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Re: Female name "Polya"--and other name abbreviations #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/7/2003 3:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mmbegun@nyc.rr.com writes:

<< Alexander Sharon writes: << Polya (Pola) is an nickname of the feminine
Ukrainian name Polina (adopted most probably >from Paulina). >>
>>
==In the light of other recent speculation, is it possible that Polya is
really an abbreviated form of Polyanna?


Michael Bernet,
New York


Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks update #general

Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
 

Hello,

This is an update on the status of the Bielsk ShtetLinks page located at

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bielsk_Podlaski/

The site now contains a listing of all legible headstones in the old
Jewish cemetery of Bielsk. There are also a number of photos of
surviving headstones. It is expected that in the next few weeks there
will be a photo of every surviving headstone.

We have added the 1930 business directory pages covering Bielsk, and a
brief introduction to the history of Bielsk. The site contains other
source material listing natives of Bielsk including materials >from the
Bielsker Bruderlicher Untershtitzungs Verein. A number of photos of the
town have also been added. Special thanks to Mark Gordon, Mindy Crystel
Gross, and Brad Gordon for contributing materials to the site.

The site contains a section for photos of families >from Bielsk, so if
you have photos of your ancestors who came >from Bielsk please email me.

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg


Ida as a Jewish Name #general

walter spector <educonser@...>
 

To all,

My grandmother was an Ida, one of three in an extended family. On the EIDB
she is Itte. Now that seems like a reasonable translation. It will lead to
some discussion.

Walter Spector
educonser@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Female name "Polya"--and other name abbreviations #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 2/7/2003 3:35:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mmbegun@nyc.rr.com writes:

<< Alexander Sharon writes: << Polya (Pola) is an nickname of the feminine
Ukrainian name Polina (adopted most probably >from Paulina). >>
>>
==In the light of other recent speculation, is it possible that Polya is
really an abbreviated form of Polyanna?


Michael Bernet,
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bielsk Podlaski ShtetLinks update #general

Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
 

Hello,

This is an update on the status of the Bielsk ShtetLinks page located at

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Bielsk_Podlaski/

The site now contains a listing of all legible headstones in the old
Jewish cemetery of Bielsk. There are also a number of photos of
surviving headstones. It is expected that in the next few weeks there
will be a photo of every surviving headstone.

We have added the 1930 business directory pages covering Bielsk, and a
brief introduction to the history of Bielsk. The site contains other
source material listing natives of Bielsk including materials >from the
Bielsker Bruderlicher Untershtitzungs Verein. A number of photos of the
town have also been added. Special thanks to Mark Gordon, Mindy Crystel
Gross, and Brad Gordon for contributing materials to the site.

The site contains a section for photos of families >from Bielsk, so if
you have photos of your ancestors who came >from Bielsk please email me.

Regards,

Andrew Blumberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ida as a Jewish Name #general

walter spector <educonser@...>
 

To all,

My grandmother was an Ida, one of three in an extended family. On the EIDB
she is Itte. Now that seems like a reasonable translation. It will lead to
some discussion.

Walter Spector
educonser@hotmail.com


Re: Origin of Ida, a woman's personal name. #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"> When we discuss Jewish names, we should limit
ourselves to names that have a predominantly
Jewish origin, >from the Hebrew Bible, >from the
Hebrew language, >from the Talmud (but even here
there are many non-Jewish nonce names), or direct
translations there>from (e.g. Belinfante and Bonfils
from BenTov and ElemTov, Wolff or Hirsch >from Binyamin
or Naftali, Bondi or Guttentag >from YomTov), or
specifically Jewish Yiddish names.
Why should we?"



Obviously, I agree with Alexander. This is a
genealogy forum after all, not Jewish theology or
onomastics. If my Jewish ancestor was named
Clementine or Christopher, this is the place to talk
about it. We must not restrict ourselves to what
someone thinks is proper Jucaica-we discuss what was.

Belinfante was not a name derived >from some Hebrew
name, but a forced convert's Catholic reference to
Jesus-so it is Jewish genealogy, not a Hebrew-derived
name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


1930 Census - 183 Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn #general

Arlene <aparnes@...>
 

I want to thank everyone* for trying to help me with my 183 Ocean Parkway
in the 1930 Census problem. Between you all, we *may* have a result.

Over the weekend I am going to attempt to look at all the pages in
ED642....line by line. I had eliminated 645 as the address numbers were
all "even" numbered.

Thanks again.
Arlene Parnes, Orlando
aparnes@earthlink.net


NYC Lookups #general

amagilne <amagilne@...>
 

Need NYC lookup for birth (1890) and death (1942). Two different
individuals.
Please reply privately. Thanks

Arthur D. Magilner
amagilne@astro.temple.edu


MODERATOR NOTE: A very helpful way to find out how to get NYC vital
records is to search JewishGen's Discussion Group Archives, and look
through previous postings.
Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop, type "NYC
vital records" and hit the "start search" key.

