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where is Romanov(o)? #belarus

Stephen Warshall <s_warshall@...>
 

The shtetl called Romanov(o) has been turning up on the SIG site,
clearly located in Romanovskaya volost, Slutsk uyezd.

The Shtetl Seeker, however, can't seem to find it. The only
Romanovos in its database are over 160 miles >from Slutsk,
presumably not in Slutsk uyezd.

I believe that "my" Romanovo is within 20 miles of Slutsk, probably
to the west. Does anybody have a precise location (ideally with a
source for the info)?

By the way, since a name like Romanov would surely be changed
by the Revolution, and one of the many Leninos in Belarus is just
west of Slutsk, one can't help wondering if that might be the place.
But that's just a wild guess; does anybody know?

Thanks.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


Belarus SIG #Belarus where is Romanov(o)? #belarus

Stephen Warshall <s_warshall@...>
 

The shtetl called Romanov(o) has been turning up on the SIG site,
clearly located in Romanovskaya volost, Slutsk uyezd.

The Shtetl Seeker, however, can't seem to find it. The only
Romanovos in its database are over 160 miles >from Slutsk,
presumably not in Slutsk uyezd.

I believe that "my" Romanovo is within 20 miles of Slutsk, probably
to the west. Does anybody have a precise location (ideally with a
source for the info)?

By the way, since a name like Romanov would surely be changed
by the Revolution, and one of the many Leninos in Belarus is just
west of Slutsk, one can't help wondering if that might be the place.
But that's just a wild guess; does anybody know?

Thanks.

Stephen Warshall
Gloucester, MA


Vawkavysk/Wolquisk? #general

nina bunin <nina.marie@...>
 

I have information that indicates some of my Bieber ancestors were >from
Wolquisk, Russia. Since others are >from Skidal', BELARUS, WWWW lists
the nearest town to Skidal' (with a similar spelling ) as Vawkvaysk.
Does anyone know anything abt this town or have a similar connection?

Thanks,
Nina Bunin
Arlington, VA


Archives de la ville de Bruxelles #general

vangheluve daniel <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Bonjour,

I am searching to someone who could kindly look up in the Archives de la
Ville de Bruxelles ... Please contact me privately

Cordialy

Daniel VANGHELUWE
France Rouen


Searching ASTRACHAN or ASTRAKHAN from Borisov, Belarus #general

Jerry Astrachan
 

Iam searching for information about my ggf, Joshua
ASTRACHAN >from Borisov, Belarus. He was married to
Esther KLEBANOU and had nine children: four came to
the US (in about 1905-1912) named Israel (Izzy),
Mordichi (who eventually went to South America),
Nochim, and Rose; one went to Israel, Teivia, and four
remained in Russia, where they died: Ada, Chomi, Chia,
and Kopel.
I do not have any information about Joshua's parents
or siblings or what happened to the four children who
remained in Russia.
Is anyone able to provide me with any information
about Joshua and his family?

Thank you in advance for your help,

Gerald Astrachan

Please reply privately to:jerryaster@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Search the JewishGen Family Finder at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/> -- there are some Astrchans
listed, and a D-M Soundex search will pull up alternate
spellings as well. Enter your own information for other
researchers to search and find.

Also, have a look at the Belarus Special Interest Group (SIG)
at <http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/> and the JewishGen
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
for more help in tracking down information.


pre-1906 info #general

luftman1@...
 

Hi Barry,

I'm an old jgenner and also for many years a volunteer at the New England
region NARA. I hesitate to correct you publicly, but I believe you are
only partially right re pre-1906 Naturalization documents. In some
cases (some states) (e.g., Massachusetts) you can get copies of originals
dating back to 1790!!!!

Three regions in the US sent out teams of photographers to every
courthouse in their regions --- as make work for WPA jobs in the 1930s --
and they photographed (using dexigraph white on black equip since xerox
didn't exist) all the pre-1906 records. Those regions were New
England (all 6 states - info now at NARA Waltham, MA, where I work 3-days
a week copying such records for the public), Cook County Illinois (info in
Chicago NARA), and the 5-boroughs of NYC. The cost of a copy of the
original or dexigraph is the same $10. (which can pay for up to 5 sets of
records). In other regions, all that NARA may have is the index cards for
local/State courts and thay may charge for the search for that card, but
they may have the complete files where NA occurred in a US Circuit or
District Court. For other courts you MAY find original Declarations of
Intent and Petitions at the court where NA occurred. (Though many courts
have disposed of them or sent them to State archive facilities.)

