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Americanisation of Hebrew Names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Can anyone help with name changes?

I have traced family with the names Moritz, Nechame, Rifka, Yirl,
Sima and Naftali.

Moritz became Morris.

Nechame is a mystery - I have been advised it could have been changed
to Nettie?

Rifka became Beckie.

Yirl is a mystery.

Sima - I have been advised it could have been changed to Pearl, Celia
or Sylvia?

Naftali - is a mystery.

Any ideas would be most welcome.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

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Looking for GUREVICH #general

e-jbonkes <e-jbonkes@...>
 

Hello Genners
I have posted this before, but will give it another try.

Looking for relatives of my late Gm.Born in Divinsk Latvia.

Her name was Rachel Stem (nee Gurevich,Horowitz). She had a Brother
that lived at 1330 S Springfield Ave Chicago in the year 1920. I
dont know how many other Brothers she had,but one had the nick name
peanuts!! It is also possible that she had a Sister living in the
U.S.A.

So somewhere in the U.S.A. I have some long lost relatives. Anxiously
waiting for news.

Edna Bonkes (nee Stem)
B.C. Canada.


researching: LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN from Vilna area #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I've recently found that my great-grandmother Feiga (FINBERG) LANDSMAN
came to Boston >from Vilna in 1921. I also learned that my great-
grandfather Avraham LANDSMAN died in Vilna around 1916 (a 90 year old
cousin just told me, on a recent trip to Massachusetts, that he
remembers being 4 years old when his father learned of Avraham's death).

Most interesting is that I also learned, after obtaining Feiga's death
certificate in Boston, that her parents were Eliayahu/Eli (tombstone/
death certificate) and Ida (don't know hebrew name yet).

Almost all the records (her children's marriages) list her maiden name
as FINBERG. However, two records (both of which were recorded by my
father's uncle Louis) show her maiden name as PEANEN or PINAN. All the
records associated with marriages by siblings of Louis (including my
grandmother's marriage certificate) show the name as FINBERG.

I have a few questions:

1. Anyone familiar with these people?
2. Is there any equivalence between FINBERG and PEANEN (phonetically
into yiddish or some other way)?
3. If Avraham LANDSMAN died in 1916 in Vilna, would there be a record
in Lithuania?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@... >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers


Finding Grave in Holyoke #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

Fran Segall writes:
=I am trying to locate the grave of a cousin, Isaac BROUDY, who died
=in Holyoke, Mass. in 1931. His death certificate says "Fairview -
=Chicopee" for the location of the burial. There is a Fairview Cemetery
=in Chicopee (a town near Holyoke), but it is not a Jewish cemetery.

In small towns, there may not be a separate Jewish cemetary. For
example, my son is buried in a city cemetary in South Carolina, which
has only a Jewish section.

You may want to inquire whether that is the case in Chicopee, which is
rather small. Since they file their records by plot owner rather than
deceased, you might consider giving them the names of survivors who
might have made the arrangements.

I hope this helps.

Please Note: I have modified my "reply to" address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, use the following address:
jeanne4_98 at yahoo.com.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATIS/SLATIS, SANCTON/SANKTIN/SENKTIN,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, PASSIN, WEINGER/WENGER--Belarus, Lithuania,
Russia, USA


Marina del Ray California #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

My Marina del Ray problem was solved. Thanks to all who offered to
help and all who considered doing so.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Americanisation of Hebrew Names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Can anyone help with name changes?

I have traced family with the names Moritz, Nechame, Rifka, Yirl,
Sima and Naftali.

Moritz became Morris.

Nechame is a mystery - I have been advised it could have been changed
to Nettie?

Rifka became Beckie.

Yirl is a mystery.

Sima - I have been advised it could have been changed to Pearl, Celia
or Sylvia?

Naftali - is a mystery.

Any ideas would be most welcome.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

MODERATOR NOTE: You can check the JewishGen Archives for previous
discussions of this topic; to search the Archives, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
Additional information about Jewish given names may be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html#Names and in JewishGen's
Given Names Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for GUREVICH #general

e-jbonkes <e-jbonkes@...>
 

Hello Genners
I have posted this before, but will give it another try.

Looking for relatives of my late Gm.Born in Divinsk Latvia.

Her name was Rachel Stem (nee Gurevich,Horowitz). She had a Brother
that lived at 1330 S Springfield Ave Chicago in the year 1920. I
dont know how many other Brothers she had,but one had the nick name
peanuts!! It is also possible that she had a Sister living in the
U.S.A.

So somewhere in the U.S.A. I have some long lost relatives. Anxiously
waiting for news.

