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Re: 1901 British Census: More Comments #general

Michael Yaffey <myaffey@...>
 

Ron Kathren writes:>
I share the frustration of David Kravitz with the 1901 British census.
Even though I have accurate knowledge of family living in Manchester in
1901, not a one appears in the census. Since his problem area also seems
to be centered on Manchester, perhaps this location is the problem. Then
again, a global search for the surname RUTSTEIN comes up negative. Yet
the family is there in the 1881 census, although they could have gone or
the surname disappeared by 1901. Methinks as does David Kravitz that the
1901 British census may be of very limited genealogical value.
I think Ron and David are unduly harsh. I have found good results >from this
census myself. The problem would be that the census enumerator is faced
with a person who cannot spell his/her name. So they take the best stab
at it, in terms of their own Lancashire dialect's mapping of spelling to
sound. That is not strictly an *inaccuracy* and certainly not *garbage*.

With regard to RUTSTEIN, the census records 40 ROTHSTEINs of whom two are
in Manchester. Maybe that's the answer.

Best wishes

Michael Yaffey


Given name *Zelda* #general

manuel brandt
 

Hello List:

My wife says her Hebrew name is Zelda. Is this an authentic Hebrew name.If
not, what is it.

Manuel Brandt

Researching BRAND, BRANDT,SCHALIT WASSERSTROM.


Help with research techniques in NY #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Dear Genners;
I would like to research a witness to my grandparents wedding. The
wedding of Rae SHAPIRO and Benjamin KRIEDBERG took place in 1935, Bronx,
NY, USA and the witness' name is Bob COHEN. All I know about Bob COHEN is
that he is somehow a cousin to the groom (my grandfather). Family members
I have asked cannot provide me with any more information, nobody knows who
he is.

The groom's parents were Berlina LIEBERMAN and Louis KREIDBERG. The groom
was one of 4 children, all very close in age so Bob could not be the child
of a sibling.Berlina had 3 siblings, George LIEBERMAN, Harry LIEBERMAN,
and Sophia LIEBERMAN. Sophia married Sigmund SILVERMAN and had 3
children; Harry, Blanche and Harriet, so Bob COHEN does not fit with what
I know of the LIEBERMAN family. Berlina's parents were Betty SCHECHTER and
Wolf LIEBERMAN.

I believe that Bob Cohen fits into the KRIEDBERG line somehow. Louis
KREIDBERG's parents were Jacob Issac KRAIDBERG and Gitel EHRLICH. I do not
know anything else about them. I have not yet been able to find them on
passenger lists, or on the Census.

SO the big question is how do I go about trying to find information on a
Bob COHEN in the Bronx, circa 1935 and before without knowing his parents
names or anything else about him. There are a vast number of Bob Cohens
in the Bronx and Manhattan and without some unique detail this seems like
it is beyond searching for a needle in a haystack. Any Ideas???? By the
way I am in Raleigh, North Carolina (600 miles south NY) so going to NY to
research is not feasible. Thanks in advance.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC


Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.


Re: Use of maternal surnames #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Carlos covered numerous reasons to use a maternal surname. The most recent
edition of the NGS Quarterly contains a family history detailing and
discussing the use of maternal surnames. While the family in this article
is not Jewish, it gives some insight into how complicated and difficult
researching families using maternal surnames can be. For those trying to
research this, it may provide some general help.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1901 British Census: More Comments #general

Michael Yaffey <myaffey@...>
 

Ron Kathren writes:>
I share the frustration of David Kravitz with the 1901 British census.
Even though I have accurate knowledge of family living in Manchester in
1901, not a one appears in the census. Since his problem area also seems
to be centered on Manchester, perhaps this location is the problem. Then
again, a global search for the surname RUTSTEIN comes up negative. Yet
the family is there in the 1881 census, although they could have gone or
the surname disappeared by 1901. Methinks as does David Kravitz that the
1901 British census may be of very limited genealogical value.
I think Ron and David are unduly harsh. I have found good results >from this
census myself. The problem would be that the census enumerator is faced
with a person who cannot spell his/her name. So they take the best stab
at it, in terms of their own Lancashire dialect's mapping of spelling to
sound. That is not strictly an *inaccuracy* and certainly not *garbage*.

