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Brest Litovsk articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear SIG member,

In the Digest for Monday, February 17, there was a request for information
about Brest Litovsk.

I would suggest the following three articles that appeared in the On-line
Newsletter several years ago.

Brisk D'Lita: An Historical Review... by Avram Chani

A Town With Four Names: Recollections of life in Poland prior to WWII by Dr.
Samuel H. Chani

Brest Litovsk, an article >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Of course there are many more articles about this town, but I think this is
a good way to start.

Hope this helps.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


Belarus SIG #Belarus Brest Litovsk articles #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear SIG member,

In the Digest for Monday, February 17, there was a request for information
about Brest Litovsk.

I would suggest the following three articles that appeared in the On-line
Newsletter several years ago.

Brisk D'Lita: An Historical Review... by Avram Chani

A Town With Four Names: Recollections of life in Poland prior to WWII by Dr.
Samuel H. Chani

Brest Litovsk, an article >from the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Of course there are many more articles about this town, but I think this is
a good way to start.

Hope this helps.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net


Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

On 2003.02.18, Avraham Heschel <bict@safeaccess.com> writes:

Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.
I understand, also, that some rabbis were "appointed" by the civil
authorities and were named in Hebrew "Rav mita`am" --"rabbi in
behalf of."

Can someone tell us more about this practice. Also, how did the
community rabbis differ >from the Av Bet Din (AB"D), literally
"Father [superior] of the House of Law [court for Jewish law]" who
had been regarded as the senior rabbi in Jewish communities as far
back as the early middle ages?

Thanks

Michael Bernet,
New York


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Appointment of Community Rabbis #rabbinic

MBernet@...
 

On 2003.02.18, Avraham Heschel <bict@safeaccess.com> writes:

Whenever practical a son or son-in-law was chosen to succeed the
previous rabbi. The larger cities would often invite a rabbi >from a
smaller town. The smaller towns would often ask the leading rabbis
of the time to "recommend" a star disciple.
I understand, also, that some rabbis were "appointed" by the civil
authorities and were named in Hebrew "Rav mita`am" --"rabbi in
behalf of."

Can someone tell us more about this practice. Also, how did the
community rabbis differ >from the Av Bet Din (AB"D), literally
"Father [superior] of the House of Law [court for Jewish law]" who
had been regarded as the senior rabbi in Jewish communities as far
back as the early middle ages?

Thanks

Michael Bernet,
New York


Name "IRAM"? #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what country the name IRAM might have originated?
Great-grandmother seems to have been named "Schewa Iram" - doesn't sound
very Polish to me, or Jewish, for that matter. Leslie


Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #general

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

Hi

I do remember this game although not as Pisha Paysha, although that name
does ring a bell. We called it Cat's Cradle and it was a real favourite.
I played it with my own children but I haven't seen anyone playing it since
then. I have no idea where it originated but I will now do my bit to keep
it alive and show the younger members in the family how to play.

Thanks for the memory.

Shirley
London England

BEARMAN/BERMAN (Piask, Lublin-London-New York-Philadelphia);
HARRIS/HARISCH (Sieratz-Hull-London); ROZAINSKY/WAPNASH
(Rozan/Czestochowa-Newcastle-London);
TRINKENREICH/TILLES(Tarnow/Krakow-Newcastle-London)


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Shlomo Wygodny <wygodny@...>
 

Carole,
The game you mentioned is called in Israel "Savta Soreget" (Knitting
Grandmother) and I just showed it to my daughter last week. I think I know
about 7 shapes before you get into a loop of repeating shapes.

- Shlomo

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.
<snip>


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Debbie Raff
 

I thought that Pisha Paysha was a card game, which I played as a child. At
this point, I can't remember how it is played, but I thought it involved
cards and possibly pennies.

Are you referring to "String Figures" similar to the ones on this website,
perhaps? http://personal.riverusers.com/~busybee/main.htm

Debbie Raff
California
________


How does this relate to genealogy? I suspect this game
was known by different names which may identify the
geographic region in which it was played. "Pisha paysha"
was probably played in eastern Galicia, since my
grandmother came >from Drohobycz. If she learned it in her
childhood, then the game was played in the 1890s.
Do any other Genners recall this game? By what name did
you know it? >from what geographic region did those who
played it come?
<snip>


Re: Pisha Paysha #general

INGRID rockberger <ingridr@...>
 

I remember playing that game as a child in England - we called it 'cats'
cradle' - and I don't think it was only the Jewish kids who played it. I
wonder where it originated!

