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Re: South Africa Newspaper? #general

3ofus <3ofus@...>
 

Hi Bob,

The most likely newspapers would have been the "Star" and the 'Rand Daily
Mail' (now published as The Mail and the Guardian", both >from Johannesburg.
The other most likely paper would have been in Cape Town, but I don't know
any names. I am sure if you write to the editor of the Star, he will be
happy to give you information and assistance.

Good Luck!

Lyn Green

-----Original Message-----

A friend has found the obit notices for her great grandmother and great
grandfather in The Jewish Chronicle of Manchester, England (1913 & 1914).
There was a notation *South African newspaper please copy.*

Any suggestions as to which S.A. newspaper would copy the obit? Were
there one or two *newspapers of record*for this time period, especially
such papers which would have been read by the Jewish community?
Re: 9/11 Jewish Victims List #general

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

One way would be to submit obituaries which have been published. Does
anyone know if any of the volunteer obituary collection groups (RootsWeb or
whatever)

I checked Special Obituary Collections on the Web
http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/special.htm and found nothing.

A further check shows that the New York Obituary Link Page
< http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/ny.htm > has a page called "Obituaries
of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001" which seems to be put
together by the New York Times
< http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/index_GRIEF.html > These are
arranged, it seems, by the date that they were added to the lists between
September 15th and November 27, 2001. These are called profiles and vary in
content. I checked some profiles of those with Jewish sounding names - some
mentioned religion, most didn't, some gave enough family information to
permit further research, some didn't. I looked through most of the over 60
pages, each with links to 10 to 20 profiles but didn't find the name of
someone whom I knew was on Flight 11. (I have a copy of his obituary >from
the Boston Globe.) This would be a fairly large project.

Just my two cents.

Batya

Lynne Shapiro wrote:

This would be a worthwhile project, to both honor those lost and to in
some small way counter the notion in large segments of the Arab world
that Jews somehow knew of the event in advance and did not go into work
at the World Trade Center that day. But there are already lists of
victims, which of course do not specify religion. How would we know
which of the victims were Jewish? Would it be a list based on
submissions of family members? That would probably not be very complete,
because only a certain segment of the population would submit names.
Also, for the list to be most useful genealogically, it would have to
contain additional information, such as the date of birth and parents'
names of the victims. People might understandably feel reluctant to give
this information to an instantly accessible list, since it could invade
their privacy. Does anyone see a way around these issues?

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.
massacre of Jewish professionals in Czestochowa #general

Samuel Schacher <sms2@...>
 

Hello,

I recently came across citations about the death of Jewish physicians
during a massacre of Jewish professionals in the Czestochowa cemetery
on March 20, 1943. Does anyone have information about this event or
can direct me to where information about this even can be obtained?
Does anyone know who was killed and who were the perpetrators?

Thank you for your response.

Samuel Schacher
New York, NY
EMail sms2@columbia.edu

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: South Africa Newspaper? #general

3ofus <3ofus@...>
 

Hi Bob,

The most likely newspapers would have been the "Star" and the 'Rand Daily
Mail' (now published as The Mail and the Guardian", both >from Johannesburg.
The other most likely paper would have been in Cape Town, but I don't know
any names. I am sure if you write to the editor of the Star, he will be
happy to give you information and assistance.

Good Luck!

Lyn Green

-----Original Message-----

A friend has found the obit notices for her great grandmother and great
grandfather in The Jewish Chronicle of Manchester, England (1913 & 1914).
There was a notation *South African newspaper please copy.*

Any suggestions as to which S.A. newspaper would copy the obit? Were
there one or two *newspapers of record*for this time period, especially
such papers which would have been read by the Jewish community?
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 9/11 Jewish Victims List #general

Batya Olsen <batyao@...>
 

One way would be to submit obituaries which have been published. Does
anyone know if any of the volunteer obituary collection groups (RootsWeb or
whatever)

I checked Special Obituary Collections on the Web
http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/special.htm and found nothing.