With regard to RUTSTEIN, the census records 40 ROTHSTEINs of whom two are
in Manchester. Maybe that's the answer.

Best wishes

Michael Yaffey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Given name *Zelda* #general

manuel brandt
 

Hello List:

My wife says her Hebrew name is Zelda. Is this an authentic Hebrew name.If
not, what is it.

Manuel Brandt

Researching BRAND, BRANDT,SCHALIT WASSERSTROM.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with research techniques in NY #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Dear Genners;
I would like to research a witness to my grandparents wedding. The
wedding of Rae SHAPIRO and Benjamin KRIEDBERG took place in 1935, Bronx,
NY, USA and the witness' name is Bob COHEN. All I know about Bob COHEN is
that he is somehow a cousin to the groom (my grandfather). Family members
I have asked cannot provide me with any more information, nobody knows who
he is.

The groom's parents were Berlina LIEBERMAN and Louis KREIDBERG. The groom
was one of 4 children, all very close in age so Bob could not be the child
of a sibling.Berlina had 3 siblings, George LIEBERMAN, Harry LIEBERMAN,
and Sophia LIEBERMAN. Sophia married Sigmund SILVERMAN and had 3
children; Harry, Blanche and Harriet, so Bob COHEN does not fit with what
I know of the LIEBERMAN family. Berlina's parents were Betty SCHECHTER and
Wolf LIEBERMAN.

I believe that Bob Cohen fits into the KRIEDBERG line somehow. Louis
KREIDBERG's parents were Jacob Issac KRAIDBERG and Gitel EHRLICH. I do not
know anything else about them. I have not yet been able to find them on
passenger lists, or on the Census.

SO the big question is how do I go about trying to find information on a
Bob COHEN in the Bronx, circa 1935 and before without knowing his parents
names or anything else about him. There are a vast number of Bob Cohens
in the Bronx and Manhattan and without some unique detail this seems like
it is beyond searching for a needle in a haystack. Any Ideas???? By the
way I am in Raleigh, North Carolina (600 miles south NY) so going to NY to
research is not feasible. Thanks in advance.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC


Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Use of maternal surnames #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

Carlos covered numerous reasons to use a maternal surname. The most recent
edition of the NGS Quarterly contains a family history detailing and
discussing the use of maternal surnames. While the family in this article
is not Jewish, it gives some insight into how complicated and difficult
researching families using maternal surnames can be. For those trying to
research this, it may provide some general help.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.


Question regarding NYC marriage certificate #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

I just obtained my grandparents' marriage certificate and I am puzzled. It
is written in longhand and appears to be totally written by the same person.
The second page should have signatures and it is witnessed but both names
and the witness name again seem to be written by the same hand. Is this
usual? In addition, although I had always been told my great-grandmother's
maiden name was Sheba April, the name I see written in Sheiwa Gran. The
letters are unmistakeable. I have never heard the name Gran, has anyone
else?


Yokohama Maru Arrival Manifest at Seattle, WA, 1916 #general

budblaher@...
 

I've had no luck in obtaining the ship's manifest for the Yokahama Maru
which sailed >from Yokahama, Japan and arrived in the port of Seattle,
Washington on January 23, 1916. My father, Nathan BLAHER, travelled across
Siberia with 3 or 4 other teenagers >from Perm, Russia. I have located one
of the other young men, Larry CHASKIN, whose daughter in Pennsylvania has
no clues on their trip or where their family resided. A second young man,
Israel RUTMAN, spent his lifetime in Chicago as a choirmaster. He never
married and retired to Miami, FL. He died in 1974 with his only only
relatives being a nephew & niece living in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I do not
know their name so I can't contact them or their offspring. I need the
manifest to try and get the name(s) of the other teenagers. Any
suggestions?

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL
budblaher@earthlink.net


Victor and Kathy Kreimer #general

Alberto Kremnitzerr <alby@...>
 

I am looking for information on my uncle and aunt that lived in
Morristown, NJ in the 50´s and 60´s.
I wish to know of a Jewish Cemetery around Morristown where they might
have been buried or if there is any search site for deceased Jews. I found
no info in Social Security, Ellis Island and other sites.
Thank you for your help.

