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People's School? #general

Anna Olswanger <anna.olswanger@...>
 

In researching the town of Varniai in Lithuania, a translator
provided this description of the town >from Slownik Geograficzny
Krolestwa Polskiego i Innych Krajow Slowianskich [Geographical
Dictionary of the Kingdom of Poland and Other Slavonic
Countries], published in 1880:

Varniai had 19 houses, 205 inhabitants, a [Russian Orthodox]
church, 8 Catholic churches, 3 synagogues, a people's school, a
post and telegraph office, 49 stores, and a few small industries.
Market days were every Tuesday and Friday. Fairs (bazaars) were
held on March 19, June 27, and September 8.

Does anyone know what the term "people's school" means?

Thanks if you can help.

Anna Olswanger (researching Alschwanger/Olschwanger in Kretinga
and Varniai, Lithuania)

Anna Olswanger Books
http://www.olswanger.com


Immigration Records-SAMUEL SIEGEL #general

Marilyn Siegel <jadzgran@...>
 

Hi All,
I have been trying to find my father-in-law, and his family's arrival in
the U.S,I have searched and searched the Ellis Island and other sites, with
every variation on spelling I could think of, and still come up empty. Does
anyone have a source for Russians or anyone coming to the U.S.? I would be
most appreciative for any help.
Samuel (or Sam) SIEGEL (or perhaps SEGALOVITCH)
Born in Minsk, I think Uzda, Russia, about 1893.
Emigrated to the U.S. in about 1913 or 1914, at about age 20.
He was ordained as a Rabbi (or Reverend) in Russia.
His father's name was Shimon or Simon.

Wife Doris, nee Magilenski, and daughter Bess emigrated about 8 years
later, 1921 or 1922.
Doris was born in Uzda, also in 1893.
Bess (Bashe Miriam) was born in Russia in 1913.

Samuel's father, shimon Siegel was born about 1848, and was a Rabbi. He
may have arrived in 1921 or earlier.

I have been told that Samuel returned to Russia with his brother,
Schleime, to bring over their sister, Florence. so there should be 2
entries to the U.S. for Samuel. I have also been told that, with Florence,
they landed in N.Y. at the former site of Castle Garden.

It has been quite frustrating trying to find these elusive relatives,
and I would be thrilled and thankful for any help.
Marilyn S. in Fl.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen People's School? #general

Anna Olswanger <anna.olswanger@...>
 

In researching the town of Varniai in Lithuania, a translator
provided this description of the town >from Slownik Geograficzny
Krolestwa Polskiego i Innych Krajow Slowianskich [Geographical
Dictionary of the Kingdom of Poland and Other Slavonic
Countries], published in 1880:

Varniai had 19 houses, 205 inhabitants, a [Russian Orthodox]
church, 8 Catholic churches, 3 synagogues, a people's school, a
post and telegraph office, 49 stores, and a few small industries.
Market days were every Tuesday and Friday. Fairs (bazaars) were
held on March 19, June 27, and September 8.

Does anyone know what the term "people's school" means?

Thanks if you can help.

Anna Olswanger (researching Alschwanger/Olschwanger in Kretinga
and Varniai, Lithuania)

Anna Olswanger Books
http://www.olswanger.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Immigration Records-SAMUEL SIEGEL #general

Marilyn Siegel <jadzgran@...>
 

Hi All,
I have been trying to find my father-in-law, and his family's arrival in
the U.S,I have searched and searched the Ellis Island and other sites, with
every variation on spelling I could think of, and still come up empty. Does
anyone have a source for Russians or anyone coming to the U.S.? I would be
most appreciative for any help.
Samuel (or Sam) SIEGEL (or perhaps SEGALOVITCH)
Born in Minsk, I think Uzda, Russia, about 1893.
Emigrated to the U.S. in about 1913 or 1914, at about age 20.
He was ordained as a Rabbi (or Reverend) in Russia.
His father's name was Shimon or Simon.