You may also want to review the JewishGen FAQs at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html
and the JewishGen InfoFile about New York City Birth, Marriage and Death
Records by Warren Blatt at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycv-lds.html
for research suggestions and resources.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origin of Ida, a woman's personal name. #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"> When we discuss Jewish names, we should limit
ourselves to names that have a predominantly
Jewish origin, >from the Hebrew Bible, >from the
Hebrew language, >from the Talmud (but even here
there are many non-Jewish nonce names), or direct
translations there>from (e.g. Belinfante and Bonfils
from BenTov and ElemTov, Wolff or Hirsch >from Binyamin
or Naftali, Bondi or Guttentag >from YomTov), or
specifically Jewish Yiddish names.
Why should we?"



Obviously, I agree with Alexander. This is a
genealogy forum after all, not Jewish theology or
onomastics. If my Jewish ancestor was named
Clementine or Christopher, this is the place to talk
about it. We must not restrict ourselves to what
someone thinks is proper Jucaica-we discuss what was.

Belinfante was not a name derived >from some Hebrew
name, but a forced convert's Catholic reference to
Jesus-so it is Jewish genealogy, not a Hebrew-derived
name.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1930 Census - 183 Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn #general

Arlene <aparnes@...>
 

I want to thank everyone* for trying to help me with my 183 Ocean Parkway
in the 1930 Census problem. Between you all, we *may* have a result.

Over the weekend I am going to attempt to look at all the pages in
ED642....line by line. I had eliminated 645 as the address numbers were
all "even" numbered.

Thanks again.
Arlene Parnes, Orlando
aparnes@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NYC Lookups #general

amagilne <amagilne@...>
 

Need NYC lookup for birth (1890) and death (1942). Two different
individuals.
Please reply privately. Thanks

Arthur D. Magilner
amagilne@astro.temple.edu


MODERATOR NOTE: A very helpful way to find out how to get NYC vital
records is to search JewishGen's Discussion Group Archives, and look
through previous postings.
Go to http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~archpop, type "NYC
vital records" and hit the "start search" key.

You may also want to review the JewishGen FAQs at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html
and the JewishGen InfoFile about New York City Birth, Marriage and Death
Records by Warren Blatt at
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycv-lds.html
for research suggestions and resources.


Re: Rememberings #belarus

Brian A. Wolfe <bwolfe@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where the following document might be available?
Holly Wolfe, Denver
ABRAMOVICH-Bobruisk, Belarus
FISHMAN-Boruisk, Belarus

"Rememberings: The World of a Russian-Jewish Woman in the Nineteenth Century"
by Pauline Wengeroff (Vengerov, nee Epshtein/Epstein). Born in Bobruisk 1833
- died in Minsk 1916. Lived in Brest, Vilna, St.Peterburg, etc.

Unfortunately I am limited in time to write more on the subject.
Sincerely,
Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL

------------------------------


Brest-Litovsk Passport Database #belarus

David Fox <davefox73@...>
 

If you are interested in reading an article about the Brest-Litovsk Passport
database, take a look at
http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Internet+archive+lists+Naz
i+victims&intcategoryid=5.

Dave

David Fox
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Rememberings #belarus

Brian A. Wolfe <bwolfe@...>
 

Can anyone tell me where the following document might be available?
Holly Wolfe, Denver
ABRAMOVICH-Bobruisk, Belarus
FISHMAN-Boruisk, Belarus

"Rememberings: The World of a Russian-Jewish Woman in the Nineteenth Century"
by Pauline Wengeroff (Vengerov, nee Epshtein/Epstein). Born in Bobruisk 1833
- died in Minsk 1916. Lived in Brest, Vilna, St.Peterburg, etc.

Unfortunately I am limited in time to write more on the subject.
Sincerely,
Vitaly Charny
Birmingham, AL

------------------------------


Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest-Litovsk Passport Database #belarus

David Fox <davefox73@...>
 

If you are interested in reading an article about the Brest-Litovsk Passport
database, take a look at
http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Internet+archive+lists+Naz
i+victims&intcategoryid=5.

Dave

David Fox
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD


Re: New York City Birth Index Marked Special #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

As I have done lots of searches for records in NYC, I can tell you
that birth certificates after l909 are located at the Dept. of Health
in New York City and that you cannot obtain them unless you are
the person on the certificates or you have a death certificate for that
person as it is still personal information. 1909 and before records
are public information.

Hope this helps.
Diane Glazer Jacobs
New York


There are several suffixes that are used with certificate numbers.
They may vary depending on the year of the certificate, and could be used
for a certificate filed or revised several years after the event and
therefore on a microfilm reel >from a later year. To eliminate
uncertainty, you should write or call the Muncipal Archives at 31
Chambers Street, New York, N.Y., 10007; 212-788-8580. In most cases,
they should also be able to locate the certificate for you and send it
for their customary reasonable fee.