Alberto Kremnitzer
Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil


New: Ozorkow, Poland PSA Project (near Lodz) #general

rieke nash <rieken@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am happy to announce that 1,639 new indices to non-microfilmed Jewish
vital records of Ozorkow are pending addition to the JRI-Poland
database. Some 19th century and first two years of the 20th century
Jewish vital records of this town have been indexed by the JRI-Poland
team in Warsaw as part of the JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives (PSA)
Project.

Ozorkow is located only 20 miles / 32 kilometers NW of Lodz and had a
large Jewish population before the Shoah.

Some of the towns located close to Ozorkow are:
Lodz, Aleksandrow Lodzki, Piatek, Zgierz, Leczyca, Kutno, Strykow.

o Summary of New Indices to Ozorkow Records

The types and years of records are as follows:

Marriages: 1844-55, 1888-1889
Deaths: 1887-90, 1897-1902

o Surnames Found in the New Indices

Surnames found in the Ozorkow indices can be viewed on
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/ozorkow_surn.htm

o The Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project

Indexes to non-microfilmed 19th century Ozorkow Jewish records housed in
the Lodz Archives were indexed for addition to the JRI-Poland database
under an agreement between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives
(PSA).
For information about the PSA project see:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

This new material will finally allow you to expand your research into a
time period or geographical area that has been elusive and beyond your
reach. Once these indexes are available, you may simply print out an
order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order
the records >from the Polish State Archives.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Ozorkow are at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm, click on *Status
Report: PSA Project Underway* which is the last line in the heading of
this page. On the Status Report page, click *Lodz, phase 1* in the
dropdown menu.

If you would like further information on this project, please contact
me.

Sincerely,
Rieke Nash
Ozorkow PSA Town Leader
E-mail: rieken@zeta.org.au
Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm


New JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager #general

Fred Apel <fredapel@...>
 

I wish to thank everyone at JewishGen for placing their trust in me and
giving me the opportunity and privilege of serving as Project Manager
for ShtetLinks. I look forward to the challenges with the anticipation
of building on the solid foundation put in place by Chuck Weinstein. I
hope everyone will bear with me as I go through the learning curve of
the task at hand. Chuck will be my advisor and guide to insure
ShtetLinks and I make a smooth transition.

Fred Apel
New JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question regarding NYC marriage certificate #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

I just obtained my grandparents' marriage certificate and I am puzzled. It
is written in longhand and appears to be totally written by the same person.
The second page should have signatures and it is witnessed but both names
and the witness name again seem to be written by the same hand. Is this
usual? In addition, although I had always been told my great-grandmother's
maiden name was Sheba April, the name I see written in Sheiwa Gran. The
letters are unmistakeable. I have never heard the name Gran, has anyone
else?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yokohama Maru Arrival Manifest at Seattle, WA, 1916 #general

budblaher@...
 

I've had no luck in obtaining the ship's manifest for the Yokahama Maru
which sailed >from Yokahama, Japan and arrived in the port of Seattle,
Washington on January 23, 1916. My father, Nathan BLAHER, travelled across
Siberia with 3 or 4 other teenagers >from Perm, Russia. I have located one
of the other young men, Larry CHASKIN, whose daughter in Pennsylvania has
no clues on their trip or where their family resided. A second young man,
Israel RUTMAN, spent his lifetime in Chicago as a choirmaster. He never
married and retired to Miami, FL. He died in 1974 with his only only
relatives being a nephew & niece living in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. I do not
know their name so I can't contact them or their offspring. I need the
manifest to try and get the name(s) of the other teenagers. Any
suggestions?

Morris Blaher
Apopka, FL
budblaher@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Victor and Kathy Kreimer #general

Alberto Kremnitzerr <alby@...>
 

I am looking for information on my uncle and aunt that lived in
Morristown, NJ in the 50´s and 60´s.
I wish to know of a Jewish Cemetery around Morristown where they might
have been buried or if there is any search site for deceased Jews. I found
no info in Social Security, Ellis Island and other sites.
Thank you for your help.