Wife Doris, nee Magilenski, and daughter Bess emigrated about 8 years
later, 1921 or 1922.
Doris was born in Uzda, also in 1893.
Bess (Bashe Miriam) was born in Russia in 1913.

Samuel's father, shimon Siegel was born about 1848, and was a Rabbi. He
may have arrived in 1921 or earlier.

I have been told that Samuel returned to Russia with his brother,
Schleime, to bring over their sister, Florence. so there should be 2
entries to the U.S. for Samuel. I have also been told that, with Florence,
they landed in N.Y. at the former site of Castle Garden.

It has been quite frustrating trying to find these elusive relatives,
and I would be thrilled and thankful for any help.
Marilyn S. in Fl.


New to list-in need of advice #ukraine

Kelly Collins <Nibdipper@...>
 

Greetings list members,

I am desperately trying to find information on the family of my
husband's grandfather, Leo SINGER. What I know of Leo, is that he came to
the United States in 1913. His given name is listed on his "Declaration of
Intention" as Laub WILSHONSKY. He joined the US Cavalry in World War I and
his discharge papers also reflect this name. He came >from Kiev, Russia
and lived in Newark, New Jersey, where he became a fireman in 1928, at
which time he changed his name legally >from Laub WILSHONSKY to Leo SINGER.
None of his paper work, reflects his parents names. I know that he had 2
brothers, Max and Saul SINGER (given names >from the home country unknown).
I tried to further my research, looking for information on Max SINGER,
who very kindly shows up in census records. To that end, I have come across
information online suggesting that the parents names were Morris and
Anna (nee STULBERG) WILSHINSKY.
With both surnames, WILSHONSKY and WILSHINSKY, I have been currently
unable to find Ellis Island information on any family members. I do know
for certain that Leo came through Ellis Island and I have tried variations
of spelling, only to come up empty handed. In trying to locate the
surname online, WILSHINSKY is the only one that gets any hits, however,
nothing definitive or helpful in my search.
Is there anyone who might have information on this family or would be
able to guide me in where to look in other sources or possibly insight
on the variations of spelling for the surname in Russia? I know all this
is very generalized and being new to research overseas, I am very unsure
in my footing. Any assistance will be gratefully appreciated. Thank you
all, so much for your time.

Sincerely,
Kelly Collins


Moderator's Note:
Most of JewishGen's databases use the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system for
searching, which takes various spellings into account. The advanced search
ability allows you to enclose characters of the name being searched in
brackets signifying that the letter should not be soundexed but must
appear as is. So, for starters, please try - JewishGen InfoFile Index:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine New to list-in need of advice #ukraine

Kelly Collins <Nibdipper@...>
 

Greetings list members,

I am desperately trying to find information on the family of my
husband's grandfather, Leo SINGER. What I know of Leo, is that he came to
the United States in 1913. His given name is listed on his "Declaration of
Intention" as Laub WILSHONSKY. He joined the US Cavalry in World War I and
his discharge papers also reflect this name. He came >from Kiev, Russia
and lived in Newark, New Jersey, where he became a fireman in 1928, at
which time he changed his name legally >from Laub WILSHONSKY to Leo SINGER.
None of his paper work, reflects his parents names. I know that he had 2
brothers, Max and Saul SINGER (given names >from the home country unknown).
I tried to further my research, looking for information on Max SINGER,
who very kindly shows up in census records. To that end, I have come across
information online suggesting that the parents names were Morris and
Anna (nee STULBERG) WILSHINSKY.
With both surnames, WILSHONSKY and WILSHINSKY, I have been currently
unable to find Ellis Island information on any family members. I do know
for certain that Leo came through Ellis Island and I have tried variations
of spelling, only to come up empty handed. In trying to locate the
surname online, WILSHINSKY is the only one that gets any hits, however,
nothing definitive or helpful in my search.
Is there anyone who might have information on this family or would be
able to guide me in where to look in other sources or possibly insight
on the variations of spelling for the surname in Russia? I know all this
is very generalized and being new to research overseas, I am very unsure
in my footing. Any assistance will be gratefully appreciated. Thank you
all, so much for your time.