A further check shows that the New York Obituary Link Page
< http://www.obitlinkspage.com/obit/ny.htm > has a page called "Obituaries
of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001" which seems to be put
together by the New York Times
< http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/index_GRIEF.html > These are
arranged, it seems, by the date that they were added to the lists between
September 15th and November 27, 2001. These are called profiles and vary in
content. I checked some profiles of those with Jewish sounding names - some
mentioned religion, most didn't, some gave enough family information to
permit further research, some didn't. I looked through most of the over 60
pages, each with links to 10 to 20 profiles but didn't find the name of
someone whom I knew was on Flight 11. (I have a copy of his obituary >from
the Boston Globe.) This would be a fairly large project.

Just my two cents.

Batya

Lynne Shapiro wrote:

This would be a worthwhile project, to both honor those lost and to in
some small way counter the notion in large segments of the Arab world
that Jews somehow knew of the event in advance and did not go into work
at the World Trade Center that day. But there are already lists of
victims, which of course do not specify religion. How would we know
which of the victims were Jewish? Would it be a list based on
submissions of family members? That would probably not be very complete,
because only a certain segment of the population would submit names.
Also, for the list to be most useful genealogically, it would have to
contain additional information, such as the date of birth and parents'
names of the victims. People might understandably feel reluctant to give
this information to an instantly accessible list, since it could invade
their privacy. Does anyone see a way around these issues?

Lynne Shapiro
Western Mass.
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen massacre of Jewish professionals in Czestochowa #general

Samuel Schacher <sms2@...>
 

Hello,

I recently came across citations about the death of Jewish physicians
during a massacre of Jewish professionals in the Czestochowa cemetery
on March 20, 1943. Does anyone have information about this event or
can direct me to where information about this even can be obtained?
Does anyone know who was killed and who were the perpetrators?

Thank you for your response.

Samuel Schacher
New York, NY
EMail sms2@columbia.edu

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
Re: NYC 1915 Census Question #general

josh schleman <samara99@...>
 

Under a place search, use "New York, New York (second one on the list).

The film numbers are 523274 - 523310.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Weil <weil.17@osu.edu>
Date: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:30 am
Subject: NYC 1915 Census Question

Dear Group-

I am trying to do some NYC 1915 census lookups, and I have a bit of a easy
question. I've found the Assembly and Election District numbers, but I
can't seem to find the films! A search through the Family History Center
Catalog for the NYC 1915 census led me to the films for Kings, Richmond,
Queens, and Bronx counties, but I only need the films for Manhattan. I
have found the films for the 1905 and 1925 census. Where am I going wrong?

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH
Other Hamburg Passengers-and Kovno #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

While looking through the Hamburg Passenger List information, I found a film
of odd things: Film 1732431

Jewish returnees, 1905-1907
Returnees, 1906-1913
Emigrants >from Kovno 1897-1899
Emigrants not on emigrant ships 1871-1887
Emigrants sent by rail to other ports (because of WWI) 1913-1914

So if you have people who you think swam the Atlantic because you can't find
their passenger lists, try this!

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC 1915 Census Question #general

josh schleman <samara99@...>
 

Under a place search, use "New York, New York (second one on the list).

The film numbers are 523274 - 523310.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Weil <weil.17@osu.edu>
Date: Friday, September 27, 2002 9:30 am
Subject: NYC 1915 Census Question

Dear Group-

I am trying to do some NYC 1915 census lookups, and I have a bit of a easy
question. I've found the Assembly and Election District numbers, but I
can't seem to find the films! A search through the Family History Center
Catalog for the NYC 1915 census led me to the films for Kings, Richmond,
Queens, and Bronx counties, but I only need the films for Manhattan. I
have found the films for the 1905 and 1925 census. Where am I going wrong?

Shawn Weil
Columbus, OH
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Other Hamburg Passengers-and Kovno #general

sallybru <sallybru@...>
 

While looking through the Hamburg Passenger List information, I found a film
of odd things: Film 1732431

Jewish returnees, 1905-1907
Returnees, 1906-1913
Emigrants >from Kovno 1897-1899
Emigrants not on emigrant ships 1871-1887
Emigrants sent by rail to other ports (because of WWI) 1913-1914

So if you have people who you think swam the Atlantic because you can't find
their passenger lists, try this!