"I located the birth record index card for Anna Friedman, my maternal
grandmother on FHL film 1323588. The date of birth was February, 1889.
The index card is typwritten, marked Special, and has an 11 digit
certificate number. The surrounding birth record index cards are
hadwritten and have certificate numbers with 4 or 5 digits. There is a
date stamped on the card that looks like May 17, 1949 (although the stamp
is blurred). I did not find the birth certificate when I searched using
the last five digits of the number stamped on the card. I could not find
anything in the FAQs which referred to a Special designation.

Where would I look in the FHL films for the birth certificate? Or would I
have to order directly >from the Municipal Archives? Is there
significance to the Special designation other than perhaps it was
overlooked and inserted at the time of filming."

Ira Leviton, New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New York City Birth Index Marked Special #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

As I have done lots of searches for records in NYC, I can tell you
that birth certificates after l909 are located at the Dept. of Health
in New York City and that you cannot obtain them unless you are
the person on the certificates or you have a death certificate for that
person as it is still personal information. 1909 and before records
are public information.

Hope this helps.
Diane Glazer Jacobs
New York


There are several suffixes that are used with certificate numbers.
They may vary depending on the year of the certificate, and could be used
for a certificate filed or revised several years after the event and
therefore on a microfilm reel >from a later year. To eliminate
uncertainty, you should write or call the Muncipal Archives at 31
Chambers Street, New York, N.Y., 10007; 212-788-8580. In most cases,
they should also be able to locate the certificate for you and send it
for their customary reasonable fee.


"I located the birth record index card for Anna Friedman, my maternal
grandmother on FHL film 1323588. The date of birth was February, 1889.
The index card is typwritten, marked Special, and has an 11 digit
certificate number. The surrounding birth record index cards are
hadwritten and have certificate numbers with 4 or 5 digits. There is a
date stamped on the card that looks like May 17, 1949 (although the stamp
is blurred). I did not find the birth certificate when I searched using
the last five digits of the number stamped on the card. I could not find
anything in the FAQs which referred to a Special designation.

Where would I look in the FHL films for the birth certificate? Or would I
have to order directly >from the Municipal Archives? Is there
significance to the Special designation other than perhaps it was
overlooked and inserted at the time of filming."

Ira Leviton, New York, N.Y.


Re: Meaningful Subject Lines #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Michael Bernet wrote:

If you don't really care who reads your posting put nothing in your
subject line; those who want to read it anyway and don't care about the
topic will open it and may be in for a great surprise that would be
denied to them if they knew the [subject].
I feel it highly important to put a meaningful subject line for messages.
With teaching, family, and SIG obligations, I have little time for reading
e-mail, although I'm more flexible in the summer when school is out.

1. The messages posted to the JewishGen Discussion Group and SIG Mailing
Lists are archived and searchable. A meaningful message line facilitates
the process and saves time.

2. I do not have time to skim through every message that I get on the seven
digests to which I subscribe on JG, much as I'd like to. I only look at the
messages with a subject line of interest. Of course, I'm missing the
surprises within, but . . . It's better than nothing. (I can't even
imagine dealing with individual messages >from the Discussion Group or SIG
Mailing Lists.)

3. If I see a "no subject" individual message >from someone I don't
recognize or see one on the digest, I delete it or pass it by without
looking at it. I used to (and sometimes still do when I have time) look at
individual messages with names of message writers who appeared to be
Jewish, but more and more frequently I've gotten Spam >from Jewish names as
well.

This is my way of staying sane with all the email I get on a daily basis.
It will certainly not appeal to all. However, I think there may be others
who feel this way and hopefully I'm also speaking for them.

Keep up the good work -- and put a meaningful subject line so we can all
profit >from your comments!

Sincerely,

Shelley K. Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaningful Subject Lines #general

Shelley K. Pollero
 

Michael Bernet wrote:

If you don't really care who reads your posting put nothing in your
subject line; those who want to read it anyway and don't care about the
topic will open it and may be in for a great surprise that would be
denied to them if they knew the [subject].
I feel it highly important to put a meaningful subject line for messages.
With teaching, family, and SIG obligations, I have little time for reading
e-mail, although I'm more flexible in the summer when school is out.

1. The messages posted to the JewishGen Discussion Group and SIG Mailing
Lists are archived and searchable. A meaningful message line facilitates
the process and saves time.

2. I do not have time to skim through every message that I get on the seven
digests to which I subscribe on JG, much as I'd like to. I only look at the
messages with a subject line of interest. Of course, I'm missing the
surprises within, but . . . It's better than nothing. (I can't even
imagine dealing with individual messages >from the Discussion Group or SIG
Mailing Lists.)

3. If I see a "no subject" individual message >from someone I don't
recognize or see one on the digest, I delete it or pass it by without
looking at it. I used to (and sometimes still do when I have time) look at
individual messages with names of message writers who appeared to be
Jewish, but more and more frequently I've gotten Spam >from Jewish names as
well.

This is my way of staying sane with all the email I get on a daily basis.
It will certainly not appeal to all. However, I think there may be others
who feel this way and hopefully I'm also speaking for them.

Keep up the good work -- and put a meaningful subject line so we can all
profit >from your comments!

Sincerely,

Shelley K. Pollero, Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
rkpollero@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/galicia