Sincerely,
Kelly Collins


Moderator's Note:
Most of JewishGen's databases use the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system for
searching, which takes various spellings into account. The advanced search
ability allows you to enclose characters of the name being searched in
brackets signifying that the letter should not be soundexed but must
appear as is. So, for starters, please try - JewishGen InfoFile Index:
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/


Can someone help please #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Hello Friends
I was excited to receive my fathers resume as he was applying for a job in
the "Magistrat city of Plock". In it he mentions He finished "szkole realna"
in Wloclawek and Mantinband's bookkeeping classes (kursy buchalteryjne) in
Lodz.
Then he goes on "I practiced as a bookkeeper apprentice in Lodz for the Firm
Leon Rapoport and son. ( dom Handlowo Expedycyjny ) (in the year 1916)"
Is anybody familiar with this school or business? Is any of it mentioned
anywhere that I may be able to look up?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com


GOLDEMBERG/GOLDBERG #general

JANICE GOLDMAN <jg2333@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I am seeking to locate the descendants of the following
GOLDBERG/GOLDENBERG/GOLDEMBERG families:
- Hannah
- David
- Jack
- Maurice (or Morris)
- Sarina (or similar)
- Esther
They were >from Romania/Turkey.
Thank you very much.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Can someone help please #general

Lili Susser <susserl@...>
 

Hello Friends
I was excited to receive my fathers resume as he was applying for a job in
the "Magistrat city of Plock". In it he mentions He finished "szkole realna"
in Wloclawek and Mantinband's bookkeeping classes (kursy buchalteryjne) in
Lodz.
Then he goes on "I practiced as a bookkeeper apprentice in Lodz for the Firm
Leon Rapoport and son. ( dom Handlowo Expedycyjny ) (in the year 1916)"
Is anybody familiar with this school or business? Is any of it mentioned
anywhere that I may be able to look up?
Any help will be greatly appreciated
Lili Susser
susserl@attbi.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GOLDEMBERG/GOLDBERG #general

JANICE GOLDMAN <jg2333@...>
 

Dear Jewishgenners:
I am seeking to locate the descendants of the following
GOLDBERG/GOLDENBERG/GOLDEMBERG families:
- Hannah
- David
- Jack
- Maurice (or Morris)
- Sarina (or similar)
- Esther
They were >from Romania/Turkey.
Thank you very much.
Janice Goldman
jg2333@msn.com
Chicago, IL USA


Family History Center in NYC #rabbinic

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan
(near Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will
not re-open for at least six months. They are doing construction on
upper floors and need to build an elevator shaft right through the
microfilm area. Although currently still open, they are not ordering
any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite
loan at the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an
order. I needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It
was not on the list and also not listed in their "front" system. I
told them that I thought somebody recently viewed the film. They
went into the "back" and told me that in fact they did have the
film, not in the "numbered" draws, but in the "alphabetized" draws.
Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and
does have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
mailto:moishe@langsam.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Family History Center in NYC #rabbinic

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan
(near Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will
not re-open for at least six months. They are doing construction on
upper floors and need to build an elevator shaft right through the
microfilm area. Although currently still open, they are not ordering
any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite
loan at the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an
order. I needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It
was not on the list and also not listed in their "front" system. I
told them that I thought somebody recently viewed the film. They
went into the "back" and told me that in fact they did have the
film, not in the "numbered" draws, but in the "alphabetized" draws.
Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and
does have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
mailto:moishe@langsam.com


Re: Trencsen records #hungary

Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
 

It seems to me that the records obtained by Robert Hanscom should eventually
be made available as part of the Hungarian database project. I know this
means help >from the group and I am willing though not very good on computers
or Excel, etc. I guess donations would also help - and wish it were a bit
easier for Canadians to make their donations tax deductible. As it is, the
rules only allow Canadians to claim for donations to US charities (or 501
(c) 3 organizations) if they have income >from the US.

Anyway, a donation it will be >from me after I return >from Israel to where I
am heading this week.

Regards to all,
Judy

Judy Young
jy-abcd@cyberus.ca

Moderator VK: Donations to JewishGen are always welcome and can be earmarked for H-SIG. Carol Robinson, the All-Hungary Database Coordinator <caroljr@attbi.com> has offered to work with volunteers who are interested in organizing a research group to undertake a Trencin transcription project. After someone volunteers to serve as coordinator for this effort, Carol will help the group to develop a research strategy, design a database template, and prepare a proposal to JewishGen. Once a project is established, donors will be able to tag contributions to help pay for duplication of records and other expenses including the cost of uploading and maintaining the data on-line.


Re: A "gold mine" of Jewish census records (1795-1821) #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

The Trencin [Trencsen] county records obtained by Robert Hanscom >from the Hungarian
Archives are indeed treasures. I'd like to share a few thoughts regarding next steps.

LitvakSIG gives us a model of organizing area research groups to further research in
specific towns or counties. It would be great if individuals interested in Trencin
[Trencsen] county would form a research group to transcribe the data obtained by Robert.
This will happen if someone volunteers to coordinate the project and if there are
volunteers willing to transcribe data. I would work with the group to develop a data
strategy and template(s), to write a proposal to JewishGen, to work with JewishGen staff to
obtain permission to use the data and to see this project through its eventual inclusion in
the All Hungary Database.

Robert's success suggests that there might be similar records available for other
geographic areas within Hungary. We could certainly form other county research groups to
focus on transcribing records of specific areas, if there is interest. Our current
projects, the 1828 census and the 1848 census projects, are only partially completed, and
additional volunteers are needed to keep these projects moving forward as well. The more
volunteers we have, the faster the data will be available through the All Hungary Database.

If there are volunteers to coordinate and/or transcribe Trencin [Trencsen] county records,
let me know at caroljr@attbi.com.

Regards,

Carol Robinson, Coordinator
All Hungary Database


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Trencsen records #hungary

Judy Young <jy-abcd@...>
 

It seems to me that the records obtained by Robert Hanscom should eventually
be made available as part of the Hungarian database project. I know this
means help >from the group and I am willing though not very good on computers
or Excel, etc. I guess donations would also help - and wish it were a bit
easier for Canadians to make their donations tax deductible. As it is, the
rules only allow Canadians to claim for donations to US charities (or 501
(c) 3 organizations) if they have income >from the US.

Anyway, a donation it will be >from me after I return >from Israel to where I
am heading this week.

Regards to all,
Judy

Judy Young
jy-abcd@cyberus.ca

Moderator VK: Donations to JewishGen are always welcome and can be earmarked for H-SIG. Carol Robinson, the All-Hungary Database Coordinator <caroljr@attbi.com> has offered to work with volunteers who are interested in organizing a research group to undertake a Trencin transcription project. After someone volunteers to serve as coordinator for this effort, Carol will help the group to develop a research strategy, design a database template, and prepare a proposal to JewishGen. Once a project is established, donors will be able to tag contributions to help pay for duplication of records and other expenses including the cost of uploading and maintaining the data on-line.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: A "gold mine" of Jewish census records (1795-1821) #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

The Trencin [Trencsen] county records obtained by Robert Hanscom >from the Hungarian
Archives are indeed treasures. I'd like to share a few thoughts regarding next steps.

LitvakSIG gives us a model of organizing area research groups to further research in
specific towns or counties. It would be great if individuals interested in Trencin
[Trencsen] county would form a research group to transcribe the data obtained by Robert.
This will happen if someone volunteers to coordinate the project and if there are
volunteers willing to transcribe data. I would work with the group to develop a data
strategy and template(s), to write a proposal to JewishGen, to work with JewishGen staff to
obtain permission to use the data and to see this project through its eventual inclusion in
the All Hungary Database.