Alberto Kremnitzer
Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New: Ozorkow, Poland PSA Project (near Lodz) #general

rieke nash <rieken@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers,

I am happy to announce that 1,639 new indices to non-microfilmed Jewish
vital records of Ozorkow are pending addition to the JRI-Poland
database. Some 19th century and first two years of the 20th century
Jewish vital records of this town have been indexed by the JRI-Poland
team in Warsaw as part of the JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives (PSA)
Project.

Ozorkow is located only 20 miles / 32 kilometers NW of Lodz and had a
large Jewish population before the Shoah.

Some of the towns located close to Ozorkow are:
Lodz, Aleksandrow Lodzki, Piatek, Zgierz, Leczyca, Kutno, Strykow.

o Summary of New Indices to Ozorkow Records

The types and years of records are as follows:

Marriages: 1844-55, 1888-1889
Deaths: 1887-90, 1897-1902

o Surnames Found in the New Indices

Surnames found in the Ozorkow indices can be viewed on
www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/ozorkow_surn.htm

o The Lodz JRI-Poland / Polish State Archives Project

Indexes to non-microfilmed 19th century Ozorkow Jewish records housed in
the Lodz Archives were indexed for addition to the JRI-Poland database
under an agreement between JRI-Poland and the Polish State Archives
(PSA).
For information about the PSA project see:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm

This new material will finally allow you to expand your research into a
time period or geographical area that has been elusive and beyond your
reach. Once these indexes are available, you may simply print out an
order form >from the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland web site and order
the records >from the Polish State Archives.

Updates on the JRI-Poland/PSA Ozorkow are at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/psa/psastat.htm, click on *Status
Report: PSA Project Underway* which is the last line in the heading of
this page. On the Status Report page, click *Lodz, phase 1* in the
dropdown menu.

If you would like further information on this project, please contact
me.

Sincerely,
Rieke Nash
Ozorkow PSA Town Leader
E-mail: rieken@zeta.org.au
Internet: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/psa/psastat.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager #general

Fred Apel <fredapel@...>
 

I wish to thank everyone at JewishGen for placing their trust in me and
giving me the opportunity and privilege of serving as Project Manager
for ShtetLinks. I look forward to the challenges with the anticipation
of building on the solid foundation put in place by Chuck Weinstein. I
hope everyone will bear with me as I go through the learning curve of
the task at hand. Chuck will be my advisor and guide to insure
ShtetLinks and I make a smooth transition.

Fred Apel
New JewishGen ShtetLinks Project Manager


case study - Belarus Archive official channels #belarus

Alexander Kott <alexkott@...>
 

A small success story with official Belarus archives.
Those who are considering working with them via the
official channels (as opposed to working with a
private researcher) might find this story a useful
data point.

About 3 months ago I send a plain letter to an archive
in Pinsk, Belarus, asking for information about a
particular person. Apparently the letter has been
routed to other appropriate archives, and two weeks
ago I received unexpectedly a letter >from the Belarus
Embassy in Washington, DC. The letter informed me that
one of the Belarus archives found some related
information, and asked me to pay $80 if I wanted to
see what the information was. I sent them the money
and received a small but useful bit of information.

Overall, I can see some advantages, considering that
it only took me the price of postage to send the
original letter. In effect, the archives performed a
search for me without any pre-payment, and I would not
have to pay anything in case they found nothing.

On the other hand, I did not receive any information
on how exhaustive the search was and what specific
collections had been searched, something I always know
when I commission a private researcher in Belarus.


=====
Alexander Kott


Goncands?? #belarus

Psherryred1@...
 

Dear Jenners,
Where, oh where is GONCANDS? I'm trying to find my grandfather a Julius(Judel
Mendel Weiner) WINNER. I found a Judel Weiner on the EI site, only to find
that he comes >from GONCANDS. Since there does not seem to be an original
manifest, I just have access to the text version which may have lost
something in its "translation." Where is this place? I'm almost sure it is
somewhere in Belarus, around Minsk. Any ideas?
Phyllis Grodzinsky Campbell
San Jose, CA