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Kashruth in Steerage #general

sanvic366@...
 

Does anyone know how and what steerage passenger were fed during
trans-atlantic crossings? I am especially interested if it was
possible to observe kashruth.
Victor Singer, New York


Re: Pregnant women immigrants #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Someone had written in earlier in the summer questioning pregnant women
and infants traveling to America and asserted that children under 18
months were not permitted.

While there were some anecdotal replies I decided to do a quick search
of the Ellis Island Data Base using the Moorse program. On the first
letter "S" for the last name and age 0 to 1 I got no less than over
37,000 names -- and that was just one letter of the alphabet. Hence I
think it is pretty safe to say immigrant with infants was not all that
uncommon through Ellis Island. What's more I scanned the names on the
first page and saw many >from 1900 or earlier.

Hope that helps in the answer to the question.

Regards,

Allan Jordan
aejordan@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kashruth in Steerage #general

sanvic366@...
 

Does anyone know how and what steerage passenger were fed during
trans-atlantic crossings? I am especially interested if it was
possible to observe kashruth.
Victor Singer, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pregnant women immigrants #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Someone had written in earlier in the summer questioning pregnant women
and infants traveling to America and asserted that children under 18
months were not permitted.

While there were some anecdotal replies I decided to do a quick search
of the Ellis Island Data Base using the Moorse program. On the first
letter "S" for the last name and age 0 to 1 I got no less than over
37,000 names -- and that was just one letter of the alphabet. Hence I
think it is pretty safe to say immigrant with infants was not all that
uncommon through Ellis Island. What's more I scanned the names on the
first page and saw many >from 1900 or earlier.

Hope that helps in the answer to the question.

Regards,

Allan Jordan
aejordan@...


Records in the Lithuanian Archives #general

Howard Margol
 

The most current list of records stored in the Lithuanian Archives,
as well as those records for Belarus and the Ukraine, can be found on
Miriam Weiner's web site < http://www.rtrfoundation.org >. Printed
lists, once they are printed, cannot be updated. However, Miriam's
lists on her web site can be updated as often as necessary. I highly
recommend the use of http://www.rtrfoundation.org/

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...
Researching; MARGOLIS - ZUK >from Pusalotas. BERNSTEIN >from Linkuva.
Klavansky >from Pakroujis - all in Lithuania.


Mordecai -> Marcus -> Max (plus Marks and Marx) #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/11/2002 1:04:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lbw@... writes:

<< We only found out recently that my grandfather's name was not Max,
but Markus. We did find that on his naturalization papers the name
was listed Max (Markus). He decided he wanted his name to be more
"American" and would yell at anyone in the family who occasionally
used "Markus"! >>

This is a very common progression. In the 19th century, boys with
the Hebrew name Mordecai were frequently given the "civil" name of
Mark/Marcus (whence also the family names Marks and Marx). In the
early 20th century, there was a tendency to replace the name Marcus
with Max. I guess Murray, Marvin, Morton and Montmorency are all in
line to produce new "M" names.

I have a cousin born in the UK in the 11930s and now resident in
Germany, who currently uses all three more-or-less simultaneously.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Re: 1880 Canada To North Dakota: Hope floats! #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Canada to North Dakota: You may hold the golden key.
...
Do you know of where I might find a listing of ships carrying
passengers >from through Canada to a North Dakota port in 1880 or
thereabouts?
You could take a boat up the Red River >from Winnipeg, but how would
you get to Winnipeg? The most likely way for an immigrant to get
to North Dakota through Canada around 1880 might be to take a ship
through the Great Lakes >from southern Ontario to Duluth, and then a
train to North Dakota. Or possibly he originally settled in Western
Canada and later moved to North Dakota.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Records in the Lithuanian Archives #general

Howard Margol
 

The most current list of records stored in the Lithuanian Archives,
as well as those records for Belarus and the Ukraine, can be found on
Miriam Weiner's web site < http://www.rtrfoundation.org >. Printed
lists, once they are printed, cannot be updated. However, Miriam's
lists on her web site can be updated as often as necessary. I highly
recommend the use of http://www.rtrfoundation.org/

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...
Researching; MARGOLIS - ZUK >from Pusalotas. BERNSTEIN >from Linkuva.
Klavansky >from Pakroujis - all in Lithuania.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mordecai -> Marcus -> Max (plus Marks and Marx) #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 8/11/2002 1:04:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lbw@... writes:

<< We only found out recently that my grandfather's name was not Max,
but Markus. We did find that on his naturalization papers the name
was listed Max (Markus). He decided he wanted his name to be more
"American" and would yell at anyone in the family who occasionally
used "Markus"! >>

This is a very common progression. In the 19th century, boys with
the Hebrew name Mordecai were frequently given the "civil" name of
Mark/Marcus (whence also the family names Marks and Marx). In the
early 20th century, there was a tendency to replace the name Marcus
with Max. I guess Murray, Marvin, Morton and Montmorency are all in
line to produce new "M" names.

