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Smiths from Chicago, possibly Canada #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear genners,
I am trying in vain to find out about two SMITH families.
(1) Israel (Sroel/Shroll)SMITH (peddlar and jack of all trades) married
Elke BERNSTEIN >from Lithuania (probably Zagare). They would have been
born approx. 1870-1880. Their children were Rose, Louis, Edward, Jack,
Sam, Bernard. This family is pretty definitely >from Chicago.


(2) Ritsa BERNSTEIN/BOHRSTEIN married ? SMITH (they would have been born
about 1850) and their progeny were Sophia, Lena, Ben (an electrical
engineer), and Willie. Ritsa was the sister of my great grandfather,
Shmerl BERNSTEIN/BOHRSTEIN >from Zagare, Lithuania.

I hope someone recognizes these people!
Thanks,

Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


Family with surname BLOCK in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called BLOCK?
If so, could they be descended >from Simon & Jennie (Janey) BLOCK?
Simon BLOCK married Jennie (Janey) DOFF in 1930 in London's East End.
Simon BLOCK was a policeman and he & his wife were born approx 1900.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply

Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Wasaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from the Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

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Family with surname FROST in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called FROST?
If so, could you ask if they are related to Gertie DOFF nee FROST?
Gertie FROST (1915-72) married Harry DOFF in 1954 in London's East End.
Rose was the daughter of Solomon FROST and she worked in a grocer's shop.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply


Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Warsaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from Novo Odessa, Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

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Searching for SERRANO #general

LHGarber@...
 

We have reason to believe that the SERRANO family of Mexico had as their
origin been Maranos. Searching for grandfather Julio HERNANDEZ SERRANO, a
graduate of Mexico's West Point, and his son Raul SERRANO who became the
father of Esther SERRANO GLIDDEN.

Gilbert Garber
Lexington, MA
lhgarber@aol.com


Re: Cantonist Decree & Augustow Province #general

M. Ronn
 

Dear JewishGeners:

"Encylcopedia Judaica" states that the cantonist laws did not apply to the
Kingdom of Poland. My understanding is that the Kingdom of Poland at the
time the decree was enacted in 1827 included Augustow province (which was
split after the Polish uprising in the 1850s to two provinces, Augustow
and Suwalki). I would be interested if anyone knows of any historical
information (no family traditions please) regarding whether cantonists
recruits were taken >from the Augustow province (which included the area of
Suwalki). Since I have already looked at quite a number of sources
regarding this topic, I would greatly appreciate your not refering me to
general books on this subject matter unless you can provide a page number
regarding the specific information that I seek.

Please respond to my personal e-mail (in addition to the group).

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY
netronn@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Smiths from Chicago, possibly Canada #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear genners,
I am trying in vain to find out about two SMITH families.
(1) Israel (Sroel/Shroll)SMITH (peddlar and jack of all trades) married
Elke BERNSTEIN >from Lithuania (probably Zagare). They would have been
born approx. 1870-1880. Their children were Rose, Louis, Edward, Jack,
Sam, Bernard. This family is pretty definitely >from Chicago.


(2) Ritsa BERNSTEIN/BOHRSTEIN married ? SMITH (they would have been born
about 1850) and their progeny were Sophia, Lena, Ben (an electrical
engineer), and Willie. Ritsa was the sister of my great grandfather,
Shmerl BERNSTEIN/BOHRSTEIN >from Zagare, Lithuania.

I hope someone recognizes these people!
Thanks,

Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family with surname BLOCK in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called BLOCK?
If so, could they be descended >from Simon & Jennie (Janey) BLOCK?
Simon BLOCK married Jennie (Janey) DOFF in 1930 in London's East End.
Simon BLOCK was a policeman and he & his wife were born approx 1900.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply

Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Wasaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from the Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family with surname FROST in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called FROST?
If so, could you ask if they are related to Gertie DOFF nee FROST?
Gertie FROST (1915-72) married Harry DOFF in 1954 in London's East End.
Rose was the daughter of Solomon FROST and she worked in a grocer's shop.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply


Also searching for surnames:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Warsaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from Novo Odessa, Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for SERRANO #general

LHGarber@...
 