Re the content of these: Oversimplifying a bit, the federal law pre-1906
gave no guidance to states as to the questions asked/answered by a court
on declarations of intent or final applications, basically only that the
person must be free, white male over 21, living in the state 5 years, of
good character, and renounced foreign allegiance - so each state (and
each court in the states) used different forms. Most Mass. courts asked
all the questions you mention, but CT and northern NE courts rarely asked
arrival dates/ ships, etc. Some courts recorded date and city of birth -
typical CT records: birth: Ireland 1857.

Sorry to disagree with your submission, but I don't want any of our fellow
jewishgenners mislead or disappointed.

Al Luftman luftman1@... Natick, Mass.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vawkavysk/Wolquisk? #general

nina bunin <nina.marie@...>
 

I have information that indicates some of my Bieber ancestors were >from
Wolquisk, Russia. Since others are >from Skidal', BELARUS, WWWW lists
the nearest town to Skidal' (with a similar spelling ) as Vawkvaysk.
Does anyone know anything abt this town or have a similar connection?

Thanks,
Nina Bunin
Arlington, VA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Archives de la ville de Bruxelles #general

vangheluve daniel <vangheluwe-smietan@...>
 

Bonjour,

I am searching to someone who could kindly look up in the Archives de la
Ville de Bruxelles ... Please contact me privately

Cordialy

Daniel VANGHELUWE
France Rouen


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching ASTRACHAN or ASTRAKHAN from Borisov, Belarus #general

Jerry Astrachan
 

Iam searching for information about my ggf, Joshua
ASTRACHAN >from Borisov, Belarus. He was married to
Esther KLEBANOU and had nine children: four came to
the US (in about 1905-1912) named Israel (Izzy),
Mordichi (who eventually went to South America),
Nochim, and Rose; one went to Israel, Teivia, and four
remained in Russia, where they died: Ada, Chomi, Chia,
and Kopel.
I do not have any information about Joshua's parents
or siblings or what happened to the four children who
remained in Russia.
Is anyone able to provide me with any information
about Joshua and his family?

Thank you in advance for your help,

Gerald Astrachan

Please reply privately to:jerryaster@...

MODERATOR NOTE: Search the JewishGen Family Finder at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/> -- there are some Astrchans
listed, and a D-M Soundex search will pull up alternate
spellings as well. Enter your own information for other
researchers to search and find.

Also, have a look at the Belarus Special Interest Group (SIG)
at <http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/> and the JewishGen
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html>
for more help in tracking down information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen pre-1906 info #general

luftman1@...
 

Hi Barry,

I'm an old jgenner and also for many years a volunteer at the New England
region NARA. I hesitate to correct you publicly, but I believe you are
only partially right re pre-1906 Naturalization documents. In some
cases (some states) (e.g., Massachusetts) you can get copies of originals
dating back to 1790!!!!

Three regions in the US sent out teams of photographers to every
courthouse in their regions --- as make work for WPA jobs in the 1930s --
and they photographed (using dexigraph white on black equip since xerox
didn't exist) all the pre-1906 records. Those regions were New
England (all 6 states - info now at NARA Waltham, MA, where I work 3-days
a week copying such records for the public), Cook County Illinois (info in
Chicago NARA), and the 5-boroughs of NYC. The cost of a copy of the
original or dexigraph is the same $10. (which can pay for up to 5 sets of
records). In other regions, all that NARA may have is the index cards for
local/State courts and thay may charge for the search for that card, but
they may have the complete files where NA occurred in a US Circuit or
District Court. For other courts you MAY find original Declarations of
Intent and Petitions at the court where NA occurred. (Though many courts
have disposed of them or sent them to State archive facilities.)