Edna Bonkes (nee Stem)
B.C. Canada.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researching: LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN from Vilna area #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I've recently found that my great-grandmother Feiga (FINBERG) LANDSMAN
came to Boston >from Vilna in 1921. I also learned that my great-
grandfather Avraham LANDSMAN died in Vilna around 1916 (a 90 year old
cousin just told me, on a recent trip to Massachusetts, that he
remembers being 4 years old when his father learned of Avraham's death).

Most interesting is that I also learned, after obtaining Feiga's death
certificate in Boston, that her parents were Eliayahu/Eli (tombstone/
death certificate) and Ida (don't know hebrew name yet).

Almost all the records (her children's marriages) list her maiden name
as FINBERG. However, two records (both of which were recorded by my
father's uncle Louis) show her maiden name as PEANEN or PINAN. All the
records associated with marriages by siblings of Louis (including my
grandmother's marriage certificate) show the name as FINBERG.

I have a few questions:

1. Anyone familiar with these people?
2. Is there any equivalence between FINBERG and PEANEN (phonetically
into yiddish or some other way)?
3. If Avraham LANDSMAN died in 1916 in Vilna, would there be a record
in Lithuania?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@... >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Grave in Holyoke #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

Fran Segall writes:
=I am trying to locate the grave of a cousin, Isaac BROUDY, who died
=in Holyoke, Mass. in 1931. His death certificate says "Fairview -
=Chicopee" for the location of the burial. There is a Fairview Cemetery
=in Chicopee (a town near Holyoke), but it is not a Jewish cemetery.

In small towns, there may not be a separate Jewish cemetary. For
example, my son is buried in a city cemetary in South Carolina, which
has only a Jewish section.

You may want to inquire whether that is the case in Chicopee, which is
rather small. Since they file their records by plot owner rather than
deceased, you might consider giving them the names of survivors who
might have made the arrangements.

I hope this helps.

Please Note: I have modified my "reply to" address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, use the following address:
jeanne4_98 at yahoo.com.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATIS/SLATIS, SANCTON/SANKTIN/SENKTIN,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, PASSIN, WEINGER/WENGER--Belarus, Lithuania,
Russia, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marina del Ray California #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

My Marina del Ray problem was solved. Thanks to all who offered to
help and all who considered doing so.

Israel Pickholtz


Re: French naturalization #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records
Aubrey Jacobus
===== It depends of the date of naturalisation.
For 1814-1853 go to:
http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/arn/
and ask for "naturalisations".
Then ask for the name you want. It gives you all the informations
(decree ref., date etc.) so that you can ask for the file to the
National Archives Library (CARAN).

For 1900-1950 there is a CDRom wich gives references for the file (but
public access to the file only untill 1940, after this date you must
ask for a derogation). The CGJ has this CDRom.

from 1853 to 1900, it is more difficult and you must come to France
(or find someone in France to help you) and search for the decree
in "Bulletin des Lois" or you can try a minitel site (3617 Archivis).
It is quite expensive, but it gives you all the informations in order
to ask the file.

When you have all the informations, If you can come to France to see
the file directly, you must ask for it to CARAN, (11 rue des 4 fils,
75004 Paris) either directly, either by a letter. It will take 2 or 3
weeks to obtain it and they will write to inform you when it will be
waiting for you.

If you cannot come to France, then write to :
Service de Reprographie, 60 rue des Francs Bourgeois, 75141 Paris
Cedex 03
give them the references of the file and ask if it is possible to
obtain a copy, what kind of copy (probably microfilm), and how much
it will cost. It will take some days before they answer, but usually
they do it.

Also, for the period 1814-1900, there is a possibility I can give
you informations (I have notes concerning 1200 naturalization files
for this period)

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ (Paris, France)
www.genealoj.org


"Farible" Explained (Yes, its Yiddish) #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello everyone,

Farible is a grudge, often used by Jews >from Lithuania and is found
in older Yiddish dictionaries.

Thanks to all who contributed.

-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@...
www.rechtman.com
www.rechtman.info


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: French naturalization #general

Lifshitz-Krams Anne
 

Can anyone tell me how to search for French Naturalization records
Aubrey Jacobus
===== It depends of the date of naturalisation.
For 1814-1853 go to:
http://www.archivesnationales.culture.gouv.fr/arn/
and ask for "naturalisations".
Then ask for the name you want. It gives you all the informations
(decree ref., date etc.) so that you can ask for the file to the
National Archives Library (CARAN).