I have a cousin born in the UK in the 11930s and now resident in
Germany, who currently uses all three more-or-less simultaneously.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@...>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1880 Canada To North Dakota: Hope floats! #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

Canada to North Dakota: You may hold the golden key.
...
Do you know of where I might find a listing of ships carrying
passengers >from through Canada to a North Dakota port in 1880 or
thereabouts?
You could take a boat up the Red River >from Winnipeg, but how would
you get to Winnipeg? The most likely way for an immigrant to get
to North Dakota through Canada around 1880 might be to take a ship
through the Great Lakes >from southern Ontario to Duluth, and then a
train to North Dakota. Or possibly he originally settled in Western
Canada and later moved to North Dakota.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Americanisation of Hebrew Names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Can anyone help with name changes?

I have traced family with the names Moritz, Nechame, Rifka, Yirl,
Sima and Naftali.

Moritz became Morris.

Nechame is a mystery - I have been advised it could have been changed
to Nettie?

Rifka became Beckie.

Yirl is a mystery.

Sima - I have been advised it could have been changed to Pearl, Celia
or Sylvia?

Naftali - is a mystery.

Any ideas would be most welcome.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

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Looking for GUREVICH #general

e-jbonkes <e-jbonkes@...>
 

Hello Genners
I have posted this before, but will give it another try.

Looking for relatives of my late Gm.Born in Divinsk Latvia.

Her name was Rachel Stem (nee Gurevich,Horowitz). She had a Brother
that lived at 1330 S Springfield Ave Chicago in the year 1920. I
dont know how many other Brothers she had,but one had the nick name
peanuts!! It is also possible that she had a Sister living in the
U.S.A.

So somewhere in the U.S.A. I have some long lost relatives. Anxiously
waiting for news.

Edna Bonkes (nee Stem)
B.C. Canada.


researching: LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN from Vilna area #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I've recently found that my great-grandmother Feiga (FINBERG) LANDSMAN
came to Boston >from Vilna in 1921. I also learned that my great-
grandfather Avraham LANDSMAN died in Vilna around 1916 (a 90 year old
cousin just told me, on a recent trip to Massachusetts, that he
remembers being 4 years old when his father learned of Avraham's death).

Most interesting is that I also learned, after obtaining Feiga's death
certificate in Boston, that her parents were Eliayahu/Eli (tombstone/
death certificate) and Ida (don't know hebrew name yet).

Almost all the records (her children's marriages) list her maiden name
as FINBERG. However, two records (both of which were recorded by my
father's uncle Louis) show her maiden name as PEANEN or PINAN. All the
records associated with marriages by siblings of Louis (including my
grandmother's marriage certificate) show the name as FINBERG.

I have a few questions:

1. Anyone familiar with these people?
2. Is there any equivalence between FINBERG and PEANEN (phonetically
into yiddish or some other way)?
3. If Avraham LANDSMAN died in 1916 in Vilna, would there be a record
in Lithuania?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@... >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers


Finding Grave in Holyoke #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

Fran Segall writes:
=I am trying to locate the grave of a cousin, Isaac BROUDY, who died
=in Holyoke, Mass. in 1931. His death certificate says "Fairview -
=Chicopee" for the location of the burial. There is a Fairview Cemetery
=in Chicopee (a town near Holyoke), but it is not a Jewish cemetery.

In small towns, there may not be a separate Jewish cemetary. For
example, my son is buried in a city cemetary in South Carolina, which
has only a Jewish section.

You may want to inquire whether that is the case in Chicopee, which is
rather small. Since they file their records by plot owner rather than
deceased, you might consider giving them the names of survivors who
might have made the arrangements.

I hope this helps.