Ingrid Rockberger

Researching:
KONIARSKI - Zloczew, LAZEROVIJCZ-Lutotow, ROCHVERGER-Lowicz/Lodz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name "IRAM"? #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what country the name IRAM might have originated?
Great-grandmother seems to have been named "Schewa Iram" - doesn't sound
very Polish to me, or Jewish, for that matter. Leslie


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #general

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

Hi

I do remember this game although not as Pisha Paysha, although that name
does ring a bell. We called it Cat's Cradle and it was a real favourite.
I played it with my own children but I haven't seen anyone playing it since
then. I have no idea where it originated but I will now do my bit to keep
it alive and show the younger members in the family how to play.

Thanks for the memory.

Shirley
London England

BEARMAN/BERMAN (Piask, Lublin-London-New York-Philadelphia);
HARRIS/HARISCH (Sieratz-Hull-London); ROZAINSKY/WAPNASH
(Rozan/Czestochowa-Newcastle-London);
TRINKENREICH/TILLES(Tarnow/Krakow-Newcastle-London)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #general

Shlomo Wygodny <wygodny@...>
 

Carole,
The game you mentioned is called in Israel "Savta Soreget" (Knitting
Grandmother) and I just showed it to my daughter last week. I think I know
about 7 shapes before you get into a loop of repeating shapes.

- Shlomo

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.
<snip>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #general

Debbie Raff
 

I thought that Pisha Paysha was a card game, which I played as a child. At
this point, I can't remember how it is played, but I thought it involved
cards and possibly pennies.

Are you referring to "String Figures" similar to the ones on this website,
perhaps? http://personal.riverusers.com/~busybee/main.htm

Debbie Raff
California
________


How does this relate to genealogy? I suspect this game
was known by different names which may identify the
geographic region in which it was played. "Pisha paysha"
was probably played in eastern Galicia, since my
grandmother came >from Drohobycz. If she learned it in her
childhood, then the game was played in the 1890s.
Do any other Genners recall this game? By what name did
you know it? >from what geographic region did those who
played it come?
<snip>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Pisha Paysha #general

INGRID rockberger <ingridr@...>
 

I remember playing that game as a child in England - we called it 'cats'
cradle' - and I don't think it was only the Jewish kids who played it. I
wonder where it originated!

Ingrid Rockberger

Researching:
KONIARSKI - Zloczew, LAZEROVIJCZ-Lutotow, ROCHVERGER-Lowicz/Lodz


HASSENBERG #france

Jpfano357@...
 

Dear Friends
Fews months ago, Irena ANDREWS ask about :
1942 - 1944 FRANCE Le Camps des MILLES , Bouches du Rhone ,

This personne was looking for :

HASSENBERG Irena or Reno ( Artiste name )

I found in a little book , of Serge KLARSFELD
Title : Les transferts de juifs de la region de Marseille, vers les Camps
de DRANCY ou de COMPIEGNE en vue de leur deportation
11/08/1942 to 24 /07/1944
( >from Marseille region to DRANCY & COMPIEGNE towards the Nazzi camps

The only HASSENBERG is Brouislawa born 11/07/1887 at Varsovie, Poland
She left the MILLES camps the 13/05/1944
She was deported >from DRANCY the 20/05/1944 convoi Nb 74 to AUSCHWITZ,
Poland. Only 108 women survive >from this "Train " if this can help
Didn't found any LEBOW or LEBEAU

Sincerely yours

John Patrick FANO - SILVER SANDS - W. AUSTRALIA

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French SIG #France HASSENBERG #france

Jpfano357@...
 

Dear Friends
Fews months ago, Irena ANDREWS ask about :
1942 - 1944 FRANCE Le Camps des MILLES , Bouches du Rhone ,

This personne was looking for :

HASSENBERG Irena or Reno ( Artiste name )

I found in a little book , of Serge KLARSFELD
Title : Les transferts de juifs de la region de Marseille, vers les Camps
de DRANCY ou de COMPIEGNE en vue de leur deportation
11/08/1942 to 24 /07/1944
( >from Marseille region to DRANCY & COMPIEGNE towards the Nazzi camps

The only HASSENBERG is Brouislawa born 11/07/1887 at Varsovie, Poland
She left the MILLES camps the 13/05/1944
She was deported >from DRANCY the 20/05/1944 convoi Nb 74 to AUSCHWITZ,
Poland. Only 108 women survive >from this "Train " if this can help
Didn't found any LEBOW or LEBEAU

Sincerely yours

John Patrick FANO - SILVER SANDS - W. AUSTRALIA

MODERATOR: You must not use accents, and only send PLAIN text; I am tired of editing your messages.


Searching SCHAPOSCZNIK or SHLIAPOCHNIK in Argentina #latinamerica

Kenneth Packer <packer18@...>
 

My name is Ken Packer. I am one of the Genealogists working on our
family tree. Over the last 10 years, it has grown >from 125 names to over
1600 names. We have actually found 40 more cousins in the last month!

