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*Read* your posting, *know* who sent what #general

MBernet@...
 

Someone recently posted a query about a family named EPPELBAUM somewhere
in Poland. I thought I'd be helpful and pointed out various alternate
name spellings to check for. Alas, I am no Newton, but since that mement
I have been showered with fruit >from every *apple tree*.

Please, folk, don't simply click the "reply" button when you think you
have something momentous to tell--make sure you know whom the original
message or inquiry actually came >from (It's there, right on the first line
of the message "In a message dated . . . xyz@klm.com writes"). Don't
simply reply to the person who signs the message.

Many of the responses I got were addressed to me personally--and so they
never reached the persdon they were intended for or the List membership.

Please, if you have info for the Appel- Eppel- or whatever -baum family,
send it to the persons who asked, not by a bystander who innocently
thought he could help. This isn't the first time it's happened to me, and
I'm sure it's happened to many other people who wanted to be helpful.

And please, remember, I know nothin at all about any APPEL- or EPPEL
family. I had originally tried to be helpful, I subsequently tried to be
polite to all who wrote to tell them they have the wrong guy. Don't
misaddress any other messages to me. I won't even bother to open them.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>


Re: 1880 census now online #general

Marty <marty@...>
 

The 1880 indexed census mentioned by Rich is wonderful.
Thanks for the heads up!

Does anyone know how to take the film number and page number returned by
the LDS index and use it to view the images on ancestry.com??

For example, I would like to see
NA Film Number T9-0875 Page Number 509A

Thanks,
Marty

--
Marty Meyers
<meyers01@comcast.net>


Rabbi Simon WEINSTEIN, Cairo, Egypt #general

Rubin and Litman <brubin@...>
 

I am looking to contact descendants of Rabbi Simon WEINSTEIN >from Cairo,
Egypt.
He had 10 or 11 children. Some of them moved to Cleveland, Ohio USA,
New London, CT, USA; London, England, France, Israel.

Please contact me privately,

Thank you.

-Bill Rubin
Arlington, MA USA
brubin@world.std.com


LESSOR - New York City, St.Louis, southern states
ROSEBERG - New York City LITMAN - Kiev, Ukarine
MYERS - London, Liverpool
Eishishok - SCHRIBER, FINESCHRIBER, SKOLNICK
Lida - CHIGOROVICH, FURMAN, GORAVICH, HOROWITZ,SCHRIBER, SKOLNICK,
WOLCHUCK

Searching list truncated at permitted six lines -- Mod.


Seeking lookup and callup in Tel Aviv #general

Steven Garber <shgarber@...>
 

Dear friends,
I just learned of a relative >from another relative who met him, once,
thirty years ago. She also met his parents in Israel. Well, I have his
and his wife's name and partial address. I'd especially like to pass on a
message to him and get his email address (as well as phone no. and zip
code).
Please reply privately to me. Thanks!

Steve Garber, of Denver
Researching:
GARBER (Staryy Chartoriysk, Ukraine)
BAR (Kolki, Ukraine (near Lutsk)). GLASER (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine)
LIFSCHES/LIFSCHITZ (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine; Israel)
ZLOCZOWER (Vizhnitsa, Vashkovtsy, Milie, Ispas, Czarnohuzy, Chernovtsy
(all formerly in North Bukovina), Ukraine; Israel, elsewhere).
CHERGER (Staryy Chartoriysk/Lutsk area, Ukraine)


Looking for TUTNAUER #general

Gelio@...
 

Thanks to all for your help; I now have a location for this family.

Jane Emanuel
Lafayette, CA
Searching SHRAGGE, SCHRAGE


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen *Read* your posting, *know* who sent what #general

MBernet@...
 

Someone recently posted a query about a family named EPPELBAUM somewhere
in Poland. I thought I'd be helpful and pointed out various alternate
name spellings to check for. Alas, I am no Newton, but since that mement
I have been showered with fruit >from every *apple tree*.

Please, folk, don't simply click the "reply" button when you think you
have something momentous to tell--make sure you know whom the original
message or inquiry actually came >from (It's there, right on the first line
of the message "In a message dated . . . xyz@klm.com writes"). Don't
simply reply to the person who signs the message.

Many of the responses I got were addressed to me personally--and so they
never reached the persdon they were intended for or the List membership.

Please, if you have info for the Appel- Eppel- or whatever -baum family,
send it to the persons who asked, not by a bystander who innocently
thought he could help. This isn't the first time it's happened to me, and
I'm sure it's happened to many other people who wanted to be helpful.

And please, remember, I know nothin at all about any APPEL- or EPPEL
family. I had originally tried to be helpful, I subsequently tried to be
polite to all who wrote to tell them they have the wrong guy. Don't
misaddress any other messages to me. I won't even bother to open them.

