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Re: Help requested re our pending visit to Germany #germany

Ernest and Doris Stiefel <erstiefel@...>
 

Jewish birth, marriage and death records (Juden Matrikel) of what then was
the Grossherzogtum Hessen were established by law on January 14, 1823.
Most of these records still exist today; probably at the three state
archives (Wiesbaden, Darmstadt and Marburg). In addition many of the
originals still can be found at the place where the event took place.

In some places, like Darmstadt, Jewish records were kept at earlier dates.

I suggest that you make appointments at the three state archives and that
you visit the mayors of the places you indicated.

As to translators I am not in a position to give any help since I read,
speak and write German fluently.

I have no information re Hamburg. Good luck !

Ernest R. Stiefel, Seattle, Washington erstiefel@msn..com
German SIG #Germany Re: Help requested re our pending visit to Germany #germany

Ernest and Doris Stiefel <erstiefel@...>
 

Jewish birth, marriage and death records (Juden Matrikel) of what then was
the Grossherzogtum Hessen were established by law on January 14, 1823.
Most of these records still exist today; probably at the three state
archives (Wiesbaden, Darmstadt and Marburg). In addition many of the
originals still can be found at the place where the event took place.

In some places, like Darmstadt, Jewish records were kept at earlier dates.

I suggest that you make appointments at the three state archives and that
you visit the mayors of the places you indicated.

As to translators I am not in a position to give any help since I read,
speak and write German fluently.

I have no information re Hamburg. Good luck !

Ernest R. Stiefel, Seattle, Washington erstiefel@msn..com
ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE #lithuania

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE #lithuania

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net
Baron FLONDOR #romania

Artur Hecht <artur_1@...>
 

Baron FLONDOR has had an estate south of Mihaileni - Romania, possibly one
of many. He is mentioned a number of times in Zisu Lebel's book on
Mihaileni see www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Mihaileni/mihaileni.html

According to Zisu Lebel many Jews >from Mihaileni worked for him.

Artur Hecht
Haifa, Israel.

Researching: HECHT, STEINER - Mihaileni and Botosani
Romania SIG #Romania Baron FLONDOR #romania

Artur Hecht <artur_1@...>
 

Baron FLONDOR has had an estate south of Mihaileni - Romania, possibly one
of many. He is mentioned a number of times in Zisu Lebel's book on
Mihaileni see www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Mihaileni/mihaileni.html

According to Zisu Lebel many Jews >from Mihaileni worked for him.

Artur Hecht
Haifa, Israel.

Researching: HECHT, STEINER - Mihaileni and Botosani
Re: [h-sig] Early 20th Century Census Data #romania

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Thank you all for your replies.
I now understand the difficulties I have to deal with.
I do have one note though: my parents visited the Satu-Mare district
last month and in one of the villages, Turt, they 'bought' their way
into the town hall's vital records archive.
They managed to picture (no xerox machines there) a couple of pages with
birth records >from 1947-1950 and even >from 1924. The archivist told them
that records older than 1895, are kept in the national archives in
Bucharest. (which makes me wonder about records >from this area prior to
the Treaty of Trianon which should be in Budapest ...)

Anyway, thanks again everyone.
Shana Tova,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)
Romania SIG #Romania RE: [h-sig] Early 20th Century Census Data #romania

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Thank you all for your replies.
I now understand the difficulties I have to deal with.
I do have one note though: my parents visited the Satu-Mare district
last month and in one of the villages, Turt, they 'bought' their way
into the town hall's vital records archive.
They managed to picture (no xerox machines there) a couple of pages with
birth records >from 1947-1950 and even >from 1924. The archivist told them
that records older than 1895, are kept in the national archives in
Bucharest. (which makes me wonder about records >from this area prior to
the Treaty of Trianon which should be in Budapest ...)

Anyway, thanks again everyone.
Shana Tova,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)
Polish translation #lodz #poland

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Lodz Area Researchers,

If anyone can translate Polish to English and would like to help with
translating some documents, please contact me privately.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Polish translation #poland #lodz

Seflaum@...
 

Dear Fellow Lodz Area Researchers,

If anyone can translate Polish to English and would like to help with
translating some documents, please contact me privately.

Regards,
Shirley Rotbein Flaum
Houston, Texas
Vienna, Austria -- Business Directory, 1910 #general

Beverly <bbevy@...>
 

It has recently come to my attention that an uncle of my grandfather might
have owned a clothing factory in Vienna, Austria before and during WW1.
Does anyone know if Viennese Business directories exist >from the beginning
of the 20th century up till 1914, and if so where they can be found?

Any information on this may be interesting to the entire group, but I ask
that you answer me privately as well as I do not regularly read this list.

Thank you in advance for any information you might be able to share.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel
bbevy@012.net.il
Re: Chassidic dress #general

éåðúï áï àøé <yonatan@...>
 

If I am not mistaken there are some individual dress customs unique to
various chassidic groups, eg: to the best of my knowledge Gerer Chassidim
place their socks over the bottom of their pant and only wear loafer
without shoelaces.

Shana tova, a happy and healthy new year to all of G-ds creations.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

-----Original Message-----
From: R [mailto:ruthien@concentric.net]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: Chassidic dress
Bernard Rosinsky wrote:

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century (some
end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize a
tradiional jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and if a
Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book that can
help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?
Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture?
In general, you can deduce little >from such a picture. Traditional dress
in Russia, for instance, was virtually identical among both chasidim and
misnagdim. And in Lithuania, the dress was somewhat different >from in
Russia, but there again, chassidim and traditional misnagdim dressed
nearly alike. Ditto for Poland, and for Galicia, Hungary, etc. So while
the manner of dress in the picture might indicate the country of origin,
and that the person wore what was in those days traditional Jewish
garb in that country, it will indicate little else about the person.
Certainly not what "kind" of chassid the person might be.