The family originally came >from a 200 mile radius of towns around Kiev,
Russia. We can trace the family back to two brothers, Chaim and Abraham
Peker who lived in the early 1800's.

We know that we have relatives in Argentina, but have not been able to
find them as yet. Hopefully someone can help.

We looking for Todros Schaposcznik. (It may have also been spelled
Shliapochnik.) Born c.1879, he probably came >from Zhitomir; Russia and
immigrated to Argentina. We know he sailed >from Hamburg, Germany on the
ss Salamanca, arriving at Buenos Aires on October 30, 1909. He was 30
years old, married, and was a cabinet maker. What was confusing,
however, is that his religion was given as Protestant! (Perhaps they
assumed that all non-Catholics were Protestants?) There was no mention
on the ships manifest of his wife, Yocheved (maiden name Packer or
Peker). It is believed they were married c.1902.

It is believed that his wife Yocheved (born c.1882, died c.1928)
apparently raised a large family before dying at age 46. It is believed
that they, or the children, may have changed their last name to Todros,
their fathers first name, as they felt it sounded more Spanish.

Any help in finding our family would be greatly appreciated.

--
Kenneth L. Packer
Washingtonville, NY

packer18@bigplanet.com


Latin America #LatinAmerica Searching SCHAPOSCZNIK or SHLIAPOCHNIK in Argentina #latinamerica

Kenneth Packer <packer18@...>
 

My name is Ken Packer. I am one of the Genealogists working on our
family tree. Over the last 10 years, it has grown >from 125 names to over
1600 names. We have actually found 40 more cousins in the last month!

The family originally came >from a 200 mile radius of towns around Kiev,
Russia. We can trace the family back to two brothers, Chaim and Abraham
Peker who lived in the early 1800's.

We know that we have relatives in Argentina, but have not been able to
find them as yet. Hopefully someone can help.

We looking for Todros Schaposcznik. (It may have also been spelled
Shliapochnik.) Born c.1879, he probably came >from Zhitomir; Russia and
immigrated to Argentina. We know he sailed >from Hamburg, Germany on the
ss Salamanca, arriving at Buenos Aires on October 30, 1909. He was 30
years old, married, and was a cabinet maker. What was confusing,
however, is that his religion was given as Protestant! (Perhaps they
assumed that all non-Catholics were Protestants?) There was no mention
on the ships manifest of his wife, Yocheved (maiden name Packer or
Peker). It is believed they were married c.1902.

It is believed that his wife Yocheved (born c.1882, died c.1928)
apparently raised a large family before dying at age 46. It is believed
that they, or the children, may have changed their last name to Todros,
their fathers first name, as they felt it sounded more Spanish.

Any help in finding our family would be greatly appreciated.

--
Kenneth L. Packer
Washingtonville, NY

packer18@bigplanet.com


Search for family KELLER, originally from London #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

I am looking for Sheila KELLER (Keller is her single name).
Sheila is aged about 70 and lives in either Canada or America.
Her siblings in London were Renee, Manny & Susan KELLER.
Manny served with the British army in Palestine (pre-Israel).
Their father was Alf (Abraham) KELLER - he died in around 1975.
If the above means anything to you, please contact me..

Daniel Gee
Email DanielGee@btopenworld.com or click on reply.

Also seeking:
Descendants of Sam & Leah and Solly & Rose HERMAN in New York
Descendants of Milly KOLTZ and her siblings Eva and Pinkus in Chicago
Descendants of Arthur BENJAMIN and his sister Ruth in New York...
(the children of Eva/Esther DOFF/DORF & Abraham (?) BENJAMIN)


Family HERMAN, in New York and South Africa #general

Daniel Gee <DanielGee@...>
 

Is your surame HERMAN, were your ancestors called HERMAN
or do you know a family called HERMAN ...?

I am looking for the family of Sam HERMAN (1879-1935).
He was born and married Leah in London; and they moved to Brooklyn, NY.
Their children were Solly, Johnny, Abraham and Martha.

I am also looking for the family of Solly HERMAN (1886-1948).
He was born and married Rose in London; and they moved to South Africa.
Their daughters were Beatrice, Peggy and Bobbee (KENNEDY).

Both Sam and Solly were brothers and they had an uncle & aunt in New York
called Mordechai and Marya HERMAN (both born 1860-1870).

If you can help - please contact me.
Also do the names John/Jonas, Morris, Sam/Solly or Harry/Harris ring a
bell?

Thank you for your help, in advance.

Daniel Gleek
DanielGee@btopenworld.com

Also searching for:
BENJAMIN (New York)HERMAN (New York)
WAINSTOK (Kolo)GLICK (Chicago)
GLEEK/GLICK (South Africa) KELLER (Warsaw)
GLICKMAN/GLUKMAN (Vilnius/Warsaw)

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