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1880 census now online #general

Marty <marty@...>
 

The 1880 indexed census mentioned by Rich is wonderful.
Thanks for the heads up!

Does anyone know how to take the film number and page number returned by
the LDS index and use it to view the images on ancestry.com??

For example, I would like to see
NA Film Number T9-0875 Page Number 509A

Thanks,
Marty

--
Marty Meyers
<meyers01@comcast.net>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Simon WEINSTEIN, Cairo, Egypt #general

Rubin and Litman <brubin@...>
 

I am looking to contact descendants of Rabbi Simon WEINSTEIN >from Cairo,
Egypt.
He had 10 or 11 children. Some of them moved to Cleveland, Ohio USA,
New London, CT, USA; London, England, France, Israel.

Please contact me privately,

Thank you.

-Bill Rubin
Arlington, MA USA
brubin@world.std.com


LESSOR - New York City, St.Louis, southern states
ROSEBERG - New York City LITMAN - Kiev, Ukarine
MYERS - London, Liverpool
Eishishok - SCHRIBER, FINESCHRIBER, SKOLNICK
Lida - CHIGOROVICH, FURMAN, GORAVICH, HOROWITZ,SCHRIBER, SKOLNICK,
WOLCHUCK

Searching list truncated at permitted six lines -- Mod.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking lookup and callup in Tel Aviv #general

Steven Garber <shgarber@...>
 

Dear friends,
I just learned of a relative >from another relative who met him, once,
thirty years ago. She also met his parents in Israel. Well, I have his
and his wife's name and partial address. I'd especially like to pass on a
message to him and get his email address (as well as phone no. and zip
code).
Please reply privately to me. Thanks!

Steve Garber, of Denver
Researching:
GARBER (Staryy Chartoriysk, Ukraine)
BAR (Kolki, Ukraine (near Lutsk)). GLASER (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine)
LIFSCHES/LIFSCHITZ (Vashkovtsy, Ukraine; Israel)
ZLOCZOWER (Vizhnitsa, Vashkovtsy, Milie, Ispas, Czarnohuzy, Chernovtsy
(all formerly in North Bukovina), Ukraine; Israel, elsewhere).
CHERGER (Staryy Chartoriysk/Lutsk area, Ukraine)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for TUTNAUER #general

Gelio@...
 

Thanks to all for your help; I now have a location for this family.

Jane Emanuel
Lafayette, CA
Searching SHRAGGE, SCHRAGE


Jewish Orphanages in the US Update. #general

MSpearssol@...
 

Many new additions have been added to my web site, HNOH Welcome-Jewish
Orphanages in the United States at http://shell4.bayarea.net/~elias/hnoh/

---On the Federal and State Census Page, census information has been added
for the following orphanages:

1930 Mark Nathan Home Chicago, IL
1930 Chicago Home for Jewish Children - Chicago, IL
1930 Census Orthodox Jewish Orphan Home - Cleveland, OH
1930 Census Jewish Orphan Home--Bellefaire, University Heights, OH
1930 Hebrew Home for Destitute Children- Boston, MA
1930 Census Enumeration Districts for Various Institutions - Bronx &
Manhattan, NY
1920 Hebrew Orphan's Home - Atlanta, GA
1920 Jewish Infant Orphan Home - Cleveland, OH
1920 Jewish Orphan Asylum - Cleveland Ohio
1920 Federal census in the Hebrew Sheltering Guardian Society - Mount
Pleasant, NY
1900 Chicago Home for Jewish Children - Chicago, IL
1900 Jewish Widows and Orphans Home - New Orleans, LA
1900 Hebrew Orphan Asylum - Baltimore, MD
1900 Jewish Foster Home - Cincinnati, OH

---Jewish Orphanages Page has new information for the cities of:
Baltimore, MD plus (new photo)
Boston, MA (new orphanage)
Brookline, MA (new orphanage)
Chicago, IL plus (new class photo)
San Francisco, CA

---Alumni Reunion Search Page
New searches have been listed. Someone might be looking for you!!!

__Pride of Judea Orphan Home Page has new information added.

---Orphan Archives: Records & Holding Page, free lookups added

---Jewish Genealogy Resources and Other Genealogical Resources Pages,
include new and corrected URLS. Check out over 2500 URLs connecting to
thousands more sites for researching.

Check it out! :o)

Marge-Spears Soloff
Orlando, FL
MSpearssol@aol.com
Website: HNOH Welcome - Jewish Orphanages in the United States
http://shell4.bayarea.net/~elias/hnoh/
HNOHalumni@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Orphanages in the US Update. #general

MSpearssol@...
 