Re the content of these: Oversimplifying a bit, the federal law pre-1906
gave no guidance to states as to the questions asked/answered by a court
on declarations of intent or final applications, basically only that the
person must be free, white male over 21, living in the state 5 years, of
good character, and renounced foreign allegiance - so each state (and
each court in the states) used different forms. Most Mass. courts asked
all the questions you mention, but CT and northern NE courts rarely asked
arrival dates/ ships, etc. Some courts recorded date and city of birth -
typical CT records: birth: Ireland 1857.

Sorry to disagree with your submission, but I don't want any of our fellow
jewishgenners mislead or disappointed.

Al Luftman luftman1@... Natick, Mass.


Where is Oulakhi, Bessarabia? #general

Vivian308@...
 

Dear Genners,

I found a possible relative, Frida CHATZANSKY, on the EIDB. Her place of
birth is listed as Bessarabia, and the town as Oulakhi. She came in
1923. My other Chatzansky's are >from Kiev, or somewhere near there; all
the records just say Kiev, and that's all my father and my aunt remember.
I searched on ShtetlSeeker and found the most promising choices to be
Ol'khi, 85 miles >from Kiev, Ul'kha, 125 miles >from Kiev, or Olyka, 207
miles >from Kiev. I read that Bessarabia included parts of the Ukraine.

Does anyone know which town would most likely be part of Bessarabia at
that time? Has anyone heard of Oulakhi? I found Genners searching Olyka
in the Discussion Group Archives, but no one searching Oulakhi or Ol'khi.

Thank you very much.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois
Vivian308@...

Searching: CHATZANSKY changed to CHECANSKY or other variations, >from Kiev
PASSIMANIK changed to PASSMAN >from near Vilna, Lithuania
LEVIN >from Ludza (Lutsen), Latvia


Question on JRI-Poland indexing #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Now that I am in possession of the Tyczyn bith records >from 1877-1892, I
would like to know if any additional records are being indexed. I noted on
the site that death records for a very small number of years is mentioned,
and no marriage records at all. If this data is not being indexed, where
would I find it? Thanks, Leslie


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where is Oulakhi, Bessarabia? #general

Vivian308@...
 

Dear Genners,

I found a possible relative, Frida CHATZANSKY, on the EIDB. Her place of
birth is listed as Bessarabia, and the town as Oulakhi. She came in
1923. My other Chatzansky's are >from Kiev, or somewhere near there; all
the records just say Kiev, and that's all my father and my aunt remember.
I searched on ShtetlSeeker and found the most promising choices to be
Ol'khi, 85 miles >from Kiev, Ul'kha, 125 miles >from Kiev, or Olyka, 207
miles >from Kiev. I read that Bessarabia included parts of the Ukraine.

Does anyone know which town would most likely be part of Bessarabia at
that time? Has anyone heard of Oulakhi? I found Genners searching Olyka
in the Discussion Group Archives, but no one searching Oulakhi or Ol'khi.

Thank you very much.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois
Vivian308@...

Searching: CHATZANSKY changed to CHECANSKY or other variations, >from Kiev
PASSIMANIK changed to PASSMAN >from near Vilna, Lithuania
LEVIN >from Ludza (Lutsen), Latvia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Question on JRI-Poland indexing #general

Leslie Weinberg <lbw@...>
 

Now that I am in possession of the Tyczyn bith records >from 1877-1892, I
would like to know if any additional records are being indexed. I noted on
the site that death records for a very small number of years is mentioned,
and no marriage records at all. If this data is not being indexed, where
would I find it? Thanks, Leslie


Map of Budapest main cemetery #hungary

Peter Spiro <avnesho@...>
 

I have posted a copy of the map at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/KozmaCemetMap.jpg

Some more information, including how to get to the cemetery and some
photographs, can be found at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/kisphotos.htm

The office is located at the side of the large white building. They have a
computerized database with all the names of people buried there. (You can
get copies of this map there.)


Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

Michael Gordy
 

The main possibility in the Czech Republic is Boskowitz (now Boskovice) in Moravia.
The Jewish community there was rather large in the early 1800s.

-- Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, MD
Researching: SCHOENBRUN, KESZLER (Zemplen megye); FRIEDMAN (Tisza Ujlak)

At 12:00 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote:
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest. There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. Where is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Julie MALTZ BORMAN
MALTZ,MALCZ,MOSKOVITZ,ENGEL,SCHWARTZ,ROSENBAUM,SIMONOVITZ,GROSZ,KESZTENBAUM,TURK,SPATZ,LILIENTHAL

Moderator VK: Check out Nagy Bochksa, which is now divided between Romania and the Ukraine. Leslie Gyi has more info at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poienile/Bocicoia_Mare.htm
Other possibilities are Bokske in Tolna megye and Bocska in Zala megye.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Map of Budapest main cemetery #hungary

Peter Spiro <avnesho@...>
 

I have posted a copy of the map at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/KozmaCemetMap.jpg

Some more information, including how to get to the cemetery and some
photographs, can be found at

http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/kisphotos.htm

The office is located at the side of the large white building. They have a
computerized database with all the names of people buried there. (You can
get copies of this map there.)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Where is Boscovitz? #hungary

Michael Gordy
 

The main possibility in the Czech Republic is Boskowitz (now Boskovice) in Moravia.
The Jewish community there was rather large in the early 1800s.

-- Michael Gordy
Takoma Park, MD
Researching: SCHOENBRUN, KESZLER (Zemplen megye); FRIEDMAN (Tisza Ujlak)

At 12:00 AM 2/20/03 -0600, you wrote:
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest. There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. Where is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Julie MALTZ BORMAN
MALTZ,MALCZ,MOSKOVITZ,ENGEL,SCHWARTZ,ROSENBAUM,SIMONOVITZ,GROSZ,KESZTENBAUM,TURK,SPATZ,LILIENTHAL

Moderator VK: Check out Nagy Bochksa, which is now divided between Romania and the Ukraine. Leslie Gyi has more info at http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poienile/Bocicoia_Mare.htm
Other possibilities are Bokske in Tolna megye and Bocska in Zala megye.
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Re: h-sig digest: February 19, 2003 #hungary

Polakovic Daniel <daniel.polakovic@...>
 

Bs"d

Boskowitz is German name for Boskovice in Moravia, Czech Republic. There=
was =

a very old Jewish community. =

See on www:
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/TOWNS/Boskovice.htm
Best wishes,

Dan Polakovic, Prague


Subject: Where is Boscovitz?
From: BORMANJL@...
Hello,
I found an interesting entry in Peter Hidas'"Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)P=
est. =

There is a Wolf ENGEL, peddler, born in Boscovitz, in Pest since 1821. W=
here =

is Boscovitz? I see some possibilities in the Czech Republic, but any =

suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.


ROTH - NJ Records #hungary

jps
 

Peter,

Try www.state.nj.us/health

If death is >40 yrs ago just need name, year and county. They will
search multiple years for extra $1 per year (and perhaps multiple counties).

Meanwhile, if you (or anyone else) find an Augusta Roth (nee Blau or
Salzman, later married a Wolf, and a Brown) who came to NY after death of
husband Baruch (Bernat) >from Ungvar, Hungary somewhere around 1880 with 4
daughters:
Rosa (Jenny?) (m Przeworski 1891 but family eventually adopted
surname of Roth)
Rachel (m Weinberg)
Katherine (m Mittleman)
Henrietta (Tanta Yetta) (m Klein)

John Segedy


Subject: Basic Query
From: "Peter & Lynette Deutsch" <mail@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:26:18 -0000
X-Message-Number: 5

I'm searching for information on Joseph ROTH and his wife ( nee KRAUSS).
Relatives who went >from Hungary to New York around 1890. Both died there. As
I don't have the town they came from, or dates of birth I suspect these
would be on the death records. I do have dates when they passed away. Is
there a central office in New Jersey ( where I understand they ended up)
where I can start? Any pointers gratefully received. Thanks. Peter Deutsch
( London)

Moderator VK: You may have a difficult time finding these relatives given
that you have very little info and the names are very common. (I have two
different ROTH families in my own tree including one that lived in New
Jersey.) I would start by checking the Ellis Island records to see if you
can them on the passenger manifest. You should also check the Social
Security Death Index to see if there is a listing for a Joseph ROTH who died
in New Jersey. If these people died in New Jersey you would be able to
obtain death certificates >from the State of NJ or the county in NJ where the
death occurred. They will not be able to help you, however, unless you can
provide additional info.