Sally Bruckheimer
Albany, NY
YELLIN from Lomza, probably Jablonka #general

Sandy Levin <Sandy.Levin@...>
 

Berek (Berol) Yellin. He was born around 1860 and married Asnah Leah
Berensztejn in 1880 in Lomza Gub., perhaps in Jablonka. I have the
marriage records >from the LDS microfilm. Her parents were Mortek son of
Wolf and Chaia, daughter of Simcha. Their children were Minnie, Phillip
(who changed his name to Feinberg, his wife's name, when he moved to
Columbus Georgia, USA), Jake (who also changed his name to Feinberg, too),
Bessie (who married her cousin Sam Yellin), Rebecca, Willie, Lena, Sara,
and Abe. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Sandy Levin, London, ON
slevin.mba1979@ivey.ca
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YELLIN from Lomza, probably Jablonka #general

Sandy Levin <Sandy.Levin@...>
 

Berek (Berol) Yellin. He was born around 1860 and married Asnah Leah
Berensztejn in 1880 in Lomza Gub., perhaps in Jablonka. I have the
marriage records >from the LDS microfilm. Her parents were Mortek son of
Wolf and Chaia, daughter of Simcha. Their children were Minnie, Phillip
(who changed his name to Feinberg, his wife's name, when he moved to
Columbus Georgia, USA), Jake (who also changed his name to Feinberg, too),
Bessie (who married her cousin Sam Yellin), Rebecca, Willie, Lena, Sara,
and Abe. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Sandy Levin, London, ON
slevin.mba1979@ivey.ca
YZVERRICHEN (RICHIE or RICH) from Skhlov #general

Sandy Levin <Sandy.Levin@...>
 

My grandfather, Sam Richie (Yzverrichen) was >from Skhlov in Russia. He
and his sister, Rose, went to England around the turn of the century. She
stayed and married a Cohen. They had a number of children, including
Barnett and Judah. I have a picture of the entire family >from 1926. I
understand a number of members of the family moved to Australia or New
Zealand in the 1960s. Does any of this ring a bell with you? Let me
know.

Sandy Levin, London, ON
slevin.mba1979@ivey.ca
1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news!
The 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database is now on-line at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Census1828.htm >.
Check it out!

Kudos to all those volunteers who have been working so diligently to put
together this valuable resource.

The database is still in its infancy, but already contains 8,000 names,
and growing. We hope to complete the effort over the next 12 months,
but we need additional volunteers to transcribe names >from LDS
microfilm. If you have access to a FHC library and would like to help,
please let me know at: bloch@wi.rr.com. You do *not* need to know
Hungarian. There is no translation required since the names were all
written in Latin characters.

Happy searching!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Milwaukee, WI
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen YZVERRICHEN (RICHIE or RICH) from Skhlov #general

Sandy Levin <Sandy.Levin@...>
 

My grandfather, Sam Richie (Yzverrichen) was >from Skhlov in Russia. He
and his sister, Rose, went to England around the turn of the century. She
stayed and married a Cohen. They had a number of children, including
Barnett and Judah. I have a picture of the entire family >from 1926. I
understand a number of members of the family moved to Australia or New
Zealand in the 1960s. Does any of this ring a bell with you? Let me
know.

Sandy Levin, London, ON
slevin.mba1979@ivey.ca
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database #general

Eric M. Bloch
 

Great news!
The 1828 Hungarian Property Tax Census database is now on-line at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/Census1828.htm >.
Check it out!

Kudos to all those volunteers who have been working so diligently to put
together this valuable resource.

The database is still in its infancy, but already contains 8,000 names,
and growing. We hope to complete the effort over the next 12 months,
but we need additional volunteers to transcribe names >from LDS
microfilm. If you have access to a FHC library and would like to help,
please let me know at: bloch@wi.rr.com. You do *not* need to know
Hungarian. There is no translation required since the names were all
written in Latin characters.

Happy searching!

Eric M. Bloch, Coordinator
Milwaukee, WI
1901 U.K. Census #general

l r <drees@...>
 

On the whole, I was quite stunned by the amount of information available
on the 1901 U.K. Census, but there were some errors which probably
occurred during the transcription.

On my initial (free) access, I found my paternal g/parents and two of
their children,( my father and his brother), although I knew they had
more children at that time.

The ages of my brother & father did not appear to be correct, but when I
obtained access to "Persons in Household" four children were listed, all
with correct ages. Initially, my father's correct first name, Barnet,
was listed, but in the expanded version it is "Barrett".