Many new additions have been added to my web site, HNOH Welcome-Jewish
Orphanages in the United States at http://shell4.bayarea.net/~elias/hnoh/

---On the Federal and State Census Page, census information has been added
for the following orphanages:

1930 Mark Nathan Home Chicago, IL
1930 Chicago Home for Jewish Children - Chicago, IL
1930 Census Orthodox Jewish Orphan Home - Cleveland, OH
1930 Census Jewish Orphan Home--Bellefaire, University Heights, OH
1930 Hebrew Home for Destitute Children- Boston, MA
1930 Census Enumeration Districts for Various Institutions - Bronx &
Manhattan, NY
1920 Hebrew Orphan's Home - Atlanta, GA
1920 Jewish Infant Orphan Home - Cleveland, OH
1920 Jewish Orphan Asylum - Cleveland Ohio
1920 Federal census in the Hebrew Sheltering Guardian Society - Mount
Pleasant, NY
1900 Chicago Home for Jewish Children - Chicago, IL
1900 Jewish Widows and Orphans Home - New Orleans, LA
1900 Hebrew Orphan Asylum - Baltimore, MD
1900 Jewish Foster Home - Cincinnati, OH

---Jewish Orphanages Page has new information for the cities of:
Baltimore, MD plus (new photo)
Boston, MA (new orphanage)
Brookline, MA (new orphanage)
Chicago, IL plus (new class photo)
San Francisco, CA

---Alumni Reunion Search Page
New searches have been listed. Someone might be looking for you!!!

__Pride of Judea Orphan Home Page has new information added.

---Orphan Archives: Records & Holding Page, free lookups added

---Jewish Genealogy Resources and Other Genealogical Resources Pages,
include new and corrected URLS. Check out over 2500 URLs connecting to
thousands more sites for researching.

Check it out! :o)

Marge-Spears Soloff
Orlando, FL
MSpearssol@aol.com
Website: HNOH Welcome - Jewish Orphanages in the United States
http://shell4.bayarea.net/~elias/hnoh/
HNOHalumni@aol.com


CONCENTRATION CAMPS #lithuania

Malroots@...
 

Thanks for all the information and suggestions. I learned
alot >from reading your letters.


Marilyn Achbar Cooper Hall
Coventry, CT.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania CONCENTRATION CAMPS #lithuania

Malroots@...
 

Thanks for all the information and suggestions. I learned
alot >from reading your letters.


Marilyn Achbar Cooper Hall
Coventry, CT.


Difficult research problem in London #unitedkingdom

Linda Altman <altmanlh@...>
 

I have a brick wall and I am hoping that someone out there can help. My problem
is searching for documents in London for my great grandfather Barnet(t) Shapiro.
Here is what I am told, most of this so far is documented:

Barnet(t) SHAPRIO born about 1880 in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland. His birth name
was Benzion SZABAS. He was the son of Nathan SHAPIRO (known in Poland as Nissan
Zev SZABAS, nickname was Nitsky) and an unknown woman. About 1888, Barnet was
sent >from Poland to London, England. He was educated there and apprenticed to be
a baker there. In 1903, he left the UK >from Liverpool and immigrated to the US
(passenger manifests confirm this). I can trace him in the US. Once established
as a baker in New York City, he sent money back to his "adoptive" family in
London. Barnet did not marry, or die in London. Are there school records or
apprenticeship records that can be checked to verify his stay there? He was a
bread baker. He had an uncle who married in Holborn, London in 1911 (certified
copy of marriage record is in my possesion). His name was Jack CHILLAR, a
jeweler, and he married a protestant woman named Dora Ruth BARLOW, daughter of
Horace BARLOW, a commercial traveler. The witnesses to Jack and Dora's marriage
are Barnet MILLER and Golda MILLER.

Does anyone have any idea on how to proceed with my search for Barnet SHAPIRO
a.k.a. Benzio SZABAS, in London? Thanks in advance.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC, USA
altmanlh@directvinternet.com

Researching BARLOW, BERGMAN, SHAPIRO, and SZABAS - London, England


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Difficult research problem in London #unitedkingdom

Linda Altman <altmanlh@...>
 

I have a brick wall and I am hoping that someone out there can help. My problem
is searching for documents in London for my great grandfather Barnet(t) Shapiro.
Here is what I am told, most of this so far is documented:

Barnet(t) SHAPRIO born about 1880 in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland. His birth name
was Benzion SZABAS. He was the son of Nathan SHAPIRO (known in Poland as Nissan
Zev SZABAS, nickname was Nitsky) and an unknown woman. About 1888, Barnet was
sent >from Poland to London, England. He was educated there and apprenticed to be
a baker there. In 1903, he left the UK >from Liverpool and immigrated to the US
(passenger manifests confirm this). I can trace him in the US. Once established
as a baker in New York City, he sent money back to his "adoptive" family in
London. Barnet did not marry, or die in London. Are there school records or
apprenticeship records that can be checked to verify his stay there? He was a
bread baker. He had an uncle who married in Holborn, London in 1911 (certified
copy of marriage record is in my possesion). His name was Jack CHILLAR, a
jeweler, and he married a protestant woman named Dora Ruth BARLOW, daughter of
Horace BARLOW, a commercial traveler. The witnesses to Jack and Dora's marriage
are Barnet MILLER and Golda MILLER.

