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attachments #ukraine

William Copulsky <wcopulsky@...>
 

you say you don't send attachments.
it's my impression that the weekly digests come as attachments
bill c.

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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine attachments #ukraine

William Copulsky <wcopulsky@...>
 

you say you don't send attachments.
it's my impression that the weekly digests come as attachments
bill c.

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Re: More on Hebrew Genealogical Terms #general

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

Many thanks to those who replied to my query. Unfortunately,
I apparently didn't make my question clear - I understand the
vagaries of the genealogy - in English. My question was how
do they translate to Hebrew. So far, the consensus seems to
be that classic Hebrew does not have any such terms. Some have
pointed out that this might be due to cultural emphases. My
initial thought, though, would be that Jews have traditionally
put value on ancestry and genealogy, so that there should indeed
be terms. Dr. Bernet & Stan Goodman, though, pointed out the
Biblical injunctions against marrying certain relatives,
injunctions that go one way but not necessarily the other (e.g.
a woman may marry her uncle, but a man may not marry his aunt)
so therefore it would be more important to "spell out" the
relationship, rather than having a "shortcut" such as "first
cousin 4 times removed". That would explain the "classic"
Hebrew of the Bible - and probably most of the classic Hebrew
sources since then. Does anyone know of a more modern terminology
that might perhaps give us the translations?
David Framowitz sent me this answer:
First cousin - Ben (or Bat) Dod
First cousin once removed - Ben Ben Dod (et al)
Second cousin - Ben Dodan Ha'Em (or Ha'Av)
or - shlishi b'shlishi (which I didn't quite get but I asked him
to clarify).
In short, if anyone has connections with the Hebrew Language
Academy, can they ask them?
Thanks -
Jane Vogel-Kohai
Jerusalem Israel


*Huge* mistake-Charlestown, MA, 1930 census #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would like to thank those of you who responded to my query.
But, I am extremely embarrassed to say that I made a mistake,
and meant to type "1920" rather than 1930. Sometimes you spend
hours in research, and your brain doesn't function anymore!
Anyway, I found the Kupersteins in the 1930 census, but couldn't
find them in the indices for the 1920 census. And I know they
lived in the same area, possibly at the exact same address. I
think Ancestry couldn't read their name.

I am so very sorry!

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill


California 1920s birth or death record? #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for a child (3-4 years old) who was born and died
in Los Angeles, CA, in the early 1920s. I have looked through
an on-line database of deaths in CA for this time period and
can't find him. I have tried spelling the last name, "SCHNIDER"
in various ways. This child's birth and death would have had
to be recorded, wouldn't it? Thank you for any knowledge you
can impart to me.

Please respond privately.

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: More on Hebrew Genealogical Terms #general

Jane Vogel-Kohai & Ofer Kohai <vogelko@...>
 

Many thanks to those who replied to my query. Unfortunately,
I apparently didn't make my question clear - I understand the
vagaries of the genealogy - in English. My question was how
do they translate to Hebrew. So far, the consensus seems to
be that classic Hebrew does not have any such terms. Some have
pointed out that this might be due to cultural emphases. My
initial thought, though, would be that Jews have traditionally
put value on ancestry and genealogy, so that there should indeed
be terms. Dr. Bernet & Stan Goodman, though, pointed out the
Biblical injunctions against marrying certain relatives,
injunctions that go one way but not necessarily the other (e.g.
a woman may marry her uncle, but a man may not marry his aunt)
so therefore it would be more important to "spell out" the
relationship, rather than having a "shortcut" such as "first
cousin 4 times removed". That would explain the "classic"
Hebrew of the Bible - and probably most of the classic Hebrew
sources since then. Does anyone know of a more modern terminology
that might perhaps give us the translations?
David Framowitz sent me this answer:
First cousin - Ben (or Bat) Dod
First cousin once removed - Ben Ben Dod (et al)
Second cousin - Ben Dodan Ha'Em (or Ha'Av)
or - shlishi b'shlishi (which I didn't quite get but I asked him
to clarify).
In short, if anyone has connections with the Hebrew Language
Academy, can they ask them?
Thanks -
Jane Vogel-Kohai
Jerusalem Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen *Huge* mistake-Charlestown, MA, 1930 census #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I would like to thank those of you who responded to my query.
But, I am extremely embarrassed to say that I made a mistake,
and meant to type "1920" rather than 1930. Sometimes you spend
hours in research, and your brain doesn't function anymore!
Anyway, I found the Kupersteins in the 1930 census, but couldn't
find them in the indices for the 1920 census. And I know they
lived in the same area, possibly at the exact same address. I
think Ancestry couldn't read their name.