Also, I knew my g/parents came >from Darsniskis, Lith,, but under the
"where born" heading, "Hamburgh, Germany" was listed. This was
probably their port of emigration and this could have been mistakenly
given to the census taker.

My maternal & paternal g/parents had numerous siblings all over England
and it was quite exciting checking out my aunts, uncles & cousins who
had arrived there by that year. Not only that, I came >from a small
community in S.Wales and I looked up many of the names I remembered from
my childhood.

Wouldn't it be great if the U.S. Govt.
put the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census online with free access initially, then
a small charge to download? (And what a tremendous source of revenue
that would generate!).

Dora Rees,
Atlanta, Ga.
drees@webtv.net
BERNSTEIN, FISHER. MEIEROVICH, GOLDSTEIN & GARBER (Darsuniskis &
Phiadelphia).
Re: 9/11 Jewish Victims List #general

Linda <altmanlh@...>
 

On Thu, 26 September 2002, Lynne Shapiro wrote:

This would be a worthwhile project, to both honor those lost and to in
some small way counter the notion in large segments of the Arab world
that Jews somehow knew of the event in advance and did not go into work
at the World Trade Center that day. But there are already lists of
victims, which of course do not specify religion...>
Lynne brings up some very good points. The biggest issue, I believe is the
one of privacy. Unfortunatley there are those who look to capitalize on
other peoples misfortunes. By publishing personal data on those that
perished, it may open up the door for such things. A lot of these people
have living parents, siblings and children. To publish the personal data in
a publically accessable datase raises a lot of privacy issues. Look at it
this way - do you want your name, address, phone number, name of spouse,
children's names, religon, and parents names published for all to see?
Granted armed with a credit card, internet access and a name I can get most
of this information, probably more. But why make it any easier?

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC
researching:
ALTMAN, >from Russia to NY City. TYRNAUER >from Hungary.
BERGMAN >from Warsaw & Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland to the UK, Israel and US.
CYBULA/CYBULKA/CYBULKO/CYBULKSI, Ostrow Maz., Siedlce,& Zambrow, Poland to
UK, and US. GOLDFINGIER, Sokolow-Podlaski, Poland. SINGER, Austria.
KRIEDBERG/KREIDBERG/KZAIBURG/KRITBERG/KRITZBERG >from Russia to US.
LIEBERMAN, Austria and Romania to US.
winnipeg Jewish history #general

Haviva Langenauer <havival@...>
 

Hi Genners,
Some months ago a kind genner sent me the address for some Internet pages
that contained interviews with Jews >from Winnipeg, and stories of how their
families first came to that city. There were photos of the individuals who
gave this history, and there were a lot of interesting facts about the
Jewish beginnings in that city. I believe the project may have been in
connection with charitable giving.
I no longer know how to find these pages. If someone can provide the site
address, I would be very grateful.
Hag Sameach.
Haviva Dolgin Langenauer
So. Florida
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1901 U.K. Census #general

l r <drees@...>
 

On the whole, I was quite stunned by the amount of information available
on the 1901 U.K. Census, but there were some errors which probably
occurred during the transcription.

On my initial (free) access, I found my paternal g/parents and two of
their children,( my father and his brother), although I knew they had
more children at that time.

The ages of my brother & father did not appear to be correct, but when I
obtained access to "Persons in Household" four children were listed, all
with correct ages. Initially, my father's correct first name, Barnet,
was listed, but in the expanded version it is "Barrett".

Also, I knew my g/parents came >from Darsniskis, Lith,, but under the
"where born" heading, "Hamburgh, Germany" was listed. This was
probably their port of emigration and this could have been mistakenly
given to the census taker.

My maternal & paternal g/parents had numerous siblings all over England
and it was quite exciting checking out my aunts, uncles & cousins who
had arrived there by that year. Not only that, I came >from a small
community in S.Wales and I looked up many of the names I remembered from
my childhood.

Wouldn't it be great if the U.S. Govt.
put the 1910, 1920 & 1930 Census online with free access initially, then
a small charge to download? (And what a tremendous source of revenue
that would generate!).

Dora Rees,
Atlanta, Ga.
drees@webtv.net
BERNSTEIN, FISHER. MEIEROVICH, GOLDSTEIN & GARBER (Darsuniskis &
Phiadelphia).
463381 - 463400 of 656531