Does anyone have any idea on how to proceed with my search for Barnet SHAPIRO
a.k.a. Benzio SZABAS, in London? Thanks in advance.

Linda Altman - Raleigh, NC, USA
altmanlh@directvinternet.com

Researching BARLOW, BERGMAN, SHAPIRO, and SZABAS - London, England


Re: ALTMAN & KRAMER #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Katarina:

As before, let me remind you:

---Many Jews lived in Germany.---

In much of Germany, Jews did not have fixed surnames until 1812 or even
later. At that time, German Jews took all kinds of surnames.

Many of these names were based on the profession of the person taking
the name. Someone who ran a small shop might well have called himself
Kramer or Kraemer.

As for "Altmann", there are plenty of records of Jews taking that name.
There's no reason to expect any name (except perhaps Kohn) to be truly
"Jewish".

My great-great-grandmother Friederike Altmann was Jewish. Her father,
Leopold Altmann, was also Jewish, and was probably the person who
originally took the name. He and his daughter were not "accepted as
Jewish"--they were Jewish. Names don't have religions--people do.

Who's calling Kramer a "Jewish name"? It's a German name, and some of
the German Jews and German-speaking Jews chose that name.

Or do you mean something else by "100% German"?

Roger Lustig

Katarina wrote:


How your jewish lastmanes have origin >from Germany and other
countries, Kramer is 100% German surname, how you can call it
Jewish, and Altman i didn't find origin but is it possible Altman
is Jewish or just accepted to be Jewish?

Katarina Kreculj


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: ALTMAN & KRAMER #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Dear Katarina:

As before, let me remind you:

---Many Jews lived in Germany.---

In much of Germany, Jews did not have fixed surnames until 1812 or even
later. At that time, German Jews took all kinds of surnames.

Many of these names were based on the profession of the person taking
the name. Someone who ran a small shop might well have called himself
Kramer or Kraemer.

As for "Altmann", there are plenty of records of Jews taking that name.
There's no reason to expect any name (except perhaps Kohn) to be truly
"Jewish".

My great-great-grandmother Friederike Altmann was Jewish. Her father,
Leopold Altmann, was also Jewish, and was probably the person who
originally took the name. He and his daughter were not "accepted as
Jewish"--they were Jewish. Names don't have religions--people do.

Who's calling Kramer a "Jewish name"? It's a German name, and some of
the German Jews and German-speaking Jews chose that name.

Or do you mean something else by "100% German"?

Roger Lustig

Katarina wrote:


How your jewish lastmanes have origin >from Germany and other
countries, Kramer is 100% German surname, how you can call it
Jewish, and Altman i didn't find origin but is it possible Altman
is Jewish or just accepted to be Jewish?

Katarina Kreculj


Your Roots in Canada #general

Scanner <scanner_1998@...>
 

Those interested in your Canadian roots might find the
following site of some interest: "Our Roots: Canada's
Local Histories Online"

<http://www.ourroots.ca/e/home.asp>

The digitization is far >from complete (my ancestral
towns in Alberta are not included yet, for example),
but I found one reference to one of my families that I
didn't know existed. :-)

Enjoy,

Shel Bercovich,
Calgary, AB, Canada

Searching: BERCOVICI, GOLDENBERG, MOSCOVITZ - Darabani, Dorohoi, Iasi,
Havirna & Stefanesti, Romani
ECHTER - Tulchin, Balta, & Krivoye Ozero, Ukraine
KLEBANOV (various spellings),
LIPKIND - Minsk Gubernia; USA
ZWANG - Argentina; Israel; Ukraine


Looking for Judy SACK #general

Michelle Leo <shell-leo@...>
 

I am looking for Judy SACK or her descendants. She is the daughter of
Esther Rolnik, born 9/29/1911, died 4/18/1952 and George SACK. After
Esther's death, George and Judy may have moved to Massachusetts >from New
York City. Esther Rolnik was my grandfather's sister.

Please send any information privately to shell-leo@attbi.com. Thank you in
advance for your help.

Michelle Leo
Verona, PA
shell-leo@attbi.com

ROLNIK-Pinsk, Belarus, USA, SACK-USA, NEEDLEMAN-Narovlya and Mozyr, Belarus,
USA, RAIDER-Belarus, USA, FRIEDMAN-Pinsk, Belarus, New York City, USA.