I am so very sorry!

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen California 1920s birth or death record? #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for a child (3-4 years old) who was born and died
in Los Angeles, CA, in the early 1920s. I have looked through
an on-line database of deaths in CA for this time period and
can't find him. I have tried spelling the last name, "SCHNIDER"
in various ways. This child's birth and death would have had
to be recorded, wouldn't it? Thank you for any knowledge you
can impart to me.

Please respond privately.

Sincerely,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Seeking family of London Blitz bomb victim Nat JACOBS #general

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for the family of Nat and Mary JACOBS. Nat was a
fishmonger in Bethnal Green and was killed by a bomb in 1940
or 1941. He was born at the turn of the century and his
siblings were Frieda and Harry JACOBS.

Nat and Mary had four children, two girls and two boys:
Anita who served in the ATS during WWII and probably emigrated
to the USA; David; Jack (perhaps, not sure about name); A girl
with a name beginning with M

Please contact me privately if you know this family, as a
non-internet cousin is looking for them.

Alice Josephs
UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking family of London Blitz bomb victim Nat JACOBS #general

A J <genealicej@...>
 

Looking for the family of Nat and Mary JACOBS. Nat was a
fishmonger in Bethnal Green and was killed by a bomb in 1940
or 1941. He was born at the turn of the century and his
siblings were Frieda and Harry JACOBS.

Nat and Mary had four children, two girls and two boys:
Anita who served in the ATS during WWII and probably emigrated
to the USA; David; Jack (perhaps, not sure about name); A girl
with a name beginning with M

Please contact me privately if you know this family, as a
non-internet cousin is looking for them.

Alice Josephs
UK


Re: people killed under Nazis' euthanasia program #general

Michael McTeer <desrx@...>
 

In response to a posting regarding a news article about
the public reading of victims' names recently in Germany,
I contacted the writer of the article and the German
archives. I received a reply >from the archives but it
is of course in German which I do not read.

Would some kind soul be willing to translate the message
for the benefit of the group?

Thanks,

Michael McTeer
mcteer@mailandnews.com
(archival purposes)

MODERATOR NOTE: Translation offers should be sent privately.


GOLDFARB Family #general

ms nodrog
 

I am trying to locate members of a GOLDFARB family whose
patriarch was Boruch GOLDFARB with son Abraham. They may
have been >from Torchin/Torczyn in the Volhynia district of
the Ukraine (Lutsk). Some of the family eventually settled
in New Haven, Connecticut.

Thanks for any information.

Hope GORDON
msnodrog@yahoo.com


BRENNER of Chelsea and Haverhill, MA #general

MJTuteur@...
 

I am searching for descendants of the Brenner family of
Haverhill, MA. My great grandfather (who lived in Chelsea)
had siblings living in Haverhill >from 1910 on. Most of the
family was in the shoe business. Descendants included ALMAN,
BRONSTEIN and MORRIS.

Amy Brenner Tuteur


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: people killed under Nazis' euthanasia program #general

Michael McTeer <desrx@...>
 

In response to a posting regarding a news article about
the public reading of victims' names recently in Germany,
I contacted the writer of the article and the German
archives. I received a reply >from the archives but it
is of course in German which I do not read.

Would some kind soul be willing to translate the message
for the benefit of the group?