We have reason to believe that the SERRANO family of Mexico had as their
origin been Maranos. Searching for grandfather Julio HERNANDEZ SERRANO, a
graduate of Mexico's West Point, and his son Raul SERRANO who became the
father of Esther SERRANO GLIDDEN.

Gilbert Garber
Lexington, MA
lhgarber@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Cantonist Decree & Augustow Province #general

M. Ronn
 

Dear JewishGeners:

"Encylcopedia Judaica" states that the cantonist laws did not apply to the
Kingdom of Poland. My understanding is that the Kingdom of Poland at the
time the decree was enacted in 1827 included Augustow province (which was
split after the Polish uprising in the 1850s to two provinces, Augustow
and Suwalki). I would be interested if anyone knows of any historical
information (no family traditions please) regarding whether cantonists
recruits were taken >from the Augustow province (which included the area of
Suwalki). Since I have already looked at quite a number of sources
regarding this topic, I would greatly appreciate your not refering me to
general books on this subject matter unless you can provide a page number
regarding the specific information that I seek.

Please respond to my personal e-mail (in addition to the group).

Thank you,

Michoel Ronn
Brooklyn, NY
netronn@hotmail.com


Family with surname SALMON in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called SALMON?
If so, could they be related to Simon/Sidney and Mary SALMON?
Sid/Simon SALMON married Mary DOFF in 1932 in London's East End.
If it helps, he was a jewellery salesman.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply


Also searching for families:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Warsaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from Novo Odessa, Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Re: Pronunciation of Jetta? #general

Herb <herbiem@...>
 

The pronounced is Yetta. This is a common name for Jewish women. In
Hungary and other countries the J is pronounced as a Y. Many Yettas are
called Ethel in the U.S., but any name could be selected.including Ida.

--

Herb Meyers
Boulder, CO
herbiem@mindspring.com

My g-g-g'father's sister was named Jetta according to her birth
certificate, but she is enumerated in the 1880 census as Ida. I was
wondering if possibly the census taker misunderstood Jetta as "Ida" or
if Ida was a "nickname" of sorts. I have no idea how Jetta is pronounced.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family with surname SALMON in London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Do you know a family called SALMON?
If so, could they be related to Simon/Sidney and Mary SALMON?
Sid/Simon SALMON married Mary DOFF in 1932 in London's East End.
If it helps, he was a jewellery salesman.
Thank you, in advance.
Daniel Gleek (London)
DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply


Also searching for families:
GLEEK (GLIK etc) >from Beisagola, Kaunus, Lithuania.
SHNAYDER or SCHNEIDER >from Kupiskis, Ukmerge, Kaunas, Lithuania.
COKISCAS and FEREMINSKY >from Warsaw, Poland.
KUPCHIK and ISOWITZSKY >from Novo Odessa, Ukraine.
LIDRAL or LEDDA >from Warsaw, Poland.

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pronunciation of Jetta? #general

Herb <herbiem@...>
 

The pronounced is Yetta. This is a common name for Jewish women. In
Hungary and other countries the J is pronounced as a Y. Many Yettas are
called Ethel in the U.S., but any name could be selected.including Ida.

--

Herb Meyers
Boulder, CO
herbiem@mindspring.com

My g-g-g'father's sister was named Jetta according to her birth
certificate, but she is enumerated in the 1880 census as Ida. I was
wondering if possibly the census taker misunderstood Jetta as "Ida" or
if Ida was a "nickname" of sorts. I have no idea how Jetta is pronounced.


Re: name origin: BELINFANTE #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

<< In my database i found another spelling of the family BELINFANTE.
In Ancona (Central Italy) lived and was persecuted by racial laws ago
Andreina Coen BENINFANTE. The familyname Beninfante sounds in Italian
well-child or good-child. There is the remote possibility of a Hebrew
origin son (ben)-of Infante.

If the "Coen" part of the name could be a form of COHEN or Kohen, the
Jewish origin would be virtually certain. Infante was not a Jewish name to
the best of my knowledge, and no one would name a child Ben Infante where
infante meant simply child.. MBernet<<<

Coming in late on this, and with a stretch of an idea, but here goes: In
the Spanish royal family (and possibly aristocratic families),
Infante/Infanta was used as a title for the younger sibling, who was not
in direct line for inhertiance. So, for example, of the five surviving
children of the Catholic Kings, the only son (and second child), Juan, was
Prince, but all his sisters were infantas, even after reaching adulthood
(until, I *believe* they married). You get a kind of equivalent of this
sort of thing in England, too: think Childe Harold.

