and his name was Hyman SILVER. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown
Looking for SIGAL #general

Alex S <vil@...>
 

Hello Genners,

I am looking for any information on the SIGAL family whose members
emmigrated to Argentina, possibly Mexico and United States (New York) from
Vinnitza, Ukraine sometime between 1910 and 1929. Any information would
be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Alex Sigal
vil@...
NY Telephone Directories after 1934 #general

Carol Raspler
 

Sorry All: My posting about NY City directories after 1934 should have
read telephone directories.

So again, Is the NYPL the only place to view these? If so, can you suggest
methods for an out-of-towner - other than the Library's search system
(which is prohibitively expensive)? I will trade for local Florida look-
ups.

Thanks, Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Manhattan Naturalization: 1896-1900 #general

Josh Brown <gettysburg63@...>
 

Hello:

Could someone please tell me how I would obtain my g.g.grandfather's
naturalization >from Manhattan? It would have taken place between 1896-
1900, and his name was Hyman SILVER. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks,
Josh Brown
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for SIGAL #general

Alex S <vil@...>
 

Hello Genners,

I am looking for any information on the SIGAL family whose members
emmigrated to Argentina, possibly Mexico and United States (New York) from
Vinnitza, Ukraine sometime between 1910 and 1929. Any information would
be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Alex Sigal
vil@...
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY Telephone Directories after 1934 #general

Carol Raspler
 

Sorry All: My posting about NY City directories after 1934 should have
read telephone directories.

So again, Is the NYPL the only place to view these? If so, can you suggest
methods for an out-of-towner - other than the Library's search system
(which is prohibitively expensive)? I will trade for local Florida look-
ups.

Thanks, Carol Raspler, Delray Beach, FL
SAFED CEMETERY #hungary

Amira <amira_m@...>
 

To all genners,
Some weeks ago I got a massege about Sefad old cemetery, I thought it might
interest those of you who are looking for roots in Sefad [Israel].

Great strides are being made in providing vital historical and genealogical
information and making it available on line. First I am happy to announce
that the Safed Old cemetery Survey List (in Hebrew and English), originally
paid for by the Safed Rabbinical Council and recently translated thanks to
the efforts of the Safed Foundation, is now available to search on line on
our Safed Foundation Website. This listing of over 3000 names >from the 15th
century through the 20th century includes all legible grave
stone name inscriptions >from the Old(upper) Jewish Cemetery, one of the
oldest continuously used Jewish Cemeteries in the world. Included are
available details (name,father's name, dates etc.) as well as the location
of the grave. In our desire to bring this information to you as soon as
possible we have brought you a work in progress and would greatly appreciate
your feedback to guide us in bringing you more such information in the
future. It can be found at our Website:
www.safedfound.org.il
go to ancient cemetery (in the list on the left of your screen) and click
then click "search tombstone list" you will see hints and a disclaimer, type
in the search box the name or part of the name to search for and click
search good luck with your search If you have any problems or questions
please feel free to contact me. haim@...


In addition to further research and editing of the Cemetery List there are
several other projects in the 'pipeline'. A survey of historical/
genealogical materials available in and about Safed is being taken and will
be indexed shortly and placed on line. A collection of birth records and
birth registrations >from the 19th and early 20th century has been located
and translated (about 1200 names) and is being prepared to be put on line by
the fall. A short list of births >from October 1927 to January 1930 is
ready and will be available shortly. Many more exciting things are planned.
We will keep you informed. We greatly appreciate your input and your
support.
The Safed Foundation is a non-profit, tax deductible
(in the USA) foundation dedicated to the development of Safed.

yours, Haim Sidor Coordinator of the Safed Foundation Genealogical Project.

Amira M. [Israel]. Searching: KRUVAND - Lithuania. STEIN - Slovakia,
Philadelphia USA .
Dubovic - Slovakia & Hungary. LEVINE - USA.
Hungary SIG #Hungary SAFED CEMETERY #hungary

Amira <amira_m@...>
 

To all genners,
Some weeks ago I got a massege about Sefad old cemetery, I thought it might
interest those of you who are looking for roots in Sefad [Israel].

Great strides are being made in providing vital historical and genealogical
information and making it available on line. First I am happy to announce
that the Safed Old cemetery Survey List (in Hebrew and English), originally
paid for by the Safed Rabbinical Council and recently translated thanks to
the efforts of the Safed Foundation, is now available to search on line on
our Safed Foundation Website. This listing of over 3000 names >from the 15th
century through the 20th century includes all legible grave
stone name inscriptions >from the Old(upper) Jewish Cemetery, one of the
oldest continuously used Jewish Cemeteries in the world. Included are
available details (name,father's name, dates etc.) as well as the location
of the grave. In our desire to bring this information to you as soon as
possible we have brought you a work in progress and would greatly appreciate
your feedback to guide us in bringing you more such information in the
future. It can be found at our Website:
www.safedfound.org.il
go to ancient cemetery (in the list on the left of your screen) and click
then click "search tombstone list" you will see hints and a disclaimer, type
in the search box the name or part of the name to search for and click
search good luck with your search If you have any problems or questions
please feel free to contact me. haim@...