Thanks,

Michael McTeer
mcteer@mailandnews.com
(archival purposes)

MODERATOR NOTE: Translation offers should be sent privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GOLDFARB Family #general

ms nodrog
 

I am trying to locate members of a GOLDFARB family whose
patriarch was Boruch GOLDFARB with son Abraham. They may
have been >from Torchin/Torczyn in the Volhynia district of
the Ukraine (Lutsk). Some of the family eventually settled
in New Haven, Connecticut.

Thanks for any information.

Hope GORDON
msnodrog@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BRENNER of Chelsea and Haverhill, MA #general

MJTuteur@...
 

I am searching for descendants of the Brenner family of
Haverhill, MA. My great grandfather (who lived in Chelsea)
had siblings living in Haverhill >from 1910 on. Most of the
family was in the shoe business. Descendants included ALMAN,
BRONSTEIN and MORRIS.

Amy Brenner Tuteur


Allen and Lawrence EBSTEIN #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevr@...>
 

I am trying to find the whereabouts or fate of the brothers Allen and
Lawrence EBSTEIN or their descendants.

Allen and Lawrence are the sons of Peter Ebstein, b. 1916 in Breslau,
Germany, d. 1998 in NYC. Peter, in turn, was the son of Vally RAPHAEL (my
late father's cousin), b.1886 near Posen, Germany, d. Staten Island NY, and
Paul EBSTEIN.

I would be grateful for any hint. Please write to me. Thanks.

Zeev Raphael, Haifa, Israel eevr@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


German SIG #Germany Allen and Lawrence EBSTEIN #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevr@...>
 

I am trying to find the whereabouts or fate of the brothers Allen and
Lawrence EBSTEIN or their descendants.

Allen and Lawrence are the sons of Peter Ebstein, b. 1916 in Breslau,
Germany, d. 1998 in NYC. Peter, in turn, was the son of Vally RAPHAEL (my
late father's cousin), b.1886 near Posen, Germany, d. Staten Island NY, and
Paul EBSTEIN.

I would be grateful for any hint. Please write to me. Thanks.

Zeev Raphael, Haifa, Israel eevr@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


Postskript to Book about Geroldshausen/Franken #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear GerSIGers,

Since there was some interest in the book I reported on yesterday, I
found two links about it, the first one is about the author's appearance
in the town and provides an abstract of his book in German. This took
place in May 2002.

The "Zeit" review I mentioned describes the event in detail and mentions
that it was boycotted by the city dignitaries. The other one is a short
review of the book by a book seller:

http://www.neuer-weg.com/Veranstaltungen/voelklein.htm

http://www.buchkatalog.de/kod-bin/isuche.exe?field1=SB&caller=
neuerweg&name1=3-88350-119-0

Just in case subsribers are interested in this author who describes how
he as son of an SS man inherits this piece of land in Geroldshausen and
starts to make inquiries about the Jews who lived there (with the only
survivor Heinz Maier) and the families of the perpetrators, among them
one of the leading SS doctors in Auschwitz Wirth whose family is thereby
outed. With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


German SIG #Germany Postskript to Book about Geroldshausen/Franken #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Dear GerSIGers,

Since there was some interest in the book I reported on yesterday, I
found two links about it, the first one is about the author's appearance
in the town and provides an abstract of his book in German. This took
place in May 2002.

The "Zeit" review I mentioned describes the event in detail and mentions
that it was boycotted by the city dignitaries. The other one is a short
review of the book by a book seller:

http://www.neuer-weg.com/Veranstaltungen/voelklein.htm

http://www.buchkatalog.de/kod-bin/isuche.exe?field1=SB&caller=
neuerweg&name1=3-88350-119-0

Just in case subsribers are interested in this author who describes how
he as son of an SS man inherits this piece of land in Geroldshausen and
starts to make inquiries about the Jews who lived there (with the only
survivor Heinz Maier) and the families of the perpetrators, among them
one of the leading SS doctors in Auschwitz Wirth whose family is thereby
outed. With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany