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Post Card From Warsaw #poland

SBernst579@...
 

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I would appreciate if anyone could help translate the Yiddish written on a
post card which was sent to my grandmother, Mary Bernstein in Chicago, sent
by her brother in Warsaw. I assume that it was written prewar. The reverse of
the post card has an interesting group photo of men in which they appear to
be a social organization.

Unfortunately, a portion of the post card is torn away and mission. The
brother's name would be either Manasha or Moishe. Mary's maiden name was
Karcewer/Karchover, and her family was >from Warka, Poland.

The post card can be found a the View Mate Site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) file # VM1767
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Stewart Bernstein
Thousand Oaks, California

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I would appreciate if anyone could help translate the Yiddish written on a post card which was sent to my grandmother, Mary Bernstein in Chicago, sent by her brother in Warsaw. I assume that it was written prewar. The reverse of the post card has an interesting group photo of men in which they appear to be a social organization.
<BR>
<BR>Unfortunately, a portion of the post card is torn away and mission. The brother's name would be either Manasha or Moishe. Mary's maiden name was Karcewer/Karchover, and her family was >from Warka, Poland.
<BR>
<BR>The post card can be found a the View Mate Site (http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) file # VM1767
<BR>Your help would be greatly appreciated.
<BR>
<BR>Stewart Bernstein
<BR>Thousand Oaks, California</FONT></HTML>

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Poland Online Directory #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online directory for
Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find. In case the Polish text
on that search page confuses you, I have recently revised a little guide to
this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/missing/englander.html


JRI-Poland urgently needs used lap-top (notebook) computers #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

Dear friends:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland needs laptop computers
to help us in our indexing projects and data checking work
in Poland.

If you have upgraded recently and have an old laptop,
please let us hear >from you.

Here are the minimum specs we require:

Computers should have a minimum of 500 meg hard drive, and a
CD Rom drive, and Windows 95 (preferably a Pentium 1).
The necessary Excel software will be added by JRI-Poland.

If you have a used laptop gathering dust, or your company is
upgrading and may be willing to donate a laptop to a worthwhile
project, we will arrange to get it to Poland. In fact, we know
several people who are leaving prior to mid-October so please
don't delay if you can help out. Don't worry if it needs
a little work; JRI-Poland will take care of that.

In accordance with US IRS regulations and JRI-Poland's 501(c)(3)
status, a US tax receipt will be issued for the current market value
of the computer. If you can help, please contact me as soon as
possible.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
SMSDiamond@aol.com


JRI Poland #Poland Post Card From Warsaw #poland

SBernst579@...
 

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I would appreciate if anyone could help translate the Yiddish written on a
post card which was sent to my grandmother, Mary Bernstein in Chicago, sent
by her brother in Warsaw. I assume that it was written prewar. The reverse of
the post card has an interesting group photo of men in which they appear to
be a social organization.

Unfortunately, a portion of the post card is torn away and mission. The
brother's name would be either Manasha or Moishe. Mary's maiden name was
Karcewer/Karchover, and her family was >from Warka, Poland.

The post card can be found a the View Mate Site
(http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) file # VM1767
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Stewart Bernstein
Thousand Oaks, California

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>I would appreciate if anyone could help translate the Yiddish written on a post card which was sent to my grandmother, Mary Bernstein in Chicago, sent by her brother in Warsaw. I assume that it was written prewar. The reverse of the post card has an interesting group photo of men in which they appear to be a social organization.
<BR>
<BR>Unfortunately, a portion of the post card is torn away and mission. The brother's name would be either Manasha or Moishe. Mary's maiden name was Karcewer/Karchover, and her family was >from Warka, Poland.
<BR>
<BR>The post card can be found a the View Mate Site (http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/) file # VM1767
<BR>Your help would be greatly appreciated.
<BR>
<BR>Stewart Bernstein
<BR>Thousand Oaks, California</FONT></HTML>

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JRI Poland #Poland Poland Online Directory #poland

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online directory for
Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find. In case the Polish text
on that search page confuses you, I have recently revised a little guide to
this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Dan
........................................................
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Professor of Music / Wittenberg University / Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK, BRODA,
SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI, LUKS,
MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/missing/englander.html


JRI Poland #Poland JRI-Poland urgently needs used lap-top (notebook) computers #poland

Stanley Diamond
 

Dear friends:

Jewish Records Indexing - Poland needs laptop computers
to help us in our indexing projects and data checking work
in Poland.

If you have upgraded recently and have an old laptop,
please let us hear >from you.

Here are the minimum specs we require:

Computers should have a minimum of 500 meg hard drive, and a
CD Rom drive, and Windows 95 (preferably a Pentium 1).
The necessary Excel software will be added by JRI-Poland.

If you have a used laptop gathering dust, or your company is
upgrading and may be willing to donate a laptop to a worthwhile
project, we will arrange to get it to Poland. In fact, we know
several people who are leaving prior to mid-October so please
don't delay if you can help out. Don't worry if it needs
a little work; JRI-Poland will take care of that.

In accordance with US IRS regulations and JRI-Poland's 501(c)(3)
status, a US tax receipt will be issued for the current market value
of the computer. If you can help, please contact me as soon as
possible.

Stanley Diamond
Project Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
SMSDiamond@aol.com


Dachau / Riederloh #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Lili wrote:

I just (after 60 years) found out my father died in Dachau but
worked in Riederloh. Can anyone enlighten me as to what and
where Riederloh was and anything else available on this camp.
I never heard of it before. Appreciate your help.
My comment:

Dear Lili,

a search in yahoo.de provided the information that today "Riederloh"
is part of the German town Germaringen (zip code D-87656). The
location and a map is available through the address. This site also
provides a history of the whole place, although, as usual, there does
not seem a history between 1933 and 1949. In 1949 Riederloh was
resettled by Sudenten-Germans evicted >from Czechoslovakia.

Germaringen Ortsteil Riederloh
http://de.srd.yahoo.com/goo.de/Riederloh/1/*http://www.germaringen.de/riederloh.html

Karte von Riederloh.
http://www.germaringen.de/riederloh.html

But even before the place seems to have been hardly settled, just a
few farmers. One possibility could be that your father was at some
time working as forced laborer at one of the farms there, unless there
is a record of an Aussenlager of Dachau somewhere that is totally ignored
in the official history,

Possibly the Dachau museum staff could help you to clear up this
information. They also provide copies of the official record to next
of kin. Their email address is

info@kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de

I hope that helps.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


Poland Online Directory #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online
directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Dan
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI,
LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/missing/englander.html


Re: Riederloh camp near Dachau #general

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/02 2:17:51 AM, Lili Susser (susserl@attbi.com)
writes:

<< I just (after 60 years) found out my father died in Dachau but
worked in Riederloh. Can anyone enlighten me as to what and
where Riederloh was and anything else available on this camp.
I never heard of it before. Appreciate your help. >>

Dachau had 123 subcamps. A "google" search turned up several sites
for Riederloh including one which had a map of the town. Most of the
sites were in German, but some had a button for automatic English
translation (which is usually crude). ( One URL was partly described
as mentioning that it was a "punishment" camp" but when I clicked it
on, the site was unavailable.

But at:

http://www.acu.edu/academics/history/12ad/campsx/camps.htm

there is a typewritten letter in English >from an Anton Posset to a Mr.
Saks about a concentration map of Dachau Mr. Saks had. Mr. Posset said
Mr. Saks' map was very inaccurate. Mr. Posset then presents a brief
numbered list of several locations near Dachau where inmates worked,
one of which was Riederloh, which Mr. Posset sad was 60 miles >from
Landsberg, near Kaufbeuren. He writes that reports still exists >from
inmates of the Riederloh camp.

A couple of URLs giving lists of "Forgotten camps" list Riedloh. One
of these is:

http://www.logon.org/_domain/holocaustrevealed.org/Camps/camps2.htm

which puts Riedeloh as one of a group under the heading "Kaufering
Erptfing"

Another site, this one of the Janusz Korczak Communication Center, at:

http://korczak.com/maler/tzur/tzur-3.htm

offers some accounts by former inmates one of whom came to Dachau from
Riederloh in 1944. (This site is in German but automatic translation
in English is possible but it doesn't comprehend that Kaufering is a
place name.)

Riederloh is also listed in a French site at:

http://www.crrl.com.fr/Ressources/Camps/r.htm

Riederloh was a former ammunitions factory owned by Alfred Nobel & Co.
or its "daughter" firms. The factories made dynamite. (See:

http://www.kirchenmusikneugablonz.gmxhome.de/chronik.html

and

http://www.altenforst.de/projekte/unischu/html/1945/450508b.htm )

Ironically, many of the Riedloh websites which "google" turned up
indicate that the town is now the location of a organization
called "Humedica" which is devoted to famine relief in southern Africa.

Possibly more about Riederloh can be found in books, but my 1962
Columbia Lippincott Gazetteer does not list it. But it does have an
entry for Kaufbeuren (see above mention of Mr. Posset's letter to
Mr. Saks) so I suppose that Riederloh was merely a suburb of Kaufbeuren.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Detainee manifest #general

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

I must take issue with Diane Jacobs' assertion that detainee
manifests are not available on-line. I have found them,
including the Astoria, March 29, 1906, Ellis Island.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@aol.com

HENKEN,SMOLINSKY>Vitebsk; POLCHINIKOFF/POLTINIKOW>Gomel, Mogilev;
PECKEL>Ushachi, Vitebsk; LEVIN,LEVITT>Cherven, Minsk; WOLODARSKY>
Riga,Svetlovodsk,Kherson,Astrahkan; INTRELEGATOR>Siauliai, Kaunas;
GUTMAN>Jaunjelgava, Latvia


Cong. Malchusow Bakowl #general

MBernet@...
 

Does anyone know of an orthodox synagogue in the NYC area (in the
late 1920s probably), known as Congregation Malchuso[w] Bako[w]l?

An acquaintance suggested it might have been on Mosholu Parkway,
which is in the Bronx, but I can find no records.

Gmar Chatimah Tovah

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


Re: Question re Passenger Lists #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Are the passenger lists in the National Archives the same as the
manifests at Ellis Island? In other words, if I have passenger
manifests that show date of arrival as well as city of origin,
are the passenger lists at the National Archives going to show
me anything new?
Yes, they are the same. If you have the actual image of the manifest
from the Ellis Island Database you have an image of what the National
Archives has on microfilm. (If all you have is the text list form
the Database, you do not necessarily have all the data that was on
the manifest, and you may have something that is incorrect because
the volunteer who extracted the data got something wrong.)

What you might gain >from the National Archives is a larger image, or
some other image variation that might make something that is obscure
on one easier to read in the other.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY 14526
PZavon@Rochester.RR.Com


Re: The town of Chimsk #general

Ron Mosoff <rameb3@...>
 

Thanks to all of you that responded to my plea. We are investigating.

Ron Mosoff

My grandfather listed the town of Chimsk, Russia on his immigration
documents. I have seen no mention of this town anywhere in the
"Jewishgen" pages. Does anyone have an idea of where this could be?


Re: Question re Passenger Lists #general

Elise Friedman <elise@...>
 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Diane Jacobs wrote:

They are one and the same. Theonly advantage to looking them
up at NARA or the NYPL where I do my research is that you can
get the Detained Passenger Manifests at the end of each ship's
pages which you cannot get online on the EIDB. Your family
member could be lsited there and then you may get another
family member or different address to whom they were going.

Every little bit helps.
Diane Jacobs

Are the passenger lists in the National Archives the same as the
manifests at Ellis Island? In other words, if I have passenger
manifests that show date of arrival as well as city of origin,
are the passenger lists at the National Archives going to show
me anything new?
Actually, you can indeed get the Detained Passengers and Special
Inquiry lists on the EIDB. You just have to keep clicking next (or
previous if the film was put online in reverse order, which many were)
while viewing the manifest image to find the end of the manifest.
Every single frame of the manifest microfilms were put on the EIDB...
even the several completely blank frames at the beginning and end of
the films! Clicking the next and previous links is comparable to
scrolling through the microfilm on a reader at NARA.. just a little
slower.

Also, you can easily find out if your family member was detained or
held for special inquiry before spending time searching for those
lists. On the person's manifest page, an X to the left of their name
means they were detained. An S.I. means they were held for special
inquiry.

See the EIDB FAQ at http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/eidbfaq.html
for more helpful information about the Ellis Island Database.

Karen - make sure you are looking at the image of the actual manifest,
rather than the EIDB's text version that only has 4 or so columns of
info. If you are looking at the text manifest, look above it and
you'll see a button that says View Original Manifest.. click that and
you'll then be shown an image of the manifest page that you would find
on the microfilms at NARA. Note that some manifests extend two pages
(depends on the year..more information was included in later years),
so you'll have to click next or previous to get to the second page, if
your manifest has one.

Hope this helps!

Elise Friedman
Columbia, Maryland

Researching:
PALEVSKY/PALEFSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIPSCHITZ/LIFSHITZ (Brisk, Belarus);
EISNER, TAUB, SASS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol or Lemberg, Ukraine);
MILLER [or variants], TAUB (Dobromil/Byblo);
CHERNOCK/CHERNIACK (Russia/Poland); CHESIN (Mstislavl, Mogilev, Belarus);
FRIEDMAN/LEWIS [originally KIMYATEK or similar] (Katowice?, Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dachau / Riederloh #general

Fritz Neubauer
 

Lili wrote:

I just (after 60 years) found out my father died in Dachau but
worked in Riederloh. Can anyone enlighten me as to what and
where Riederloh was and anything else available on this camp.
I never heard of it before. Appreciate your help.
My comment:

Dear Lili,

a search in yahoo.de provided the information that today "Riederloh"
is part of the German town Germaringen (zip code D-87656). The
location and a map is available through the address. This site also
provides a history of the whole place, although, as usual, there does
not seem a history between 1933 and 1949. In 1949 Riederloh was
resettled by Sudenten-Germans evicted >from Czechoslovakia.

Germaringen Ortsteil Riederloh
http://de.srd.yahoo.com/goo.de/Riederloh/1/*http://www.germaringen.de/riederloh.html

Karte von Riederloh.
http://www.germaringen.de/riederloh.html

But even before the place seems to have been hardly settled, just a
few farmers. One possibility could be that your father was at some
time working as forced laborer at one of the farms there, unless there
is a record of an Aussenlager of Dachau somewhere that is totally ignored
in the official history,

Possibly the Dachau museum staff could help you to clear up this
information. They also provide copies of the official record to next
of kin. Their email address is

info@kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de

I hope that helps.

With kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Poland Online Directory #general

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

from a message I received today, I am reminded that the online
directory for Poland is not well known, nor is it easy to find.
In case the Polish text on that search page confuses you, I have
recently revised a little guide to this search engine:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/poland-online/

Dan
Daniel Kazez <dkazez@wittenberg.edu>
Springfield, Ohio USA
Poland: TALMAN, ENGLANDER, JURKIEWICZ, STRAUSBERG, KIFER, CZAPNIK,
BRODA, SZEWCZYK, LEWKOWICZ, SZPALTYN, OFMAN, ZYLBERBERG, KRZEPICKI,
LUKS, MOSZKOWICZ, STROZ, SZWIMER, GUTMAN, PESACH
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/missing/englander.html


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Riederloh camp near Dachau #general

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/02 2:17:51 AM, Lili Susser (susserl@attbi.com)
writes:

<< I just (after 60 years) found out my father died in Dachau but
worked in Riederloh. Can anyone enlighten me as to what and
where Riederloh was and anything else available on this camp.
I never heard of it before. Appreciate your help. >>

Dachau had 123 subcamps. A "google" search turned up several sites
for Riederloh including one which had a map of the town. Most of the
sites were in German, but some had a button for automatic English
translation (which is usually crude). ( One URL was partly described
as mentioning that it was a "punishment" camp" but when I clicked it
on, the site was unavailable.

But at:

http://www.acu.edu/academics/history/12ad/campsx/camps.htm

there is a typewritten letter in English >from an Anton Posset to a Mr.
Saks about a concentration map of Dachau Mr. Saks had. Mr. Posset said
Mr. Saks' map was very inaccurate. Mr. Posset then presents a brief
numbered list of several locations near Dachau where inmates worked,
one of which was Riederloh, which Mr. Posset sad was 60 miles >from
Landsberg, near Kaufbeuren. He writes that reports still exists >from
inmates of the Riederloh camp.