Robert's success suggests that there might be similar records available for other
geographic areas within Hungary. We could certainly form other county research groups to
focus on transcribing records of specific areas, if there is interest. Our current
projects, the 1828 census and the 1848 census projects, are only partially completed, and
additional volunteers are needed to keep these projects moving forward as well. The more
volunteers we have, the faster the data will be available through the All Hungary Database.

If there are volunteers to coordinate and/or transcribe Trencin [Trencsen] county records,
let me know at caroljr@attbi.com.

Regards,

Carol Robinson, Coordinator
All Hungary Database


1848 Census #hungary

ron <ruebin7@...>
 

I have been searching for my GG parents on the 1848 Census off Hungary.I
scrolled through all the names and of all the towns.I see no reference to
GYOR.....I understand that was quite a vibrant Jewish Community..
My GGMother Bertha STRASSER was born in 1843,and lived in Gyor, I can find
no record of this.I have found record of her on the GYOR website where
there is a photo of her grave.She married in Gyor a Lipot GOLD, again I can
find no reference of any GOLD's in the 1848 Census, either of Lipot or his
parents.
Can anyone please let me know why they would not appear on that census?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
Ron Bower
Melbourne AUSTRALIA

Moderator VK: According to the FHL catalog, records >from the city (varos) of Gyor are included in Europe Film #0719823 and records >from other places in the county (megye) are on Film #0719824. You should be aware, however, that the FHL has not filmed all of the records >from the 1848 Jewish Census. Other records are apparently available in Budapest at the State Archives or >from the Jewish archives.


Hungary SIG #Hungary 1848 Census #hungary

ron <ruebin7@...>
 

I have been searching for my GG parents on the 1848 Census off Hungary.I
scrolled through all the names and of all the towns.I see no reference to
GYOR.....I understand that was quite a vibrant Jewish Community..
My GGMother Bertha STRASSER was born in 1843,and lived in Gyor, I can find
no record of this.I have found record of her on the GYOR website where
there is a photo of her grave.She married in Gyor a Lipot GOLD, again I can
find no reference of any GOLD's in the 1848 Census, either of Lipot or his
parents.
Can anyone please let me know why they would not appear on that census?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
Ron Bower
Melbourne AUSTRALIA

Moderator VK: According to the FHL catalog, records >from the city (varos) of Gyor are included in Europe Film #0719823 and records >from other places in the county (megye) are on Film #0719824. You should be aware, however, that the FHL has not filmed all of the records >from the 1848 Jewish Census. Other records are apparently available in Budapest at the State Archives or >from the Jewish archives.


Family History Center in NYC #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan (near
Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will not re-open
for at least six months. They are doing construction on upper floors and
need to build an elevator shaft right through the microfilm area. Although
currently still open, they are not ordering any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite loan at
the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an order. I
needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It was not on the
list and also not listed in their "front" system. I told them that I
thought somebody recently viewed the film. They went into the "back" and
told me that in fact they did have the film, not in the "numbered" draws,
but in the "alphabetized" draws. Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and does
have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
moishe@langsam.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Family History Center in NYC #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Just as an FYI to the group, the family History Center in Manhattan (near
Lincoln Center) will be closing on December 1, 2002. They will not re-open
for at least six months. They are doing construction on upper floors and
need to build an elevator shaft right through the microfilm area. Although
currently still open, they are not ordering any new microfilms at this time.

Also, the list of microfilm and microfiche inventory on indefinite loan at
the family History Center in Manhattan, available at
http://www.jgsny.org/fhc.htm
is out of date. Be sure to ask the librarian before placing an order. I
needed a film for 1884 for Checiny, Kielce area, Poland. It was not on the
list and also not listed in their "front" system. I told them that I
thought somebody recently viewed the film. They went into the "back" and
told me that in fact they did have the film, not in the "numbered" draws,
but in the "alphabetized" draws. Just some friendly advice.

The Brooklyn FHC is open three days a week (Tuesday 10am - 8pm) and does
have microfilm readers and printers.

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn NY
moishe@langsam.com