In addition to further research and editing of the Cemetery List there are
several other projects in the 'pipeline'. A survey of historical/
genealogical materials available in and about Safed is being taken and will
be indexed shortly and placed on line. A collection of birth records and
birth registrations >from the 19th and early 20th century has been located
and translated (about 1200 names) and is being prepared to be put on line by
the fall. A short list of births >from October 1927 to January 1930 is
ready and will be available shortly. Many more exciting things are planned.
We will keep you informed. We greatly appreciate your input and your
support.
The Safed Foundation is a non-profit, tax deductible
(in the USA) foundation dedicated to the development of Safed.

yours, Haim Sidor Coordinator of the Safed Foundation Genealogical Project.

Amira M. [Israel]. Searching: KRUVAND - Lithuania. STEIN - Slovakia,
Philadelphia USA .
Dubovic - Slovakia & Hungary. LEVINE - USA.
FHL Offices in Israel ? #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Hi fellow SIGers,

Does anyone know if there're FHL offices in Israel ?
If not, is there another way to get the LDS records in Israel ?


Thanks,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel


Moderator: Unfortunately, for reason that are too complicated to explain here, there are no Family History Library Branches in Israel. Given that there are many unique resources available in Israel, I suggest that you use this forum to ask those with easy access to FHL branches to help with your research. In exchange, perhaps you can offer to help with research at Yad Vashem, the Central Archives, or other important sources.
Hungary SIG #Hungary FHL Offices in Israel ? #hungary

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Hi fellow SIGers,

Does anyone know if there're FHL offices in Israel ?
If not, is there another way to get the LDS records in Israel ?


Thanks,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel


Moderator: Unfortunately, for reason that are too complicated to explain here, there are no Family History Library Branches in Israel. Given that there are many unique resources available in Israel, I suggest that you use this forum to ask those with easy access to FHL branches to help with your research. In exchange, perhaps you can offer to help with research at Yad Vashem, the Central Archives, or other important sources.
Translation #hungary

David Rozendorn <globewest@...>
 

Dear List,

Someone (I think >from Croatia) sent me a Hebrew document which I offered to
translate. I am having it done as I write. Unfortunately I have misplaced
addressee. Can you please email me back and let me know where I return it
to. The document was called Hebrejskidoc[1].Pozega.
Two copies were downloaded. The hotmail document had the right hand side
missing. I received the zipped file perfectly.

The translation will be completed ASAP by an Orthodox Sofer here in
Melbourne. They were very obliging. Apparently the writing is a mix of
Aramaic, Hebrew and Yiddish and written about 100 years ago. It's very
interesting.

Please, I hope whoever sent it to me gets this message and I can send the
translation back to you.

Moderator: Perhaps you can help?

From
Kathy Rozendorn. @ @
#
\_____/



_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Hungary SIG #Hungary Translation #hungary

David Rozendorn <globewest@...>
 

Dear List,

Someone (I think >from Croatia) sent me a Hebrew document which I offered to
translate. I am having it done as I write. Unfortunately I have misplaced
addressee. Can you please email me back and let me know where I return it
to. The document was called Hebrejskidoc[1].Pozega.
Two copies were downloaded. The hotmail document had the right hand side
missing. I received the zipped file perfectly.

The translation will be completed ASAP by an Orthodox Sofer here in
Melbourne. They were very obliging. Apparently the writing is a mix of
Aramaic, Hebrew and Yiddish and written about 100 years ago. It's very
interesting.

Please, I hope whoever sent it to me gets this message and I can send the
translation back to you.

Moderator: Perhaps you can help?

From
Kathy Rozendorn. @ @
#
\_____/



_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
GOOGLE.COM & SSDI to search for relatives #lithuania

elaine cohen <elaineco@...>
 

This email is in response to Amira's letter asking for help in
searching for relatives in the US. I recommend the following:

1. Name search on GOOGLE.COM

2. Name & telephone search on YAHOO

3 Name search on SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX

Amira mentioned Dr. Fredeick Levine. I put his name on Google and up came
his work address & phone number, email, professional information, etc.
They even corrected my spelling of his first name. I then called the phone
number to make sure it was correct and to verify the email address listed on the internet. All this took 5 minutes.

Thank you, Elaine Cohen, Los Angeles

MODERATOR'S NOTE: More information on the US Social Security Death Index can be found at <www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/us-ssa.txt>
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania GOOGLE.COM & SSDI to search for relatives #lithuania

elaine cohen <elaineco@...>
 

This email is in response to Amira's letter asking for help in
searching for relatives in the US. I recommend the following:

1. Name search on GOOGLE.COM

2. Name & telephone search on YAHOO

3 Name search on SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX

Amira mentioned Dr. Fredeick Levine. I put his name on Google and up came
his work address & phone number, email, professional information, etc.
They even corrected my spelling of his first name. I then called the phone
number to make sure it was correct and to verify the email address listed on the internet. All this took 5 minutes.

Thank you, Elaine Cohen, Los Angeles

MODERATOR'S NOTE: More information on the US Social Security Death Index can be found at <www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/us-ssa.txt>
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