Could it be possible for Beninfante to be some sort of echo of birth order
in a family?

Two cents.

Maria Torres
elena@pipeline.com
MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, ZELLAT (Latvia, PA, GA, NY)
NOTIS (Kovno, NY)
KUNST (Poland, PA), PADEREWSKI (Poland, Savannah)
PHILLIPS (PSCHEDESKI, PRZDECKI, DADACZ), LEVY, POMERANZ, ZEPLINSKY,
FRANKEL (Poland, NY, KY)


Re: Pronunciation of Jetta? #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Lisa Thompson" wrote in message


My g-g-g'father's sister was named Jetta according to her birth
certificate, but she is enumerated in the 1880 census as Ida. I was
wondering if possibly the census taker misunderstood Jetta as "Ida" or if
Ida was a "nickname" of sorts. I have no idea how Jetta is pronounced.

Thanks,
Lisa Thompson
Columbia MO
Lisa,

Jetta is pronounced as [yeh tah] and Ida is pronounced as [ee dah]

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Re: Ancestors who came to Canada and then to the US #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Depending on where your grandfather crossed into the US, you may want to
check the "Detroit Border Manifest Cards". They document people who
entered the US at Detroit, Michigan. The records are on microfilm also,
and available through the Mormon libraries as well as in some US National
Archives branches. They're organized alphabetically.
If you decide to review them, be sure to check the full width of the
microfilm. The back side of each card is directly next to (across from)
its front side. You may find additional information there.

You also want to be sure you've tried all "spelling variations" of LOME in
the St. Albans lists and considered that the original name may have been
longer, which would generate a different soundex code.

Hilary Henkin
Researching:
Mogilev - BERLIN; BELIISKI; HENKIN - GENKIN; MESCENOKOV; POZ - POZE
Ekaterinoslav - KATZ; LAPIDUS; LAVROTIN - LAVRUTIN; PESACHINSKY;
SHIMERNITSKY;
STEINHART
Roumania: DONNENFIELD; RINCOVER - HARINCOVER; DOLLINGER
Harbin, China: SREBERK - SCHRIEBER; LITEBSK; SCHON --

Nina Bunin wrote:

Is anyone else having trouble finding ancestors who came to Canada (I
assume Montreal) and then to the U.S? My grandfather, Harry Lome, is not
on the National Archives St. Albans list. Is there any other obvious
source that I am missing?

Nina Bunin
Arlington, VA
LOME, BUNIN, SMOLGOVSKY, BIEBER, FELDBLIT


Re: Pronunciation of Jetta? #general

Burt Goodman
 

Lisa;

My best guess would be "Yetta" - a pretty common name, which could easily
have been Americanized to "Ida"...


My g-g-g'father's sister was named Jetta according to her birth
certificate, but she is enumerated in the 1880 census as Ida. I was
wondering if possibly the census taker misunderstood Jetta as "Ida" or if
Ida was a "nickname" of sorts. I have no idea how Jetta is pronounced.>>


Re: Pronunciation of Jetta? #general

MBernet@...
 

<< My g-g-g'father's sister was named Jetta according to her birth
certificate, but she is enumerated in the 1880 census as Ida. I was
wondering if possibly the census taker misunderstood Jetta as "Ida" or if
Ida was a "nickname" of sorts. I have no idea how Jetta is pronounced. >>

Depends where. In most of Europe the J is pronounced like the Y in
English, so it would be Yetta. Yetta could, of course, chose to be called
any name she wished. Jetta was European, Ida much more "American."

Michael Bernet,
New York


In Paris #general

Arsene Lupin <serge_gainsbourg@...>
 

My maternal grandfather was born in Paris in 1886. He was the sons of
Polish Jews >from the Sulwak gobernia. My questions are these:

Did the Jews who entered Paris at that time have to document their entry?
If so, how did that work? To whom would I write for a copy of the
documentation? His birth certificate indicates residence in the 4th? Would
I be writing to the Mairie? If so, for what would I be asking?

Thanks.

Ken Donow