For 1900-1950 there is a CDRom wich gives references for the file (but
public access to the file only untill 1940, after this date you must
ask for a derogation). The CGJ has this CDRom.

from 1853 to 1900, it is more difficult and you must come to France
(or find someone in France to help you) and search for the decree
in "Bulletin des Lois" or you can try a minitel site (3617 Archivis).
It is quite expensive, but it gives you all the informations in order
to ask the file.

When you have all the informations, If you can come to France to see
the file directly, you must ask for it to CARAN, (11 rue des 4 fils,
75004 Paris) either directly, either by a letter. It will take 2 or 3
weeks to obtain it and they will write to inform you when it will be
waiting for you.

If you cannot come to France, then write to :
Service de Reprographie, 60 rue des Francs Bourgeois, 75141 Paris
Cedex 03
give them the references of the file and ask if it is possible to
obtain a copy, what kind of copy (probably microfilm), and how much
it will cost. It will take some days before they answer, but usually
they do it.

Also, for the period 1814-1900, there is a possibility I can give
you informations (I have notes concerning 1200 naturalization files
for this period)

Anne Lifshitz-Krams
CGJ (Paris, France)
www.genealoj.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen "Farible" Explained (Yes, its Yiddish) #general

Yigal Rechtman <rechtman@...>
 

Hello everyone,

Farible is a grudge, often used by Jews >from Lithuania and is found
in older Yiddish dictionaries.

Thanks to all who contributed.

-Yigal Rechtman
rechtman@...
www.rechtman.com
www.rechtman.info


Re: Why the name change? #general

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

We can drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out names; first and
last - English and Hebrew.

My ggf's (Simon Greenberg) Hebrew name was Shlomo and I have reason
to believe he took the English equivalent - Solomon - in the U.S.
before going with Simon.

On my gf's (Harry) Newark, NJ birth certificate - assuming it's his
- his first name is listed as Ammil. But he was *always* Harry! (my
gf missed his DOB by two days on his WWI draft card).

And in Simon's obit, my gf is listed as Aaron - and he was about 38
at the time!

I think these name changes, discrepancy's and contradictions are just
part of the conspiracy our ancestors undertook to keep us guessing.

Steve Gabai

Researching:
ABOUAF, ABRAMS (NYC), ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI -
GABAY), GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY),
SCHRAPATZ (SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO


Leica and the Freedom Train #general

Linda D.Epstein <lepstein@...>
 

Anyone interested in the contact info, I would be happy to pass
along.

In the current issue of the Leica Historical Society's quarterly
journal, "Viewfinder" there is a fascinating article ("About Leica
Cameras and The Freedom Train"). The "Freedom Train", was a creation
of the Leitz family, founders and controlling shareholders of the
Leica camera business in Germany. At the outset of the Nazi era in
the mid 30's, the family, who were Protestant, staunch anti-Nazis,
and members of the then liberal (small L) Democratic Party of Germany,
had no illusions as to what was up. They devised a clever scheme to
extricate their Jewish employees, and later the Jews of Wetzlar, and
still later other Jewish families in the communities around Wetzlar.

Mr. Leitz went to the Nazis with a proposal to substantially increase
the sales of Leica products throughout the world. To do so, he would
need to send factory trained Leica employee-technicians abroad to
support local Leica dealers. What the German government did not know
was that the new Leica reps would be members of the Jewish community
in the Wetzlar area. The Nazis, wishing to earn hard currency, eagerly
approved the program, and Leitz was able emigrate at least 200-300
members of the community into the United States alone. Many others
were extricated elsewhere, but the total has never been established.

The Leitz family, fearing retribution in postwar Germany >from neo-Nazis,
declined to allow the story to be told, and withheld the story >from
publication until all Leitz figures involved in the subterfuge had
gone on to the great photo-shoot in the sky. They are all now gone,
and in the last three years, two journals of modest circulation have
detailed this story: one by a Rabbi Frank Dabba Smith in a 1998 article
in a journal of the Reformed Jewish movement in England; the other by
Norman C. Lipton in Photo International, an English language publication
printed in Tokyo. Smith's essay will be published this spring by the
American Photographic Historical Society, 1150 Avenue of the Americas,
New York 10036.

In the meantime, the principal author of that study, George Gilbert,
would appreciate any information >from anyone knowing members of the
Leica "Freedom Train", their descendants, relatives and friends.

Linda D. Epstein -lepstein@...
TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US
*** WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Why the name change? #general

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

We can drive ourselves crazy trying to figure out names; first and
last - English and Hebrew.

My ggf's (Simon Greenberg) Hebrew name was Shlomo and I have reason
to believe he took the English equivalent - Solomon - in the U.S.
before going with Simon.

On my gf's (Harry) Newark, NJ birth certificate - assuming it's his
- his first name is listed as Ammil. But he was *always* Harry! (my
gf missed his DOB by two days on his WWI draft card).

And in Simon's obit, my gf is listed as Aaron - and he was about 38
at the time!

I think these name changes, discrepancy's and contradictions are just
part of the conspiracy our ancestors undertook to keep us guessing.

Steve Gabai

Researching:
ABOUAF, ABRAMS (NYC), ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI -
GABAY), GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY),
SCHRAPATZ (SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Leica and the Freedom Train #general

Linda D.Epstein <lepstein@...>
 

Anyone interested in the contact info, I would be happy to pass
along.

In the current issue of the Leica Historical Society's quarterly
journal, "Viewfinder" there is a fascinating article ("About Leica
Cameras and The Freedom Train"). The "Freedom Train", was a creation
of the Leitz family, founders and controlling shareholders of the
Leica camera business in Germany. At the outset of the Nazi era in
the mid 30's, the family, who were Protestant, staunch anti-Nazis,
and members of the then liberal (small L) Democratic Party of Germany,
had no illusions as to what was up. They devised a clever scheme to
extricate their Jewish employees, and later the Jews of Wetzlar, and
still later other Jewish families in the communities around Wetzlar.

Mr. Leitz went to the Nazis with a proposal to substantially increase
the sales of Leica products throughout the world. To do so, he would
need to send factory trained Leica employee-technicians abroad to
support local Leica dealers. What the German government did not know
was that the new Leica reps would be members of the Jewish community
in the Wetzlar area. The Nazis, wishing to earn hard currency, eagerly
approved the program, and Leitz was able emigrate at least 200-300
members of the community into the United States alone. Many others
were extricated elsewhere, but the total has never been established.

The Leitz family, fearing retribution in postwar Germany >from neo-Nazis,
declined to allow the story to be told, and withheld the story >from
publication until all Leitz figures involved in the subterfuge had
gone on to the great photo-shoot in the sky. They are all now gone,
and in the last three years, two journals of modest circulation have
detailed this story: one by a Rabbi Frank Dabba Smith in a 1998 article
in a journal of the Reformed Jewish movement in England; the other by
Norman C. Lipton in Photo International, an English language publication
printed in Tokyo. Smith's essay will be published this spring by the
American Photographic Historical Society, 1150 Avenue of the Americas,
New York 10036.

In the meantime, the principal author of that study, George Gilbert,
would appreciate any information >from anyone knowing members of the
Leica "Freedom Train", their descendants, relatives and friends.

Linda D. Epstein -lepstein@...
TIKOTZINSKI/EPSTEIN: Sokolka, Grodno---> Elmira, NY ***
SPUND/MORRIS/SHAPIRO: Minsk ---> Washington, DC and Chicago, IL ***
WEINSTEIN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> Israel and NYC, US ***
SAFFIAN/SAFIAN: Makow, Poland, (Lomza Gubernia) ---> LA, CA, NYC, US
*** WOLFOWICH: Krinky, Grodno ***GROSSMAN: RUSSIA ---> Utica, NY


A DENTIST, IN WINDHOEK? #southafrica

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Gustav GINSBERG(1873-1920s, probably 1922) was a
brother of my great-grand-father Senator Franz
GINSBERG.
He was a dentist and his place of residence was
Windhoek, South West Africa.

He was married to a pianist Edith MENDELSSOHN who left
South Africa and died in the USA.

I would like to know more about both of these people.

Does anyone have any directories or handbooks with
information about Windhoek during the period in which
Gustav was alive? If so is there any mention in them
of dentists in this town?

Well, any information about either of these two people
would be of great interest to me.

Thank you, Adam Yamey,London, UK<adamandlopa@...>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica A DENTIST, IN WINDHOEK? #southafrica

adamandlopa yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Gustav GINSBERG(1873-1920s, probably 1922) was a
brother of my great-grand-father Senator Franz
GINSBERG.
He was a dentist and his place of residence was
Windhoek, South West Africa.

He was married to a pianist Edith MENDELSSOHN who left
South Africa and died in the USA.

I would like to know more about both of these people.

Does anyone have any directories or handbooks with
information about Windhoek during the period in which
Gustav was alive? If so is there any mention in them
of dentists in this town?

Well, any information about either of these two people
would be of great interest to me.

Thank you, Adam Yamey,London, UK<adamandlopa@...>