One exception might be Vizhnitz Chassidim. As far as I know, they were and
are the only ones to wear their hat backwards, with the bow on the band
tied on the right side instead of the left.

Moshe Siechmach
Unusual name - SCKKOOL #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

A First World War soldier who was killed while serving in the British army
was Pte Garshum SCKKOOL. I have found nothing about him so far except that
he was born in Russia and lived in the East End of London. Both of those
facts plus his first name (Gershon?) suggest that he was Jewish, but his
surname is interesting. The spelling is that given in two official sources
bur I wonder how it was pronounced?

In my list of deceased Jewish soldiers of WWI I have him in my
**Unconfirmed** list, that is of those for whom there is no independent
confirmation that he was Jewish apart >from circumstantial evidence, in this
case name, bithplace and residence.

Harold Pollins
Oxford
Translation of gravestone inscription - ViewMate file VM1732 #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

Hello everyone!

I recently posted a picture of my great-great grandmother's gravestone on
ViewMate, and I would be extremely grateful to anyone who might be able to
help me to decipher the inscription on the stone.

You will be able to find the picture, for the next 7 days, at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html where the file name is VM1732.

Please send any replies to the address shown below, not to the group.

Many thanks for your help.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
Primpark@aol.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vienna, Austria -- Business Directory, 1910 #general

Beverly <bbevy@...>
 

It has recently come to my attention that an uncle of my grandfather might
have owned a clothing factory in Vienna, Austria before and during WW1.
Does anyone know if Viennese Business directories exist >from the beginning
of the 20th century up till 1914, and if so where they can be found?

Any information on this may be interesting to the entire group, but I ask
that you answer me privately as well as I do not regularly read this list.

Thank you in advance for any information you might be able to share.

Beverly Shulster
Yehud, Israel
bbevy@012.net.il
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Chassidic dress #general

éåðúï áï àøé <yonatan@...>
 

If I am not mistaken there are some individual dress customs unique to
various chassidic groups, eg: to the best of my knowledge Gerer Chassidim
place their socks over the bottom of their pant and only wear loafer
without shoelaces.

Shana tova, a happy and healthy new year to all of G-ds creations.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Jerusalem/Efrat

-----Original Message-----
From: R [mailto:ruthien@concentric.net]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 5:18 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Re: Chassidic dress
Bernard Rosinsky wrote:

I have pictures of family members at the turn of the 20th century (some
end of 19th century). I know that it is possible to categorize a
tradiional jew by his clothing: Is he a Chassid or a Mitnaged and if a
Chassid, what group he belonged to. Is there a reference book that can
help me determine where I should categorize my ancestor?
Can I deduce more facts >from just a picture?
In general, you can deduce little >from such a picture. Traditional dress
in Russia, for instance, was virtually identical among both chasidim and
misnagdim. And in Lithuania, the dress was somewhat different >from in
Russia, but there again, chassidim and traditional misnagdim dressed
nearly alike. Ditto for Poland, and for Galicia, Hungary, etc. So while
the manner of dress in the picture might indicate the country of origin,
and that the person wore what was in those days traditional Jewish
garb in that country, it will indicate little else about the person.
Certainly not what "kind" of chassid the person might be.

One exception might be Vizhnitz Chassidim. As far as I know, they were and
are the only ones to wear their hat backwards, with the bow on the band
tied on the right side instead of the left.

Moshe Siechmach
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Unusual name - SCKKOOL #general

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

A First World War soldier who was killed while serving in the British army
was Pte Garshum SCKKOOL. I have found nothing about him so far except that
he was born in Russia and lived in the East End of London. Both of those
facts plus his first name (Gershon?) suggest that he was Jewish, but his
surname is interesting. The spelling is that given in two official sources
bur I wonder how it was pronounced?

In my list of deceased Jewish soldiers of WWI I have him in my
**Unconfirmed** list, that is of those for whom there is no independent
confirmation that he was Jewish apart >from circumstantial evidence, in this
case name, bithplace and residence.

Harold Pollins
Oxford
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of gravestone inscription - ViewMate file VM1732 #general

Primpark <primpark@...>
 

Hello everyone!

I recently posted a picture of my great-great grandmother's gravestone on
ViewMate, and I would be extremely grateful to anyone who might be able to
help me to decipher the inscription on the stone.

You will be able to find the picture, for the next 7 days, at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html where the file name is VM1732.

Please send any replies to the address shown below, not to the group.

Many thanks for your help.

Jonathan Newman,
Leeds, England
Primpark@aol.com
Support #general

Anita Citron <anitac47@...>
 

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card. Making 'a' donation might put out a small part of the fire but
JewishGen needs the money on a continuing basis. Most of us don't just go
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I have been doing research for 5 years--perhaps not as long as some of
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Ladyzhin/Odessa),ODESSKY(Lipovets/Odessa), NEPOMNYATSHY(Voznesensk/Odessa)
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Where is Biakowka, formerly *Russia* #general

Mimi Katz <GeveretK@...>
 

Is someone familiar with a town called Biakowka in 1913? It was formerly
in *Russia*. I'm guessing it might be in today's Poland, but there are too
many choices on the shtetl finder, in too many countries >from the Pale.

Mimi Katz, Chicago
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