A couple of URLs giving lists of "Forgotten camps" list Riedloh. One
of these is:

http://www.logon.org/_domain/holocaustrevealed.org/Camps/camps2.htm

which puts Riedeloh as one of a group under the heading "Kaufering
Erptfing"

Another site, this one of the Janusz Korczak Communication Center, at:

http://korczak.com/maler/tzur/tzur-3.htm

offers some accounts by former inmates one of whom came to Dachau from
Riederloh in 1944. (This site is in German but automatic translation
in English is possible but it doesn't comprehend that Kaufering is a
place name.)

Riederloh is also listed in a French site at:

http://www.crrl.com.fr/Ressources/Camps/r.htm

Riederloh was a former ammunitions factory owned by Alfred Nobel & Co.
or its "daughter" firms. The factories made dynamite. (See:

http://www.kirchenmusikneugablonz.gmxhome.de/chronik.html

and

http://www.altenforst.de/projekte/unischu/html/1945/450508b.htm )

Ironically, many of the Riedloh websites which "google" turned up
indicate that the town is now the location of a organization
called "Humedica" which is devoted to famine relief in southern Africa.

Possibly more about Riederloh can be found in books, but my 1962
Columbia Lippincott Gazetteer does not list it. But it does have an
entry for Kaufbeuren (see above mention of Mr. Posset's letter to
Mr. Saks) so I suppose that Riederloh was merely a suburb of Kaufbeuren.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN,
Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Korostyshev;
BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Detainee manifest #general

HENKEN9@...
 

Genners,

I must take issue with Diane Jacobs' assertion that detainee
manifests are not available on-line. I have found them,
including the Astoria, March 29, 1906, Ellis Island.

Regards,

Ty Henken
Centennial, Colo.
Henken9@aol.com

HENKEN,SMOLINSKY>Vitebsk; POLCHINIKOFF/POLTINIKOW>Gomel, Mogilev;
PECKEL>Ushachi, Vitebsk; LEVIN,LEVITT>Cherven, Minsk; WOLODARSKY>
Riga,Svetlovodsk,Kherson,Astrahkan; INTRELEGATOR>Siauliai, Kaunas;
GUTMAN>Jaunjelgava, Latvia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cong. Malchusow Bakowl #general

MBernet@...
 

Does anyone know of an orthodox synagogue in the NYC area (in the
late 1920s probably), known as Congregation Malchuso[w] Bako[w]l?

An acquaintance suggested it might have been on Mosholu Parkway,
which is in the Bronx, but I can find no records.

Gmar Chatimah Tovah

Michael Bernet, New York <mBernet@aol.com>

WOLFF (Pfungstadt, Frankfurt/M, Koenigsberg, Amsterdam, N.Carolina);
BERNET, BERNERT, JONDORF(Frensdorf, Bamberg, Nurnberg); FEUCHTWANGER
(Schwabach, Hagenbach & Fuerth); KONIGSHOFER (anywhere); BERG, WOLF(F),
(Demmelsdorf & Zeckendorf); Shim`on GUTENSTEIN (Bad Homburg ca 1760);
FRENSDORF/ER (anywhere); MAINZER (Lorsch); anyone in Ermreuth or Floss;
GOLDSCHMIDT (B. Homburg, Hessdorf). ALTMANN (Silesia); TIMMENDORFER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Question re Passenger Lists #general

Peter Zavon <PZavon@...>
 

Are the passenger lists in the National Archives the same as the
manifests at Ellis Island? In other words, if I have passenger
manifests that show date of arrival as well as city of origin,
are the passenger lists at the National Archives going to show
me anything new?
Yes, they are the same. If you have the actual image of the manifest
from the Ellis Island Database you have an image of what the National
Archives has on microfilm. (If all you have is the text list form
the Database, you do not necessarily have all the data that was on
the manifest, and you may have something that is incorrect because
the volunteer who extracted the data got something wrong.)

What you might gain >from the National Archives is a larger image, or
some other image variation that might make something that is obscure
on one easier to read in the other.

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY 14526
PZavon@Rochester.RR.Com