Please Note: I have modified my "reply to" address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, use the following address:
jeanne4_98 at yahoo.com.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATIS/SLATIS, SANCTON/SANKTIN/SENKTIN,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, PASSIN, WEINGER/WENGER--Belarus, Lithuania,
Russia, USA


Marina del Ray California #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

My Marina del Ray problem was solved. Thanks to all who offered to
help and all who considered doing so.

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Americanisation of Hebrew Names #general

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Can anyone help with name changes?

I have traced family with the names Moritz, Nechame, Rifka, Yirl,
Sima and Naftali.

Moritz became Morris.

Nechame is a mystery - I have been advised it could have been changed
to Nettie?

Rifka became Beckie.

Yirl is a mystery.

Sima - I have been advised it could have been changed to Pearl, Celia
or Sylvia?

Naftali - is a mystery.

Any ideas would be most welcome.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

MODERATOR NOTE: You can check the JewishGen Archives for previous
discussions of this topic; to search the Archives, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop
Additional information about Jewish given names may be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html#Names and in JewishGen's
Given Names Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for GUREVICH #general

e-jbonkes <e-jbonkes@...>
 

Hello Genners
I have posted this before, but will give it another try.

Looking for relatives of my late Gm.Born in Divinsk Latvia.

Her name was Rachel Stem (nee Gurevich,Horowitz). She had a Brother
that lived at 1330 S Springfield Ave Chicago in the year 1920. I
dont know how many other Brothers she had,but one had the nick name
peanuts!! It is also possible that she had a Sister living in the
U.S.A.

So somewhere in the U.S.A. I have some long lost relatives. Anxiously
waiting for news.

Edna Bonkes (nee Stem)
B.C. Canada.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen researching: LANDSMAN/FINBERG/PEANEN from Vilna area #general

Marty Meyers <meyers01@...>
 

Hi,

I've recently found that my great-grandmother Feiga (FINBERG) LANDSMAN
came to Boston >from Vilna in 1921. I also learned that my great-
grandfather Avraham LANDSMAN died in Vilna around 1916 (a 90 year old
cousin just told me, on a recent trip to Massachusetts, that he
remembers being 4 years old when his father learned of Avraham's death).

Most interesting is that I also learned, after obtaining Feiga's death
certificate in Boston, that her parents were Eliayahu/Eli (tombstone/
death certificate) and Ida (don't know hebrew name yet).

Almost all the records (her children's marriages) list her maiden name
as FINBERG. However, two records (both of which were recorded by my
father's uncle Louis) show her maiden name as PEANEN or PINAN. All the
records associated with marriages by siblings of Louis (including my
grandmother's marriage certificate) show the name as FINBERG.

I have a few questions:

1. Anyone familiar with these people?
2. Is there any equivalence between FINBERG and PEANEN (phonetically
into yiddish or some other way)?
3. If Avraham LANDSMAN died in 1916 in Vilna, would there be a record
in Lithuania?

Please reply privately to < meyers01@... >

Thanks,

Marty Meyers


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding Grave in Holyoke #general

jeanne4_98nospam@yahoo.com <jeanne4_98@...>
 

Fran Segall writes:
=I am trying to locate the grave of a cousin, Isaac BROUDY, who died
=in Holyoke, Mass. in 1931. His death certificate says "Fairview -
=Chicopee" for the location of the burial. There is a Fairview Cemetery
=in Chicopee (a town near Holyoke), but it is not a Jewish cemetery.

In small towns, there may not be a separate Jewish cemetary. For
example, my son is buried in a city cemetary in South Carolina, which
has only a Jewish section.

You may want to inquire whether that is the case in Chicopee, which is
rather small. Since they file their records by plot owner rather than
deceased, you might consider giving them the names of survivors who
might have made the arrangements.

I hope this helps.

Please Note: I have modified my "reply to" address in an effort to avoid
automated spam. If you wish to reply to me, use the following address:
jeanne4_98 at yahoo.com.

Barbara Sloan
New Haven, CT

Searching SLATAS/ZLATIS/SLATIS, SANCTON/SANKTIN/SENKTIN,
SLONIMSKY/SLONIMSKI, PASSIN, WEINGER/WENGER--Belarus, Lithuania,
Russia, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marina del Ray California #general

IsraelP <zach4v6@...>
 

My Marina del Ray problem was solved. Thanks to all who offered to
help and all who considered doing so.

Israel Pickholtz